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00:35It has been a busy week. Chile got a new far-right president and Trump endorses Jake Paul, even though
00:41he's not running for office.
00:43But we're going to start with Iran. It's been two weeks since we launched strikes there and it's still unclear
00:47how long this is going to continue.
00:48On Monday, Trump claimed the war was very complete before adding pretty much.
00:53And that qualifier turned out to be important.
00:56Mr. President, you've said the war is, quote, very complete, but your defense secretary says this is just the beginning.
01:02So which is it and how long should Americans be prepared for this borderline?
01:05Well, they're both. The beginning, it's the beginning of building a new country.
01:09We could call it a tremendous success right now as we leave here, I could call it, or we could
01:14go further, and we're going to go further.
01:17That's not a great response there.
01:19That noncommittal floundering makes him sound less like a president laying out a strategy,
01:23more like what happens when you ask your situationship if you should put him down as your plus one to
01:27a wedding in six months.
01:28I don't know. We could go further. I could call it, but we're going to go further, right?
01:35At every point, the president seemed utterly disconnected from the stakes of this war,
01:40right down to greeting the remains of fallen American troops while wearing his most formal baseball cap.
01:45He's also been conveniently confused about civilian casualties.
01:49Take the horrifying strike on an elementary school that killed at least 175 people, most of them children.
01:54Observers quickly came to believe that the U.S. was responsible, including, it now seems, our own military.
02:00Yet, Trump's repeatedly played dumb whenever asked about it.
02:04A tomahawk missile likely destroyed that Iranian girl's school.
02:09So, will the Americans, will the U.S. accept any responsibility for that strike?
02:12Well, I haven't seen it, and I will say that the tomahawk, which is one of the most powerful weapons
02:18around,
02:18is used by, you know, is sold and used by other countries, you know that.
02:23And whether it's Iran, who also has some tomahawks, they wish they had more.
02:29But whether it's Iran or somebody else, the fact that a tomahawk, a tomahawk is very generic.
02:34You just suggested that Iran somehow got its hands on a tomahawk and bombed its own elementary school on the
02:39first day of the war.
02:40But you're the only person in your government saying this.
02:42Even your defense secretary wouldn't say that when he was asked, standing over your shoulder, on your plane on Saturday.
02:47Why are you the only person saying this?
02:49Because I just don't know enough about it.
02:51Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it?
02:53What's he really supposed to do?
02:55Ask the people who work for him?
02:57Listen to the daily briefings he gets?
02:59Of course not.
02:59It is hard to say whether Trump is being actively deceptive there or just playing dumb.
03:04In his words, I think you could say both.
03:07Meanwhile, the conflict continues to spread throughout the region,
03:09with Israel now bombing Lebanon, killing nearly 800 so far and displacing over 800,000.
03:14And Iran's effectively closed the Strait of Hormuz, through which about 20% of the world's oil usually transits.
03:20At least 16 ships have been attacked there since the war began, sending oil prices soaring.
03:25Now, polls have consistently shown the majority of America is against this conflict.
03:30And that may be why the White House is selling it hard.
03:33Tweeting multiple gross video showing footage of bombs exploding,
03:36intercut with things like baseball players hitting a ball, captioned pure American dominance,
03:41and football hits, in a post confusingly titled, Touchdown.
03:45And if you think, well, that is all in terrible taste,
03:48but at least they didn't set missile strikes to nearly here comes the boom.
03:52I have some terrible news for you.
04:02So cool, bro.
04:05I always wanted a government that made war propaganda like 8th grade boys making a lacrosse team hype video.
04:11And look, with this White House, that's kind of to be expected.
04:15What's surprising is, Iran's been trolling in return.
04:18State-aligned media there even shared an AI Lego video that opened with a scene making it clear
04:23they think Trump started this war as a distraction.
04:37Look, I think I get Iran's point there.
04:40This war is just a smokescreen to distract from Trump's friendship with notorious sex criminal Ulrey Epstein.
04:47And by the way, who is it with Epstein in the corner there?
04:50Is that Dick Van Dyke?
04:52Dick, no, not you!
04:54That video also features the straight-off halboos being closed and businessmen crying about oil prices spiking,
05:01as well as a Lego depiction of the aftermath of the school bombing, which is surreal.
05:06It is odd for a human rights atrocity to be rendered in Lego.
05:10But I guess that's where we are with this conflict, especially given the White House continues to churn out shitposts
05:17like this one.
05:28Here comes the heat from the USA.
05:30And it's burbled up and down. What a strike.
05:34And they've got it.
05:36Who do you think you are, I am?
05:45OK, look, this isn't the point.
