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00:167-Matter-15, we're code 6 at the 911 call location.
00:20Any further contact from the distressed individual?
00:22Negative. Do you want me to start additional units?
00:24Uh, no. Give us a minute to scope it out first.
00:27You ready?
00:28Do I have a choice?
00:29That's a spirit.
00:39LAPD, we've received a distress call from this location. We are making entry.
00:46Oh, do you feel that?
00:53Feel what?
00:54Oh, something evil's in here.
00:56It sure smells like it.
01:06I can't die.
01:08It's inside of me.
01:10It won't let me die.
01:12It won't let me die.
01:14Elise, show yourself.
01:19I can't die. It's inside of me. It won't let me die.
01:23Don't touch that, all right? Just call this in. Call it in.
01:25I need an RA to my location for a stabbing victim.
01:28So I usually sit right next to the camera to keep the eye line tight.
01:30And I'll just sit on the other side.
01:32No, because then you'll split his look.
01:34Oh, hey, hi. Thanks again for sitting down with me.
01:38Us?
01:38What? Oh, right. Us. Why are you filming?
01:42Oh, I just wanted to document the new partnership. Abigail was very excited.
01:45It's not a partnership.
01:47It's totally a partnership. The judge was very clear.
01:49The judge?
01:49My name is Abigail Tierney. I'm currently trapped inside a secret lab at Westview Psychiatric.
01:54All attempts at escape have proven fruitless.
01:57I may have inadvertently used some of Abigail's footage in my last documentary without gaining the proper permissions.
02:02Translation. He stole my intellectual property. I sued, and the judge gave him a choice.
02:07Pay me 200,000 damages or give me equal partnership in his next project.
02:11He never said equal, but you know what? Never mind. Let's focus on the story that we're here to tell.
02:16Mm-hmm. Seat. Perhaps the most shocking case of murder and mayhem we've ever seen.
02:23Would you say that's a fair assessment?
02:25Um. No, no. Stay back. Stay back. Stay back. You don't understand.
02:29Okay, relax here, okay? We're trying to help you. Who stabbed you?
02:32I stabbed myself. It's inside of me. I've tried everything else. I can't kill it. I can't die. See?
02:40No, don't pull that. Don't pull it out.
02:42Oh, God.
02:45Oh, he died instantly. I mean, the wound was fatal. You can't stab yourself in the heart and survive.
02:52But the way the knife was lodged, he wasn't bleeding. Once he pulled it out...
02:58It was Blood Fountain City.
03:00Not exactly, but...
03:01As shocking as that was, it was far from the most shocking thing you found.
03:04Oh, we should get him to say that to set up the opening credits?
03:07That's not... We don't put words in people's mouths. It's a documentary.
03:13Yeah, it was, uh... It was straight-up crazy.
03:18There's a body in there?
03:20Cool!
03:21And we have finally found it.
03:25Please don't kill us. We will join your cult.
03:28Oh, God.
03:30You arrived on scene as the sergeant's supervisor?
03:32Yes. I got there before the ambulance. Not that there was any aid they could have rendered.
03:37Is there a reason you didn't want us to interview you with Tim?
03:40What?
03:41No. We're just...
03:43I'm just shaking it out.
03:44Let's... Let's stay focused.
03:46Were you the first to recognize the victim?
03:48Uh, sort of.
03:49Um, I... I thought I knew his face, but it wasn't until we ran his prints that we got a
03:54name.
03:54Rich Rowley was retired LAPD.
03:57He had been with the department for 30 years and was a little bit of a legend.
04:01Mostly because he made a series of training videos from the mid-90s till his retirement in 2015.
04:07Which, by modern standards, are a little cringe.
04:11Hey, everybody. Rich Rowley here with another installment of...
04:17Now, today, we're going to be talking about proper cuffing technique.
04:22Excuse me, officer?
04:23I hurt my shoulder at the gym.
04:26Would you mind cuffing me in front?
04:29Pretty lady like you.
04:32What's the worst that could happen?
04:37You're welcome.
04:41Rich was a trip.
04:43The life of the party, at least early in his career.
04:46Then, as the years went on, he became a little, uh, crazy.
04:52Crazy how?
04:52He was deep into conspiracy theories.
04:55He, uh, had a real thing for cults and cabals.
04:58To be fair, Los Angeles does have a pretty dark history.
05:01But Rich took it to the next level.
05:03And his training videos got more and more intense because of it.
05:06We finally got around to updating the videos this last year,
05:09but that caused quite a controversy with some of the older officers.
05:12They said we were being insensitive.
05:14Why would updating training videos be insensitive?
05:18Even three years on, a lot of his friends were still mourning his death
05:21and saw the videos as a way to keep his memory alive.
05:24I'm sorry.
05:25I thought Rich died six months ago.
05:26Yeah.
05:27He did.
05:27I'm talking about the first time.
05:30Divers are searching for any signs of retired Los Angeles police officer Richard Rowley
05:35after a sailing trip gone wrong.
05:38Coast Guard responded to a distress call this morning from Raleigh's wife,
05:42who says the 55-year-old fell overboard after the sailboat he was captaining
05:46was struck by a rogue wave.
05:49Any time someone disappears from a boating trip,
05:51it automatically sets off alarm bells.
05:53Why is that?
05:54It's just an ideal place to cover up crime,
05:56throw a body overboard, weigh it down.
05:58The likelihood of us recovering it before it becomes fish food is low.
06:02And the circumstances were suspicious.
06:05By all accounts, Rich was a skilled sailor.
06:07It was a calm day, and the only witness to his demise was Darla Phillips,
06:11his on-again, off-again girlfriend who he married five days prior.
06:15So you suspected foul play?
06:19Not necessarily, but we couldn't rule it out.
06:22Why wasn't Rich wearing a light vest?
