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00:05so my family we grew up very very sheltered very wholesome very simple but then things
00:11really changed I really don't like change you've told me you can't accept how our values don't
00:17align then I don't see the future with us together you know my older brother my parents
00:22we are moving forward with a divorce no family's perfect we've all just changed
00:29one way or another for better or worse it's the first years relationship I've had since Olivia
00:33I most definitely am in love with Tegan he said he's the one how can you explain falling in love
00:40with someone you know what I mean my name's Zach great to meet you I can't wait to just be
00:46hopefully
00:47engaged by the end of the day will you marry me please say no yes my whole family feels uncomfortable
00:56nobody is really happy other than my dad I got the memo be the dad that Lydia wants you to
01:03be I feel
01:04like Barry wants everybody to like him I think that's why he signed off on the marriage so quickly
01:10what was going on with Veronica and Micah that was really not good you're not emotionally intelligent
01:19grow a pair you're talking so far down to me Veronica sees a headline and she says your brother's
01:25girlfriend has an OnlyFans he wants to see it I was concerned about the wedding itself and then Veronica just
01:32kind of pushed me over the edge nobody around is a full extent of how crazy it was I think
01:40we need to leave go back to
01:43Boca and I we are done Ethan couldn't get over the fact that he thinks Zach is gay talk about
01:50lack of any
01:51respect for someone's wedding especially your sisters and we need to have a conversation with with
01:58him at some point we just felt very very disrespected growing up as an only child I always wanted a
02:20large
02:20family healthy fresh air lots of music and lots of love and I wanted to share that with people it
02:27was
02:32beautiful the farm was the perfect place for all of those things to come together and the farm has
02:40always been the place we all come back to which is why after years away I've finally returned
02:59I've moved back here with the girls we have two dogs three kittens and we're finally settled
03:05I didn't want to live at the farm during the divorce because it was hard to be so close to
03:12Barry knowing that if I had to go run errands I might see him but now the divorce is done
03:18and I'm back
03:19home and I'm reclaiming my life have you ever seen anything cuter than this yes this he's so cute
03:32I'm here with the girls half the time and the other half the time they're with Barry and somebody else
03:39lives here with us too Ken for the first couple years after Barry and I separated I just wasn't
03:54sure exactly what I wanted and I couldn't be serious about somebody when I was legally still married to
04:01somebody else so Ken and I broke up a few months before Lydia's wedding but then when the divorce was
04:08finalized like we realized that we did want to be with each other when Ken moved in we wanted it
04:19to
04:19feel like it's his home too and so we let him decorate it however he wanted and he even brought
04:25a jukebox
04:29mercy has learned the synthesizer part to jump by Van Halen from listening to the jukebox and it's
04:37definitely different than when we lived at the farm years ago we didn't have a jukebox playing 80s
04:43classic rock come here Lexi I'm definitely happy I'm back it isn't perfect and I've made lots of
04:51mistakes but lucky me I've got lots of people willing to tell me when I mess something up
05:01anywhere we go there we go there we go yeah it feels like feels like home what'd you think of
05:08church
05:08this morning oh it's so good yeah just a little laundry to do I think the rest of the house
05:15is
05:15pretty much in order okay sides for this stuff all right what was that okay so we've known each other
05:26over you now made it these are just all your shirts right I think you have a few figures oh
05:36that one's
05:36mine that sounds different here what's going on yeah so I I have decided to go with contacts because
05:45because after he got married I just kept smudging them up so he smudged up his glasses how did you
05:51smudge up his glasses I wonder anyway this is our apartment it's everything we need we're able to host
06:04people play games and hang out because that's what we've always wanted to do just have people over and
06:10have a good time now what is it like for you going from living in a bachelor pad to with
06:16a wife it's
06:17nice to come home to a home that has been created by my wife I love having a reason to
06:23clean the home
06:24moving in together was so much easier than people made it out to be I don't think there are any
06:30things
06:31that like he does that annoys me he knows not to leave the toilet seat up he knows not to
06:37crowd the
06:38counter space because that's for me to do I'm truly surprised how well we adjusted to living
06:44together and just building a home together so be honest right what is life like living with me
06:53as your wife amazing of course but after 10 p.m you um are on a different level
07:05is the honeymoon phase over yet nope Zach sees a sign of me that no one else will ever see