05:47The point should be that everyone in this White House clearly needs parental controls on screen time.
05:52But also, you send a ball right down the middle like that, you're going to get a split.
05:57You've got to come in at a slight angle, otherwise there's no way you're going ten for ten.
06:00Again, I don't do much bowling myself, too whimsical. I'm more of a frown-and-play chess man.
06:04But even I know, that's not a ball that's going to give you what you want.
06:08Now, one reason the White House might be doing all this is to distract from negative press coverage.
06:13CNN, for instance, published this article about the failure to plan for the closure of the Strait of Hormuz.
06:18And on Friday morning, Pete Hegseth addressed that directly.
06:21From CNN.
06:24Reports that the Trump administration underestimated the Iran war's impact on the Strait of Hormuz.
06:30Patently ridiculous, of course.
06:33For decades, Iran has threatened shipping in the Strait of Hormuz.
06:36This is always what they do, hold the Strait hostage.
06:40CNN doesn't think we thought of that.
06:43It's a fundamentally unserious report.
06:46The sooner David Ellison takes over that network, the better.
06:51Wow! That is not good.
06:54I can't wait until the billionaire sympathetic to this administration takes over the news.
06:58Isn't it like your mom saying, when you were conceived, your dad came harder than ever before.
07:03He jizzed like a geyser.
07:05Even if you thought that was the case, your ability to make it through the day
07:10really depends on never hearing those words.
07:14But that wasn't all.
07:16Unhappy of the coverage this war has gotten, Hegseth decided to offer the press some helpful tips.
07:21Allow me to make a few suggestions.
07:24People look up at the TV and they see banners.
07:27They see headlines.
07:28Mid-East war intensifies, splashing on the screen the last couple of days, alongside visuals of
07:34civilian or energy targets that Iran has hit, because that's what they do.
07:39What should the banner read instead?
07:42How about Iran increasingly desperate?
07:45Another example of a fake headline that I saw yesterday.
07:49War widening.
07:51Here's a real headline for you, for an actual patriotic press.
07:55How about Iran shrinking, going underground?
07:59Okay, so even if his version of events were true there, which it's not, that is a terrible headline.
08:05Iran shrinking, going underground?
08:08What does that even mean?
08:10A headline is supposed to give you a clear idea of a story in a few words.
08:13Because that makes it seem like Iran is literally getting smaller and sinking like some kind of Middle Eastern Atlantis.
08:20And look, I get why Hegseth is trying to force feed headlines to the press, and why the White House
08:24is pumping out fun bowling animations.
08:26Though I will point out, in bowling, no matter how many times you knock those pins down, they do return
08:31to their original positions.
08:33Which feels pretty on the nose here.
08:35Look, clearly, no one behind this war wants to deal with how complicated it's turned out to be.
08:40Trump is saying that it'll be over when I feel it in my bones, whatever the fuck that means.
08:47And that's a pretty thoughtless way to approach a conflict that's already killed so many.
08:52It's not just disrespectful to the Iranian people and to US service members affected.
08:56It's disrespectful to the rest of us to assume childish memes and sugarcoated headlines
09:01will change what we can all see with our own eyes.
09:04Because at this point, we don't deserve deflections.
09:07We deserve explanations, accountability, and if it is not too much trouble,
09:11the full release of the Ulrich Epstein files.
09:15And now, this.
09:18And now, Jen Kramer went to Harvard.
09:22When I took my senior thesis at Harvard and used some mindless name dropping,
09:25then I consider myself an average American who took three years of economics at Harvard.
09:29I'm a proud supporter of Harvard.
09:32For law school, I went to Harvard.
09:33It's been a long time since I studied antitrust at Harvard Law.
09:35I was the greatest antitrust scholar of all time.
09:37But I got to Harvard.
09:39We had every single Nobel.
09:40I took three years of economics at Harvard.
09:42That's why I went to Harvard and Harvard Law.
09:44To get stupid!
09:46Now, I didn't go to Harvard Law School for nothing.
09:49I actually did well at Harvard.
09:50I mean, look, I went to Harvard.
09:51I mean, I went to Harvard.
09:52I took seven courses on communism at Harvard.
09:54Here's something I learned when I went to economics at Harvard.
09:57I went to Harvard class at Harvard.
09:58I took that stupid corporate law course at Harvard and got an A.
10:01I actually had the highest grade on my generals in my major at Harvard.
10:04You know, when I was at, when I was at Harvard, hey, hey, he dropped out.
10:07Had to mention Harvard because I'm a jerk.
10:12Moving on.
10:13A main story tonight concerns J.D. Vance.
10:16Sworn in at just 40 years old, he's our first millennial vice president.
