00:00Nomi, just from your experience, what do you make of Donald Trump's diplomatic strategy and tactics?
00:07Because at the moment, we really see him ramping up the rhetoric as he tries to squeeze Iran to get
00:13some kind of deal.
00:15But I don't know how Iran is going to be reacting to this, especially when it comes to trust between
00:22the different parties at play here.
00:24Well, you hit the nail on the head. There is no trust.
00:27And that is very, very problematic because both twice now during the negotiations, when negotiations were very serious and a
00:36deal was almost reached, Trump decided to launch war.
00:39First, in June and during the in June of last year, 2025, and then on the 28th of February of
00:47this year, only two days after the chief mediator at the time,
00:53the foreign minister of Oman had announced that very, very serious progress has been made.
00:59He even flew to Washington the next day, the day before the attack started, to try to persuade the American,
01:07the White Houses of the American leadership that the this is really an opportunity here for peace.
01:13But I think the decision had already been made that the U.S. and Israel were going to attack on
01:18Saturday, the 28th of April.
01:20So there is no trust. And that is a very, very serious problem.
01:24I'm not sure that I would call the president's the president of the U.S. tactics the diplomatic.
01:30I think he's anything but diplomatic. He negotiates like a bully, like a real estate negotiator.
01:37He has not got the experience of a negotiating team behind him that knows how to deal with Iran.
01:52Iranians are very, very experienced negotiators and they have a different style of negotiation.
01:59So we really are seeing a huge clash here. And that is why this is absolutely vital that third parties
02:07like Pakistan, like Turkey and other states mediate behind the scenes.
02:13I think the less that is said about the mediation, the better.
02:16But the fact that, you know, Iran denied that there were negotiations for so long was because of the U
02:24.S. president's style.
02:25You do not leak, you know, when there's a back channel, you don't divulge any information about the nature and
02:31scope of the negotiations.
02:32And ideally, you don't even say that any negotiations are taking place.
02:36So whereas the U.S. president makes everything public, it makes it much, much more difficult to negotiate, much more
02:43difficult.
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