07:12ever know
07:13about that's that I think I've uh not only introduced her but also watered the seed of of curiosity for
07:24her in this realm and so I think uh it's fun to see her and and me just like interact
07:31in those ways
07:35Lydia's act just said you're naughty
07:39it's true
07:44dear lord thank you for this food thank you for this time together a wonderful day at church
07:49in your name amen amen all right so good the best part of marriage has just been
07:59being fully known and fully loved
08:03the best part of married life is definitely learning uh whether it's learning about Lydia
08:08or learning about myself take your time and be who she needs and in times of need so
08:20we have two empty chairs I am excited to have start a family and everything with you and
08:28I like feel like I'm ready to be a mother
08:33I can agree yeah traveling's really fun with you though we still have a lot of places we want to
08:39go it's not that we're going to stop traveling when we have kids there'll just be fewer in far
08:44between and more special because there'll be more people to share with yeah so we got married in
08:51February it's been eight months and so we're planning to wait a year before we start a family
08:56four months left who's counting apparently you I love the idea of starting a family with you
09:05I'm ready we're just preparing our lives for another human being we don't want to you no we don't want
09:24um I know Mariah and Micah are only in town for a limited time but we were hoping to have
09:33that
09:33conversation for the whole family and everything it's been eight months of Zach and I praying sorting
09:41through everything and what happened leading up to the wedding I feel like you've been mistreated
09:47and in line about and that first year has been hard we just want to have one conversation with the
09:54whole family in one place there are so many assumptions made about both of us it did some
09:59damage and we've had to deal with that for the months that we've been married they're saving your
10:04first kiss for your wedding yeah how do you do that I gotta ask you yeah are you gay yeah
10:14I know
10:15I'm I'm straight but we had to iron out those assumptions and then show each other that we
10:21actually cared for each other more than anything that anyone said about us I gotta learn what how to
10:27move forward in that so obviously want to be there to support you if you gotta teach us and stuff
10:33out
10:33in that so I don't think I have to figure anything out I think I just need to say a
10:37few things okay
10:55I was living up in Minnesota and then I moved down here to Georgia in July I just wanted
11:03to have a change of scenery and be a cluster of family and everything so I've been down here getting
11:09the farm in shape building this barn and you know lots of land work cutting down trees mowing staying
11:17at the farm or at my dad's house depending on what I'm doing just seeing what it's like to live
11:23back down
11:23here are you divorced yet no she Olivia will not call or respond do anything she's purposely
11:33trying to hold me up trying to make my life hell I believe Olivia won't let me go because she
11:44doesn't want to let me move on to anybody else I think that's her motive what's going on with Tegan
11:57you know me and Tegan broke up and I don't know
12:08I knew that she was tired a long distance and I kept telling her that I would move to Wisconsin
12:16and I
12:17never did and you know you can only tell someone so many times I'm going to do this and you
12:24don't
12:24and it just doesn't mean anything
12:29me not being divorced yet still that's been extremely frustrating for me over the last year
12:37and definitely has affected me and Tegan I've had an attorney for over a year now and Olivia has
12:48ignored him said you know I'm out of the country I'll get back to you when I'm home and then
12:53weeks
12:53later when she comes back she never does anything so he has to start over get him trying to get
12:58nothing
12:58ever has happened sometimes in life you're lucky enough to meet somebody that you actually truly
13:13connect with like not just on a physical level but like a spiritual emotional level and that was very
13:24much true with me and Tegan it's hard to move on I feel like I can't walk away and spend
13:33the rest of my
13:34life wondering if I could have saved it I really truly feel like there's unfinished business
14:05I feel like they're coming here wanting an apology mom pretty much accused Zach of being controlling
14:14and taking over desires I wanted for the wedding let's go know your daughter before you make accusations
14:22like that hug your brother huh I'm a little bit concerned about Ethan because he can be pretty
14:30hot-headed I could tell with Zach that he's found something really good let me just polish my halo you
14:37know I want you all to know the night before our wedding it was actually the hardest night of my
14:42life
15:01how you been oh I'm pretty good good to see you have you been pretty good I'm coming up here
15:11to see all my
15:12family I haven't seen him in a while been really busy oh I got a new go-kart you got
15:18a running no not