10:20So we can confidently say he's the first VP to have definitely jacked it to Space Jam.
10:26I know to some, Vance might appear to be just another abrasive MAGA arsehole with a load-bearing beard.
10:31But to many on the right, he's a towering intellect.
10:34The president of the Heritage Foundation said Vance is going to be one of the leaders,
10:38if not the leader of our movement.
10:40And Tucker Carlson once called him the smartest and deepest senator he's ever met.
10:43Which is kind of like Ryan Lochte calling Cookie Monster his go-to guy for investment advice.
10:49I don't trust any of the individuals involved to be reliable judges of any of the subjects involved.
10:55And his rise to become Trump's right-hand man is especially striking, given as recently as 2016,
11:00he was casting himself as a never-Trump Republican, saying he might write in his dog for president.
11:05Or if Trump had a really good chance of winning, hold his nose and vote for Hillary Clinton.
11:09Privately, he even mused that Trump could become America's Hitler.
11:13And yet, just a few years later, he was campaigning for Senate alongside Trump,
11:18and adopting a very different tone, something that did not go unnoticed.
11:23You know what? He's a guy that said some bad shit about me.
11:28Come on up, JD.
11:29The president is right. I wasn't always nice.
11:32But the simple fact is, he's the best president of my lifetime,
11:36and he revealed the corruption in this country like nobody else.
11:40I mean, I guess that is true.
11:43Donald Trump definitely revealed corruption in this country like nobody else.
11:47In the same way, no one told us more about what a Ponzi scheme is than Bernie Madoff.
11:52It's true, just not in the way I think you're implying.
11:56And Vance has turned out to be perfect for Trump, as in many ways, he's become like a son
12:01Trump doesn't even have to pretend to love.
12:03And as VP, he has served dutifully, often receding into the background, but willing to be an attack
12:09dog when needed, like when he demanded Zelensky say thank you to Trump in the Oval Office.
12:14He's also relentlessly defended his boss's moves, even when they directly contradict
12:18his prior beliefs, like his anti-interventionist approach to foreign policy.
12:22When people criticized last year's U.S. strikes in the waters of Venezuela,
12:27calling them a war crime, he replied on Twitter,
12:29I don't give a shit what you call it.
12:31And when Trump decided to first strike Iran last year, Vance defended him and didn't even try
12:36to come up with a good rationalization.
12:38I certainly empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign
12:44entanglements in the Middle East. I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then,
12:50we had dumb presidents, and now we have a president who actually knows how to accomplish
12:54America's national security objectives.
12:56Yeah, it wasn't okay before, because the presidents were stupid heads who ate dumb for breakfast,
13:01but now we have a big, strong real estate developer and steak salesman to give us the
13:06national security expertise we so badly need, so it's completely fine.
13:09And look, obviously, some of that's just part of being vice president.
13:14You have to roll over for your boss, but it's worth remembering,
13:17Vance has an inside track to the Oval Office in the future,
13:20not only because polls show him leading the Republican field for 2028,
13:24but also because if this guy doesn't make it through his term either,
13:27because the 25th Amendment got invoked, or his internal organs decided,
13:31you know what, dude, you can't keep doing this to us, we're out,
13:35JD Vance will become president.
13:37So before things reach that point, it feels like tonight,
13:40it may be worth looking at JD Vance, what he stands for,
13:43and who he might be without Donald Trump.
13:46And I'll skip over his early life, because it's been well chronicled in his best-selling memoir,
13:50Hillbilly Elegy, voted 2016's number one Christmas gift by,
13:54oh, fuck, emergency airport purchases magazine.
13:57If you haven't read it, long story short, he was raised in Ohio by a mother who battled an
14:02opioid addiction and his loudmouth grandmother before a stint in the military in Iraq,
14:05and attending Yale Law School. If you want to know more, you can read the book,
14:09or just watch the movie adaptation featuring this scene, where his grandmother
14:12catches Vance smoking weed and decides to raise him herself.
14:16Oh, I don't give a rat fart what you're smoking, kid.
14:20If you think you're hiding it, honey, you're dumb as a bag of hair.
14:24Pack up.
14:24For what?
14:25What are you doing?
14:27I'm taking him.
14:29Where?
14:30To live with me.
14:31And if you've got a problem with that, you can talk to the barrel of my gun.
14:35Listen, listen, listen. This is a pro-Glen Close show.
14:42Always has been, always will be. That being said,
14:45no, I do not like what I'm seeing there. The only good thing, and I mean the only good thing,
14:50that came out of that film, is the fact that when Glenn Close was nominated for Best Supporting
14:54Actress and attended the Academy Awards, she was approached by Lil Rel for a music trivia game,
14:59and this happened.