06:23He never did.
06:24He was a strong swimmer.
06:26He must have hit his head when he fell.
06:29Why didn't you jump in after him?
06:30I'm scared of dark water.
06:32Dark water?
06:33Water you can't see the bottom of.
06:36Just blackness.
06:37With condoms what lurking below?
06:40You stand to inherit Rich's entire police pension.
06:43That's quite a bit of money.
06:44How dare you?
06:46I just watched the love of my life die in front of me.
06:51We don't know that for sure yet.
06:52They haven't found his body.
06:54Unless you know more that you're not telling us.
06:59Go to hell!
07:00This interview is over.
07:02Did it ever occur to you that Rich might still be alive?
07:04As we said, we couldn't rule anything out,
07:06but there was no evidence that he'd faked his death.
07:10Until he turned up dead again.
07:11Needless to say, we had a few more questions for Darla.
07:14Helping someone fake their death isn't a crime.
07:16I checked.
07:17You're right, but profiting off of that death,
07:19collecting Rich's pension and his life insurance,
07:22it's fraud.
07:23Not to mention the resources that were wasted
07:25trying to recover his body.
07:27He could be facing some serious charges.
07:29So, tell us, why did Rich want to fake his death?
07:35After Rich retired, he kind of fell apart.
07:39His drinking got worse, and his paranoia,
07:43he was always a little intense,
07:45but it started to get scary.
07:48He covered all his windows with newspapers.
07:51He started writing down the license plates of passing cars.
07:55What was he so afraid of?
07:56He said there was this group,
07:59like a secret society of dangerous and powerful people.
08:04He'd been onto them for years,
08:06and he said that they found out about him,
08:08that he was in danger because of it.
08:10It was too much for me,
08:12so I broke up with him.
08:14And then a year later,
08:15he showed up on my doorstep
08:17and asked me to help him fake his death
08:21in return for his pension.
08:23I needed the money,
08:25so we got married,
08:27and we did the deed,
08:28and I never saw him again.
08:29So you have no idea
08:30why there was a coffin in his garage?
08:34We'll probably hold this piece of the puzzle
08:35until the end of the first act.
08:37You know, hit the audience with a twist
08:38when it's dramatically expedient.
08:40Yeah, seems to manipulate him.
08:41All good storytelling is, so...
08:42Just tell us about finding the coffin.
08:45Uh, so once I arrived
08:47and we secured the crime scene,
08:49we cleared the rest of the house,
08:50and then we moved on to the garage.
08:56Oh.
08:57Oh.
08:58You don't think there's...
08:59That there's a body in there?
09:00I absolutely do.
09:02Okay, are we gonna open it?
09:04Because I don't want to open it.
09:06What do you think?
09:07I mean, it's clearly been dug up.
09:10Given the state of the coffin,
09:11it's clearly been underground for a few years.
09:13If there is a body in there,
09:15it's likely long dead.
09:17Unless...
09:18Unless what?
09:19Unless he put a fresh victim in an old coffin.
09:25Oh, okay.
09:26Got it.
09:27Yeah.
09:28Oh.
09:29Oh, God.
09:34The body belonged to a 54-year-old truck driver
09:37named Marcus Ford,
09:39who was the victim of an unsolved homicide
09:41back in 2020.
09:42How was he killed?
09:44He was stabbed in the heart.
09:46Just like Rich.
09:48Wait.
09:49Rich murdered Marcus Ford.
09:51Did I just solve the case?
09:52No.
09:52We were able to alibi Rich out.
09:56He was hospitalized with double pneumonia
09:57the day Marcus died.
09:59Medical records say he was so weak
10:00that he could barely get out of bed.
10:02Or that's what he wanted you to think.
10:04Moving on.
10:05Digging up a body is no easy task.
10:07Why would Rich go to all that trouble?
10:08Initially, we thought it was simply the demented act
10:12of a clearly disturbed mind.
10:14And in some ways, it was.
10:16But then we found the tattoo.
10:18At first, it was a little bit difficult
10:20to make out exactly what it was.
10:22A half a decade of decomp does a number on the skin.
10:25But when we looked back at the case file,
10:28there was a photo of it taken during the original autopsy.
10:31That's actually kind of sick.
10:32I wonder if there's a way to track down the artist.
10:34I've been meaning to start the sleeve on my other arm.
10:37Like, uh.
10:37To my collaborator's point, lots of people have tattoos.
10:41What was it about this one that jumped out at you?
10:43Well, something about it was familiar to both of us.
10:46But we couldn't place it.
10:48So we started asking around,
10:50and the answer couldn't come from a more unlikely place.
10:54I watched the Rich Rally training videos
10:57more than any person alive.
10:59So I recognized the symbol immediately.
11:02Sometimes citizens panic
11:04when they can't get in touch with their friends or loved ones.
11:07That's why we always advise the public
11:09to wait 24 hours before reporting someone missing.
11:13Well, most missing person reports
11:15stem from a lapse in communication.
11:16Every once in a while,
11:18you'll encounter a true, workable case.
11:21Officer, help!
11:22My sister is missing!
11:24When's the last time you saw her?
11:25Last night at the bar?
11:26Her boyfriend said she never made it home.
11:29You always want to take a report like this one?
11:32Seriously.
11:33So Rich hid the same symbol in his training videos
11:36that was tattooed on the body of a murder victim.
11:38What did you think that meant?
11:40Uh, I don't know.
11:42I can't believe I'm saying this,
11:43but Smitty was right.
11:45In Lesson 187,
11:46the tattoo symbol was hidden in the background.
11:48Although, the instructions to wait 24 hours
11:51before reporting a missing person
11:52are wildly outdated.
11:54Anyways, it got me thinking.
11:56What if Rich put messages in other videos?
11:59What kind of messages?