15:19yet I'm also coming to take a whole bunch of my stuff back down to Florida because I finally have
15:24my own
15:24place your spare doesn't look any good Ethan I'm gonna drive to Mexico in this do you want to push
15:30me
15:30no after I broke up with Veronica I knew I needed to make a change I met a pretty incredible
15:37girl and
15:38we are doing great and we are happy keeping things somewhat private you know kind of evaluating
15:47everything that's happened over the last couple years I don't think I was on the path for what I
15:53wanted and I'm gonna switch things up a little bit and just chase a peaceful life looks like Isaac made
16:03it
16:09yeah thanks for dropping me off Kaelin dropped me off today everything's good between us still we've
16:17been together for just over a year now all right well I'll see you soon it's been a while since
16:22the
16:22wedding there were a few factors that led to things just being tense part of it was them rushing the
16:29wedding and us not really knowing Zach well enough I didn't want to sit around and just let somebody walk
16:36into my family that wasn't gonna treat my sister right because I've seen that happen before with my
16:41brothers ancestors and I've had it and I wasn't gonna have it again I was gonna do mercy mercy mercy
16:57Lord
16:58have mercy long time amazing Montana has been treating me very well very peaceful very happy
17:11you guys I'm so happy to be home you see what I've done this looks great isn't it crazy oh
17:20my gosh I
17:21love that it's open it feels really good to be back here for a while the farm just kind of
17:26felt like
17:27not abandoned but there was nothing really you know going on it was a rental property and it just had
17:35a
17:35different vibe to it now having mom living there it's it feels a lot more like home it's just a
17:45difference kind of special being able to come home now oh Ethan do you like it I like it yeah
17:55looks good
17:56on you yeah thanks you well it like this complements the shape of your head and nicely
18:00thank you I'm like yours oh I'm wearing a wig right now um I have alopecia an autoimmune condition
18:16that causes hair loss it started when I was little when it's really bad I have no eyebrows eyelashes no
18:25hair on my head that's what I'm dealing with right now these are just stickers no they're not yeah
18:32they're they're they're just literally cheap stickers I got online and then I have four wigs that I kind
18:41of can play around with I'm working on making a collection of a lot of them let me see your
18:46nose
18:47pretty good isn't it yeah I'm gonna oh yeah did you actually get plastic surgery no oh okay I just
18:54got I literally I went to the emergency room that one night got the stitches I pulled the stitches out
18:59myself and fine my gosh that was quite a night lord yeah so what are we doing I'm on three
19:07hours of
19:07sleep I drove overnight Lydia and Zach are coming up here yeah Lydia and Zach who want to have a
19:12meeting
19:13with us about their feelings or maybe I don't know yeah Lydia and Zach want to sit down and talk
19:21to
19:22everybody but I have a lot on my heart and my mind me and Tegan are broken up it's very
19:30hard to shake
19:30my focus off of that for anything I just feel like there was way too many emotions people got carried
19:38away yes to say the least how long has it been since we've been to the farm it's been a
19:55minute I think
19:56it'll be good to have the whole family there to talk with everyone we're going to the farm we figured
20:06it
20:06was a good time because if the whole family's in town pretty last minute but we just wanted to
20:10address stuff around our wedding we had some pretty surprising things come our way when Ethan asked if
20:20I was gay it was just very it didn't make sense I had proposed and you're asking if I'm even
20:25attracted
20:25to her like this is ridiculous I wanted to bring it to their attention that you know what they did
20:35did hurt us and you know they could have gone about it quite differently no when we were engaged I
20:44know
20:44there was a lot of people talking about Zach and I and their concerns about us they said they were
20:50doing
20:51everything because they care in that care all I felt was hurt well I want you know I want you
20:57to
20:57be happy and I'm very happy to see that you're happy but I just have to say it you only
21:02known over
21:03three months and you get married in two months you sure you're good with that well four months if that
21:08matters it's too fast it's too much I feel like they're rushing into it we all feel pressured into
21:15having to accept somebody that we don't know how can Lydia really know like how much of a provider
21:21you could be or excuse me I'll take care of Lydia just I can't take like much more I'm just
21:25gonna
21:25lose it yeah that guy really does pop in blue it's like hey this is something you did that affected
21:35us
21:35moving forward we want to move forward and this is this is something that is we feel is holding us
21:40back in our relationship with you because of how it hurt Zach and Lydia are coming I'm a little bit
21:54dreading it because I know that things were crazy at their wedding and I feel like they're coming here