15:00Do you know how to do the butt?
15:01Quick, turn up.
15:03Come on, let's see it. Let me see a do the butt. Let's see it.
15:06Oh!
15:07Oh!
15:11Yeah, that was eight-time Oscar nominee Glenn Close doing da butt on camera.
15:16So, Hillbilly Elegy was a terrible film, but let's not say it didn't give us anything.
15:21Anyway, Vance's book hit stores during Trump's first run for the White House,
15:25making him a hot commodity for news shows looking for someone to explain the grievances
15:29of the white working class. And at the time, he struck what seemed to be a fairly moderate tone.
15:34I think that this election is really having a negative effect, especially on the white working
15:39class, right? Because I think a lot of these grievances are legitimate, but what it's doing
15:43is it's giving people an excuse to point the finger at someone else. It's point the finger at
15:47Mexican immigrants, or Chinese trade, or the Democratic elites, or whatever else. And sometimes
15:53these villains are legitimate. I think it's totally fair to say that the policy elites of the Democratic
15:58Party haven't been totally concerned about the white working class. But at the same time,
16:03fundamentally, what's going on and what Donald Trump has done is change the focus of the white
16:08working class from a sort of engaged and constructive politics to a politics of pointing the finger.
16:14So, watching that now feels weird for a number of reasons. First, I never thought I'd long for
16:20JD Vance's beard, but it turns out the thing none of us needed from him was more face. Without a
16:26beard,
16:27he looks like Radio Shack's assistant store manager of the year in 1998. He looks like he played
16:32Cartman in a live action South Park movie. But also, it is strange to see such a nuanced tone
16:38from a guy who's since become such a troll. It'd be like finding old videos of your dog eating with
16:44a
16:44fork and a knife. What the fuck? Yesterday, I watched you take a shit and then eat it mouth first.
16:51How on earth did we get from this to that? And while that may sound like a fairly even-handed
16:58critique, since then, Vance has clearly picked a side between blaming the elites of the Democratic
17:04Party and finger-pointing Republicans. And some of that may have to do with his mentor, Peter Thiel,
17:09the co-founder of PayPal and Palantir, and a man who looks like he got stuck trying to animorph
17:14between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Vance has said of Thiel that if there's something
17:20interesting going on, and I want to bounce ideas off of a very fascinating and knowledgeable person,
17:25I'll give him a call, which is worrying given Thiel holds some troubling views. In 2009, he wrote that
17:31he no longer believed that freedom and democracy were compatible, and more recently called the
17:35quest for diversity very evil, as well as giving multiple lectures around the idea that critics
17:40of technology or AI are legionnaires of the Antichrist. Thiel is a huge influence on Vance,
17:47who's attributed pretty much his entire career to Thiel's mentorship. They met when Thiel spoke at
17:52Yale when Vance was a student, and Thiel later wound up hiring him and eventually investing in his
17:57venture capital firm. He then backed Vance's 2022 Senate campaign with, at that point,
18:01the largest amount given to a single candidate in congressional history. That campaign,
18:07by the way, gave us this political ad with a truly iconic opening line, written by Vance himself,
18:14that somehow gets worse from there.
18:16Are you a racist? Do you hate Mexicans?
18:20The media calls us racist for wanting to build Trump's wall. They censor us, but it doesn't change
18:25the truth. Joe Biden's open border is killing Ohioans, with more illegal drugs and more Democrat
18:31voters pouring into this country. This issue is personal. I nearly lost my mother to the poison
18:36coming across our border. No child should grow up an orphan. I'm JD Vance, and I approve this message
18:42because whatever they call us, we will put America first. That whole ad has a terrible vibe,
18:49and I don't think anything could fix it. Not even the fact that you could sing the beginning
18:52to the opening of Bohemian Rhapsody, and it scans perfectly.
18:56Are you a racist? Do you hate Mexicans?
19:02Two questions, by the way. He never ends up answering there. It was during that campaign
19:07that Vance made that appearance with Trump that you saw earlier, and I wish I could tell you
19:11what happened to him between 2016 and that moment. But sadly, I am not a mind reader
19:16or the therapist he so desperately needs. Vance will claim it's because he believed Trump turned
19:22out to be a great president in his first term. Others might say he's a power-hungry ladder climber
19:26who saw that the MAGA right was the only way up. But I'd argue his shift was both opportunistic
19:32and genuine. Because Vance has seemed to have journeyed farther and farther into some
19:37pretty far-right thought. Chris Rufo, the conservative activist, has jokingly described
19:41Vance's evolution is taking him from the pages of National Review to the fever swamp of right-wing
19:46Twitter. And Vance himself has said he's plugged into a lot of weird right-wing subcultures,
19:51which isn't something you want to hear from your Tinder date, let alone the fucking vice president.
