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00:02:51Evening everybody and welcome to the Hollywood Red Copic Radio Show. I'm Debbie Perkins. I'm your host.

00:02:56And I have the most beautiful actress, author, and veteran, Mindy Doughty.

00:03:03And Mindy, thank you so much for coming on. I hope I pronounced your name right.

00:03:08Close enough. Everybody eats it up. It's Dougherty.

00:03:11Dougherty. Dougherty. Okay. Why can't I say that? What's wrong with me? My tongue is tired.

00:03:16I tell people, like, pizza dough and then just add earthy.

00:03:20Oh, that's wicked cool. That's cute. So, how have you been? It's been a while.

00:03:25I mean, we were talking last week about, like, how long it's been. It's been a long time since you've

00:03:29been on.

00:03:29Yeah, well, it's been at least since COVID. And COVID was, what, 2020? So, it's 26.

00:03:34So, I want to say at least 10 years, maybe. We haven't.

00:03:39Isn't it crazy? The time has gone very fast.

00:03:43Now, has the experience been growing in your life with the entertainment industry?

00:03:49And how has it been for you?

00:03:50So, I've been, I joined a couple different independent films.

00:03:55And as a matter of fact, I'll be, we just are doing the distribution and getting everything else ready for

00:04:04Clown Motel 3.

00:04:05And in July, I'm going to be filming Killer Pizza Man with Will Colazzo.

00:04:10And I just recently, about maybe six months or seven months ago, released my autobiography.

00:04:18And that's called Resilient Warrior.

00:04:21Oh, that's beautiful.

00:04:23Thanks. And then I've got my children's book called A Dragon's Voice.

00:04:27And there's lessons in there for the kids to learn.

00:04:31So, like, don't steal. Don't take what's not yours.

00:04:34Create friends by doing a win-win situation.

00:04:37And then listen to your intuition.

00:04:39And then my autobiography is all about my life.

00:04:42Now, how did you get inspired to write the book?

00:04:45What brought you to that, where you felt like, I've got to do something?

00:04:49So, somebody asked me to read something.

00:04:51And I remembered, like, how they were talking about school.

00:04:55And then they bridged off to talking about their kids.

00:04:58And, you know, the kid was struggling.

00:05:00And it just, like, light bulb went on at one point.

00:05:03And I was like, you know what, what if I created a book for kids with disabilities so that they

00:05:09could read a little easier?

00:05:11And so, what I told my publishers what I wanted, and this book, I haven't seen anybody else do this,

00:05:16is they have the words on one page and then the lesson right there.

00:05:21Instead of trying to figure out, instead of reading the whole book and getting the lessons,

00:05:25and then you've got to figure out what the lessons are.

00:05:26I wanted the lessons to be in bold so that way the kids could understand.

00:05:31And the parents, if the kids can read, then they get an imagination because the picture's on the other side.

00:05:37So, they're looking at the words first to see if their picture matches.

00:05:40And then they turn the page and the picture's right there.

00:05:44And so, I did that because there's too many people with disabilities that are trying to figure out,

00:05:49how do I get this lesson to my kid?

00:05:51And it also bridgeways conversations at any point for your parents to, you know, talk about it.

00:06:00Like, hey, you know, don't steal.

00:06:02But the biggest one of listening to your intuition and that portion I wrote

00:06:07because I am involved with a large group that's trying to decrease sex and human trafficking.

00:06:14So, my book, this children's book is in six or five different police departments.

00:06:19Sorry, six police departments, five different states.

00:06:22And my autobiography with the children's book is in Alabama, Sex Trafficking and Human Alliance.

00:06:29And the reason I am doing it for the police stations is so that when they get picked up for

00:06:33human trafficking

00:06:34or sex trafficking or for abuse, they can give them this book and they can read it while they're in

00:06:40the back of the car

00:06:41or they can read it at their station so that it calms down their nervous system.

00:06:46That's a great idea.

00:06:48Because I think they're victims and they're scared and they don't know how to trust anybody at that point.

00:06:57Right.

00:06:58Like, even a police officer is helping you, but they're still children.

00:07:04They're still in the child's mind.

00:07:05And they don't know, I mean, a lot of kids bottle things up and don't want to talk about things

00:07:12either.

00:07:13And that's why also it's a segue for them to get the book read to them if they don't know

00:07:19how to read.

00:07:20And then they can answer those questions of, you know, intertwined with the lessons that are in there.

00:07:27And not only that many, but it picks ages before reading stages and helps them.

00:07:33So it's basically 12 and under.

00:07:35Yeah.

00:07:36And then you get the word and then the word matches up the picture, which makes their memory remember the

00:07:43word and then the picture.

00:07:45Yeah.

00:07:46It helps with processing disorders.

00:07:47It's selling.

00:07:48Yeah.

00:07:49I don't know about you, but I was not a good speller when I was growing up.

00:07:53I spelled it like I heard it.

00:07:55So I was good at spelling, but I wasn't good at putting the whole idea together.

00:08:00Like if I read one page, it didn't make sense to the next page.

00:08:03But you know how some people can keep like a story together and they've got like the characters and they

00:08:08got, you know, visualization of it all.

00:08:11No, my brain didn't.

00:08:13My brain said don't compute.

00:08:15Right.

00:08:16So that's why I also wanted it from one page to the next to be a different lesson so that

00:08:21it wasn't like combining those pages because that's where I found difficulty.

00:08:26Right.

00:08:26You wanted something so that when they put the page, they get a new idea.

00:08:30Right.

00:08:30Or a new lesson.

00:08:32That's amazing because I think a lot of adults would try to communicate with a child but not get through

00:08:38to them.

00:08:39So the book will do that.

00:08:41And that can happen at their own pace while they're just sitting there looking because we all like to look

00:08:47at things.

00:08:48Sure.

00:08:49I mean, if we didn't, we wouldn't have these cell phones.

00:08:52It wouldn't be.

00:08:53We wouldn't be living in the world of technology that we're in right now.

00:08:56So that is, sorry, my table's rolling.

00:09:02I got a puppy pushing my table.

00:09:04Get.

00:09:05Otty puppy.

00:09:06So anyways, so that's amazing.

00:09:09Now, Mindy, where did you grow up?

00:09:11Well, I grew up on the East Coast and then also kind of in the summers, I went to go

00:09:16visit my dad.

00:09:17So my parents were separated from the time that I was born.

00:09:22So my dad lived in California and we lived on the East Coast and traveled a lot.

00:09:29And so when I would go out to the summer, it was like basically for the school time.

00:09:36So usually about two to four weeks.

00:09:38So a month, basically.

00:09:40So I got to California and, you know, each place I go to the beach, you know, whether I was

00:09:46in Florida, New Jersey or Pennsylvania or in California.

00:09:50You know, there's always like a beach on each side.

00:09:53So for the summers, I would go to California and go to like Huntington Beach or Fountain Valley.

00:09:58It was in Orange County.

00:10:02Now, did you, because you're from the East Coast, what was your feeling?

00:10:06Because a lot of people can actually move from the East Coast to the West Coast and just adapt.

00:10:11Did you feel like it was an easy, would it be an easy transition if you did want to move

00:10:18out that way?

00:10:20No, it wasn't easy for me because people are at a much quicker pace and our attitudes are much abrupt

00:10:29and harsh.

00:10:30And so what I found was that people were like, you know, why are you being mean to me?

00:10:35Why are you so angry?

00:10:36And I was like, I'm not angry.

00:10:39You know, or they'd be like, you're talking too quick.

00:10:41I'm like, all right.

00:10:43So I had to literally slow myself down.

00:10:46And they're like, we don't understand you.

00:10:49I don't know what dialect you're speaking.

00:10:51I was like, this is English.

00:10:52What do you mean?

00:10:55So, I mean, it was just a very big transition and it took me a while to get used to

00:11:01it.

00:11:01And it's still sometimes I have to remind myself like, oh, because if I talk to somebody from the East

00:11:07Coast, then I, you know, am right back to where I was, you know, where I used to be.

00:11:11And then they get off the phone and my friends are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:11:14What are you saying?

00:11:15And I'm like, oh, it's got to transition back again.

00:11:18I think that we do that to a lot of people.

00:11:23So I've met people where they have moved out West and we remind them of home when they hear our

00:11:30voice.

00:11:31Right.

00:11:31So their dialect, all of a sudden, they will talk like they are from where they're at.

00:11:37Then all of a sudden, while they're talking to you, their dialect changes back to home.

00:11:42Yeah.

00:11:43And I think that's awesome because it brings them back to who they are.

00:11:47They really are.

00:11:48I think the brain is like a chameleon.

00:11:50And so it goes like adapts to wherever it's at.

00:11:53And I think that that might have been like a survival mechanism from birth.

00:11:57You know, like we all wanted to survive.

00:11:59So in order to survive, we had to fit into the groups.

00:12:02Right.

00:12:02If you're an outcast back then, especially, you know, back in the day, you'd get killed or you would die

00:12:09because you wouldn't have the survival skills in order to fit in so that you could go to society.

00:12:15So I think our brain is kind of trained to do that.

00:12:18I think that's amazing.

00:12:21Now, you served in one of the branches in the military.

00:12:27Yep.

00:12:27I was a U.S. Army field combat medic when I first went in and then I went to Bosnia,

00:12:33Croatia and Hungary.

00:12:34I was stationed in Germany.

00:12:36Unfortunately, got a parasite and got really, really sick and got pancreatitis.

00:12:40But I did two more years in Colorado Springs.

00:12:43So I did a total of four years.

00:12:46And in between, I did a lot of things, you know, and I represented the base in Washington, D.C.

00:12:51to try to get things changed for the military.

00:12:53And then when I got out, my pancreatitis kept going.

00:12:56So I had my pancreas taken out in a couple of different sections.

00:13:00So I had no pancreas, no gallbladder, no duodenum and no appendix.

00:13:04So, I mean, there's like four organs missing at this point, which makes me kind of an automatic diabetic.