12:01I'm not totally sure yet.
12:02I binged every single Rich training video
12:04I could get my hands on.
12:05Yeah, it's been a fun few nights.
12:06And I did find a few other possible leads,
12:09but there's a problem.
12:10The department's archive is incomplete,
12:11and without all of the videos,
12:12I can't be sure that I'm not missing
12:14a vital piece of information.
12:15So what happened to the missing videos?
12:17So when the training topics
12:18and the videos become outdated
12:20because of new laws or protocols,
12:22the department has to make new ones.
12:24And the obsolete videos
12:25are supposed to be digitized
12:27and archived for historical record.
12:30But Rich is...
12:32were just gone.
12:33Gone is then destroyed?
12:34Like a cover-up?
12:35No one's saying that.
12:37Most likely it was a human error.
12:39You know, someone got lazy,
12:40didn't archive them.
12:42I tried reaching out
12:43to the production company
12:43that made the videos
12:45to see if they had any copies left.
12:46Bad news is,
12:47they went out of business
12:49a few years back
12:49and auctioned off all their equipment.
12:52What's the good news?
12:53Well, I managed to track down
12:55the auction logs,
12:57and I actually know the person
12:58who purchased
12:59the studio's old hard drives.
13:01Careful, I'm very ticklish.
13:03Like the Pillsbury Doughboy.
13:05Same.
13:05I hear it's a sign of intelligence.
13:08Is that a fact?
13:09Then I am smart as the dickens.
13:12So, you purchased hard drives
13:13from SpeakNow Studios?
13:15Yeah, Dropout was still in its infancy.
13:17I was building the company
13:18from the ground up.
13:19We had to be smart
13:20about how we were spending our money.
13:22We bought a huge amount
13:23of equipment secondhand.
13:24Hard drives, cameras, wigs.
13:26Wait, wait.
13:28You bought secondhand wigs?
13:29Give them a little shake
13:30before we put them on.
13:31That's awesome.
13:32Do you still have that wig connect?
13:33Because I'd love a referral
13:34my guy is.
13:36Back on track.
13:37The hard drives you bought
13:39contain police training videos.
13:40Did you happen to watch any of them?
13:41Of course.
13:43Rich Rowley, right?
13:44We were obsessed
13:45with those videos.
13:46We probably watched them
13:46like a dozen times.
13:48I'm Rich Rowley,
13:49and this is
13:50Survive the Streets.
13:52That's great.
13:53Vic can do the best impression.
13:54Do you think you'd be able
13:55to make copies for us?
13:57I totally would,
13:58but I can't
13:59because we wiped
14:00all of those hard drives
14:01to use as servers
14:02months ago.
14:03Sorry, I couldn't be
14:04more help.
14:05You'll still feature
14:06this interview, right?
14:09Yeah, probably not.
14:10Wait, you said
14:11you and the dropout crew
14:12watched the video
14:13like dozens of times, right?
14:15Yes, sometimes on an edible.
14:16Mostly sober.
14:17I have an idea.
14:18Okay, so then you'd be like,
14:19don't forget to check
14:20the closet, you'll die.
14:21So, I don't know.
14:22I think it's a little bit
14:23more like, like,
14:23if you forget to check
14:24the closet,
14:25Freddy, Jason,
14:26then Chucky
14:27will rip off your scrum.
14:28Okay, I think there's
14:29less foot stuff.
14:30I feel like he's like,
14:31and then your crazy
14:32met the ex-girlfriend
14:33who's been hiding
14:34in the hallway closet
14:35will chainsaw your face
14:37when you get home
14:37because you forgot
14:38to clear the room.
14:40Clear the room.
14:41Check the room.
14:42I think he was so close
14:42to pulling out a gun.
14:44What are you guys doing?
14:45That's a great question.
14:46They're reenacting
14:46the police training videos
14:47since you guys
14:48wiped them off your hard drive.
14:49Oh, the Rich Rowley ones.
14:50Those are so funny.
14:52I actually stole
14:53one of the hard drives
14:53so I can watch it
14:54when I'm in the tub.
14:55A little self-care,
14:57you know,
14:57trying to relax
14:58a little more.
14:58It's not working.
15:00Can we have it?
15:00If you want to borrow it,
15:01I could, you know.
15:02No, I think this is
15:03actually working great.
15:05Okay.
15:05You can keep this up.
15:06The riffing.
15:07Clearing the room.
15:08Help us.
15:08Okay, I finally finished
15:09watching all of the
15:10Rich training videos
15:11and there is a lot.
15:14Take lesson 277.
15:19My Azaleas.
15:20A cold case
15:21where victim
15:22Azalea Robinson
15:23was found stabbed
15:25near a ski resort.
15:26You're kidding.
15:27No.
15:28And in lesson 290,
15:29Rich is holding a folder
15:30with a post-it note
15:31on the back
15:32with a brown star
15:33drawn on it.
15:33I'm lost.
15:34Right.
15:35So, I looked up
15:36the cold cases
15:36to see if there were
15:37any victims
15:37with names like
15:39Star or Stella
15:40and there was one hit.
15:42Stella Brown
15:43also found stabbed
15:44in the chest.
15:45In all,
15:46Lucy found clues
15:47pointing to seven
15:48different cold cases.
15:50But why was Rich
15:51hiding the names
15:51of murder victims
15:52in police training videos?
15:53Based on what
15:54we could piece together,
15:55he believed he had
15:56stumbled upon a conspiracy,
15:57a series of connected murders
15:59committed by person
16:00or persons unknown.
16:01If that were the case,
16:02why not just report
16:03his suspicion?
16:03He was a cop
16:04for 30 years.
16:06Well, Rich had a bit
16:07of a reputation
16:08within the department
16:09for, shall we say,
16:11magical thinking.