19:57In fact, in many ways, he's become the archetype of the hyper-online conservative
20:01troll, right down to the whole kidding, not kidding, trigger the libs schtick.
20:05Just watch him brag about doing exactly that at an event a few years ago.
20:09I got myself into a little hot water last week because I made what seemed to me a plainly obvious
20:17observation that Alex Jones, the Infowars guy, is a better source of information than Rachel Maddow,
20:23the MSNBC gal. Now, some people said, well, J.D., you're just trolling. Well, yeah,
20:29of course I was just trolling. But that doesn't mean what I said is in any way untrue.
20:34Okay, so with all due respect, which to be perfectly clear is none, saying that Alex a
20:42billion dollars in defamation damages Jones is a better source of information than Rachel Maddow
20:47is just laughable. The man's entire brand was called Infowars. Also, calling Rachel Maddow the MSNBC
20:54gal is off base for so many reasons, including that she does not remotely give off the breezy
20:58energy that you associate with that word. Julia Roberts, that's a gal. Reese Witherspoon,
21:04definitely a gal. Paul Rudd, such a gal. Rachel Maddow, though, not so much.
21:11And Vance went on to expand on what he meant by that. Ladies and gentlemen, the most important
21:17truths often come from people who are crazy 60% of the time, but they're right 40% of the
21:23time.
21:24I'm very close friends with Peter Thiel. I think Peter Thiel is one of the most important sources
21:27of non-conventional truth in our society. Peter Thiel believes some things that are considered crazy
21:33by opinion makers. We have to get away from this weird tension that we feel in our chest when somebody
21:40says, this person believes something crazy, therefore you must announce them. Believing
21:45crazy things is not the mark of whether somebody should be rejected. Believing important truths
21:51should be the mark of whether we accept somebody, and if they believe some crazy things on the side,
21:56that's fine. We need to be okay with non-conventional people.
22:00Okay, so here's the thing. We generally are okay with non-conventional people. I'd argue some of
22:06our best people are non-conventional. Cyndi Lauper, Lady Gaga, Barbara Streisand. She cloned her dog
22:12and has a tiny mall in the basement of her house. But if Babs came out and said Sandy Hook
22:17was staged,
22:19you'd be justified in retiring your DVD copy of Yentl. And look, in some ways that is a very
22:25convenient argument for hanging out with odious people. Relax. I don't agree with everything
22:30they say, just the important truths. But it's worth knowing just how closely aligned Vance is
22:35with some pretty extreme thinkers. He's close friends with the conservative writer Rod Dreher,
22:39who said, among other things, that LGBT activism is the tip of the spear at our throats in the
22:44culture war. Vance also wrote a glowing blurb for a book co-written by the far-right activist
22:49Jack Posobiec, who promoted the Pizzagate hoax, a book by the way called Unhumans, a term that it
22:55uses for people on the left who it says undo civilization itself. He's also expressed admiration
23:01for Curtis Yavin, a self-proclaimed neo-reactionary, who's not only said things like, we should put the
23:06church blacks in charge of the ghetto blacks. He's also argued for a policy he called rage, retire all
23:12government employees to seize and consolidate power. That thought clearly made its way into Vance's
23:18head and then straight back out of his mouth during this interview. There's this guy, Curtis
23:23Yavin, who's written about some of these things. I think that what Trump should do, like if I was
23:29giving him one piece of advice, fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the
23:35administrative state, replace them with our people. And when the courts, because you will get taken to
23:40court and when the courts stop you, stand before the country like Andrew Jackson did and say the
23:45chief justice has made his ruling, now let him enforce it. Yeah, not ideal. And while many
23:49people do erroneously think Andrew Jackson said that as part of the run-up, incidentally,
23:54to the Trail of Tears, there's no evidence that he did. And if we're gonna completely make up
23:59Andrew Jackson quotes, how about this one? The chief justice has made his ruling,
24:04now let him enforce it. Also, I really hope in the future my fans are cool.
24:07If my historical legacy is two fish-lipped weirdbeards bro-ing out
24:11about me on a podcast, do me a favor, dig me up and kill me again.
24:16And it's worth noting that in Vance's vast amount of time online, he's ended up
24:21promoting some flagrantly racist bullshit. It tends to get forgotten, but Trump's whole
24:26they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats meltdown in the presidential debate came
24:30after Vance elevated a false rumor that Haitian immigrants in Springfield,
24:34Ohio were eating people's pets. And after it all blew up and it became clear that the whole thing
24:39was total nonsense, Vance doubled down in a pretty revealing way.