00:13:09And so, you know, fast forward to the VA and all the other stuff, like the care at the veterans'

00:13:16hospitals, they're subpar.

00:13:19You know, I don't even know if we could say it's subpar.

00:13:22Mark, we can say that.

00:13:23It's just so bad.

00:13:25Mark, we can talk about that, can't we?

00:13:27Because you go to the VA hospital too.

00:13:29Oh, yeah.

00:13:30I'm an Air Force vet.

00:13:33Oh, yeah.

00:13:33See, there you go.

00:13:34So, see, I met somebody today that was fixing my shoe, that was giving me orthotics and stuff.

00:13:40And he's a vet as well.

00:13:42And when I walked in, he was talking about the VA.

00:13:45And he told me he got kicked out because he couldn't get along with the doctors.

00:13:50And I was like, well, I definitely understand that because I don't get along with some of them.

00:13:56Yeah, you know what I tell them?

00:13:58I tell the docs this, you work for me.

00:14:02And if you don't like it, I can go down to, you know, admin, and I can change doctors right

00:14:10now.

00:14:12Sometimes you're stuck with only one doctor, especially in a small city like me.

00:14:16Yeah.

00:14:16Oh, really?

00:14:17I'm in a regional area.

00:14:20Oh, okay.

00:14:20No, I'm in a small city of, like, I think we just got to 25,000 in this city and

00:14:27140 in the next city over.

00:14:31So, when they're that small, they're not as attentive as they would be in a bigger city.

00:14:36We don't have much choice is what I'll say.

00:14:39That's, yeah, which bringing awareness to that has to help someone.

00:14:43You're talking 25 to 30 individuals per one doctor for that one hour.

00:14:53That's crazy.

00:14:54Or more.

00:14:55Well, and they don't even have an hour.

00:14:56They're basically submitted to 15 minutes.

00:14:59So, your 15 minutes, you better hurry up.

00:15:01And I think that's probably also why I talk so quick.

00:15:02Like, get it all in, you know, get it all out.

00:15:07Wow.

00:15:08So, that's not appropriate time to help anybody.

00:15:12Correct.

00:15:13And that's why a lot of veterans get angry after their appointments because they don't feel heard.

00:15:18They don't feel seen.

00:15:19So, yesterday, as a matter of fact, I got in touch with the legislator.

00:15:26She actually finally got a hold of me and we created a meeting.

00:15:31And yesterday, her and her aide talked to me.

00:15:33And I said, the biggest thing I want for Oregon right now, because you can only go state by state,

00:15:38right?

00:15:38Eventually, maybe it can go further.

00:15:40But for right now, this is where we're going to start.

00:15:43I said, anybody who's 100% service connected, we genuinely need our taxes for our houses to be brought down

00:15:50a lot more than 3% on the total.

00:15:53Because at this point, we're exponentially growing.

00:15:56Like, this house or any of the other houses are, like, worth two to three times what they were 10

00:16:02years ago.

00:16:03Move down here, Mindy.

00:16:04And the taxes are going up.

00:16:05Move down here with me.

00:16:08No.

00:16:08I love this place.

00:16:09If I'm in Texas, we don't, if you're a vet, you don't pay state tax on property.

00:16:16Yeah, unfortunately, that's where I got tortured at San Antonio, Texas, was for four straight months.

00:16:22And I was bed bound for three years and eight months.

00:16:24And it took me seven years to relearn how to walk.

00:16:26So, if I don't have to go to Texas, besides doing filming, I won't go.

00:16:34She's from New England.

00:16:36No, you're from?

00:16:38I'm originally from Pennsylvania.

00:16:40But, you know, depending on what hospital you go to here, the one that I'm at, it seems to be

00:16:50pretty decent.

00:16:51Okay.

00:16:52I've heard Austin is really different.

00:16:54I've gone through the system in other states.

00:16:57Okay.

00:16:58And, you know, it's not the same.

00:16:59Every place is different.

00:17:01It is.

00:17:02And what people don't understand is every time you see, every time you go, you're almost seeing a new doctor,

00:17:09a new resident.

00:17:09Because after a certain amount of time, everybody changes over.

00:17:14So, you're repeating your story over and over and over.

00:17:18And they don't look at the charts.

00:17:19They don't look at your past history.

00:17:22They say, okay, so tell me about you.

00:17:24Or tell me what's going on.

00:17:26And it's like, oh, my God, please.

00:17:28It's like flipping.

00:17:31So, if you only have a certain amount of time and you're trying to get that, if you have a

00:17:36hard case like mine is, you're just not going to get the time.

00:17:40You know?

00:17:41And so, I'm really happy that we get to see a civilian personnel here.

00:17:45It's called community care, which I fought for in 2014 to get this done.

00:17:49And then also, what I want from the legislator is to propose a bill so that we can vote on

00:17:58it so that people that are 100% service connected get less taxes off of their houses.

00:18:06Because in other states, too, it's really bad.

00:18:09But it goes by cities and it's by counties and stuff like that.

00:18:12And she told me, well, I represent these three.

00:18:15However, if we put this bill and propose it, it will go to all of Oregon.

00:18:19And I was like, all right, let's do that.

00:18:21You know, if we can start in Oregon, then maybe other states will, you know, come in.

00:18:27But it just depends on, unfortunately, and fortunately, it all depends on who's running that state, you know?

00:18:33So, I'm just hoping that the bill, you know, she said, well, do you mind using your story as, you

00:18:39know, to help me?

00:18:40I was like, I'm the one who wanted to create this.

00:18:43So, yeah, of course I'll be, you know?

00:18:45Absolutely.

00:18:46You can use my voice.

00:18:47You can use my name.

00:18:48You can use my story.

00:18:49Whatever you need to do to get this passed because it's more important for me to get things done for

00:18:56myself because I told her, I said, you know, it's not only for me.

00:18:59It's for the people that are getting homeless at this point in time.

00:19:02But in 10 years, I'm going to be them.

00:19:05And if it's not changed now, what is it going to be like in 10 years, you know?

00:19:09So, I don't want to be homeless.

00:19:11There's people that are in that.

00:19:13They go through suicide.

00:19:15They have PSTD.

00:19:16I mean, they go through so many different mental avenues when they're, because they're over there and they're fighting different

00:19:25wars and they're seeing things that normal, you don't see as a child or growing up.

00:19:30So, it's shock.

00:19:31Their system is shocked.

00:19:33Their body is shocked.

00:19:34And not to mention coming back with, like, issues over there that makes you sick or physically breaking your body

00:19:44down.

00:19:45You guys put your lives on the line for all the Americans, for every human being in America.

00:19:53You're over there doing something to save, keep us safe, keep the children safe, keep the elderly safe.

00:20:01There has to be things in place to keep the veterans safe.

00:20:05Yeah, and that's what I'm hoping that they propose, because if we can make a difference now, then maybe other

00:20:11bills will come into place.

00:20:13And if I can start there and it gets passed, then I can also propose more bills, you know?

00:20:17But for right now, I just want the taxes to be taken care of because it won't help for this

00:20:22year, but it could help for next year once we get started.

00:20:25And that's, you know, for me, being heard was the most important thing, because when I sent my email first,

00:20:32they had sent me back an email saying, you know, are you available this week, this time?

00:20:37And I was like, yeah.

00:20:38But they didn't get back to me for, like, four weeks.

00:20:40And I was like, what's going on, you know?

00:20:42So, they finally said, you know, we're sorry.

00:20:44They said the other.

00:20:44So, it was nice to actually be heard yesterday and to actually get a meeting in to where her and

00:20:52the aide was there.

00:20:53And she said, in two weeks, we'll send you an email about what we're proposing, what we're going to put

00:20:58together.

00:20:59And I was like, all right.

00:21:01And I told her, I mentioned my children's book because I was trying to get it into education system.

00:21:07And I said, I sent over 260 emails.

00:21:10And after 40 emails, the lady got really mad at me and told me to stop writing her because she's

00:21:15the decision maker.

00:21:16And she's not going to make it go forward because of all these other things.

00:21:21And I said, there shouldn't be one person making the decision for all the education systems over here.

00:21:26It's just not okay.

00:21:27So, she's like, I will look at that.

00:21:29And I said, did you know that in Bend, Oregon, we are almost the highest rated for sex trafficking and

00:21:37human trafficking?

00:21:38Her mouth dropped.

00:21:40And she looked at her aide like this, like, did you know that?

00:21:44She's like, no.

00:21:45She goes, I'm going to talk to the police department and find out if that's true.

00:21:48And I'm like, good.

00:21:49I hope you do.

00:21:50Because that's why I'm here, you know?

00:21:52And I figure if I went through all these things to get me to this point, then I want to

00:22:00use it for good, you know?

00:22:01And I'm not trying to use, like, that cheesy cliche of, no, you do this.

00:22:05You know, I'm not a Hallmark saying, you know?

00:22:07But basically, I really genuinely have been making changes and trying to help make changes since I was in the

00:22:13military in 1997,

00:22:15representing the base in Fort Carson, and then being sent to Washington, D.C. to represent over 27,000 soldiers

00:22:23at the time.

00:22:24So, I got a lot of things changed at the base, you know?

00:22:27And when I went back 10 years later, there was all these changes that were made because of what I

00:22:31asked for.

00:22:32And, like, almost everything was done except for changing our pink billets for the medics.

00:22:38Because it was like, here's your Pepto-Bismol building.

00:22:41So, it was kind of the joke of that, of our base, you know?

00:22:45It was like, oh, they ain't changing this.

00:22:47All right.

00:22:48So, anybody, they're going to know exactly what you're talking about.

00:22:52Yeah.

00:22:53And we didn't have any telephones on the actual base.

00:22:56So, what I wanted was that we only had the, you know, you could put a quarter into the actual

00:23:02telephone, and then you can pick it up.

00:23:05They didn't have cell phones back then, you know?

00:23:07So, you only had a pay phone.

00:23:09So, basically, what I wanted to do is, so they created, so I brought in Sprint, and Sprint gave us

00:23:15contracts to each room to be able to have telephones in at that time.