16:12So, unfortunately,
16:14his theory was
16:15dismissed out of hand.
16:16But why did he think
16:17the murders were connected?
16:18Well, for starters,
16:19they were all stabbed
16:20in the chest.
16:21But more importantly,
16:22each victim was found
16:23with a penny
16:23either in or on
16:24their person.
16:25What do you mean in?
16:26One had a penny
16:27in her stomach.
16:28Another had one
16:29shoved up his nose.
16:31Stella Brown lucked out.
16:32Hers was just
16:32clasped in her hand.
16:33And when we re-examined
16:35Marcus Ford's corpse,
16:36the Emmy found
16:37one inserted
16:38into the heel
16:39of his left foot.
16:40Why?
16:41Did we mention
16:42that they were all
16:42minted in 1930?
16:44Okay.
16:44Well, I just got goosebumps.
16:46Rich's autopsy
16:47also revealed
16:47that he had swallowed
16:48close to 50 pennies
16:50before he died.
16:50Gross.
16:51So at this point,
16:52was your theory...
16:53I actually have no idea
16:54what the theory
16:55would have been.
16:55Yeah, well,
16:56I would tell you,
16:57but we were way off
16:57the mark,
16:58which we were about
16:59to discover
17:00when we got access
17:01to his cloud account.
17:03Okay.
17:05We may have finally
17:06found it.
17:08I'm so close
17:09to getting some real answers.
17:13See that?
17:25Oh, my God.
17:30Oh, my God.
17:35No, no.
17:39For a guy
17:40pretending to be dead,
17:42breaking into
17:42a secure military facility
17:43doesn't seem like
17:44the best idea.
17:45No, he wasn't
17:46just breaking into
17:47any military facility.
17:49It was Area 67.
17:51What does that mean?
17:52That's where the government
17:53keeps the aliens.
18:00So Rich broke into
18:01a secret government base
18:02on the hunt
18:03for a massive conspiracy,
18:04then stabbed himself
18:05in the chest?
18:06I mean, at that point,
18:06it's obvious what happened.
18:07Is it?
18:08Come on.
18:09Remember what Rich said
18:10right before he died?
18:11I can't die.
18:13It's inside of me.
18:14It won't let me die.
18:15Yeah, I'm not following.
18:17Rich was exposed
18:18to an alien parasite.
18:20It was inside him.
18:22Were you familiar
18:23with Area 67?
18:25I'd heard of it.
18:26Yeah.
18:27There's this AM radio station
18:28I used to listen to
18:29back in Foxburg.
18:30Kept me awake
18:31when I was working late.
18:32The host was obsessed
18:34with UFOs.
18:35Val's Velvet Bunker?
18:36That's the one.
18:37He was a little bit out there,
18:39but always entertaining.
18:41Area 51 is theater.
18:44Do you believe,
18:45do you really believe,
18:47the most secretive military
18:49installation of the world
18:50would let itself become
18:52a tourist attraction?
18:53No, no, no, no.
18:55Area 51 is the distraction.
18:57Area 67 is the real deal.
19:00You know why California
19:01has all those earthquakes?
19:03It's not San Andreas Fault,
19:05my friends.
19:06It's the sonic resonance
19:07from Area 67's
19:09underground testing chambers.
19:11Did you believe
19:12in his theories?
19:12No.
19:13No.
19:14Uh, like I said,
19:15just entertainment.
19:16Let's hear from a caller.
19:17Hi, name's John.
19:18Long-time listener,
19:19fourth-time caller.
19:20Hey, John from Foxburg.
19:22Welcome back.
19:22What have you got
19:23for us tonight?
19:23I swear to God,
19:24I just saw a UFO.
19:29John is such a common name.
19:31I'm open to the possibility
19:33of extraterrestrial life.
19:34You are?
19:35Yeah.
19:36I mean, it's a big universe.
19:37Anything could be out there.
19:38I don't know.
19:39People who claim
19:39to have seen aliens
19:40tend to be a little off.
19:42You were friends
19:43with the corpse, right?
19:44Well, yeah,
19:44we were more than friends,
19:45but fair enough, okay.
19:47Legally,
19:48is it necrophilia
19:49if she only did
19:50over-the-closed stuff?
19:50That's a great question.
19:51Oh, I definitely believe.
19:53In fact,
19:55I've been abducted
19:56by aliens.
19:57Really?
19:58Multiple times.
19:59Apparently,
20:01I'm a fascinating subject.
20:03I remember the last time
20:04Smitty was abducted.
20:06Turns out he partied
20:07too hard in Vegas
20:08and woke up in Wisconsin.
20:09Missing time.
20:11One of the hallmarks
20:12of alien abductions.
20:14Had been stricken.
20:15Point is,
20:16the government
20:17had little gray men
20:19in their secret labs
20:20for decades.
20:22What are they doing with them?
20:23They're implanting
20:24the aliens
20:24in unsuspecting hosts
20:26and taking over
20:27their bodies.
20:28You just never know
20:29who might be one of them.
20:32Some people
20:33in the station
20:34believed Rich
20:35dabbed himself
20:35to kill an alien parasite.
20:38But I wouldn't say
20:39that was a dominant theory.
20:41It wasn't long
20:41before we figured out
20:42Rich believed
20:43something darker
20:44and it was connected
20:46to the seven murders.
20:47Then why did Rich
20:48break into the army base?
20:50Yes,
20:50I remember the incident.
20:52Rich Rowley
20:52cut through a fence.
20:54He trespassed
20:54on government property.
20:55He was promptly apprehended
20:57and sent on his way.
20:58Do you have any idea
20:59what Rich was looking for?
21:00As it turns out
21:01he was looking for me
21:03but not because
21:05of any alleged aliens.
21:07So why did he come?
21:10This part is
21:12a little bit embarrassing.