22:02wanting an apology and I have mixed feelings about that because I am sorry that a lot of things
22:10happened the way they did at the same time I'm not sorry that we really cared last night Lydia called
22:23us we asked her if she was okay with me and mercy being on the conversation and she said she
22:27didn't
22:27really see a need for us to be there I think they don't want us to hear what they have
22:31to say
22:31obviously I guess I am a little bit nervous about Zach and Lydia's expectations anything
22:38that was said or done before the wedding was coming from a place of love and concern about Lydia we
22:43were concerned about her because there are crazy people out there and it's sad that you have to
22:47question everything but you really do yeah and with that timeline it's completely normal for us to
22:54have questions I mean just you know all of us have moved on moved forward and accepted Zach as a
23:04brother-in-law
23:05a son-in-law whatever as part of the family including Ethan and Isaac and Micah but I feel like
23:11Zach and
23:12Lydia haven't been able to move on
23:18I've been angry I've been really upset at my family for what they did there were nights on end that
23:25I
23:25would fall asleep crying and Zach was just there to come for me because I was just hurt and I
23:29was just
23:29upset it took us a while to kind of approach this conversation we were frustrated we were scared of
23:39maybe not being accepted or loved dealing with all that at once took a long time I also wanted to
23:48be able to talk knowing what I wanted to say and not just getting all emotional and not having a
23:55direction it took eight months I'm not ashamed of that I've really been wrestling with it a lot
24:07what I would say how how I would say it I think some of the things they said just made
24:14me realize
24:15like they don't really know me and that hurts because you want to be known by your family I
24:25don't know if it's just me or if most of the family feels this way if it's just a middle
24:30child but
24:31I've always felt like overlooked second thought and I just felt that on my wedding day and that's
24:37just not supposed to be I know I need this to move forward and whatever happens from it I need
24:48to be
24:48okay with that I just know this is the step I need to take what are some things that you
25:02might want to
25:02address with your mom I mean definitely with what she had said about you being controlling I have no
25:09idea how this family meeting is gonna go I need to address with mom just how she went about a
25:19few
25:19things like she pretty much accused Zach of being controlling and taking over desires I wanted for
25:25the wedding yet she didn't even know what I had thought of I've seen a usurping of Lydia's desires
25:33where Lydia wants something for the wedding and he just shoots it down because he has another plan in
25:38mind she said I wanted hunter green for my wedding which is a color I would never think of blue
25:43has
25:43always been both our favorite colors it's blue that's not and I gave my opinion but then said after
25:51I was like you know I think blue looks best but I want you to make the decision because you're
25:57the
25:57bride and you know I think you know you have a better eye for those sorts of things and so
26:04I if
26:05anything I was completely letting her make the decision it was just yeah it's like know your
26:12daughter before you make accusations like that
26:31oh king of the world I'm king of the world
26:43what are you doing oh hello I'm just envisioning myself out on the golf
26:50clipping at 20 knots nothing but the the wind in my hair and the spray on my skin
27:01okay no I mean so yeah I was just checking it out that's all
27:07so uh have you found any uh prospective buyers Micah bought it Micah bought this yes I made him
27:15quite a deal on it I think he's gonna fix it up and sell it wow he sometimes pops up
27:21in random
27:21places like on the boat in the middle of the field he's giving myself a self-guided tour since you
27:28know
27:28years past I missed out on the tour that you've given others okay we're generally on good terms but I
27:36like him to call first before he shows up I mean that's something that I've kind of asked him to
27:41do I
27:42don't want to be in the house and look out the window and just see him there I want to
27:47know if I look
27:48out I'm going to see woods and birds maybe a deer I'm not going to see Barry and he might
27:56see
27:56something he doesn't want to see I think Lydia and Zach are going to be here soon so do you
28:04want
28:04them to find you on the boat or do you want to come up closer to the house I'll get
28:08down and I'll be
28:10over in a little bit okay well I'm going to go see the kids this is the first time all
28:17the family
28:17we're going to be able to be together since the wedding I became aware of Zach and Lydia's
28:23challenges once they got back from Europe how they were feeling during the wedding the night before the
28:29rehearsal all that I began to understand you know just how deeply Lydia was feeling the hurt and the
28:35pain my role as father is to be Lydia's validation and I know that I did that more so than
28:43any of the
