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00:11Well, hello and welcome to your Friday One show live on BBC One and iPlayer with J.B. Gill.
00:17And Clara Ampho.
00:19And tonight we are bringing you the stars of two of this weekend's biggest hit TV shows
00:23alongside a comedian making a surprising return to the stage.
00:26Oh yes, Susan Kalman is telling us why she's hitting the road again despite stepping away from stand-up for
00:3210 years.
00:33Plus, she'll be sharing how Strictly became such a huge turning point in her life.
00:37Also joining us is actor Ben Miles who made his name in the naughty sitcom Coupling
00:42before taking on the role of RAF officer Peter Townsend in The Crown.
00:46And now Ben is back in the latest series of the BBC's hugely popular thriller The Catcher
00:52and this time around there are even bigger twists and turns as the show delves further into the murky world
00:57of deepfake technology.
00:59Oh, and we've got even more high-stakes drama.
01:02Ahead of the grand final tomorrow, Gladiators Apollo and Fire will be here alongside Emily and Naomi,
01:08the last two female contenders standing.
01:11We'll be finding out about their epic battle to be crowned this year's champion.
01:16Look at the strength. You love to see it.
01:18And with the Easter holidays kicking off, if you're looking for inspiration to get outside,
01:22we've got a real spring treat for you as Hannah Stipfel visits the stunning Bodnant Gardens
01:27to photograph fields of daffodils in all their glory.
01:30And she goes on the hunt for some incredibly rare varieties.
01:34Stunning. As always, we love hearing from you.
01:37So if you've got a question for Susan, Ben or the Gladiators, do get in touch on WhatsApp 030 123
01:421700.
01:44Socials or email.
01:45Lots coming up, but first, with school up for the holidays,
01:48many parents will be planning a visit to their local toy shop with their kids.
01:51Yes, and with a new toy inspired by influencers,
01:54which includes a wooden ring light, smartphone and mic.
01:56Would you believe it?
01:58I actually can't.
01:59It's causing controversy this week.
02:01And former Olympic snowboarder Amy Fuller has been to Buckinghamshire
02:03to find out how much the toys we play with impact what we do later in life.
02:09Playing with toys as a child can be good for development.
02:13But can toys also be a great inspiration to what you might end up doing as a career?
02:19For me, it was when I got my first skateboard.
02:23I loved it so much that little did I know it would lead to me representing Team GB at my
02:30first Olympics.
02:32So, I'm interested in finding out what toys others have had that have helped inspire them.
02:37Are there any toys or hobbies you used to play with as a kid that have potentially influenced what you
02:42do today?
02:43Shop toys, things like that.
02:45You know, with a little trolley around.
02:47I used to have a trolley.
02:49With a register and a little fake till.
02:51Was there anything you used to put in your trolley?
02:53What were the items?
02:54Shopping items, baked beans, all the fruits, girl, all the fruits.
02:57And what do you do today?
02:58I am an assistant manager for a bookies.
03:00Okay.
03:01So, I work in retail.
03:02So, I would assume that that's sort of where it's come from.
03:05I work in a cash register all day long.
03:07I've always wanted to do that.
03:08I've manifested it.
03:10Manifested it from childhood.
03:12What toys or hobbies did you play or do as a child that maybe influenced your career?
03:18I learnt to play the recorder.
03:20What was it about that toy that captured your interest?
03:24I loved learning to play tunes.
03:27It's as simple as that.
03:29And I taught flute, clarinet and saxophone.
03:32Now, I thought I'd retired, but the local school pulled me back in.
03:36And I'm now teaching recorders.
03:39Wow!
03:40I used to pay with boats a lot.
03:42Trips and ended up joining the Royal Navy.
03:44You ended up joining the Royal Navy?
03:46Yeah.
03:46There was a lot of fads when I was in school and everything required me to be outside.
03:50So, it was, whether it was yo-yos, Diablo.
03:52Diablo was the wooden sticks with the string.
03:55Exactly, yeah.
03:55So, I've ended up in a career where I'm an outdoor instructor and I work with young people
03:59to try and get them engaged with learning through other means.
04:03I used to have one of those little circuits where you used to make the light bulb light up.
04:08It's like a wooden board, a little wire that goes around.
04:10I'm pretty sure I learned that at school.
04:11Yeah, so now I'm a shift engineer at a data centre.
04:14So, essentially, that has transcended into what you do today.
04:17I guess, yeah.
04:18I loved playing with, like, dollies.
04:20I was very, like, maternal as, like, a young girl.