21:15Before I found
21:16my calling in the military
21:17I thought that
21:18I wanted to be an actor
21:19and I was in a few
21:21DTV movies.
21:23What's DTV?
21:24You're so young.
21:25Direct to video.
21:26They made all these
21:27super cheap movies
21:29back in the 80s and 90s.
21:30You make them
21:31as cheaply as possible
21:32and then hope
21:33that someone was drawn in
21:34enough by the cover art
21:35to rent them.
21:37A guy can't have a side gig?
21:39Totally.
21:39How did you get into acting?
21:40Some director
21:42scouted me
21:42when I pulled him over.
21:43He said I had a
21:45bitchin' bod.
21:46Well, he wasn't wrong
21:47but I gave it up
21:49because the people
21:50of this city
21:50needed a savior.
21:53Yeah,
21:53you are the model
21:54of public service.
21:56Right?
21:56Anyway,
21:57Rich became interested
21:58in this terrible
22:00B-movie
22:01that I was in.
22:02I played a monk.
22:03It was called
22:04300 Days of Hell.
22:09Terrible B-movie?
22:11That's what he called it?
22:12300 Days of Hell
22:13is the scariest film
22:14of the 1990s.
22:15Really?
22:15The Ring,
22:16Scream,
22:16Blair Witch Project?
22:17Which one of us
22:18executive produced
22:19a horror movie?
22:20Trust me,
22:20T-H-D-O-H
22:22is true nightmare fuel.
22:24It's not that scary.
22:26She made me watch
22:27in the beginning
22:27of our relationship.
22:28When he was still
22:29trying to impress me.
22:31You want to watch
22:32it again tonight?
22:34I would.
22:35Totally.
22:36I do have plans,
22:37though.
22:40Yeah,
22:40I'm not watching
22:41that crap.
22:41Even if it is
22:42for a case.
22:42I see enough
22:44horror on the job.
22:45That being said,
22:46300 Days of Hell
22:48was our first
22:48real window
22:49into the rabbit hole
22:50that Rich had gone down.
22:51A rabbit hole filled
22:52with demons
22:52or rather
22:54a demon.
22:55So Rich believed
22:56a demon had killed
22:57all those people?
22:58No, the killers
22:58were definitely human.
22:59Killers, plural.
23:00Yeah, there was
23:01different trace DNA
23:02on all the bodies,
23:03all from different subjects
23:05and none of them
23:06were in the system.
23:07Meaning?
23:08The murders were committed
23:09by a group of people
23:09with shared beliefs.
23:11A murder cult.
23:12The cult believed
23:13a demon named Malifus
23:15had been possessing people
23:16all across the city,
23:17jumping from host to host
23:18and it was up to them
23:20to stop it.
23:26The legend of Malifus
23:28is centuries old.
23:29The first mention
23:30we see of him
23:31is 1433's
23:33lesser grimoire
23:34of Solomon
23:34by Slovenian inquisitor
23:36Terencius Bruma.
23:38A reference text
23:40of demons
23:41and their attributes.
23:43Gnarly.
23:44Right?
23:44He's also known
23:46as the deceiver,
23:47the infestor,
23:48and demon
23:48of 300 days.
23:50Why?
23:50Once summoned to Earth,
23:52Malifus won't rest
23:52until he finds
23:53a human host.
23:54After possession begins,
23:56he incubates.
23:58300 days.
23:59What happens
24:00after 300 days?
24:01He reaches full strength
24:03and his power
24:04becomes uncontainable.
24:06Uh-oh.
24:09Um,
24:10if Malifus
24:10was summoned to Earth,
24:11how would one
24:12stop him?
24:13Bruma suggests
24:14killing the host
24:15might slow Malifus down,
24:16forcing him to
24:18regenerate
24:18before he can
24:19find a new host.
24:20A process that
24:21also can be slowed
24:22by the use
24:23of copper.
24:25It was the pennies.
24:27The pennies.
24:27It all came back
24:28to the pennies.
24:29Before 1984,
24:31U.S. pennies
24:31were 95% copper.
24:33So the copper
24:33and the pennies
24:34was meant to
24:34bind the demon,
24:36but what about
24:36the 1930 part?
24:37Are you familiar
24:39with numerology?
24:41Some ancient peoples
24:43and Taylor Swift
24:44believed there was
24:46a mystical connection
24:47between letters
24:48and numbers.
24:50Using the Chaldean
24:51method,
24:51the name Malifus
24:52becomes a digit
24:531930.
24:54So you're saying...
24:55We had a theory.
24:56Whoever killed
24:57those people
24:58believed the victims
24:59were possessed
25:00by Malifus.
25:01They had to reach
25:03Malifus' host
25:04before he reached
25:06his true form.
25:06A 1930 penny
25:07was the perfect tool.
25:08Yeah.
25:09Rich's talk of
25:10it's inside me,
25:11it won't let me die,
25:12he thought he was
25:13infested by this demon too
25:14and that's why
25:15he killed himself.
25:17Wait, I thought
25:18Rich didn't believe
25:19in Malifus.
25:19Isn't that why
25:20he was trying
25:20to stop the cult?
25:21Yes, but I mean
25:22years of obsession
25:23and paranoia
25:24can do a number
25:24on a person's psyche.
25:26I mean, it seems
25:26as though in the end
25:27Rich could no longer
25:28distinguish fantasy
25:29from reality.
25:30And you got this theory
25:31from Rich's files?
25:32Well, I mean,
25:32we actually got it
25:33from Opus.
25:34And they say
25:35watching old horror movies
25:37isn't a good use
25:38of time.
25:39I never said that.
25:48Are we safe, brother?
25:50Is Malifus banished?
25:52His sigil is drawn.
25:54The right is spoken.
25:56We have sealed
25:57his last human vessel
25:58with copper.
