00:00Well, the phone was stolen. It was reported to the police.
00:04There's a transcript of the call in which Morgan McSweeney gives his name, his date of birth, the details of
00:10the phone.
00:10And the police confirm that it was reported.
00:13And the idea that somehow everybody could have seen that sometime in the future there would be a request for
00:19the phone is, to my mind, a little bit far-fetched.
00:22The problem is that the timings are unfortunate. That's why it does feel like a cover-up.
00:27Peter Mandelson was sacked on the 11th of September. Morgan McSweeney's phone was stolen on the 20th of October.
00:32There were 70,000 phone thefts in London last year. It is entirely feasible that his phone was stolen.
00:38It's quite a far-fetched conspiracy. I'm afraid I'm with the Prime Minister on this.
00:42To imagine that Morgan McSweeney deliberately had his phone fake stolen on October the 20th to avoid having to release
00:48some documents because of a humble address that was coming in February.
00:51I mean, the guy's clever, but I don't think he's quite that clever. It's not beyond the realms of possibility
00:55that this was not just an ordinary crime.
00:57But the Prime Minister said at the end of his statement there, who could have known that there would be
01:01a future request for this phone that would eventually become relevant?
01:05I just think that is quite naive in the context of government communications and various inquiries that ever happened.
01:11People do take quite careful care with how they communicate.
01:14And to be honest, if it's really sensitive, they're not even using WhatsApp. They're using Signal.
01:18Yeah, or just sign language or written on post-its or whatever.
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