04:22I was dressing them up, doing, like, hair and make-up on them as I'm a beautician.
04:27That is literally a streamlined transition.
04:30Well, on that, seeing as you're a beautician and it's raining and my hair's a mess.
04:33Yeah!
04:33Shall we pop off to the beauticians?
04:35Yeah, definitely.
04:35You can sort your hair and your make-up.
04:38Ah, thanks, Omi.
04:39I always knew that digital pet that I had would come in handy one day on the farm.
04:43You see, I had a microphone.
04:44Look at us now, JV.
04:46Exactly.
04:47Well, very soon we'll be catching up with gladiators Apollo and Fire
04:50and contenders Emily and Naomi ahead of tomorrow's big final.
04:53But before then, let's say hello to tonight's first guest.
04:56It's comedian Susan Calman and star of The Catcher, Ben Miles.
05:00Yes.
05:00Hello.
05:01Welcome, welcome, welcome.
05:03Hello.
05:04Ben, I'm going to start with you first.
05:05We were just watching there how toys can inspire us.
05:08Like a lot of kids, you were all about cars, weren't you?
05:10I was.
05:11I've got two brothers and the three of us used to play these racing games.
05:15We used to build cars, our own custom cars,
05:17out of a Scandinavian building block that you might know about.
05:21Got it.
05:22And we each had our little crews, our little teams,
05:25and we spent hours racing these cars around the house,
05:28smashing each other's ones to bits and then rebuilding them, customising them.
05:32And I wish we still had them.
05:34I'm forever talking with my younger brother and my older brother about,
05:37whose was that car?
05:38What colour was that?
05:39And that...
05:39It was just...
05:41It was great fun.
05:42Yeah.
05:42It was brilliant.
05:44I had similar memories as well.
05:45Turn another life.
05:46Could have been a race car driver, perhaps.
05:47You never know.
05:47We could have a little match, we could find some, we could build some later,
05:51and we could have a little run round.
05:52Yeah, you're on, you're on.
05:54Just, Susan, as well, just this month you found a childhood treasure.
05:58Oh, yes.
05:59Tell us about your golf clubs.
06:00So I discovered at the back of my mum and dad's garage,
06:03when I was about six, my dad taught me to play golf with these clubs I found,
06:08which were his clubs when he was a child.
06:11I think they're from the 1920s, to be honest.
06:14And I rediscovered golf last year, so all I do now,
06:18kind of remembering that beautiful period when I was younger,
06:22is I play golf.
06:23I play golf and I tell stories.
06:27Essentially, I've morphed into Ronnie Corbett.
06:29LAUGHTER
06:29I mean, I'd be amazing.
06:32That's not bad.
06:32Look at that.
06:33I did that as a tribute to Ronnie Corbett,
06:35because I realised when I first started doing comedy,
06:38I wanted to be really alternative.
06:41You know, really edgy.
06:42And now I've realised I want to be Ronnie Corbett.
06:44That's what I want.
06:45And it's a beautiful thing.
06:47Golf has changed my life,
06:49and it reminds me of that really beautiful part of my childhood,
06:53playing golf on the island of Arran with my dad.
06:55Love that.
06:56Never, ever stop playing, Susan.
06:58Well, it's not just treasure toys
06:59that Susan's been digging out for inspiration.
07:01As she prepares to return to the stage
07:03to do stand-up for the first time in ten years
07:06with a brand-new tour.
07:07So, Susan, tell us, what is it?
07:09As I say that, you're looking like,
07:10have I made this choice in my life?
07:12You have.
07:13So, tell us about the choice.
07:14Why come back to the stage after ten years?
07:16I mean, it's slight madness, to be honest,
07:18but it's been ten years.
07:20I've really missed being in front of an audience.
07:24And so much has happened in the past ten years.
07:26I'm at the best part of my life, I think, at 51.
07:30And I've got so many stories to tell.
07:32I just really wanted to get back on stage again.
07:35And also, honestly, my therapist retired last year,
07:38so I've got no-one to talk to.
07:39Right.
07:40So, part of it is a desperation to say what's been happening.
07:45So, you know, from Strictly onwards,
07:47so much has happened in the past ten years.
07:49I like that group therapy with your audience.
07:51Yeah, people get to listen to me
07:52and give me their feedback on how my life is going.
07:56Tell us about your...
07:57Cos your Strictly journey, of course,
07:58was with Kevin Clifton back in 2017.
08:00Tell us about your Samba costume.
08:03There you go.
08:04So, that was Wonder Woman.
08:05Now, the great thing about that
08:07is they let me keep that costume.