00:23:20So, that was the biggest change, too, to Fort Carson.

00:23:23Because every time you were waiting for the pay phone, you'd wait for hours just to talk to your family

00:23:29members.

00:23:29And people were getting angry and upset.

00:23:31And I'm like, okay, what can I do to make this make a difference?

00:23:35So, I just went to each, you know, different unit, and I was like, what can we do to make

00:23:40a change?

00:23:41You know, what's bothering me the most?

00:23:43And if I could find out what's bothering them the most, then I could try to fix those problems.

00:23:52Sorry, I was talking to the dog.

00:23:55I muted myself because he started bark.

00:23:57But I think that's fabulous.

00:23:59Thank you for your service.

00:24:01Yeah.

00:24:01Honestly, because I think that every person that puts their life on the line for any Americans, they need to

00:24:09be, we need to have gratitude for everybody.

00:24:12And what you're doing is you're preserving people's lives by helping them to have more quality in life, especially after

00:24:19they've already served their time.

00:24:21They've become veterans, they've been disabled, or whatever has happened to them.

00:24:29Some of them go through mental problems and all of that.

00:24:35And by making it aware that you need more doctoring, you need more help, your hospitals are lacking.

00:24:43And that's why suicides are happening.

00:24:46And that's why, I mean, I had a neighbor that was a veteran from the Vietnam War, and of course

00:24:51he had a lot of issues.

00:24:52And he ended up shooting his gun in the middle of the night drinking because alcohol went, because he was,

00:24:59you know, when people, they need medicine, but they drink instead.

00:25:06So he was kind of masking his need for help.

00:25:12Then he took a gun out, the police arrested him, he'd go into jail, and it was so sad because

00:25:17we knew, we who knew him, knew he had a lot of issues with the VA, with him, but there

00:25:25was nothing they could do to beat that poor old man up.

00:25:28So here he is, like, 80-year-old man getting all beat up, and he's a veteran, he saved lives.

00:25:33What are we doing?

00:25:34What are we doing to these people?

00:25:36Right.

00:25:36Because without them, we wouldn't be here.

00:25:39My grandfather is a vet, my brothers, all three of them went into service.

00:25:43They all got, you know, they all got their, they got out honorably.

00:25:51And I'm grateful that they would do that for us.

00:25:55You know what I'm saying?

00:25:57So I appreciate what you're doing for these people, because I'm part of that, too.

00:26:02Even though I'm not, I didn't join, my family members did.

00:26:06And so I, I knew all about, like, my brothers, Navy, Navy, Air Force, and, yeah, Navy, Navy, Air Force,

00:26:15and the Army.

00:26:16Right.

00:26:17My oldest, my oldest brother doubled up, so he went from one, he went to Air Force, then into the

00:26:22Navy.

00:26:23Okay.

00:26:24What did he like better?

00:26:26He, he became a dentist while he was in there, and then he went to Tufts College, so he got

00:26:31his degree and all that.

00:26:32Then he went to be on the ship, and then was the dentist on the ship.

00:26:35He loved it.

00:26:36He loved it.

00:26:37Right.

00:26:38You know, he, he, when he got married, there was, I was shaking hands with some of the highest end

00:26:45people in the service, and they were people.

00:26:49But they were, there was, like, so many ranks to their names before their name came.

00:26:54So it was, like, a super honor to think this person is in charge of thousands of people.

00:27:01Right.

00:27:02Keeping us safe.

00:27:04So, I had a funny feeling about, like, how wonderful these people were.

00:27:09Like, I pedestaled them, but they didn't expect that.

00:27:14You know, they don't expect to be pedestaled, because they're doing their job, and they're doing what they signed up

00:27:18for, but they also sometimes love what they're doing.

00:27:21Right.

00:27:23You know, I think that's just when young people get in the service, they don't know what they want to

00:27:27do.

00:27:28But eventually, they figure it out, because there's so many different avenues.

00:27:32Well, a lot of them are hiding from either abuse or abusive situations or because of their childhood.

00:27:38So you take somebody who's, like, quote, unquote, broken, and they go into a system, and they're trying to find

00:27:45some type of, like, belonging.

00:27:48And then you take them away from that, and they don't – a lot of soldiers don't know how to

00:27:53transition into the civilian life, per se, because they want to know that they matter.

00:28:00They want to know that they're doing something.

00:28:03And when they become, like, sergeants or when they're officers and they become captains and stuff, they're making those decisions.

00:28:11And the problem with that is when they get out in the civilian world, you can tell somebody to do

00:28:16something all day, and they'll be looking at you like, that's nice.

00:28:19They don't have to follow – there's no following orders in the civilian world.

00:28:22It's a whole other world, but there's no helping them to acclimate into society either.

00:28:30I mean, there are programs trying to do that, but it doesn't work.

00:28:34You'll never know what the civilian world is like until you're there.

00:28:38And you can take all these classes to say, you know, this is how it's going to go, but you

00:28:43won't know it until you experience it.

00:28:45It's just like somebody saying, you know, going to war.

00:28:48You'll never know what somebody's experiencing until you get shot at or their bombs are going off or you haven't

00:28:56slept in over 48 hours and haven't had a meal and you're trying to figure things out, you know.

00:29:01And that's impossible.

00:29:02And these television shows, they're like, you know, the movies that, you know, and that's why a lot of soldiers

00:29:08kind of get frustrated because it's like, well, it's so far off base.

00:29:13But, you know, there are some that are actually really good documentary types and they are legit, like straight right

00:29:21on of like what happened, you know, like the guy that saved all those people and then he came back.

00:29:28There's two really good films that were literally directly involved with that.

00:29:33And so I think people try to get the details right.

00:29:36Right. And then, you know, if you have other veterans that have experienced it and they're in the film, it's

00:29:42kind of easier because they can tell you like, oh, hey, you know, hold your weapon like this, you know,

00:29:49do that.

00:29:50You know, you're not going to go into a room and be wide open.

00:29:56That's a safety protocol.

00:29:57So or when you're looking at their boots and you're like, tuck your legs, tuck your laces in, you know,

00:30:03like the little things that people will notice if you don't do it.

00:30:07You know, like that's the first thing somebody said, hey, tell him to put his boots, you know, on right.

00:30:13And I'm like, what are you talking about?

00:30:14He's like, go look.

00:30:16And I'm like, oh, his laces.

00:30:16He says, all right, he did, tuck your laces in.

00:30:20Yeah, I was rolling my eyes because I'm like, this is a film, people.

00:30:24Come on.

00:30:25But I understand where they're coming from, too, because it's like everything is, you know, to some people, everything is

00:30:30in order.

00:30:31And when things get out of order, that's disarray for them.

00:30:34So they're like they're looking for all the things that are wrong and scanning, you know, great.

00:30:39The things that are right.

00:30:40But in the military, they're looking for what's wrong.

00:30:46Well, there's a reason for everything.

00:30:48I mean, they they have been they were training that that way, I'm sure, as well.

00:30:53So it's it goes down the line.

00:30:56Well, the reason you put those laces in the boots is because if you're on certain humvees or doing certain

00:31:05things, your laces can get caught up and then your foot's gone.

00:31:09Oh, wow.

00:31:11Pretty important to get your laces tucked in.

00:31:13But people, you know, are like, why is this so important?

00:31:16And I'm like, well, get your foot taken off.

00:31:18Maybe you'll know why.

00:31:20Maybe you'll always put your pin.

00:31:21Maybe you always lace up those and stick them in there.

00:31:24And it's a habit now.

00:31:25Like sometimes I'm shoving my laces and I'm like, whoops, pull them back out.

00:31:30I never thought of that, but that makes 100 percent like because if you caught yourself walking, you're going down.

00:31:39Yeah.

00:31:40And you might lose your foot.

00:31:42I mean, literally in the machines that we use, well, especially nowadays, it's a lot different.

00:31:46But when I was in, there are just certain things that you go around like in in like the helicopter

00:31:53areas, in the Humvee areas, in in training.

00:31:57When you're going through all these things in training, it's not the right time to be worried about your boots.

00:32:04You know, you need to learn that training so that should war happen.

00:32:08Because and that's what people forget, too.

00:32:11We go in the service knowing that we're going to be signed up and we could go to war.

00:32:15And I think people have forgotten that in this new generation, new system.

00:32:20It's a living in a fluff world of the military.

00:32:23I don't know where people are getting this idea.

00:32:26Soft feathers and butterflies.

00:32:27When you know it's it's hardcore, it's it's labor intensive.

00:32:33When you're in boot camp, that's just that's not even like that's just the beginning.

00:32:37That's not telling you what it's going to be like five years down the road.

00:32:41Sure.

00:32:42But when you go to your duty stations and all that other stuff, that's where the real training comes into

00:32:47effect.

00:32:47And I think that the civilian world, they forget that any military is only there for just in case we

00:32:56go to war.

00:32:57You know, they're like, well, I don't want him to go to war.

00:33:00And I'm like, for me, I joined the military to go to war.

00:33:03I'm a nurse now, you know, a trauma nurse when I got out.

00:33:08That's the best training I could ever get.

00:33:10If you know, because I wanted to go to Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:33:12My friends like, no, you don't.

00:33:13I'm like, yes, I do.

00:33:15They sent me.

00:33:15I'm like, they sent me to the wrong place, sent me to the wrong country.

00:33:18And I'm like, no, I'll be glad you didn't go.

00:33:19You know, there's a lot of things that people got messed up with.

00:33:22There's friends of mine that went like three and four tours and then they went to Somalia and then to

00:33:26Africa and went to all these different things.

00:33:28And each war is different.

00:33:31Even if you go to the same place, each time it's different.

00:33:35You're using different technology.

00:33:37You're using, you know, an AT4, which is a grenade launcher.

00:33:40You're just using so many different things.

00:33:42The 50 cal, you're, you know, AR-16.

00:33:47There's all these things that you're using back then.

00:33:50And now there's just so much technology that's bringing us today, but there's still some of the same things that

00:33:56we're dealing with.

