00:00Prime Minister Nayindra Modi Ji, Amisha Ji, Chandrababana Ji, Pawan Kallan Ji, Lokeh Ji.
00:04Thank you very much. Next speaker Sri P.V. Midun Radhi Ji. Now you can respond to the questions.
00:12Thank you, sir. Sir, this bill is regarding AP Reorganization Act.
00:20I would have been very happy if the members who spoke earlier to me spoke about
00:27special category status which was promised on this very floor of the house.
00:34I would also have been happy if they spoke about the funds for pro-lorum project.
00:40Now in the recent budget they said the pro-lorum project is being restricted to 41.15,
00:45which translates to 30,000 crore loss. I would have been happy had they spoken about pro-lorum project.
00:51Sir, there already the central government has filed an affidavit in 2020 saying it is prerogative of the state
01:02that the selection of the capital will be. Sir, but whatever, sir, we have our concerns.
01:07I would like to raise our concerns in this bill, sir. We want them incorporated in this bill.
01:11The first thing is, sir, Amarauti is being built on the lands of farmers, sir.
01:18Sir, 34,000 acres has been given by farmers for land pooling.
01:22They have not taken one rupee. They have not taken any benefit and they gave it, sir.
01:28They were promised completely developed plots, sir. In 2015, they were promised developed plots that they will be given in
01:36two years.
01:36And they were also promised that free education for their children. They were also promised housing schemes so that they
01:43can rebuild their houses and various other promises, sir.
01:46But what happened, sir, in those five years, 5,000 crores only was spent on Amarauti, sir, from 2014 to
01:532019. It is on record, sir.
01:55And not one rupee was given and not one plot has been shown, sir. The present government is in power
02:01for the past seven years.
02:02They were in power for seven years, sir. Not one plot was given, sir. Not one plot. It is really
02:08pathetic. And the farmers are protesting right now, sir.
02:11Recently, in a government meeting, one farmer by name, Rama Rao, sir, he expresses deep anguish, sir. He said, my
02:19life is ruined.
02:20I believe the government, I gave my lands. What is my situation right now? My children are getting affected. My
02:26families are getting affected.
02:27And he lost his life in that meeting, sir. It is fact. It is there in the news also, we
02:32can see.
02:33Sir, I will tell you, sir, not one plot also was given. It is only shown on paper. And whenever
02:39they go, even Mr. Tamasani was speaking, sir.
02:42He was talking about farmers. In his very meeting, they have protested. And he said, I will get you arrested
02:47if you raise your voice.
02:48This is what has happened, sir. Sir, they are not bothered about the farmers of this state. They are not
02:54bothered about the farmers.
02:55Please, please.
02:56Not one repeat. Sir, we demand that. Sir, we demand. Why, sir, Congress Party demands that?
03:01Give a specific date when you are going to hand over the plots to the farmers.
03:05When are you going to deliver the other benefits to the farmers? We want this incorporated in the bill.
03:11Just the name Amaravati is not enough, sir.
03:13Sir, we want the benefits to the farmers. We want the plots in a particular date and particular timeline.
03:20When are you going to give these plots to the farmers? That should be incorporated in the bill.
03:23Otherwise, there is no meaning to this bill, sir.
03:27Sir, we also want to know what is the area required for building Amaravati, sir.
03:33Right now, they have taken 34,000 acres from...
03:36This is very important, sir. I want the House also to understand what is happening in Amaravati.
03:40They have taken 34,000 acres from farmers, 20,000 government land, 54,000 acres.
03:48The government is having it in its hold, sir.
03:49They want to go for a second phase for 1,75,000 acres more. That is there in the master
03:54plan.
03:55Sir, I would like to know the existing area of Amaravati is 217 square meters, sir.
04:01Sir, I would like to quote an example.
04:03Sir, Kolkata is a very beautiful city, sir.
04:06The area of Kolkata is just 51,000 acres. It has a history of hundreds of years.
04:13The area of NMDC, New Delhi Municipal Corporation, is 10,500 acres only.
04:18Sir, it has taken years and years or decades and decades to build to this level, sir.
04:24You already have 54,000 acres and it's going to cost a lot of money.
04:30According to the plan, what they have submitted, it's going to cost at least more than 2 crores, sir.
04:35And where are you going to get this money, sir? We want a clarity in this bill.
04:39How much land are you going to take for Amaravati?
04:42How much are you going to spend? This has to be incorporated, sir.
04:45It can't be like it is going to happen till infinity and you are going to pump all the money
04:49here.
04:49We want a clarity.
04:50It should be clearly mentioned how much area you are going to take and when are you going to develop
04:55this 54,000 acres?