28:44boys or Kim all right I mean of it all right here we are
29:15we got this we got this we got this let's go
29:59today we're going to talk about some of the things that happened around the wedding and
30:03um kind of Lydia and Zach's feelings about all of the wedding drama and
30:12Ken is inside working on his jukebox he asked me do you want me to sit in on this and
30:19I said
30:19well I think this is just going to be family
30:27I'm more of a quiet person I've heard both sides of the story I would rather be in the house
30:34watching the dogs I try to avoid drama as much as possible
30:45it is weird that you know Ken's now at the house that I used to be head of the household
30:53over but
30:54you know it's like what do you say weird is the new norm so I'm just what do you do
31:00I'm used to weird
31:09go hug your brother-in-law
31:13hey how's it going
31:15doing good how you doing
31:23wow everybody's here this is a big conversation
31:26going into it I'm like you know Lydia knows exactly what she's going to say
31:32how we felt about things we're going to control what we can control and whatever
31:37their reactions are we can't control
31:41you've been traveling yeah Lydia and Zach have been upset with me and Ethan and really everyone
31:49because of everyone except Barry because of how things played out at their wedding
31:57I mean I think they're wanting apologies do I think it's fair I mean
32:02are you going to apologize I don't I don't know
32:07I'm a little bit concerned about Ethan because he can be pretty hot-headed
32:13and I'm hoping that that will be calm and under control today
32:28so thank you guys for making this happen been wanting to have this conversation for a while
32:34and I'm glad you guys could all make it I guess I'll start with owning whatever I can I know
32:39it was quick when we got married and I know that did kind of pressure you guys to
32:48you have to get to know Zach in a certain amount of time and and I'm I'm sorry if that
32:52pressured you in any way
32:53but with that like some people chose to get to know him
32:58and some people just made their judgments and
33:03and that was that
33:05I know you guys care
33:08it would be amazing
33:13if there was a way to show Zach care especially to Zach
33:17and some of you have done really well at that
33:19but if you do approve if you do see that it's good
33:23it would be nice to see that effort
33:27a little bit
33:32if there are any concerns that still are lasting now
33:38or any questions that you guys have in general
33:40I'm also open to those conversations
33:44I don't have a lot of pain from what they did to me
33:47it's more that they would do it to me
33:50and that they're hurting her in the process
33:52that hurt me more
33:54I'm trying to lift Lydia up because I know what she's doing is right
33:58we want to figure it out we want to move forward
34:00and obviously like we're open books and we want to figure things out
34:05if there's anything that you guys don't see fit
34:08I'd love to be a part of this family in that
34:10and so yeah just kind of voicing what she was
34:18I want you all to know
34:20sorry I did not want to cry
34:29the way we were treated the night before our wedding
34:32supposed to be a joyful time celebrating the last night as a lap
34:37it was actually the hardest night of my life
35:11the way we were treated the night before our wedding
35:14supposed to be a joyful time celebrating the last night as a lap
35:19it was actually the hardest night of my life
35:31Lydia I felt awful after
35:37I don't know hindsight
35:42I guess I can't speak for everyone here
35:44but I'm assuming most of what was done
35:47even though it wasn't done in the right way
35:50or everything happened so fast or whatever the excuse is
35:52it was looking out for your best interest
35:55because we all care about you a lot
35:59there's been obviously tension there was a lot of tension between my brothers
36:04some me we do need to make sure he's the one for Lydia
36:06he needs a test to see his true colors
36:10I say we just let it happen today and now we just try to give a
36:13I was so wrapped up in a lot it's not an excuse I should have
36:20been there for you even more than I was
36:23you still danced with me
36:25I know I did
36:26that means a lot
36:30I can only imagine how difficult that was for Lydia and Zach
36:33Zach especially
36:36you know hindsight I'm like Zach you're a great guy
36:39you two seem fit for each other
36:41but when you're you know
36:44I meet you two hours before you propose to my sister
36:48there's a lot of stuff that goes on
36:51yeah I mean you know people do act different under pressure
36:55and that's mainly what I was feeling
36:57was a lot of pressure with it being rushed
37:00and then seeing you know past relationships
37:02people have come into the family really fast
37:04and just turned out bad
37:06and that's the only thing that was stuck in my head
37:09looking back I see that I
37:12certain times I acted you know like an idiot
37:16I'm going to apologize to both of you for certain things that I've done
37:20it may have been good intentions or
37:22thought it was good but just went about it completely wrong way
37:25that's all I see from my end so