00:33:57And so for the civilians, it's like, I think we need to remind people, you know, we are there in

00:34:03the military.

00:34:04And whoever is the president at the time is our biggest leader.

00:34:09I mean, that we have to follow his orders no matter what.

00:34:13You don't disrespect or you don't disregard those orders or you're getting kicked out.

00:34:17And if you get kicked out, you're getting kicked out dishonorably.

00:34:20And you don't have a job when you get out because nobody wants a dishonorable discharge.

00:34:24And nobody wants a dishonorable search soldier because when they get out, they're going to be disgruntled.

00:34:30And nobody wants to deal with that.

00:34:33Right.

00:34:33Maybe I'll take that back.

00:34:35Maybe when you're in construction or something that like people grab their own business, like plumbing or whatever.

00:34:42But nobody really wants to hire somebody who's been dishonorably discharged because then you got to figure out why did

00:34:49they get dishonorably discharged?

00:34:51Was it a mental issue?

00:34:52Was it a physical issue?

00:34:53Was it a combination of both?

00:34:55Like if this guy got dishonorably discharged, you have to do something pretty good to get out like that.

00:35:02Right.

00:35:03They have to do something or even just run away, like be a coward and take off.

00:35:07Oh, no, you can't run.

00:35:08You'll get put in jail.

00:35:09You'll go to Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.

00:35:11So there's no there is no running out.

00:35:14There is no I quit.

00:35:15There is no I'm going to go here for the weekend and do a trip.

00:35:19You have to tell your soldiers where you're going and all these other things, because if you don't, you're considered

00:35:25AWOL, which is called absence without leave.

00:35:27And they will put you in jail.

00:35:29They can put you in jail or they can do all these other things that people don't understand either.

00:35:33It's the repercussions.

00:35:34You know, if somebody goes out and goes on vacation and doesn't tell their commander and all of a sudden

00:35:39their commander is trying to call them and they're not available.

00:35:42Oh, boy, is there a lot of trouble?

00:35:43And it's not fun.

00:35:46Yeah, no, I can't imagine.

00:35:48So some of you are out of education.

00:35:50Then they get double jeopardy, too, on that when they come home.

00:35:54Right.

00:35:54Oh, really?

00:35:56Yeah, it's not good.

00:35:58And there's certain people who even tried to do certain things while they were in war.

00:36:03And the consequences are so deep that, you know, it's like you play the game and then you don't realize

00:36:10the consequences.

00:36:12Well, the consequences are there for a reason.

00:36:16It's probably to scare people as well so that they don't.

00:36:19I think so.

00:36:21And they don't.

00:36:21You know, if you have if you have stuff that's so scary that, you know, do you know that's going

00:36:26to happen for the consequences?

00:36:28It kind of makes it prevention.

00:36:30You know, it's like I'm not going anywhere.

00:36:32Hey, I'm going over here.

00:36:33You know, and you're going to make sure you clock in to whoever you're supposed to and report to who

00:36:39you're supposed to.

00:36:40And then when you get out and you have that piece of paper that says you are honorably discharged, you

00:36:46get something called DD 214.

00:36:48And everything that you have done from beginning literally to the end is put on that service record.

00:36:56So and that's a big, important paper because you're not really there are certain things that they can't put on

00:37:02there, too.

00:37:03You know, depending on what you were doing and where you were at.

00:37:07But for the most part, I've been to places that they could not put stuff like that in my files

00:37:16because it would take congressional today and someone in a skiff to say, oh, OK, maybe.

00:37:23No, no, yeah, no, you're right.

00:37:27Like my trip to Bosnia, they didn't put it in there as well.

00:37:30So there are some things that that are covert operations and they can't say anything.

00:37:37What when I was in going to Bosnia, Croatia and Hungary, we weren't even allowed to do.

00:37:42We couldn't even call anybody at the time.

00:37:45They were like, basically, you're leaving in 24 hours.

00:37:48Pack your bags.

00:37:49Do not tell anybody.

00:37:51So and people don't realize that.

00:37:52So when families are like, where did you go?

00:37:54Why didn't you tell me?

00:37:55Why didn't you just give me a heads up?

00:37:56It's like I was ordered not to.

00:37:58And if I'm ordered not to, there's a reason why we're ordered not to.

00:38:02And you have a certain amount of time to pack your bags, literally, and get out.

00:38:09And you cannot talk about that because that's private.

00:38:12I mean, that's top secret.

00:38:13That's a mission.

00:38:15And they don't want that.

00:38:17Well, squeaky wheel.

00:38:18They don't want things leaked, you know, because if one person gets it out, then then somebody else is going

00:38:25to get out.

00:38:25And there's no real secrets when people are like, oh, because you worry people, you know, from home.

00:38:31You're like, oh, I'm going to go to this place and we're going to war.

00:38:34It worries people.

00:38:35Yeah, we can't even tell Congress.

00:38:38Oh, no.

00:38:40No.

00:38:41Can't tell nobody.

00:38:43But then you can be sanctioned really bad if you do say something.

00:38:48There are consequences to your actions.

00:38:51Yeah.

00:38:52So we have your actions as well.

00:38:55And that goes even after you're done with your time in service because, you know, that's why I don't talk

00:39:02about a lot of places that I've been or done things that I've done because I don't know if it's,

00:39:08you know, been cleared that, you know, oh, yeah.

00:39:11You know, that's that's old enough that we don't have to think about or, you know, we can talk about

00:39:18because that's maybe Cold War stuff.

00:39:20I actually signed documents in 1997 that basically would promise that I would never say anything about a certain place

00:39:31that I had gone.

00:39:32And if I spoke out, then there would be consequences to that.

00:39:38And still to this day, like you're not allowed to say anything when you get out of the military, either

00:39:42you sign those documents and I don't want to go to jail.

00:39:46So I'm OK with shut my mouth.

00:39:48Well, I'm certain things that people ask.

00:39:49I'm like, why don't you go into the books and look for yourself?

00:39:53And if you can't find it, you weren't meant to know it.

00:39:58That's awesome.

00:39:59And when people push me for that information, I will tell them flat out, like either we're going to be

00:40:05done with this conversation or I need to move on or, you know, you can we can change the subject.

00:40:11But you're not going to tell me to tell you what I can't tell you just because you want to

00:40:16know you're curious.

00:40:17So there's just certain things that people take for granted, you know, and they think that we're joking about something

00:40:23or or it can't be that serious.

00:40:26Right.

00:40:26When I sign papers to basically make sure that I don't tell people certain things, it's pretty serious.

00:40:33Obviously, I wouldn't be signing a piece of paper to say I'm going to keep my mouth shut forever.

00:40:38I'm going to take this to the grave.

00:40:40Yeah.

00:40:42And then people wonder, like, you know, well, when you were out there, did you see this?

00:40:45And I'm like, I just told you I can't answer that.

00:40:50Yeah.

00:40:50And that's baiting you to communicate.

00:40:53Oh, yeah.

00:40:53Yeah.

00:40:53And you would never guess that even cooks have a high level security clearance.

00:41:00Yeah.

00:41:01Everybody.

00:41:02Anybody that goes.

00:41:03Anybody that's part of that tribe or that group of people, they all they're all signing that documentation to top

00:41:13secret.

00:41:14Some people are not, though.

00:41:16Some people are just soldiers and they have no idea.

00:41:19But in certain cases, there are people that have to sign a paper before they get out because they went

00:41:24on certain missions that they weren't that nobody is supposed to know about.

00:41:28So, you know, I signed documents before I got out in 1997 stating that that everything everything was fine, you

00:41:37know, so only on my on my D214, it says where I went to basic training and then the two

00:41:45bases that I was at and nothing in between.

00:41:48So I'm like, that's interesting.

00:41:51And then your awards and stuff like that.

00:41:53And people are like, that doesn't make sense, Mindy.

00:41:56Why do you have this award when it just says you were here and here?

00:41:59I'm like, well, that's something that you have to figure out on your own.

00:42:04Yeah.

00:42:04That's kind of like that.

00:42:06That's kind of like now I'm allowed to say that.

00:42:08But, oh, yeah, I served in NATO with a blue eye.

00:42:13But what did I do there?

00:42:16Not going to tell you that.

00:42:18No.

00:42:19Right.

00:42:20Because it's telling secrets and that's called espionage.

00:42:23And, you know, you see all these spy movies and stuff like that.

00:42:27Some of it is scary real.

00:42:29And they're like, you know, don't think that they're not listening into conversations and don't think that they don't have

00:42:36the ability to any any time to go into your computer, go into your phone, come into your life.

00:42:44Like people don't realize that.

00:42:46Even after you've been been released from.

00:42:50Sometimes, especially after you've been released, because they want to know that you're keeping the secret and they'll also put

00:42:56people in place undercover.

00:42:59You know, our phones will, even if you try to delete something, it has a microchip.

00:43:05You're not deleting it.

00:43:06You're deleting it for you.

00:43:07But if the person that, you know, has the technology, it's never going to be erased.

00:43:14That's why people I tell people, I caution them, you know, be careful what you put on the Internet, because

00:43:19once it's on there, it's never coming off.

00:43:22Whether you think it's deleted or not.

00:43:24I agree with you on that.

00:43:26I've been asked to send nude photos.

00:43:28I'll never do that.

00:43:29I don't want my naked body on the Internet forever.

00:43:31I don't care who they are.

00:43:34I don't.

00:43:36But I completely understand that secrecy, because they have to do that.

00:43:42We have to stay safe.

00:43:44And that's how they are safe.

00:43:46So they're doing it for the positive reason.

00:43:49You're having to hold the secret and acting like, you know, two months, three months of your life is invisible.

00:43:56Like, but you know what you've experienced.

00:43:59You know what level it was at.

00:44:01You know what you had to do.

00:44:02You know, you were trained.

00:44:05And it takes a lot for a young person now to go from high school into the service.

00:44:11Because I wish they would just get them grown already.

00:44:15Because I don't, I don't know.

00:44:16These young people today, they're just not mentally ready for it.

00:44:20That's what we're living in.