24:45When you have a lot of people saying, my pets are being abducted, or geese at the city pond are
24:50being abducted and slaughtered right in front of us, this is crazy stuff. And again, whether those
24:56exact rumors turn out to be mostly true, somewhat true, whatever the case may be, Caitlin,
25:02this town has been ravaged by 20,000 migrants coming in, healthcare costs are up, housing costs
25:09are up, communicable diseases like HIV and TB have skyrocketed in this small Ohio town.
25:15This is what Kamala Harris's border policies have done. And I think it's interesting, Caitlin,
25:19that the media didn't care about the carnage wrought by these policies until we turned it into a meme
25:26about cats. Okay, first, just a quick shout out to this look on Caitlin Collins' face.
25:33Because our eyes are saying what we are all thinking there, which is, is this guy for
25:38fucking real right now? Second, you didn't turn it into a meme about cats, you shared misinformation
25:43that turned a whole town upside down. And it wasn't even the fun kind of misinformation,
25:48like when that same summer, everyone got convinced J.D. Vance had fucked a couch,
25:52a theory that went so viral, it led to us calling Vance's team and asking,
25:57has the senator ever had sex with a couch? To which, by the way, they hung up on us.
26:02We then emailed them the same question, as well as asking, what about sex with a latex glove,
26:07stuffed between two couch cushions? Has Senator Vance ever had sex with any other
26:11furniture or household items? And anything else you'd like to add at this time?
26:14And they still haven't responded to us, which isn't exactly a resounding no, is it?
26:20And it's not like it is hard to deny that you've fucked a couch. In fact,
26:23if you email hasjohnoliverfuckedacouch at hasjohnoliverfuckedacouch.com and ask
26:28if I have fucked one, I promise you'll be emailed right back with an answer of no way.
26:34Anyway, that exchange is basically J.D. Vance in a nutshell. He told a racist lie he found on social
26:41media,
26:41double down, then tried to play the you elites don't get it card to huff his way out of the
26:46whole thing.
26:47And at this point, it's probably worth talking about where J.D. Vance's political evolution
26:51has taken him, because it's pretty grim. On immigration, he's argued that while he bears
26:56no personal animus toward immigrants, they're the cause of many problems Americans face.
27:00He's claimed we're bankrupting a lot of hospitals by forcing them to provide care for people
27:04who don't have the legal right to be in our country. And he said that illegal aliens competing
27:08with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most significant drivers of home prices in the
27:13country. Two assertions, by the way, that have been soundly rejected by experts. And when he's
27:18talking about immigrants to conservative audiences, the mask can slip all the way off.
27:24There is a logic to what the Democrats are trying to do. It's disgusting,
27:28but there's a logic to it. They want illegal aliens to steal everybody's job,
27:31and now they want illegal aliens to steal everybody's vote. It is totally reasonable
27:35and acceptable for American citizens to look at their next door neighbors and say,
27:40I want to live next to people who I have something in common with. I don't want to
27:45live next to four families of strangers. Look, the thing on immigration is that
27:52no one can avoid that it has made our societies poorer, less safe, less prosperous, and less advanced.
28:00Okay, that is just route one bigotry. Also, it's a bit of a tell to say that you want
28:05to be able to look at your neighbors and have something in common with them. That only really
28:10means one thing. And for what it's worth here, I don't think most people's biggest priority in
28:15neighbors is having something in common with them. It's just hoping and praying that they don't have
28:19a creepy trampoline kid who stares in your windows all day. Can you...
28:25Can you please... Can you at least... Can you... Can you just bounce the other way?
28:31Can you do another way bounce?
28:36But remarks like those are part of a pattern of Vance expressing anxiety that immigrants could
28:42replace Americans. With lines like, you can't have so many people coming to the country at a time
28:47when our own families aren't replicating themselves. And that gets to another of his major obsessions,
28:52which is Americans having more children. To hear him tell it, it's an existential crisis.
28:57He's complained about the childless left and said the rejection of the American family is perhaps
29:02the most pernicious and evil thing the left has done, which is both untrue and just ridiculous.
29:06The most evil thing the left has ever done would be hands down these fucking candles.
29:13But this is a big deal to Vance. Over the years, he's repeatedly focused on prominent Democrats who
29:19didn't at that point have kids, among them AOC and Pete Buttigieg, to draw some sweeping conclusions.
29:25There are just these basic cadences of life that I think are really powerful and really,
29:31really valuable when you have kids in your life. And the fact that so many people, especially
29:36in America's leadership class, just don't have that in their lives, you know, I worry that it makes
29:41people more sociopathic and ultimately our whole country a little bit less, uh, less mentally stable.