26:06heaven, forgive us.
26:08Indeed.
26:10For hell will not.
26:14Midnight.
26:15The 300th day.
26:18Our task was done
26:20none too soon.
26:48Yeah, that was me.
26:52Do you guys want a glass?
26:53You got anything stronger?
26:56Fine, I'll just
26:57take a glass.
26:59Okay, I'll have nothing
27:00actually.
27:01No fun for me.
27:03Yeah, that was
27:04my first big movie role.
27:06Well, my only one,
27:08really.
27:10Rich was so excited
27:11when I told him
27:12I booked it.
27:13He helped me run lines.
27:14Did Rich buy into
27:16the Malifus mythology?
27:17No.
27:18Weirdly, given all
27:19the conspiracies
27:20that Rich believed in,
27:21he was a total atheist.
27:23But I wouldn't have
27:24blamed him after
27:25everything that happened
27:26on that shoot.
27:27Like what?
27:30Before production
27:31wrapped,
27:31the DP was paralyzed
27:33driving to set.
27:34A stunt person
27:35had his leg
27:36amputated.
27:36There were divorces,
27:38bankruptcies,
27:38careers ended.
27:40One of the actors
27:40even died
27:42in his hotel room.
27:44People say
27:44the production
27:45was cursed.
27:46What about you?
27:47What do you believe?
27:48I believe the real curse
27:50was the director.
27:52He was a reckless
27:53maniac that didn't
27:54know how to run a set.
27:56Cuts!
27:57Cuts!
27:58Arthur!
27:59Arthur!
28:00Your strangulation,
28:01it has to be
28:03real.
28:04I want to feel
28:05a life draining
28:06from him.
28:06You!
28:07You!
28:07You cannot
28:08move.
28:09From your position,
28:10not even an inch.
28:12Guys, this ritual
28:14is extremely specific.
28:16Okay?
28:17Let's go again.
28:18Okay.
28:19I thought I was
28:20choking you pretty well.
28:20I'm sorry.
28:21Okay?
28:21I'm going to choke
28:22you a little hard.
28:22Ready?
28:23Douglas was real touchy
28:24about the religious stuff.
28:26I guess he had grown up
28:26in some sort of commune.
28:28And this was all based
28:29on stories he was told
28:30growing up.
28:31Okay, but what I heard
28:32is that they accidentally
28:33summoned Malifus for real.
28:35The director found
28:36some ancient tome
28:37and inserted the incantation
28:39and rituals verbatim.
28:41Ooh, I love that.
28:42And that's what got me
28:43thinking about
28:44the penny killings.
28:45We found the first victim
28:46just a little under
28:47300 days after
28:48the summoning ritual
28:49was filmed.
28:50We knew Rich was aware
28:51of the Malifus legends.
28:52It was only natural
28:53to link them.
28:54So Rich thought
28:55that penny victims
28:56were killed by people
28:57trying to stop Malifus.
28:58Was he able to identify
28:59any of these killers?
29:00We know he tried.
29:03Hi.
29:04Hey, how are you?
29:04Jared.
29:05Hello.
29:06Well, it's a pleasure
29:09to meet you, gentlemen.
29:10Pleasure to meet you, too.
29:11Why don't you tell us
29:12about yourselves?
29:12Yeah, we co-starred
29:15on a TV show together
29:17for 15 seasons
29:19called Supernatural.
29:21Yeah, we played Sam
29:22and Dean Winchester,
29:24brothers that, you know,
29:26tracked and fought
29:27Supernatural beings.
29:29Like K-pop demon hunters?
29:30No, no, not like that.
29:32Well, I mean,
29:33you're kind of like that.
29:35Okay.
29:36Can you tell us
29:37about your encounter
29:38with Rich Rowley?
29:38Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:40Rich Rowley.
29:40He came to a fan event
29:43we did last year
29:45at MonsterCon.
29:46Yeah, you know,
29:47most people show up
29:47and they just want
29:48the autograph for a photo.
29:51But Rich was
29:53a little of a different
29:54beast altogether.
29:55Yeah, yeah.
29:56He was super fixated
29:58on this one particular episode
30:00where we fought a demon.
30:01Malifus.
30:02Yeah, that one.
30:04Anyway, he seemed to think
30:06we, like, knew more
30:08about it than we were saying.
30:10More about what?
30:11Demon hunting.
30:12He kept, like, asking
30:14these super pointed questions
30:16like he was, I don't know,
30:18testing us or something.
30:19Did you have an answer?
30:21No.
30:22No, I mean, we didn't.
30:23We didn't come up
30:24with these stories, you know.
30:25We just did what
30:25the writers wrote.
30:26It's called acting.
30:28There's no actual demon hunters
30:29in real life.
30:30Exactly.
30:31Uh, that's not exactly true.
30:33There is at least one.
30:35And it actually connected
30:37to the movie.
30:39We heard the director
30:40brought a priest
30:41named Father Simon McCabe
30:42to bless the set
30:43every day before filming.
30:44Well, it was either that
30:45or the whole crew
30:46was going to walk.
30:47Does that name
30:48mean anything to you?
30:51About 15 years ago,
30:52Lopez and I had just
30:53finished our rookie years.
30:54We responded to a,
30:55call it a house,
30:56of a priest doing
30:58an exorcism
30:58with a 16-year-old girl.
30:59Had been going on
31:00for three days.
31:04Police!
31:07Help her!
31:08Please!
31:15Get away from her!
31:19Father, forgive me.
31:27Did you feel like
31:28you'd seen the devil?
31:29The only thing in that room
31:30that belonged in hell
31:31was Father Simon.
31:32He kept saying
31:33he had to.
31:34The whole way
31:35to the station.
31:35I'm sorry I had to.
31:37I'm sorry I had to.