08:10Nice.
08:10So, at Halloween, I wear it for any geysers,
08:14we would call it in Scotland,
08:15or trick-or-treaters come round.
08:16I'm in my full costume.
08:18And sometimes, if I'm feeling just a bit down,
08:21I just put it on and take the bins out.
08:23LAUGHTER
08:24And I wander around Glasgow dressed as Wonder Woman.
08:28But it's a reminder.
08:29I got them out the other day,
08:31and it reminds me of just...
08:32I had such a lovely time with Kev.
08:35Yeah.
08:35He's, like, the best of people.
08:37He's still good friends now.
08:38Yeah, I went to see him.
08:39That was us.
08:40He's in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert just now.
08:43And I went to see him in Glasgow.
08:44And he...
08:45There's nothing nicer, I think, in life
08:47than seeing a friend be remarkable.
08:50And he's so talented.
08:51And every time I see him, I just laugh.
08:55And he's coming to see me in Liverpool with Stacey on tour.
08:59And I will embarrass him by saying how much I love him.
09:03We look forward to the embarrassment.
09:05As you mentioned, you're going on tour all over the UK.
09:08Besides Liverpool, where else are you really excited to visit?
09:12I'm doing a gig at the Glasgow Pavilion,
09:15which is an old-variety theatre.
09:16And it'll be the biggest show I've ever done in my home city.
09:20About 1,700 people.
09:22Wow.
09:22And I think doing stand-up in Glasgow,
09:24which is such a brilliant tradition of stand-up,
09:27will be...
09:28I think I'll probably cry, to be honest.
09:31Because I used to walk past that theatre when I was a kid.
09:34And to be playing the Glasgow Pavilion
09:37will be so incredible, I think, for me.
09:40So I'm really looking forward to that.
09:42But I've never played Liverpool before, actually,
09:44so that'll be great as well.
09:46Bring it on.
09:46The whole of the UK.
09:47Yes.
09:48Ben, you iconically were in the sitcom Coupling.
09:51I was.
09:51People loved, loved, loved that show.
09:53I loved Coupling.
09:54Well, there you go.
09:54I loved Coupling.
09:55Susan, loved, loved, loved Coupling.
09:56Would you like to do more comedy in the future?
09:58Oh, I'd love to do more comedy, yeah.
10:00I mean, comedy's such fun.
10:03It's just...
10:05It's a joy to do.
10:07And Coupling was so brilliant.
10:09It was such great writing by Stephen Moffat.
10:11The cast were great.
10:13The whole set-up was like one big happy family
10:15having a really good time every week.
10:17And recording it live in front of the audience
10:19down in Teddington was just...
10:21It was this kind of insane mix
10:24between, like, theatre and TV.
10:26And there was, like, a technical rehearsal,
10:28but it was all getting recorded.
10:30It was kind of beautiful chaos,
10:32and that's, I think, the best place
10:34for that kind of comedy to sit.
10:36Yeah.
10:37It has the potential to kind of fall apart at any moment.
10:40Sometimes it did.
10:41It keeps you on your toes.
10:42There we go.
10:43Yeah, it's the jeopardy of comedy,
10:44which is so exciting, isn't it?
10:47Yeah, absolutely.
10:47Oh, exciting.
10:48Fingers crossed more from you in the future.
10:49Yeah.
10:50Making us laugh.
10:51Susan, got to quickly talk to you about the football.
10:53As we know, Scotland have qualified for the World Cup,
10:57which is so exciting.
10:58Yeah.
10:59Tell us about that moment when you saw
11:01we know you're a big old footy fan.
11:02When we qualified, I broke down.
11:05I was lying on the floor of my living room crying,
11:09and I don't live near Hamden,
11:10but I could hear Hamden,
11:12and it is the greatest thing.
11:15No Scotland, no party.
11:16We are going to bring the fun to the World Cup.
11:19It's going to be amazing.
11:20Oh, brilliant.
11:21Yeah, it is going to be fabulous.
11:22Obviously, commiserations to Wales.
11:24Watch the matches last night.
11:25Absolutely, absolutely, yes.
11:26So, look, we look forward to seeing you
11:28cheer on Scotland in the future.
11:30Yes.
11:31And Tall Tales, Susan's UK tour,
11:33kicks off on Friday, the 11th of September,
11:35in Inverness.
11:36Talking of big comebacks,
11:37this month, after a four-year wait,
11:40the highly anticipated third series of The Capture
11:42returned to our screens.
11:44So, Ben here plays Commander Danny Hart.