04:56Are you going to build a city bigger than Kolkata right now?
04:59Is it possible to put money immediately and build bigger than 50,000 acres?
05:04Why are you going for the additional land acquisition?
05:06What is the need to go for additional land acquisition? That is our question, sir.
05:09Where are you going to get?
05:11Sir, recently, just two days back, Mr. Chatharabh Naid, who is our CM, spoke, sir.
05:16He said, we don't have money.
05:19The money is what we are getting in the state is enough only for salaries.
05:23And we are borrowing money to give for schemes.
05:25Sir, is there a clarity how they are going to spend for this balance of 50,000 acres and the
05:31balance 50,000 or 1,75,000 they are going to acquire?
05:34Is there any meaning to acquisition what they are going to get more?
05:38Already farmers are dying, sir, because they are not getting their plots.
05:41They are not able to send them.
05:42They are not able to use it.
05:44Sir, how is it justified to go for more land acquisition is our question.
05:50Sir, and, sir, if you see how much they have spent, Chandrima Bhunaid was in power from 2014 to 2019.
06:00He is talking of lakhs and crores, lakhs of crores.
06:02He was in absolute power, part of the NDA.
06:05He spent only 5,000 crores in that five years.
06:07And now in these two years they have been in government, they have taken and given 5,000 mobilization at
06:14once and 7,000 crores worth of bills for the works they have carried out, sir.
06:18How is it justified?
06:20How is it justified that they are going to execute in the next three years?
06:23It's not going to happen, sir.
06:25At this rate, what is going to happen?
06:26They don't have the...
06:27They have no clue where they are going to get the money.
06:30They are just...
06:31This is a diversion tactic from what is happening in the state.
06:34The state is in heavy debt, sir.
06:37Sir, in the five years YCP was in power.
06:39We borrowed 3,30,000 crores.
06:42In two years TDP is in power.
06:44They have borrowed more than 3,36,000 crores.
06:46This is a reply from the parliament.
06:47This is not what I am talking, sir.
06:49So what is happening?
06:50Where are you going to get the money for Amaravati?
06:53And, sir, what is more glaring?
06:55I am going to come to Mr. Ramesh's topic.
06:58What is more glaring, sir?
07:00I will give you an example, sir.
07:02In Delhi, in New Delhi,
07:05the MP quarters of the government buildings
07:08is costing 4,000 by the PWD.
07:11Sir, the material cost is high here.
07:13Sir, I want the house to...
07:15Please, sir, listen to this important point.
07:18It is costing 4,000 per SFT.
07:22PWD department, we have collected the data.
07:24I am ready to place the data on the table of the house, sir.
07:264,000 rupees plus is the cost.
07:28All the aggregates are high.
07:29The sand is high.
07:31The crusher thing is high.
07:33Everything is high, sir.
07:34And what is happening, sir?
07:37In Amaravati, they have called tenders for 55,000 crores, sir.
07:40I will tell you an example.
07:41Per SFT cost for more than one crore, SFT, they have called.
07:45Per SFT, per SFT is 12,000 plus.
07:48How can Delhi, the government is doing it, the government here in central government is doing
07:53for 4,000 and the same building, same thing with cheaper material, they are doing for 12,000
07:58rupees plus.
07:598,000 rupees is the difference per SFT.
08:01It's the highest in the country, sir.
08:03It is loot of public money, sir.
08:05You see, sir, one crore, one crore, more than one crore SFT, if you are spending 8,000 extra,
08:11where is this money going?
08:13That is why Mr. Ramesh is shouting, sir.
08:15He never opened his mouth for BJP.
08:17He is coming here for the contract, sir.
08:19That is why he abused us.
08:21Sir, one more thing.
08:23Please, sir, please, please, please, sir, that will not be under the contract.
08:31Sir, sir, I would like to...
08:34Midunji, Midunji, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
08:44please, please, please, please don't make any personal allegation against the members.
08:49That will not be under the contract.
08:50No, no, no, that is not fair.
08:51That is, you can, you can criticize the, you can criticize the government.
08:56You can criticize the government, not make any allegation against the members.
09:00That is not good.
09:01That will not be under the contract.
09:02Please, please withdraw the comment.
09:04Please withdraw the comment.
09:07That's why, that's why, already I'm, that's why, already, already the chair has observed
09:12that is not fair on the part of a member making a personal allegation against a member.
09:16Sir, you can criticize the government, but this is unfortunate.
09:19Please withdraw the comment.
09:20Please.
09:24Sir, that will not be on record.
09:27That will not be on record.
09:29Sir, what?
09:29No, need not, need not, need not.