31:38Because he believed
31:39she was possessed.
31:40She had a brain tumor.
31:42That's what they found
31:43after the autopsy.
31:44She needed a doctor,
31:45not an exorcism.
31:46And he wasn't a man of God.
31:48He was a killer.
31:48And the courts agreed.
31:50So Father Simon
31:51was convicted
31:52of first degree murder.
31:53When we processed him,
31:54we found a penny
31:55in his pocket.
31:56Nothing else,
31:56just a penny.
31:57Didn't mean anything
31:58at the time,
31:59but after Rich connected
32:00those seven murders,
32:00it seemed likely
32:01he was involved.
32:03Involved?
32:03Like he killed them?
32:04No, Simon was already
32:06in prison when
32:06five of the murders
32:07took place.
32:08And his DNA didn't match
32:09any that was found
32:10on the corpses.
32:11But he could have been
32:13part of whatever group
32:14Rich was so afraid of.
32:15Which means he knew
32:16more than he had told us.
32:18So we had to go back.
32:20Officers,
32:21I remember you.
32:23You were the ones
32:23who tried to stop the ritual.
32:25I just wish we would
32:25have gotten here sooner.
32:26Becca Scott might still
32:27be alive.
32:28Oh, she was long gone
32:29before you arrived.
32:31Demon saw to bat.
32:33Malifas?
32:35Do not say its name
32:36in my presence.
32:37Boy, are you afraid
32:37we might accidentally
32:38summon it?
32:39You may scorn me
32:42and my beliefs,
32:43but I have fought this evil.
32:44I know enough
32:45to fear its power.
32:46What's more evil
32:47than murdering a child?
32:49I took no pleasure
32:50in the act.
32:51I'm grateful I had
32:52the courage
32:53to do what was necessary.
32:54Courage?
32:54Tell us about the penny
32:56that was in your pocket.
32:57In the movie
32:58300 Days of Hell,
32:59Malifas is sealed
33:00inside his host
33:01with copper
33:01before he can be killed.
33:04Banished,
33:04not killed.
33:05What's the difference?
33:07The demon is a
33:09parasite.
33:09It needs a host.
33:11Once you kill the body
33:12that inhabits it,
33:14find a new one.
33:16Becca Scott was just
33:16a single battle
33:17in a larger war.
33:19If you're in here,
33:20who's doing the fighting now?
33:23The Knights of Avila.
33:26Los Angeles has
33:27a long history
33:28of spiritualism,
33:30esoteric religions
33:30that go back
33:31over 100 years.
33:32So think
33:32Aleister Crowley,
33:34Jack Parsons,
33:34L. Ron Hubbard.
33:35He freaking loves
33:36this stuff.
33:37I do.
33:38Anyway,
33:39a lot of these groups
33:39started out
33:40as fraternal orders,
33:41similar to the Freemasons,
33:43where people would
33:44gather and share.
33:46Well, yeah,
33:46yes,
33:47and some women,
33:48and they would
33:49share new ideas,
33:51explore philosophies.
33:52They also liked
33:53partying,
33:54doing drugs,
33:55and performing
33:55weird sex rituals.
33:57Sign me up.
34:00For the intellectual
34:01exchanging of ideas,
34:03obviously.
34:03So the Knights of Avila
34:04is one of these groups.
34:06It was.
34:06Like a lot of the
34:07similar organizations
34:08at the time,
34:09it fell apart
34:09when the founder died.
34:10It hasn't been active
34:11in 60 years.
34:12Then what was
34:13Father Simon talking about?
34:15Based on Tim and Lopez's
34:16conversation with
34:17Father Simon,
34:18we began to believe
34:19that the group,
34:20or at least the name,
34:22had been revived
34:23sometime in the late 90s
34:24to the early 2000s
34:26and rebranded
34:28as some kind of
34:28demon hunting cult.
34:30So Rich was actually right.
34:33There was a murderous
34:34cabal after him.
34:35It seemed that way.
34:36And we were getting
34:37close to discovering
34:39who their ringleader was.
34:42I found him.
34:43Found who?
34:44Doug Roberts.
34:45I want to fill a life
34:46training from him.
34:47Oh, you mean the director
34:48of the sad little
34:49demon porn?
34:50Where?
34:50I was going through
34:51some old industry trades
34:52from around the time
34:53THDOH was slated
34:54to come out.
34:55One of the articles
34:56mentioned that Roberts
34:57was a client of
34:58Stuart Wynecliffe
34:58at the Golden Talent Agency.
35:00The guy hasn't made
35:00a movie in 26 years.
35:02I doubt they still read him.
35:03Not actively, no.
35:04But I called their offices
35:05and I bribed or like
35:07I talked one of the assistants
35:08into giving me the address
35:09where his residual checks
35:10are sent.
35:11It's downtown.
35:12Let's go.
35:12Uh, hold on.
35:13You just want to go
35:14doorstep the guy?
35:15If that means go knock
35:16on a door while also
35:17filming, then yes.
35:18Yeah, I'm not in the business
35:19of gotcha journalism.
35:20What about the business
35:22of making that paper?
35:24The guap?
35:26Money, guy.
35:27Come on.
35:27The doc business
35:28is oversaturated these days.
35:29We need footage
35:30that P.O.Ps.
35:31and what pops more
35:32than blindsiding
35:33a potential colt later.
35:35Come on.
35:36What's the worst
35:37that could happen?
35:39This is it.
35:41Okay.
35:42Um, uh, here.
35:43Here's your camera.
35:44Um, I don't operate.
35:46Oh.
35:50Now, you do.
35:53Let's go.
35:56What floor is it on?
35:58Eight, but, uh,
35:59there's an elevator.
35:59Don't worry.
36:06Are you sure it's that way?
36:08Yep.
36:10Nope.