11:46He is the former head of Counter-Terrorism Command.
11:49Now, the thriller centres around Met Police Officer
11:51D.I. Rachel Carey,
11:53as she battles against the intelligence services
11:55and their use of deepfake technology.
11:58Now, before Ben tells us more about this dramatic show,
12:01packed full of twists and turns,
12:02let's take a quick look.
12:04The question we asked ourselves a year ago
12:06has become even more urgent.
12:09How do we sort fact from fiction?
12:15Cameras back online.
12:16That is not the shooter I saw.
12:18This footage is compromised.
12:20Rachel, are you any closer to IDing a gunman?
12:24Who are you working with?
12:25All in good time, Rachel.
12:26All in good time.
12:29They're all suspects.
12:34Has it been four years since season two?
12:38Oh, my goodness.
12:39Time flies when you're having fun
12:40and making great drama.
12:42Time flies in counter-terrorism.
12:43There we go.
12:43I mean, it's such a gripping series.
12:45So, for anybody new to the capture,
12:47there is, understandably, a lot going on.
12:49So, despite the use of deepfake technology
12:51by the intelligence services being exposed
12:54in the last series,
12:55at this point, things aren't getting any easier, are they?
12:58Things never get any easier in the capture.
13:00They just get more and more complex and exciting.
13:03This season, yes, as you said,
13:05correction has been exposed.
13:06It's now known.
13:07It's now out there.
13:09This time round, Rachel Carey's now acting officer
13:13of Counter-Terrorism Command.
13:14My character, Danny Hart, got himself out of it
13:17at the end of the last series.
13:18He said, listen, I'm out.
13:19I've had enough.
13:20He just couldn't deal with the kind of immorality
13:23of the whole thing.
13:23So, he's kind of in the shadows,
13:25kind of enjoying the life of sort of corporate consultancy,
13:29bit of golf, probably.
13:30Yeah.
13:31You know, corporate seats at Stanford Bridge,
13:32that kind of thing.
13:33But there's something happens in this series
13:36that draws him back in,
13:38and he can't help but get himself involved again
13:41in order to try and fix it once more.
13:44This show, I mean, the previous two seasons
13:46were brilliantly layered,
13:48but this season three has so many fabulous layers to it.
13:52At the end of each ep,
13:53there's always that moment where you go, no.
13:56But I thought, and every ep ends with this kind of cliffhanger.
14:04I can't really tell you that much more about it
14:05because you'll just have to watch it,
14:07but it is very layered.
14:08It's very thrilling.
14:10It's all the technology in the show.
14:12Some people think it's all kind of very,
14:13very far-fetched and made up,
14:15but actually all this stuff, deepfake,
14:17as we are learning these days, it's all real.
14:21All the tech in this show is actually around and happening.
14:25Wow.
14:26And Ben Chan and the show's creator
14:27just builds the tension up and up and up.
14:30And it's funny too.
14:32There's little moments of odd humour in it.
14:34It's got everything.
14:36I was watching it last night,
14:38and I still enjoy watching it.
14:40That's a great time.
14:41You can hear the enthusiasm in your voice.
14:43Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:43I mean, you've played Commander Hart
14:45since the show started.
14:47Yes.
14:47Just tell us about his relationship with D.I. Carey
14:51and sort of how things have changed for him.
14:54Well, at the start, at the beginning of season one,
14:56my character, Danny Hart,
14:58was the boss of Counter-Terrorism Command.
15:01And Rachel Carey was a kind of newbie,
15:04come in, fast-tracked through the ranks
15:07to where she was.
15:09Season one, we see them having a kind of an affair.
15:13He's married, but he's having an affair with Rachel.
15:16Rachel ends it,
15:18much to, I think, Danny Hart's kind of astonishment.
15:21What do you mean this is all over?
15:23So that ends in season one.
15:24Season two, they're still working together,
15:27but there is that tension between them
15:28of the past that they had,
15:30but the job that they have to do together still.
15:33Season three, as I say,
15:34Danny Hart is kind of out of the Met,
15:36but still orbiting that world.
15:39So it's kind of matured this season,
15:41their relationship.
15:42There's still a kind of mentorship,
15:44but Rachel is now senior to him
15:47and is now calling the shots
15:49and telling him what he can and cannot do.
15:51So there's a kind of...
15:53The tables have turned, in a way,
15:54but the tension is still there as to
15:57I can still help Rachel in some ways,
16:00she can help me in some ways,
16:02so we're finding new ground together.
16:03And I guess there is an element of some may see
16:08of kind of, is there something still there?