00:44:21After COVID, everything went upside down and it's changed.

00:44:24You know, we have a new generation that is looking through these little goggle things, literally.

00:44:30And they're going on the computer and they're playing games.

00:44:33And that's also, you know, what we're warning children and their parents that there's a lot of pedophiles on those

00:44:39things.

00:44:40And you're at risk.

00:44:41Your children are at risk.

00:44:43So we need to educate.

00:44:44We need to teach, like, what sites they're on and do their due diligence.

00:44:50And parents, you know, I often ask, you know, hey, is there any way that you can look into what

00:44:56your child is looking at?

00:44:58Like, what are they going through?

00:45:01What games are they playing?

00:45:02You know, so there's a lot of things that I don't understand because I'm not a techie person, number one.

00:45:09And I don't wear those goggles and do all these games online.

00:45:13I just, there's been too many times that we haven't really had that opportunity yet.

00:45:21Right.

00:45:23Right.

00:45:24But I like that you're getting involved with helping with the sex trafficking because that is a huge issue right

00:45:30now.

00:45:30You know, if you, I don't know where you're from, but wherever everybody's from, when you look on the news,

00:45:36the local news near you, you're going to see all these busts of all these adults that are sex trafficking,

00:45:41all these children.

00:45:42And it just, it's scary.

00:45:44It's very, very scary.

00:45:46Right.

00:45:46And people are condemning President Trump.

00:45:49And I just want to announce, you know, I am, I am for whoever is the president because I am

00:45:54very supportive of like what we're doing.

00:45:57But to say that he's not doing anything is kind of a misdemeanor because he basically just rescued over 300

00:46:03people that were getting trafficked.

00:46:05And he's telling people and he's finding these people in all sorts of different areas.

00:46:09And it's not out there.

00:46:12It's in your backyard.

00:46:13And a lot of people are getting, you know, well, why are we going to this country here?

00:46:18Because those people from that country are filtering into our country and are taking them back to their country.

00:46:28So we are intertwined.

00:46:30We are interrelated.

00:46:32And that's also why I wanted my children's book and as many police departments, family advocacy groups as much as

00:46:40possible.

00:46:40And then eventually what I'd really like to do, my dream, is to get the book made into either a

00:46:47cartoon or an animation so that people that can't read can at least watch it.

00:46:51And then I also want my autobiography to turn into a movie because then it could really reach anybody around

00:46:59the world.

00:47:00Like I have six different people who've written a book because they read mine and they're all in different countries.

00:47:06You know, Australia, the UK, one's in Russia, you know, so there's all sorts of different places that people have

00:47:15genuinely, I've made a difference.

00:47:18And though I've made this amount of difference, it's not enough for me.

00:47:24And it should be enough, but it's not.

00:47:26I want to make a difference in a larger scope of practice.

00:47:30So I would like to figure out a way to get it.

00:47:34And you can get my books on Amazon.

00:47:35They're also in walmart.com online.

00:47:38And they're also at Barnes & Noble online.

00:47:41And again, it looks like this, A Dragon's Voice for 12 and under.

00:47:46And then also Resilient Warrior is my autobiography.

00:47:51Now, Mindy, talk a little bit about your biography.

00:47:54So my autobiography takes you from basically age three to about 2020.

00:48:01And the reason I started at age three is because I'm an incest survivor.

00:48:05I'm also a sexual assault survivor of many.

00:48:07My brother set me up in multiple different areas in different ways, unfortunately.

00:48:12And he wanted me in different ways that are inappropriate.

00:48:15So I think that's also why I wrote my children's book, to make things become real and help people

00:48:23understand what conversations we need to have.

00:48:26And so it goes from that to also going into different relationships that I've had.

00:48:35It segues into the military, what I dealt with then.

00:48:39And it segues also to where I was tortured for four straight months in San Antonio, Texas

00:48:43hospital.

00:48:44And I had to relearn how to walk, talk, and everything else and swallow everything.

00:48:49So when I say I was bedbound, I mean, literally, I had to have my left foot all the way

00:48:53up for

00:48:54three years and eight months.

00:48:55And then I relearned how to walk after seven years.

00:48:59So and then having four organs taken out and being in three comas.

00:49:02So I just wanted people were like, Oh, my gosh, you should write a book.

00:49:05And I got so tired of that, you know, people asking me.

00:49:08But when my grandmother asked me, she asked me to write it when I was just out of the

00:49:42military.

00:49:43And he's like, the antenna is going off like, Oh, here we go.

00:49:47Ask away.

00:49:48And then she actually said.

00:49:52These certain characters, is this so and so?

00:49:55And is this so and so?

00:49:57Because this sounds like so and so.

00:49:59And I was like, well, damn for dementia.

00:50:01She shares with it.

00:50:03All right.

00:50:03But she was absolutely right.

00:50:05She guessed every single person that it was.

00:50:09And so I think that I was here.

00:50:13Basically, if I've survived all of that, why not help other people get through it?

00:50:19Why not help other people figure out?

00:50:21Like they would people would ask me like, so what did you do to get over it?

00:50:27And I was like, well, I didn't get over it.

00:50:29There's no getting over it.

00:50:30It's getting through it.

00:50:31And then when you're getting through it, there may be constant reminders of the things that

00:50:36have been done and things that are hidden in your body or hidden in your mind somewhere

00:50:43where when you open Pandora's box, get a little scary.

00:50:48And when you also open Pandora's box, some people don't know where to go or what to do.

00:50:54And that's why there's suicide, because they get to a point where they don't know how to

00:50:58tell their secrets.

00:50:59They can't go to counseling.

00:51:01There's certain things that they are embarrassed.

00:51:04You know, and the last five or six years, I've been talking to a lot of men who have been

00:51:09assaulted as well.

00:51:10And unfortunately, they're so embarrassed because they want to be seen as a man.

00:51:15And they think that at any point that they're not a man just because they've been assaulted.

00:51:20And that's not true at all.

00:51:21He's not more afraid to speak up on sexual crimes against himself than a woman would be.

00:51:28Because unfortunately, there's that stigma.

00:51:32So men don't want to be stigmatized and they want that help, but they don't know how to ask.

00:51:36And so I when I wrote my story, a friend of mine reached out to me and at first he

00:51:43was

00:51:43super angry and I couldn't figure out, like, why are you yelling at me?

00:51:46Why are you so angry?

00:51:48Come to find out he was raped by three women in the military and then he couldn't tell his

00:51:54story because he felt so, like, embarrassed for what happened and stuff like that, that

00:52:00he was mad that I got my story out, but he couldn't get his.

00:52:03And so I gave him basically an avenue to release those emotions and to release that.

00:52:09So I've been talking to people from all over the world at this point in time, and I genuinely

00:52:14help them get through certain issues that they have, whether it be the military or sexual

00:52:19assault or homelessness or, you know, different things that can make somebody want to commit

00:52:27suicide.

00:52:27And I've taken these classes that are, you know, very important to to help prevent suicide

00:52:33or even when somebody is in that suicidal state to be able to go talk to them with somebody,

00:52:40you know, or if somebody needs me to talk to them right away, I can do that as well with

00:52:46this class that I just did.

00:52:48And then I'm also doing something called profiling and and that's basically to help the sex trafficking

00:52:54and human alliance.

00:52:55And that's basically to help work trying to create as much awareness as possible to decrease

00:53:01it, because when people don't know about it, they think it's somewhere else, not realizing

00:53:08it's behind their closed doors.

00:53:10It's their neighbors next door and children that are able to call people that are not related.

00:53:16Oh, this is my auntie.

00:53:18Oh, this is my uncle.

00:53:19Sometimes that's predatory behavior.

00:53:22You know, sometimes that's called grooming.

00:53:24And what people don't understand is grooming starts very, very small.

00:53:29And then it gets larger and telling the child, pretending like they're super special.

00:53:35Um, you know, like the grooming part, that is, I think the most disgusting way a human being

00:53:43can go at any child because they trust them.

00:53:48They're buying them an ice cream and buying them something.

00:53:51They're making them feel special.

00:53:52They're going to buy them a bicycle, but they're really not.

00:53:55They're really just going to do it.

00:53:56Well, and that segues into like how people, how kids can get taken.

00:54:01And so what I try to also explain to parents is when I put in there, listen to your intuition,

00:54:06what I would like them to do and go further is talk to them about like at school, if somebody

00:54:14comes up to you and says, your mom told me to come get you.

00:54:17So I'm, I'm going to bring you home, you tell them that they need to go to the principal

00:54:22or somebody that they trust to make sure that that really happened.

00:54:26And then what I tell the parents to do even further is get somebody that the kid doesn't

00:54:30know and practice, practice.

00:54:33What would happen if somebody came over that they didn't know that you feel safe with?

00:54:39Cause you're, you know, setting it up and then if they, whatever they do, then you can

00:54:45have a conversation based on that, whether they did great, then you tell them what they

00:54:49did great.

00:54:49If they missed the ballpark, you tell them why, you know, and they learn really quick

00:54:54that way, you know, like, Oh, somebody stole my puppies.

00:54:57Can you help me find them?

00:54:58No.

00:54:59Hey, I got some candy in my truck.

00:55:01Do you want some?

00:55:02No.

00:55:02Right.

00:55:03No.

00:55:03Right.

00:55:04Can you take off your clothes and let's take some pictures?

00:55:06No.

00:55:07Can you get in my bathtub?

00:55:09I mean, these are the things that happened to me when I was younger.

00:55:11And so I brought them into play so that people could learn from what I went through so that

00:55:17it doesn't happen.

00:55:19You know, it's going to happen.

00:55:20So if we could decrease it, that won't be too.

00:55:24There used to be guys that would try to get you these teenage girls to be models.

00:55:30Correct.

00:55:30And that was the thing to do too.

00:55:32I'm going to make you famous.

00:55:33I'm going to, we're going to make so much money together.

00:55:36I take them to a location and you might never see the girl again.

00:55:41Correct.

00:55:41You're gone.

00:55:42Cause there's, they're, they're basically baiting them for a dream that they have.