36:11You know,
36:12at the risk of being
36:13called a scaredy cat,
36:14you do understand
36:15that this is inherently
36:17neither a wise
36:18nor safe activity?
36:19You're asking a woman
36:20if she understands
36:21that it's inherently dangerous
36:23to go anywhere
36:24or do anything?
36:25When you put it that way,
36:27I sound like an ass.
36:29Well, that's a new one.
36:31Do you doubt me?
36:32Maybe we should come back?
36:34Hey, hello, Douglas Roberts.
36:37We're here to question you
36:37about murders and demons.
36:40That should get his attention.
36:44Oh, I am just an intern.
36:48So, clearly we're not deceased,
36:51which means...
36:52We saved you from certain deaths?
36:53I'm not sure how certain it was, babe.
36:55Oh, it felt pretty certain to me.
36:57Please don't kill us.
36:58We will join your cult.
36:59Is there a membership fee
37:00or a secret handshake?
37:01I love a secret handshake.
37:02Ignore her.
37:03She's not right in the head.
37:04In fact, she has short-term memory issues,
37:05so if you let her go now,
37:06she won't remember any of this.
37:07Just shut up.
37:08No one's going anywhere.
37:09I mean, technically,
37:10we're all going somewhere.
37:16All right, let him go.
37:17Get your hands up.
37:18Up against the jeep now.
37:20Let's go.
37:26Oh, my God.
37:27Hey, Anna.
37:29Thanks for trying to save me,
37:30even though I'm the one
37:31who put us in danger.
37:33No problem.
37:34I was about to do the same thing,
37:36but you just beat me to it.
37:38I can be noble, too.
37:39No doubt.
37:40Yeah.
37:41I get very claustrophobic.
37:42Can I just point out
37:43how claustrophobic I get, please?
37:44So, when did you and Douglas meet?
37:47The movie.
37:48He was, you know,
37:50so commanding and driven
37:52and everything I wasn't.
37:53When did he start talking
37:54about killing the demon?
37:56It was at least a year after that.
37:59He would call me late at night
38:00and talk about the demon
38:02and how scared he was for the world,
38:04and eventually it started to make sense.
38:07And he told you
38:08that someone was possessed?
38:10Correct.
38:11Her name was Cynthia.
38:14She cried when I tied her up,
38:16and she kept saying
38:17that she was not a demon.
38:19She begged me to believe her,
38:20and at that point,
38:26he was very deep in my head.
38:29And then tonight, you know,
38:30all the lies he was spewing
38:31at the end,
38:33it was like somebody
38:34turned on the light switch.
38:35I could just see him
38:36for who he was.
38:38So pathetic.
38:42We'll need you to write up
38:43a detailed confession.
38:49I would like to make a deal.
38:53We have already located
38:54your co-conspirators.
38:56You don't really
38:56have anything to offer.
38:59You don't want to know
39:00what an alien spaceship looks like?
39:03I am all that stands
39:05between the world
39:07and damnation.
39:09So all of the people
39:10that you had targeted,
39:11they had to die
39:12for the greater good?
39:14Yes.
39:15And my heart breaks
39:16for each of them.
39:18But I will not let innocence
39:20fall to perdition.
39:21Okay.
39:22Have you had your fill of BS?
39:24God, yes.
39:25Okay, me too.
39:26So, uh, first victim.
39:29Cynthia Green.
39:30You did it for two years
39:31before she cheated on you.
39:32Marcus Ford.
39:33He worked as a teamster
39:34on your movie,
39:35then later sued you
39:36for non-payment.
39:38Pamela Jones
39:39wrote a scathing review
39:41of your movie.
39:42Really?
39:43I...
39:43I had no idea.
39:45All seven victims
39:46were people
39:46who wronged you
39:47in some way.
39:48You don't even believe
39:49in the demon.
39:50You just used it
39:51as a tool
39:51to get people
39:52with weak minds
39:53to do your dirty work
39:54for you.
39:57Exactly.
39:58I was the director.
40:00I think you'll find
40:00I never laid a finger
40:03on any of the victims.
40:04And I think you will find
40:06that Manson died in prison.
40:10All right.
40:11Uh, anything else?
40:13No, I think we got everything.
40:15Okay.
40:17That was a crazy one, huh?
40:18Tell me about it.
40:19And look,
40:20thanks so much
40:21for all of your time
40:21and for saving our lives.
40:23Anything from
40:24my favorite documentarian?
40:25Actually,
40:25the only documentarian
40:26I know.
40:27Not true.
40:27I'm a documentarian, too.
40:29Of course.
40:29Yes.
40:30Oh, speaking of,
40:31how did this whole
40:32working together thing go?
40:34Is this the start
40:35of a beautiful friendship?
40:37I don't know.
40:38I mean,
40:38we have very different styles
40:39and instincts
40:41and, well,
40:42basically everything,
40:42but I'd be able
40:44to do another collaboration.
40:47Oh, um,
40:49it's just,
40:50I, uh,
40:50I kind of signed
40:51an exclusive
40:52three-film deal
40:53with Hulu.
40:54What?
40:54Yeah,
40:55I, um,
40:56I sent them
40:56a sizzle reel
40:57of this project.
40:57Just the me parts
40:58and, uh,
40:59they freaked.
41:00Said I'm gonna be
41:00the new face
41:01of true crime.
41:02Their words.
41:03Wow,
41:03I mean,
41:04you'd probably
41:04be able to
41:05bring him along,
41:06though, right?
41:07Oh, totally.
41:09Totally.
41:11I gotta go.
41:12But, uh,
41:13thanks again.
41:14Hello?
41:15No,
41:16I said Toronto
41:16and then camp.
41:19She'll probably
41:20call you.
41:22Yeah.
41:26I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.
41:59Damn it.
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