29:48Wow. Having kids makes you mentally stable is something only someone who is not the default
29:57parents would say. Because try working a full-time job. Always tracking when the diapers are about to
30:02run out, what size shoes your kids wear, what they won't eat for lunch at daycare, which toys their
30:06favorite, when the doctor's appointments are, when picture day is, which songs you have to sing to
30:09get them to sleep, how many child birthday parties you have to attend this weekend, and which ones
30:13specifically requested gifts. And also, if you leave the room, your child will scream bloody murder,
30:18because you're the only one they want. I'm not saying kids can't give you a lot of things like joy,
30:23purpose, and hand, foot, and mouth disease, but mental stability is not one of them.
30:30And when pressed on those remarks a few years later, Vance's answer wasn't great.
30:36Your position on those family values have gotten a lot of scrutiny lately.
30:40Sure.
30:42You've talked about childless cat ladies. You've called childless people sociopathic,
30:48psychotic, deranged. And I know that you've said that those comments were sarcastic,
30:54but it's hard to hear those words entirely as a joke. What do you actually think of childless women
31:01in society? Well, as I said when I made those comments, and look, they were dumb comments.
31:07I certainly, you know, I think most people probably who've watched this have said something
31:12dumb, have said something that they wish they had put differently.
31:16And you said it over several, in several different venues.
31:19A very, very short period of time.
31:21Oh, well, you heard it here first, folks. If you're mean, dumb, and wrong, but in rapid succession,
31:28it's actually fine. And as for everyone says dumb stuff, not like that they don't.
31:35The normal dumb stuff people regret is usually things like,
31:38Armie Hammer is the next De Niro, or sure, I'll have a third gordita crunch, but not
31:43childless women are sociopaths. And if Vance really does want to make it easier for people
31:49to raise kids, there are things he could support. But he hasn't done that. And some,
31:54he's actively opposed. For instance, he's railed against universal daycare policies,
31:58calling it a class war against normal people, and that normal Americans want a family policy
32:03that doesn't shunt their kids into crap daycare. And one of his solutions for high daycare costs
32:08was pretty infuriating.
32:10One of the ways that you might be able to relieve a little bit of pressure on people who are
32:14paying
32:14so much for daycare is make it so that, you know, maybe like grandma or grandpa wants to help out
32:20a
32:20bit more. Or maybe there's an aunt or uncle that wants to help out a little bit more. If that
32:24happens, you relieve some of the pressure on all the resources that were spent in a daycare.
32:28Holy shit, that is brilliant. Have family help. How did no one think of this? Just call the
32:36grandparents who are definitely close by and alive. Or maybe an aunt and uncle who don't have jobs or
32:41children of their own to deal with. We can now close every daycare in the country because America's
32:45most eyelined boy genius just cracked the fucking code here. Pack a bunch of family members into your
32:52house to help out. Not too many, though, or J.D. Vars will get nervous if he lives next door.
32:57And while he has gestured vaguely toward federal money to incentivize family to help out, I'll point out that
33:05hasn't happened. In fact, the only concrete action he took during his two years in the Senate
33:10when it comes to childcare policy was introduced the failed Fairness for Stay-at-Home Parents Act,
33:15which focused on helping parents who decided to leave the workforce altogether. And if you're getting
33:20the sense that what he really wants is to turn the clock back to the 1950s, you're getting warmer,
33:26especially given he's also expressed reservations about no-fault divorce.
33:30And this is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American
33:34populace, which is this idea that like, well, okay, these marriages were fundamentally,
33:40you know, they were, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of
33:45them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they changed their underwear,
33:50that's going to make people happier in the long term. And maybe it worked out for the moms and dads,
33:55though I'm skeptical, but it really didn't work out for the kids in those marriages.
33:59Yeah, he said, we shouldn't have made it so easy for people to leave violent marriages,
34:04which is just wild for multiple reasons, including, you know what happened before you could easily
34:09get a divorce? Some women would kill their husbands. By making divorce easy and accessible,
34:14what we have definitely reduced is the amount of women in fabulous hats who claimed,
34:19my husband fell ill suddenly. That is not just a victory for feminism, it is a lifesaver for
34:27shitty husbands everywhere. But it gets even worse because Vance is also hardline anti-abortion,
34:33as he explained in a radio interview when he ran for Senate.
34:36Should a woman be forced to carry a child to term after she has been the victim of incest or
34:43rape?