00:55:48When that dream is a night, when a dream becomes a nightmare.

00:55:51Yeah.

00:55:52So I'd like to do prevention and knowledge, you know, they, they want that, like the attention

00:55:59of, of feeling special.

00:56:01And then this creep comes along and says all these wonderful things.

00:56:06Well, everybody at their, at their point, everybody to a point wants to be seen and wants

00:56:12to be heard.

00:56:12Right.

00:56:15What was you going to say, Mark?

00:56:17I was going to say, uh, if, if Mindy can, let's keep this going.

00:56:21Even if we have to restart the call here in a couple minutes.

00:56:25Okay.

00:56:26We had to, we're already at the top of the hour.

00:56:28We've been talking that much.

00:56:29Wow.

00:56:29This is crazy.

00:56:32Yeah.

00:56:32I noticed that when I talked, people were like, uh, that hour went by a little too quick.

00:56:37It went really fast.

00:56:39Do you want to do another half an hour?

00:56:40Okay.

00:56:41What we'll do is this, okay.

00:56:43We're going to, what we're going to do is we're going to take a break.

00:56:48I'm going to reset the call, bring you guys all right back here again, just like we did

00:56:54before.

00:56:55Okay.

00:56:55Yep.

00:56:56So, uh, and then we can go up to another hour on top of that.

00:57:01All right.

00:57:01Okay.

00:57:02Good.

00:57:02Okay.

00:57:03That's up to you.

00:57:04Uh, but you know, we don't want to go too much more than that.

00:57:08All right.

00:57:08No, we'll fill it out.

00:57:10All right.

00:57:11So, uh, and the timer on the, on the room is an hour anyways.

00:57:15So once we start the group, but anyways, uh, I'm going to do that.

00:57:21We'll be right back folks.

00:57:23Uh, we're going to take a little intermission here right now and we'll be back right back

00:57:27with Debbie and Mindy.

00:57:30So we're back with Mindy, Mindy, I'm going to say her name wrong.

00:57:35I know I am.

00:57:36She's going to correct me and I love her for it.

00:57:40Mindy, did you want to put your camera back on or did you want to?

00:57:43I have it on.

00:57:44Can you not see it?

00:57:45No, I only see it.

00:57:47Mark, do you see her?

00:57:48I see her.

00:57:49Everything's coming through.

00:57:50Now it's, now it's gone.

00:57:51It'll be back.

00:57:52Don't worry.

00:57:53There she is.

00:57:54Okay.

00:57:54I see you now.

00:57:55Perfect.

00:57:56All right.

00:57:56So where we go, I would turn it off and then turn it back on.

00:57:59So where we were leaving off was, um, your, your passion on helping people to be more

00:58:05awakened by the sex trafficking and, and the things that's going on.

00:58:09Now, would you create another book on that too, to, to specify like different scenarios

00:58:16or something for children to be safe or, cause I love that to write more books.

00:58:23I think children, I just don't know what direction I want to go into, but I was also

00:58:28thinking, um, a friend of mine was wrongfully incarcerated because his wife at the time

00:58:36was very angry.

00:58:37And when they got divorced, she had said some things that weren't very true.

00:58:44And so he ended up going to jail.

00:58:46So what I was talking to him about, cause he, now he can't see his kids and he's ordered

00:58:51basically, you know, restricted from where you can't see them.

00:58:56And I said, I wonder if I could create a book called like mommy's away or mommy and daddy

00:59:03are away so that when they see that they're incarcerated, that maybe that they can understand

00:59:10that they're still cared about because a lot of kids think that it's their fault of what

00:59:14happened or something went that they did when, you know, it's like children for the most part

00:59:21will think it's all of their fault.

00:59:23And so I'm not exactly sure what books or book I want to create next.

00:59:29Um, and I'm not even sure if I want to create a book.

00:59:32I'm just kind of going to go with this one for right now.

00:59:34And then when my brain is ready to, you know, think of something else that's good, then I

00:59:42think then I will come back to it.

00:59:46I think your camera's off.

00:59:51Well, she's probably messing with the dogs.

00:59:54Keep going, Mindy.

00:59:56Okay.

00:59:56So what I also am thrilled about is I basically tapped into something independent filming and

01:00:07the independent filming has been fun because it takes you into a place where you get to

01:00:14be different than who you are without any consequences.

01:00:17And I like that.

01:00:19So I have dabbled into the horror genre right now.

01:00:24And somebody asked me, you know, like, what role do you want to do?

01:00:28And I said, it doesn't matter what role.

01:00:31I want to be able to kill somebody and I want to die.

01:00:33And I also want to get to the point where basically, um, I get a strong female character

01:00:44because I wanted to be able to expand my, I didn't want to get stuck in one genre.

01:00:48So I've done, you know, horror, I've done horror, comedy, action, and there's a whole

01:00:54bunch of different things that I've done so that I don't get stuck in being one character

01:00:59at all times.

01:01:00And the next one is called the killer pizza man.

01:01:03And so that's going to be very interesting and very fun.

01:01:06We're going to start filming in either the middle or end of July.

01:01:11And so it'll be very interesting how that plays out too.

01:01:16Sounds like a comedy.

01:01:18It's supposed to be a horror comedy.

01:01:21So we'll see.

01:01:22Yeah.

01:01:24I bet it'll be funny because that just the title itself.

01:01:27Right.

01:01:27But I think that you'd be such a bonus to military films because of your, just your knowledge,

01:01:35your depth of what you know, how you, how you, your training, you know.

01:01:40Well, I definitely played a soldier in Bridge of the Dune with zombies and other people

01:01:45were starting to ask me like, Hey, do you want to, you know, do you still want to play

01:01:49a military person?

01:01:50And I'm like, it depends on what we're doing, you know, I got to, with these independent

01:01:55feelings, what people don't realize is I can, I get to act with people that I probably normally

01:02:00would not get, get to like Robert Lozardo.

01:02:03Um, all these other different people that I was able to learn from and it has amazed me

01:02:11just being able to watch their craft and see how they're able to transition or they're able

01:02:18to get through things that some would not.

01:02:21So it's just been a very interesting journey so far.

01:02:27Oh, absolutely.

01:02:28Now you, you think in like different types of like period films, like, um, whether it's

01:02:36Renaissance or, or just like Wild Wild West.

01:02:41All of them would be interesting.

01:02:43I'm very open and open-minded.

01:02:45So if somebody did want me to come on and do that role, we would discuss it and then I

01:02:50would look at what they had me doing.

01:02:53Cause that's the other thing.

01:02:54There's certain things that I won't agree to doing.

01:02:57And, and that's fine.

01:02:59You know, they, they would, they can pick somebody else, but then there's things that

01:03:04like, I could like basically look at it and go, you know, I think I could do that, you

01:03:09know, or I'll have the, you know, the role expanded or just depends on what the role is,

01:03:15but I'm definitely interested in getting into more films as well.

01:03:20And I've been doing, uh, voiceovers for people that are in other countries, which is really

01:03:25cool too.

01:03:26In this country too, but it's really fun to see that people have reached out from Australia,

01:03:32Canada, UK.

01:03:34So they start knowing me from my books and then they're like, wait, you do more like,

01:03:41Oh, okay.

01:03:41And I think because I have so many different roles that I do, like I'm a nurse, I'm what's

01:03:48called a WOTC practitioner.

01:03:49So I bring people in the water that have PTSD, anxiety, joint issues, MS, Parkinson's, they've

01:03:56had a stroke, et cetera.

01:03:58I bring them into the warm water where there's minerals and I get to basically the water circles

01:04:04around them.

01:04:04And I do certain things to help stretch their body out and then also get them back to where

01:04:10they're comfortable enough to where they feel like they're safe in back in the womb.

01:04:15And what that does is it makes it so not only do they feel safe, but I can help them

01:04:22through

01:04:22their PTSD, especially military veterans, because it rewires the brain.

01:04:27So once you've been to war or once you've had such a traumatic past or childhood, you have

01:04:34to rewire the brain.

01:04:35Otherwise the wires will get kind of stuck and you'll go into like this, you'll notice

01:04:40some people, they'll talk about the same story over and over and over again, because they

01:04:44don't know how to circulate.

01:04:46They don't know how to veer off to that circulation.

01:04:50So what I've noticed in the past too, is different types of therapy help rewire that and help the

01:04:57brain basically.

01:04:58And if you help the brain calm down, then you help the body.

01:05:01And sometimes the body reacts before the brain does.

01:05:05So basically, if you get those two to come back together, then it's much better, you know?

01:05:11And I think that at this point, there's just so many people that are desperate for change.

01:05:15They just don't know how to get the change.

01:05:17So I created a company called Feed My City.

01:05:20And the premise was one seed, one plant and one garden at a time.

01:05:25And what that means is you plant the seed and then the plant grows.

01:05:30If you can, because there's some people that own farms, take the food that you have and give it

01:05:36to your neighbor if they're down and out or, you know, go to the food banks and give it to

01:05:42them

01:05:42because there's so many people that just throw out their food and throw out things that are

01:05:47not even bad yet because they don't want that overhead.

01:05:53So I implore people to, you know, why don't you give that food away to people that can use it?

01:06:04You're on mute.

01:06:06So many starving people right now and the way economy, like gas prices just went up again

01:06:12and so many people struggling right now, especially elderly people.

01:06:17I say look out for your neighbors because you never know who's having a hard time.

01:06:22You never know who needs, who might need you for a minute or two, even if it was something simple.

01:06:29Well, and at some point, if you're in your 20s, you're going to get to your 30s.

01:06:34And then it's going to creep up to you like it did me.

01:06:37And I'm like, whoa, I'm going to be 50 this year.

01:06:39And back in the day, I was like, gosh, that's old.

01:06:42And my mom's like, wait till you get to that.

01:06:44And my grandma would always remind me of that.

01:06:47She goes, well, one day you're going to be my age.

01:06:49And I was thinking, oh, gosh, no, I'm not.

01:06:51You couldn't conceptualize it.