16:11Bubbling under the surface.
16:12I mean, it's an office romance type of thing.
16:16Danny Hart would like to think so,
16:17but in reality, I don't think.
16:19I don't think he's in the running anymore.
16:21I really don't.
16:21I mean, it's such a fantastic cast.
16:23It's yourself, Holiday Granger,
16:25Ron Perlman, Indira Varma,
16:26the wonderful Puppet,
16:27Aseidu.
16:28Puppet's actually on the show with us on Monday.
16:30So I hear.
16:31He's a good egg.
16:32We love Puppet a lot.
16:33I mean, as we know,
16:34the show is very intense, very dramatic,
16:36but behind the scenes,
16:37surely you must have a lot of fun.
16:38It's so much fun.
16:39Being in a cop show is so much fun
16:41because you get to drive really fast
16:44through London with a flashing light off her.
16:46I feel like I'm nine years old
16:47in the programme.
16:48With your cars.
16:49With my cars.
16:50I feel like I'm in my car.
16:51Actually, I never had a police car.
16:52I should have had a police car.
16:54You need to write it down
16:55on Christmas.
16:55I could have gone faster
16:56long-handed with a blue light one.
16:58It's lots of fun.
17:00The training is incredible.
17:01The kind of physical training,
17:03the counter-terrorism experts
17:04we've had on the show
17:05over the series
17:06have been fascinating.
17:07There's all the firearms work.
17:10It's a lot of fun.
17:12And we do have a lot of just kind of
17:13running around in kind of tactical vests
17:16and guns and cars.
17:19It's not a job.
17:20It's just fun.
17:24Susan, some people might not know this
17:26about you,
17:26but you were a former lawyer.
17:28Yes.
17:29I can't get my words out.
17:29I was.
17:30I mean, I didn't know it.
17:31Neither did I.
17:32What do you think about
17:33all this deep, fake technology?
17:34Well, I used to be an intellectual property
17:35information technology lawyer
17:37for seven years.
17:38And I find it utterly terrifying,
17:41which is why when I leave the house now,
17:43I always wear a disguise.
17:45I just wear, you know,
17:45those glasses and a moustache.
17:46I wear that.
17:47So that I hit my face.
17:49It's terrifying.
17:49It's absolutely terrifying.
17:50The technology in the show,
17:52this is all kind of happening.
17:55So really, it's,
17:57I find watching shows like that
17:59quite frightening.
18:00Wanting, yeah.
18:00Because it's not,
18:02you know, you used to watch
18:02sci-fi on television and think,
18:04that'll never happen.
18:05And now you watch shows like The Capture
18:08and you think,
18:08that is happening.
18:10That's happening.
18:10It's happening.
18:11So, but, you know,
18:12good luck.
18:13Indeed.
18:14I'm always in disguise.
18:17So you'll never see me coming.
18:18That's the way I like to think of it.
18:20Ben, very, very quickly,
18:21we need to talk to you about
18:22the upcoming Kennedy biopic
18:23that you're in.
18:24So Michael Fassbender's in it also as well.
18:27Tell us about the part that you play in it.
18:29I play a character called Eddie Moore,
18:31who was Joe Kennedy Senior,
18:33the father of JFK.
18:35Joe Kennedy Senior's kind of sidekick,
18:38fixer, helper, accountant,
18:40muscle when needed.
18:41So I get to hang out with Michael Fassbender
18:45all the time,
18:45which is just so good.
18:47You've got the best life I've ever heard.
18:49So good.
18:50That's incredible.
18:51It's great.
18:52I just go,
18:52hi, Michael.
18:53Hi, Ben.
18:54How's it going?
18:54Great.
18:55So what are we doing today?
18:57It's a fabulous series.
18:59It's an eight episode show for Netflix.
19:03I think it'll be out next year.
19:05Telling the story of the Kennedy family.
19:07It starts quite early on
19:08because often when you think of the Kennedy's,
19:10you think of JFK,
19:11you think of the 1960s.
19:12This starts early 1930s,
19:15so we're like a generation behind.
19:18And it tells the story largely of Joe,
19:22played by Michael,
19:23and his wife Rose,
19:24played by the fantastic Laura Donnelly.
19:26Such a great cast in this show.
19:30And we see the story unfold
19:33of this iconic family.
19:35I mean, they're almost like
19:36the American royal family.
19:38Yeah.
19:38It feels a little like being on The Crown,
19:41which I was lucky enough to be in as well.
19:42It's like The American Crown.
19:44Do you know what I mean?
19:45Brilliant.