34:44Look, my view on this has been very clear, and I think the question betrays a certain
34:48presumption that's wrong. It's not whether a woman should be forced to bring a child to term,
34:52it's whether a child should be allowed to live, even though the circumstances of that child's birth
34:58birth are somehow inconvenient or a problem to the society. The question really to me is about the
35:03baby. We want women to have opportunities, we want women to have choices, but above all,
35:10we want women and young boys in the womb to have the right to life.
35:15Okay. Every part of that is awful. Not just calling becoming pregnant by rape
35:20an inconvenience or taking women out of the pregnancy equation altogether,
35:24but also the phrase, young boys in the womb. What the fuck is wrong with you?
35:30If you can't discuss the realities of pregnancy without sounding like a high school football
35:34coach subbing a health class, don't comment on them at all. So that is at least in part
35:40who J.D. Vance is. And I'd argue it is repellent. But the dangerous thing is,
35:46he's proven himself able to hide the worst parts of himself at moments when the most people are
35:52watching him. Take the VP debate, where for 90 minutes, he managed to come off as measured,
35:57reasonable, and compassionate. Several times during that debate, Tim Waltz actually said,
36:02I agree with you. And once it was over, many analysts seemed surprised by what they'd just seen.
36:07Let's face it. Vance looked very reasonable. He looked rational.
36:11He seemed at many moments to be reasonable. Yeah. Um, and that was clearly a change in tone.
36:17I was getting texts from Democrats panicked, quite frankly, who were saying, wow, he's really
36:22moderating himself on a lot of these issues. He's the most likable he has ever been. Yeah.
36:28It's true. Even though, for what it's worth, it's not like that is the highest bar to clear,
36:32is it? He's basically saying the Mucinex mascot is more fuckable than ever.
36:36That's not saying as much as it frankly should. The point here is, when the next election rolls
36:42around, if he can put that act back on when everyone is looking, we may be in trouble.
36:48All of which is why it is so important to remember who J.D. Vance actually is,
36:52because he'll present himself as an anti-elitist man of the people.
36:56But much of his career has been bankrolled by tech billionaires. He'll go to bat for Alex Jones,
37:01arguing we should show grace to those who are 40% right. But he'll happily
37:05co-sign on childless people being sociopaths and the left being unhumans.
37:09He'll offer empathy and understanding when it comes to non-conventional thinkers,
37:13but has no problem deriding immigrants as a net negative on society.
37:17And it's not hard to see what the difference between those two groups are.
37:20The point is, I know Vance is easy to write off as a charismaless arsehole,
37:26but scratch even one inch under the surface, peel back the beard,
37:31and you'll find something far worse. His batshit views and his bare fucking face.
37:36Oh, and one last thing.
37:39J.D. Vance also stuck his dick in between the cushions of a sofa
37:43and thrust himself back and forth until climax. And if I may quote the man himself,
37:50yeah, of course, I was just trolling by saying that.
37:53But that doesn't mean that what I said was in any way untrue.
37:58And now, this.
38:00And now, Kelly Clarkson does not like horror movies.
38:05Well, let's talk about the new movie. It's Maxine. So what's it about? It's scary, right?
38:09It's a horror. Yeah, it's horror. Are you into horror? No. Me neither.
38:13I have to be completely honest with people on my couch when they say they're in a horror film,
38:17and I'll be like, I will never watch your thing.
38:20Horror movies, like, I will pee my pants.
38:22How are you with horror films usually? I don't watch them.
38:25Do you usually like watching them? No, I don't.
38:28My first one, really, that I watched was Get Out, and that's when I was like...
38:32I never went on a waterbed because of Freddy Krueger.
38:35Johnny Depp was always going to be the waterbed scene and Freddy Krueger. It's always in my mind.
38:38Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
38:39Freddy Krueger was the scariest thing I ever saw.
38:41Freddy Krueger was my guy.
38:43Oh, my God. We're so different.
38:45I don't watch horror. No, thanks.
38:47I don't do scary.
38:48I don't watch them.
38:49I don't watch horror.
38:50I'm like, peace out.
38:51You do like horror.
38:52Do you watch horror?
38:53Oh, I love horror.
38:53Oh, me? No.
38:54Oh, my God.
38:55You know?
38:55No.
38:56Kelly, why?
38:57It's scary.
38:58You know what? I saw something...
38:58This is random, but I saw something in my childhood, and it was actually a church,
39:02and it was this demon, and it was on top of this person. They were frozen, and I was like,
39:05oh, my God. I don't want to go to hell or see a demon ever in my life.
39:07And it ruined me. I don't watch anything scary.
39:09Aww.
39:09It was church.
39:13That's our show. Thanks so much for watching. We'll see you next week.
39:16Good night.
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