01:06:54And I'm sure in like 25 years, that's going to be me like, oh, my gosh,

01:06:58where am I hitting 75 years old?

01:07:00And I didn't think I was going to get to this point.

01:07:03And you just never know, too.

01:07:05You never know how long you're going to live in.

01:07:07You never know how long you're destined to be here.

01:07:10You know, many things can happen.

01:07:12I tell people I joke around.

01:07:14I tell people I'm undiable because I haven't died yet.

01:07:17They're all I've been through.

01:07:18You know, three comas, had all these surgical things that, you know, went awry.

01:07:23And I'm still here.

01:07:24So I'm like, well.

01:07:25People are living longer, too.

01:07:27And 70 is not 70 anymore.

01:07:28I see 70-year-olds now.

01:07:31They look like they're in their 40s.

01:07:33Right.

01:07:33And stem cells are great.

01:07:35So if we could eventually get stem cells in America, that would be great.

01:07:40Because I've flown out to Columbia and went to a company called BioAccelerator.

01:07:45They're the number one stem cell company in the world.

01:07:48And what they do is they use Wharton's jelly.

01:07:51And basically what happens is they withdraw the cells from the umbilical cord.

01:07:57It's not a child.

01:07:58They're not doing anything.

01:07:59It's a wasted product anyways.

01:08:02So they take the cells out of the umbilical cord.

01:08:05And they take your blood out.

01:08:07And they mix that into a machine to get the perfect cells for you.

01:08:12And then they inject them back in.

01:08:14So if they inject it into the spinal cord, it's the only way to get past the blood-brain barrier

01:08:20and help with memory issues, TBIs, which is traumatic brain issue, CTEs, which is for the boxers or people that

01:08:29fight.

01:08:30That basically their brain gets kind of mushy in their, you know, memory goes out, their behaviors get sporadic.

01:08:40They're all of a sudden they're angry.

01:08:42It's not for no reasons because they got banged, banged too many times in their head.

01:08:47Or you get soldiers that have been over in war and they've had concussion, concussion.

01:08:52You know, their brain has micro fractures in it because basically they were by these bombs or shots.

01:09:00And the sound areas, the sound is so loud that it can, like, damage.

01:09:06And not only that, people's hearing goes out for that same reason too.

01:09:11So if stem cells can literally revitalize our body, and I'll pause on that one because basically America is big

01:09:22on the proponents of big pharma.

01:09:23So they don't believe in cure.

01:09:26They believe in care because if they cure you, they can't make any more money, which is quite sad to

01:09:31me.

01:09:31You know, and it makes me angry because I don't understand why we can't have more benefits for our country

01:09:37and make big pharma, not go away, but make big pharma understand that actually they might be able to help

01:09:45in a different way.

01:09:46You know, big pharma is not going away.

01:09:48The medications, they're not going away too.

01:09:51And people's illnesses, the way that we eat and all the other stuff that they're talking about, like the 5G

01:09:58radiation, you don't know what's getting into your body.

01:10:01At this point in time, you don't know what's going in your food.

01:10:04You know, the fast food that they give us, there's, you know, this program that somebody went on for 8

01:10:11weeks, and they only lasted 3 weeks before their liver started to fail.

01:10:15So that goes to say that the stuff that we're putting in our mouth, it really heavily weighs on your

01:10:20brain and your body.

01:10:21And it makes a difference.

01:10:23This is all factory made.

01:10:26Unless you are a cook at home and you like to create your own meals independently, all the vegetables separate,

01:10:35nothing that's already been frozen, put in a store.

01:10:39So you're buying frozen food, frozen meat, everything is frozen by the time, and just the carbs and the, all

01:10:48the extra garbage your body doesn't actually need in it.

01:10:51It's all in there.

01:10:52So every time you want one of those $5 meals, you're taking in, you don't know what's going into your

01:11:00body anymore.

01:11:01Right.

01:11:05I'm just saying, like, I'm agreeing with you on that.

01:11:09I think that unless you eat healthy and you cook your own meals and you don't buy that pre-made

01:11:16stuff.

01:11:17Hold on real quick.

01:11:18Sorry.

01:11:19Okay.

01:11:23I'm going to try to create some light in my room, but I tried to turn on my light, but

01:11:29I think the handle is broken.

01:11:33I was telling you, my sprinklers were leaking earlier.

01:11:36It's raining.

01:11:37So here I am thinking, oh, this is going to flood my backyard.

01:11:43I'm like, oh, my God.

01:11:45So I'm like, well, it obviously can't come from the roof.

01:11:49So thankfully, it's raining.

01:11:53It's not very great weather here today, but we had some odd weather today.

01:11:58It's really been weird, though, the weather.

01:12:01Like, we didn't even have a winter this year.

01:12:03There was only one time that the snow even came.

01:12:07And by the time it was like five or ten minutes later, it was all gone.

01:12:11So we didn't, like, I loved it.

01:12:15The skiers, not so much.

01:12:16The people that go up to the mountains, they were not so happy, but I was very happy.

01:12:21We got snow for one day.

01:12:23It was melted the next.

01:12:25Gone.

01:12:27That was crazy.

01:12:28I'm trying to get some light on my picture here because I'm losing light.

01:12:32My lamp's broken.

01:12:34I didn't even know it was.

01:12:36I'm trying to figure it out.

01:12:37Sorry.

01:12:37So if you see me go into the dark, I'm haunting my own house.

01:12:42Oh, my goodness.

01:12:45So, Mindy, now, what type of films would you like to see yourselves in moving forward into the future?

01:12:50Because I think that your goals of what you want are just that you just have so many different ones.

01:12:57Like, and there's so many different types of films that's going on right now with everybody.

01:13:04I'm just trying to get some light on the situation, though, so don't mind me working on it.

01:13:10I would be open to doing anything at this point in time except porn or anything, like, that involves any

01:13:16of that stuff.

01:13:17I would do, I'm open to doing horror.

01:13:20I'm open to doing comedy, action, some of these, you know, different film festivals as well.

01:13:27I've been asked to possibly do one in Portland, the 48-hour films.

01:13:31So it just depends, you know, I mean, it depends on the script and it depends on what role somebody

01:13:36wants me in.

01:13:37It's hard to say, like, what movie genre I want to.

01:13:40It all depends on the role and then where we're filming because I had somebody ask me if I would

01:13:47come to Europe.

01:13:47And I was like, hmm, I don't know with right now the way that they, you know, you can't really

01:13:53get sometimes you can't even get there because the planes are basically getting canceled.

01:13:58And with the TSA people not getting paid, you don't know if you're going to get, you know, you can

01:14:03get to one section.

01:14:05You don't know if you're going to get back, though, you know.

01:14:07So I would probably stay in the United States for right now, although I'm very open to going to other

01:14:15countries as well, just not right this minute.

01:14:17So I would say anything I'm open to, you know, someone would just have to contact me and tell me

01:14:24what the role is, where it's going to be filmed, and what genre it would be.

01:14:32So if you could travel anywhere in the world to film?

01:14:36Yeah, I've got a passport.

01:14:38Where would you like to go?

01:14:40If you could travel anywhere in the world?

01:14:42If you could travel, I would love to meet the Vikings, the people that were in the Vikings, Vikings, Valhalla.

01:14:49And a friend of mine was in every single season.

01:14:53So I would like to go to Ireland, and I have friends in Scotland.

01:14:58So I would love to go to Ireland, Scotland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

01:15:07Those are the countries that I really want to hit.

01:15:10And then the other ones I'll probably think of after this podcast.

01:15:14Oh, yeah, I wanted to go there, too.

01:15:17That's awesome.

01:15:18I would love to see Scotland.

01:15:20I would love to see Norway.

01:15:23My ancestors, that's where we come from, so I want to see that.

01:15:27I would like to go there, too, just to see what it's like.

01:15:31Well, the Norwegians and the Swedes, you know what I'm saying?

01:15:34There's that blue border.

01:15:36They just crawl over a little bit here and there, and then, so there's a lot of, but, but they

01:15:43changed the, they changed the world in Europe, for sure.

01:15:47Right.

01:15:48I mean, the best shipbuilders in the world.

01:15:50Even to this day, they still communicate, like, how amazing they were at their craft.

01:15:57Right.

01:15:58You know, it's going to be interesting, too, how it's portrayed, like, a friend of mine's on this new film

01:16:04or new series called Blood Axe, and it's going to come out soon.

01:16:07And it follows through with, like, the Vikings stuff, too.

01:16:11So I really loved the Vikings, and I love Michael Hurst's writing.

01:16:15I love what he did with those.

01:16:18I love how the actors went from one episode to where they all grew with each other, and by episode

01:16:26and by season, like, six or seven, you could see that they went from a child, literally, to, like, growing

01:16:33up to what they are now.

01:16:35It's like, oh, my gosh, boy, did you change.

01:16:36You know, we all do, right?

01:16:37But it's fascinating sometimes to see some of these actors go from, like, childhood to all of a sudden, you

01:16:44see them, and you're like, whoa, you're an adult now.

01:16:47They're six feet tall.

01:16:48They go from being, like, a four-foot-tall kid or maybe even short to, like, six feet tall.

01:16:53Like the kind of fanning that was in, I can't remember what that man on fire.

01:17:00It was man on fire.

01:17:01And then seeing her from that go to, like, Twilight, she's almost an adult.

01:17:06It's like, whoa.

01:17:08It's amazing to see that, the change.

01:17:12Right.

01:17:13Would you do a series like that?

01:17:15Would you ever be interested?

01:17:17In a heartbeat, I would.

01:17:20Yeah.

01:17:21I think that I could see you as a Viking, though.

01:17:24I would definitely be interested in doing series as well.

01:17:28Like, even if it was a miniseries or if it was filmed in a studio or, you know, I would

01:17:35like to do more.

01:17:36Of a variety.

01:17:38You know, I don't ever want to get stuck in one genre.

01:17:41So, I would love to figure out, like, you know, it just depends.

01:17:47Like I said, it depends on what people have out there for me, you know.

01:17:51And if the role is right, then I say yes.