19:46As Susan said,
19:46it was great to be Ben.
19:48It truly is.
19:49I thought my CV was vaguely good,
19:51but you've been in every iconic television show.
19:54That's incredible.
19:55I'm not going to be playing Glasgow.
19:56No.
19:57There we go.
19:57Come up and join me.
19:59Exactly.
19:59And don't forget,
20:00you can see Ben in The Capture,
20:02which continues on BBC One,
20:03and iPlayer Sunday at 9pm.
20:06Still to come,
20:06we're getting gladiators ready.
20:08Ahead of tomorrow's...
20:09You've always wanted to say that.
20:10I have always wanted to say that.
20:12That fire on the pot over here
20:13and two of the top contenders,
20:15Emily and Naomi.
20:16But first,
20:17with nature bursting into life
20:18after a very long winter,
20:20wildlife filmmaker Hannah Stipfel
20:21has been to a very special place
20:23in the Conway Valley
20:24to capture a stunning
20:25but rare horticultural site.
20:29Spring is waking up the landscape
20:31across the UK.
20:33For wildlife lovers like me,
20:35it's one of the most exciting times
20:37of the year
20:37to photograph what nature has on show.
20:40Nothing says spring like daffodils.
20:42And where better to come
20:44than their traditional home,
20:46whales?
20:48Bodnant Garden in Conway
20:50has one of the most spectacular displays
20:53in Britain.
20:55Most of the daffodils we see today
20:57originated from Spain and Portugal
20:59and were bought here by the Romans.
21:01Ned Lomax is from Plant Heritage,
21:04an organisation determined
21:05to preserve our garden history.
21:08Over the years,
21:09they were brought into Britain particularly
21:10and then hybridisers and nursery people
21:12got together and made new varieties
21:15from those species.
21:17Astonishingly,
21:18there are now over 30,000 varieties
21:21here in the UK.
21:22A few are wild,
21:24but most are cultivated.
21:25So wild varieties
21:26and cultivated varieties
21:28are just as important
21:30as each other.
21:30Well, firstly,
21:31they're all beautiful
21:32and in gardens,
21:33species and cultivated varieties
21:34are most important.
21:35To keep tabs
21:36on every single type,
21:38the Royal Horticultural Society
21:40has a national register
21:41of daffodils.
21:43But even they have gaps
21:45as rarer daffodils
21:46are sometimes lost.
21:48Hello, Guy.
21:49Lovely to meet you.
21:51Guy Barter is their lead botanist
21:53and we'd like to see
21:54the gaps filled in.
21:56So what can people do
21:57at home to help?
21:58Well, mostly cherish their daffodils,
22:00plant more.
22:01And we believe
22:02that all over Britain
22:04in churchyards,
22:05hedgerows,
22:05people's gardens,
22:06there's patches of daffodils,
22:08some new,
22:08some old.
22:09And this is a fantastic
22:10genetic resource
22:11as well as being very beautiful.
22:13So if you have daffodils
22:14in your garden,
22:15look after them,
22:16cherish them.
22:16If they get crowded
22:17and they're no longer flower,
22:19which we call going blind,
22:20dig them up
22:21and replant them
22:22with a bit more space
22:23for each bulb.
22:23Do that in July
22:24just before they disappear
22:25underground.
22:26With thousands of plants
22:28in this one garden,
22:29Assistant Head Gardener,
22:31Lucy Bigwood,
22:32is always on the lookout
22:33for unusual varieties.
22:35Are there rare species here
22:36that you still
22:37don't know what they are?
22:39Absolutely, yeah.
22:40So we work really hard
22:41to try and keep track
22:42of everything we've got
22:43and keep it catalogued.
22:44But every year
22:44new things come into flower
22:46and it's a nice surprise
22:47and a good challenge for us
22:48to try and figure out
22:49what they are.
22:50And the daffodils,
22:51could there be rare varieties
22:52that you haven't discovered yet?
22:54Absolutely, yes.
22:56We're constantly
22:57checking them out
22:58and seeing what's flowering.
23:00The gaps in the daffodil record
23:02have led to a nationwide hunt
23:04for the rarest varieties,
23:06like the Mrs. R.O.
23:08Backhouse,
23:09and the Sussex bonfire.
23:11And two years ago,
23:12a rare daffodil
23:13was found right here
23:15in the garden.
23:16So this is Engelhardt's peach
23:18and it was bred
23:21by the Reverend George Engelhardt
23:23back in the early 1900s
23:25and he bred over 700 cultivars
23:27in his lifetime,
23:28which is very impressive.