09:31Sir, if you think I have made a personal record and it needs to be removed from the records,
09:36a personal remark and it needs to be removed from the records, though it is the truth,
09:41I totally go with the chair, sir.
09:43I totally go with the chair.
09:44Yes.
09:46Sir.
09:47No, no, let, let, let me, let me, let me, let me.
09:50Sir, there is no rule that you can give the same person second time.
09:54Sir.
09:55Sir.
09:57When Mr. Chandrabah Munaidu swore in as chief minister, sir,
10:03he spoke of the capital of the state,
10:06he officially declared that the area near Thiruvuru will be,
10:10as a CM, sir, he made a statement,
10:12he officially declared that area near Thiruvuru will be the capital of the state.
10:16Sir, he officially made a remark.
10:18In the meantime, they bought lands in Amaravati for 5 lakh, 10 lakhs, sir.
10:22They bought thousands of acres.
10:23Now, Krishna, when you are 10 lakhs, you can counter the argument.
10:27And after they bought the land, then they shifted the capital to Amaravati.
10:31Then he said Amaravati is the capital, sir.
10:33This is insider trading.
10:35For 5 lakh, 10 lakh rupees, they bought land and now it is costing crores.
10:40This is the whole concept of Amaravati.
10:42That is why he is after this, sir.
10:44They are not bothered about poll over them.
10:46They are not bothered about special category status.
10:48They are not bothered about the funds of the state.
10:50Only they want ratification for Amaravati.
10:53This is not fair, sir.
10:55Now, Krishna, you can counter when your time comes.
10:59Please, please, please.
11:00Sir, nothing will go on record except the observations of Amaravati.
11:07Sir, they are talking about three capitals, sir.
11:08I would like to clarify on this.
11:09I want the house also to hear, sir.
11:11They are talking about three capitals.
11:14Sir, they are talking about three capitals.
11:17I would like to say that it is a concept which they need to understand.
11:21It is not pumping the whole money of the state into one place.
11:24The whole state needs to be distributed.
11:26The whole state needs to be decentralized.
11:27Minister, please.
11:28The whole state needs to be centralized.
11:29And development should happen throughout the state.
11:31That is the concept of it, sir.
11:32Sir, the BJP, the BJP officially put a Royal Sima statement, sir.
11:41They made a statement in Royal Sima saying that Karnool will be the second capital.
11:45Then after alliance, they went.
11:46It is officially on record, sir.
11:48It is on record.
11:49It is on record.
11:50It is on record, sir.
11:51Then they went there.
11:52Sir, I would like to say that, sir, there are countries.
11:55There is South Africa.
11:57There is South Africa.
11:58There is Netherlands.
12:00There is Georgia.
12:01There are various countries in the world which follow this policy, sir.
12:05They have a capital.
12:06But they want to develop other places also.
12:09Sir, they have multiple capital things.
12:11And if they are not able to understand this whole thing of developing the whole state,
12:16then we can't do anything, sir.
12:19Because their focus is so much centered around their lands in Amaravati.
12:24So they can't understand this concept of developing the whole state.
12:28Sir, this, just putting the name and bringing it to Parliament is of no use, sir.
12:39We want our concerns, the farmers' interest to be protected, the amount in this bill,
12:48the amount of what we require for Amaravati, the land, what you are going to do,
12:53what is your plan with definite timelines, and we want this camp to be brought, sir.
12:57This bill in this present state is no use to the people of our state.
13:01So we oppose this, because we oppose this bill in the present form,
13:06though we are not against Amaravati or any other part in the state.
13:10Though we are not against Amaravati or not, we are against this bill in this present form, sir.
13:16This is, we are, we are against this bill in this present form.
13:19And we are going to make a walkout, sir, because this bill is hopeless and there's nothing in this.
13:23Thank you, sir.
13:25Shri Dharmendra Yadav ji.
13:33Dhannibad Sabhapati ji.
13:36May apnei party, Samajwadi party.
13:40Apnei neta rani akhresi adh...
13:428 second, 8 second, wait a minute, wait a minute.
13:44Ramesh ji, Ramesh ji, he has made, he has made a personal observation, I will, one second.
13:52He has made a personal allegation against you.
13:55I have already ruled that, that will not be on the record.
13:58A matter which is not on record, why should you counter?
14:01And also, he has also withdrawn it.
14:03Please.
14:04No need of a personal explanation.
14:06Because that is unfair.
14:07The chair has already ruled, and he has also withdrawn.
14:11So, there is no need of any explanation.
14:13A matter which is not on record.
14:15Yes, Dharmendra Yadav ji.
14:17Achy, Achy, Achy.
14:19Both.
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