01:17:55Sci-fi.

01:17:56Yes.

01:17:57I would definitely do a sci-fi.

01:17:59And I would do a space movie for sure.

01:18:01What about UFO, outer space, and, like, future?

01:18:06And aliens.

01:18:07I mean.

01:18:08Aliens.

01:18:08Would you do the makeup?

01:18:09Would you do the FX makeup?

01:18:10Oh, yeah.

01:18:12You would?

01:18:12I would.

01:18:14That's cool.

01:18:14So, I know a lot of actors that have blue in that.

01:18:17And they literally, like, they complain.

01:18:21They say how hot it is.

01:18:23But they have to say that.

01:18:24Well, because when you're getting it put on, you're there for, like, six hours sometimes.

01:18:28Oh, yeah.

01:18:29And they transform into somebody completely different.

01:18:32And some people, there's no way you'd recognize them.

01:18:35You're like, wait a minute.

01:18:36Was that you?

01:18:37Your face doesn't even look like you.

01:18:39I watched that TV show Face Off, and they would do that.

01:18:43Yeah.

01:18:44And they don't look.

01:18:45And you wouldn't even know what the person looks like.

01:18:48Right.

01:18:49Until they show you the before and after.

01:18:52So, I think that's really interesting.

01:18:54Now, what about, because, now, would you do some stunts?

01:18:59Because I know that you've been injured in your past.

01:19:02No.

01:19:02I've already told people that I won't do stunts.

01:19:05If they need somebody running or they need somebody getting, like, thrown over a car,

01:19:13they could do a stunt double.

01:19:14But I'm never going to do that because it puts my body at risk.

01:19:18And at this point, like, I, unfortunately, am at a space and time where my bones break really fast.

01:19:26You know, walking in the canyon, I, you know, broke bones.

01:19:29So, it just depends.

01:19:31And that's why I would not do any stunts.

01:19:33And I wouldn't want to put myself in that position.

01:19:35And I never want to ever think that I'm going to be bed bound again because it's scary to me.

01:19:41And being in a wheelchair for almost that long, I, you know, there's plenty of ways that they, there, with

01:19:49all this new AI,

01:19:50they can put AI in there and segue it that way.

01:19:55Oh, they can, too.

01:19:56Yeah.

01:19:57I never realized what they could do with AI until a friend of mine showed me what they could do.

01:20:01People are making songs with AI and it's not even their voice.

01:20:04I'm like, whoa, that's cool.

01:20:06You know, make it up worse and sticking it in there and all of a sudden some voice comes out

01:20:10with, like, drums and bass and they have a whole band.

01:20:15It sounds like the one.

01:20:15You know it's not their voice.

01:20:18It sounds.

01:20:18Sometimes, but you can actually put your voice in.

01:20:20And they have a new program now where you put your voice in and it filtrates and then it has

01:20:26other people's voices.

01:20:27So, you're almost like in a band.

01:20:29It has definitely transitioned.

01:20:32It is.

01:20:33And it's crazy because you don't, now with the AI, you don't know what's real.

01:20:36What you're looking at.

01:20:38I mean, I've been watching videos and I'm just, like, looking and you can see sometimes where it's an AI

01:20:45where there'll be a glitch.

01:20:47Or you'll see the hand go through the sword or the hand go through the shield and you're like, oh,

01:20:52okay, shoo, I'm not seeing things.

01:20:55Yeah.

01:20:56Then there's others where, like, a friend of mine just literally, he was in Scotland and he lives in Scotland

01:21:01and he's like, Mindy, you know, I put this thing together for you.

01:21:04And I was like, yeah, let me see what it is.

01:21:05And it was literally a Viking woman, which is, you know, he put me and a Viking man coming together

01:21:11and literally were kissing and embracing in the scene.

01:21:14And I'm like, whoa, that looks a little too real.

01:21:19That's scary.

01:21:20And then another thing, you could see, like, my hand going through a sword.

01:21:24You're like, oh, okay, well, you obviously can't do that one.

01:21:26Or going through a shield when you're up through the, you know, pausing moments.

01:21:31But they're getting better at even those glitches.

01:21:33So people may let them know what's real and what's not.

01:21:37You know, that's why the people and the actors, they were getting nervous because they were like, well, they can

01:21:43use my likeness and say that I did something.

01:21:46And they're absolutely right.

01:21:47If they can just put them in a different animation or whatever they want, and all of a sudden they're

01:21:51doing something they never did.

01:21:53That's true.

01:21:54Not just that, but, like, you could frame somebody, like, completely frame them, make them think that they're with somebody

01:22:02else and they're not.

01:22:03Right.

01:22:04Because they can look like they're doing one thing and they're not.

01:22:08Like, scary.

01:22:09Yeah, it's scary.

01:22:11It's scary.

01:22:12I ain't scary.

01:22:13I always thought it would be, but I was more worried about robots.

01:22:18I was worried about the robots.

01:22:19You know what I'm saying?

01:22:20I'm not so much worried about the robots.

01:22:22I'm worried about radiation and how they're basically getting into the radiation parts to where they can kill you with

01:22:29that radiation in 5G.

01:22:31And people were talking about it yesterday.

01:22:34And there's new warfare being that they're using high radiation to actually make it so that we're so bad.

01:22:44And that's how cancer develops, too.

01:22:47So I don't find it different that now all of a sudden we're getting all these cancers.

01:22:54And even dogs, my friend's dog just ended up getting cancer.

01:22:58So it's like all of these things that's like, what is in our water such that our dogs are getting

01:23:03cancer or they're getting ill now, too?

01:23:06So the veterinarian people make money.

01:23:10Doctors are making money.

01:23:12I mean, it's just, unfortunately, it is Big Pharma.

01:23:15It is about the money.

01:23:17It really is because I was, when I had my puppies, I wanted to buy the best food for them.

01:23:23Because I wanted them to get the best start.

01:23:25So, of course, I was doing a little research.

01:23:29I was doing a little research.

01:23:30And what I found was there was dog food that actually can kill a dog.

01:23:35Yeah, you can only see from your nose down.

01:23:38You might want to tilt your camera up because you can only see, like, from your nose down.

01:23:46I got her.

01:23:47She's good here.

01:23:48Okay.

01:23:49I'm sorry.

01:23:50I'm sorry.

01:23:51I'm running out of light.

01:23:53I'm trying.

01:23:54My lamp won't work, guys.

01:23:55I'll have it fixed next time for sure, though.

01:23:58But, yeah.

01:23:59Well, that might be the great time to stop.

01:24:01I'm sitting in the window.

01:24:03I'm trying to sit in the window.

01:24:05My phone won't.

01:24:06So, thank you for the opportunity.

01:24:08This has been a great segue to probably let's stop for now.

01:24:14And then we can kind of regroup and catch up on another time.

01:24:18I'd love that.

01:24:20Yeah.

01:24:20Mindy, I appreciate it.

01:24:22Thank you so much.

01:24:23And all this wonderful information about the military has opened my eyes.

01:24:28And I hope it's opened a lot of other eyes.

01:24:30Sure.

01:24:31Let me show you this one more time.

01:24:32It's ResilientWarrior on Amazon.com, Barnes & Noble, or Walmart.

01:24:37And then this as well is called A Dragon's Voice.

01:24:40And that's on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or Walmart.com.

01:24:45I love it.

01:24:46Can you type that in the chat and I'll copy and paste that over into the other chats?

01:24:51Oh, sure.

01:24:54Well, thank you, Mindy.

01:24:56Thank you so much.

01:24:58So much fun catching up with you.

01:25:00Yeah, this has been great.

01:25:02And how do we get a hold of you, Mindy, if anybody out there wants to get a hold of

01:25:06you?

01:25:08So I am on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and LinkedIn.

01:25:16My name is Mindy Doherty, M-I-N-D-Y, D-O-U-G-H-E-R-T-Y.

01:25:21And in Instagram, it's W-T-R-G-P-S-Y, which is Water Gypsy, basically, without the vowels.

01:25:30So W-T-R-G-P-S-Y.

01:25:33Everywhere else, it's Mindy Doherty.

01:25:35And the face remains the same.

01:25:38So if you don't see the same face, it's not me.

01:25:41That's right.

01:25:42That's good.

01:25:43And then I'm not sure how to share the links, but maybe you can message me and I'll do that

01:25:49for you.

01:25:49Yeah, we'll get that out later.

01:25:52Okay.

01:25:54Awesome.

01:25:54Thank you guys again for your time.

01:25:55I appreciate it all.

01:25:58You're awesome.

01:26:01Okay, so you can hang up, hon, when you're ready.

01:26:05How do I?

01:26:05I was trying to figure out how to get those links.

01:26:08A little red button.

01:26:11Mark, we'll make sure you get the links.

01:26:13Yeah.

01:26:14I'll make sure you get everything.

01:26:16Yep.

01:26:17Yep.

01:26:18All right.

01:26:19Thanks, you guys.

01:26:19I ended the recording from that part.

01:26:22If you want to just stick around for a little bit and just chit-chat about anything else, that's up

01:26:27to you.

01:26:29She wants to get going.

01:26:31All right.

01:26:31But that's okay.

01:26:33That's okay.

01:26:33Mindy, I'll give your information out to other hosts as well.

01:26:40Okay.

01:26:41If you'd like to get in on some of the other shows.

01:26:46Yeah, get that book out there.

01:26:48Get that book out there.

01:26:49Because I think that book is going to be so instrumental to children.

01:26:54Mindy, I think your book is going to help so many people.

01:26:57I hope so.

01:26:59I'm just wanting to get it into as many places as I possibly can.

01:27:04All right.

01:27:05Thanks, you guys.

01:27:05Have a good day.

01:27:06All right.

01:27:07Bye, Mindy.

01:27:08Bye, Mindy.

01:27:10Bye, Mindy.

01:27:11Bye, Mindy.

01:27:23Bye, Mindy.

01:27:27Bye, Mindy.

01:27:28Bye, Mindy.

01:27:30Bye, Mindy.

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