23:29It looks quite different
23:30from a lot of the others.
23:31It's got these really narrow,
23:32twisting petals
23:32and this kind of peachy trumpet.
23:35This daffodil species
23:37is really rare.
23:38Yeah, yeah.
23:39We don't know many other places
23:40that are growing it.
23:41It's doing really well.
23:42It's obviously enjoying growing here.
23:44But yeah,
23:44hopefully we can have it growing
23:46in lots of other places
23:46in the future.
23:48Wherever you turn,
23:49this garden
23:50is full of surprises.
24:02I came here to capture
24:04the signs of spring
24:05and I found them everywhere
24:07from buzzing bees
24:08to rare daffodils.
24:10This garden is bursting into life.
24:14Oh, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous.
24:16Thank you, Hannah.
24:17We love daffodils.
24:18We do indeed.
24:19Now, time to welcome
24:20our final guest tonight
24:21ahead of the big
24:22glad data's final tomorrow.
24:24It's Fire and Apollo
24:25and two of this year's finalists,
24:26Naomi and Emily.
24:30Now, Susan,
24:32we're going to go to you
24:32because the joy...
24:34The joy on your face...
24:37The joy on your face
24:40when Apollo and Fire
24:42walked into this room
24:43was palpable.
24:44I mean, look,
24:44I mean, you're best friends already.
24:46I mean, tell us
24:47what gladiators means to you.
24:48I love gladiators
24:49and I apologise for touching you
24:50without necessarily asking.
24:52At my local shopping centre
24:54in Glasgow,
24:55there was a big queue one day
24:56and there were gladiators
24:57there for a personal appearance
24:58and I queued for an hour
25:00and then I had to leave
25:01because my dream
25:02was to meet the gladiators
25:03because I think they're amazing.
25:05I mean, I could still take you, mate,
25:06but at the same time...
25:07LAUGHTER
25:09Middle East moving on HRT,
25:11she's getting to this.
25:12You'd be great for television
25:13when you send it.
25:13Absolutely.
25:14When you send it right now,
25:14if you like it.
25:15I just think it's fab.
25:17Kids love you,
25:18families love you
25:19and I think anything
25:20which is family entertainment
25:22just now is brilliant
25:23and I love all of you
25:25and, you know,
25:27I just think you're...
25:28I think you're...
25:29I'll give you some tips
25:29at the end on that.
25:30Honestly.
25:31Well, Fire will come to you.
25:33It's been an intense ten weeks
25:34of tough competition
25:35in the Sheffield Arena.
25:37I've been doing my family as well.
25:38How impressive have you been
25:39with all the contenders,
25:41particularly Naomi and Emily
25:42because they're all
25:43incredible finalists.
25:44They actually are
25:44and you know what,
25:45the storyline behind
25:46everyone's stories,
25:47what they're fighting for
25:48on the show
25:48has been phenomenal this year.
25:50Honestly,
25:50I've been so impressed
25:51with you guys
25:51because they represent so much.
25:53They are bigger,
25:53faster, stronger
25:54and smarter
25:55because they have two series.
25:57True.
25:58So they're coming on like,
25:59oh, this is a new move
26:00that you've got going on.
26:01They've been on it
26:02and it's been amazing to see
26:03and it's led up
26:04to this amazing grand final.
26:05Like, it's going to be hot
26:06because she's the plan.
26:08Oh, hey!
26:09Oh!
26:10And that's why she's fire.
26:12Apollo,
26:13you started out
26:13in rugby and NFL.
26:15Tell us how it prepared you,
26:17you know,
26:17to be a gladiator,
26:18particularly with the new events
26:19you guys have got.
26:19Like, yeah,
26:20destruction here.
26:21Yeah, I know.
26:21What an amazing game
26:22for them to bring in.
26:23Honestly,
26:23I would say,
26:24first of all,
26:24kids,
26:24do not try that at home.
26:26Very good.
26:26But if anyone needs
26:27any DIY work,
26:28do it.
26:29I'll give you a good price.
26:30It set me up really well.
26:32You know,
26:32a lot of tackling,
26:32there's a lot of rough
26:33and tumble in the show,
26:34a lot of that in rugby
26:34and the NFL.
26:35So, it's a good mix.
26:36Brilliant.
26:37Emily,
26:37you're joining Naomi
26:38as well as Tyler
26:39and Josh in the final.
26:40What did it mean to you
26:41to finally get there?
26:43It was beyond words,
26:44honestly.