37:27appreciate it
37:29you know you both were saying
37:31if we still have things or whatever
37:34I don't have I don't think any of us do
37:36for me from the time that you two said I do
37:39it was done and I'm 100% supportive of both of you
37:43and I see you as a son son-in-law part of the family
37:51so far I'm seeing more healing with Micah and Isaac than there is with Kim
37:56I think there's a conversation that just needs to happen
38:00between Lydia and Kim
38:03there's a lot there to unpack
38:05it goes deeper than the wedding
38:07it goes into
38:09the realm of when the divorce happened
38:11and things like that
38:12there's healing that's needed there I think relationally between those two
38:17all the concerns that everyone voiced
38:20whether to you or in private
38:23whether you go about it in the proper way or the wrong way
38:27there is a time for that
38:28and that time has passed
38:29you guys are both part of the family now
38:33and I'm very happy to see you both doing well
38:36and I'm sorry anything that I did
38:39you know hurt you
38:41which I know it did
38:41so I apologize for that
38:46before their wedding
38:47I was just saying
38:50what I saw and what I felt
38:51just like Isaac and Micah
38:55we were just encouraging Lydia
38:58to not rush into something
39:00especially with not knowing really
39:02what their physical attraction is
39:04I think there's nothing wrong with checking yourself
39:07and being like
39:07do you see what I see
39:08or am I just delusional
39:09you know
39:12but I certainly
39:14could have been nicer
39:15you know
39:16gone about things
39:17maybe in a better way
39:19it's awesome to have you back here
39:21being able to have
39:23more time with you
39:24because it's a lot closer than Minnesota
39:26so
39:28it's encouraging to hear Ethan apologize
39:30he definitely had quite a big piece
39:33and just the pain and hurt caused
39:36I wouldn't call it water under the bridge
39:38I would just call it
39:41forgiveness
39:42of just
39:43him owning up to the things he did wrong
39:46I mean this could be clear to you
39:49and dad I don't know if I've said it enough
39:51but thank you so much for all your support
39:55please
39:57I feel like it's almost like a little jab at me
40:00like
40:01at least my dad was supportive
40:02you know
40:03my mom wasn't
40:05but
40:05she was feeling all of that support
40:07because Barry just
40:08rubber stamped
40:10the Zach relationship
40:11and didn't even ask questions about
40:14anything
40:16when you're just getting to know somebody
40:18you just
40:19you can tell
40:20you know
40:21and I could tell with Zach
40:22you know
40:23Lydia's found
40:25something really good
40:26I just wish I could have exported that
40:30to everyone
40:33well I just had a piece from the beginning
40:35and I supported him the whole time
40:38let me just polish my halo
40:40you know
40:43he's gloating a little bit
40:44and I feel like I don't get any credit
40:47for
40:47really caring
40:49about who she spends the rest of her life with
40:51in the process of getting to know him
40:53seeing him
40:55for who he is
40:56gave me the peace
40:57yeah
40:58they're meant for each other right
41:01Barry from the beginning
41:02was a very trusting
41:04person
41:04in me
41:05and
41:06I really appreciated that
41:08but
41:09I just don't think
41:10Kim has really done that
41:11I think there's a lot still to
41:13figure out
41:14and I think
41:15I've seen too many tears
41:16from Lydia
41:17to think that everything's okay
41:26today we're trying to find Bigfoot
41:36one of my favorite things in the world is being high
41:39I'm high as a kite
41:40you're on a dating app
41:42hello
41:44I'm Barry
41:45Barry has a nickname
41:46he's called Plath Daddy
41:48you know I got it like that
41:51me and Tegan
41:52we haven't talked in a while
41:53really
41:54so
41:55you're running after her
41:58the weight that I've put on
41:59in the last
42:00four and a half years
42:01it's been hard
42:02but I'm
42:03turning that around
42:04I can tell that you're not
42:05attracted to me
42:07like I am
42:09Tegan doesn't know
42:10that I'm here
42:11the worst thing that can happen
42:13is she finds out
42:15Ethan Plath
42:18I'm starting to think that
42:19maybe you know
42:20it's going too fast
42:21was Caelan putting
42:22pressure on you
42:23she wants to get married soon
42:25I never pressured you
42:26about
42:26really anything
42:30that was her
42:31are you serious
42:34I think he's here
42:36oh my god
42:38I heard you talk
42:39about Joshua
42:40but the way that
42:41you called me out
42:42that hurt
42:44we lost a son
42:46in 2008
42:47it was an accident
42:50mom has been the target
42:51with people in the past
42:53but looking at it now
42:54from a different perspective
42:55she was never in the wrong
42:56I've heard things about
42:58the way you pursued Tegan
42:59and you giving a lot
43:01and her not giving in return
43:03I wasn't looking for your opinion
43:05if people don't want our opinions
43:07we won't give our opinions
43:08it actually makes me angry
43:12I'm not perfect
43:13I know I very well
43:14could have judged
43:15them wrongly
43:17it's not all
43:28you can't pay
43:29for your opinion
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