26:44There are so many people
26:45backing me in my corner
26:46and it was so great
26:47to sort of see that
26:48what was a random
26:49application to gladiator
26:50is being like,
26:51I won't actually get on,
26:52has led to me
26:53being at the grand final.
26:54So many people
26:55in my corner.
26:55It's beyond words.
26:56It's so surreal.
26:57Done so well.
26:58It's so exciting.
26:59And Naomi,
26:59you said you've really
27:00had to push yourself
27:01out of your comfort zone
27:02to get to where you are.
27:04Tell us more about that.
27:05Yeah, you know,
27:05my background has been
27:06team sports
27:07and my role within that
27:08has been captains
27:08and supporting the team
27:09around me
27:09and I've never really
27:10put myself as an individual
27:11forward
27:12and I just threw myself
27:13into this
27:13and each time
27:14I grew a bit of confidence.
27:16So, it's been a fantastic
27:17learning about myself
27:18and for my kids as well.
27:19So, yeah,
27:20I'm really pleased.
27:21Yeah, you're a real life
27:21superhero,
27:22it's all of you.
27:23I mean,
27:23Fyre,
27:24as a top athlete,
27:25how important
27:25is it for shows
27:27like Gladiators
27:27to empower women
27:28of all ages,
27:29especially when it
27:30comes to sport?
27:31Well, first of all,
27:31I hope we're empowering
27:32everyone but definitely
27:33being against
27:34these amazing queens.
27:36And what I love
27:36about the show
27:36is that they represent,
27:38like I said,
27:38so much in terms of
27:39they won't mind me
27:40saying that we are
27:41in our 40s
27:41and Emily is not
27:42in her 40s
27:43and it's showing
27:44that you can reinvent
27:45yourself,
27:45you can go for it
27:46and like Naomi said,
27:47it's not about
27:47being fearless,
27:49it's not about
27:49not being afraid,
27:50it's about going for it
27:51and they did it
27:51every time.
27:52I mean,
27:52Emily going up there
27:53against Jewel
27:54and different events,
27:55it was tough to see,
27:56like she's a pocket rocket
27:57and absolutely
27:59waiting for it.
28:00The eyes were just
28:01locked in.
28:02Absolutely.
28:03Emily,
28:03you've got loads of support
28:04from all your family
28:05and your friends.
28:06You're meeting up
28:06for a party on Saturday
28:07and I hear your parents
28:09have been rallying
28:09the troops
28:10in our hometown of Croyland.
28:12Honestly,
28:12I've got to rep South London
28:13back on the map
28:14for good reasons.
28:20Everyone here
28:21is also invited,
28:22by the way.
28:22My dad has been going
28:23around.
28:23Everyone we want,
28:24the more the merrier,
28:25it's going to be
28:25so much fun,
28:26honestly.
28:27He literally invited me,
28:27didn't he?
28:28I will be there,
28:29by the way.
28:29He invited me.
28:30Done, done, done.
28:31Well,
28:32that is all.
28:33We've got time.
28:34Oh, we've got,
28:34yeah, we've got the flag.
28:35We've got the flag.
28:36Oh, yeah,
28:36there's so many
28:37great things happening
28:38and don't forget,
28:39you can watch
28:39the Gladiators'
28:40grand final
28:41tomorrow at 5.45
28:42on BBC One
28:44and Leicester in Scotland
28:45where it starts
28:45at 7.20.
28:46Susan,
28:47yeah, you're good,
28:47you're good.
28:49Don't worry.
28:50Hang on,
28:50I'll be ready.
28:52And, of course,
28:53it will be available
28:54on iPlayer,
28:55plus tickets
28:56to the Gladiators'
28:57live tour
28:58are on sale now.
28:59Lots of people
29:00very excited
29:01to talk to you all.
29:02Yeah, we've got a comment
29:03for Naomi and Emily.
29:04It says,
29:04Alice says,
29:05sorry,
29:05I'm a huge fan
29:06of Emily and Naomi
29:06and they are such
29:07a massive inspiration.
29:09And hello to Sue
29:11who says,
29:11I cannot wait
29:12to see Susan
29:13from the front row
29:13at the Warwick Arts Centre
29:14with her friends
29:15Tracy,
29:16Chris and Louise.
29:17Oh, I love them.
29:17Well, that is all
29:18we've got time for tonight.
29:20Thank you so much
29:20to all of you
29:21for joining us.
29:22We are back next week
29:23and joined by
29:23a brilliant line-up
29:24including Anton Deck,
29:25Hugh Bonneville,
29:26Patsy Kensett
29:27and Bill Bailey.
29:28Have a lovely weekend.
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