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Beyond Chelsea Season 2 Episode 1
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00:01¿Cómo estás?
00:05¡Hola!
00:07¡Tienes tú!
00:09¿Cómo estás?
00:10¿Cómo estás?
00:10¡Oh, la bestia de la serie!
00:12¡Has dicho tú!
00:13¿Has dicho sobre mi nuevo negocio con mi hermana?
00:15¡Los de mi hermana!
00:18¡Unaceptable!
00:19¿Cómo se llama M&S?
00:20¿La de la clase de niños?
00:21¿Es concierto?
00:23¡Sí!
00:23¡Sí!
00:24¡Logos, mi face!
00:27¡London's burning!
00:28¿Qué ha hecho?
00:28¿Qué has she done?
00:31This is...
00:32There's your hallway.
00:33I'm having quite a good time.
00:34Dating at the moment.
00:36Have you packed anyone?
00:38I'm not.
00:41I can't believe it's the first time in five and a half months
00:44that we've gone for dinner.
00:47It's a lot to witness.
00:49Watching someone you obviously love so much
00:53deteriorate so quickly.
00:57I'm dating someone.
00:58There's something I can't, like,
01:00figure out with her. She's quite cold.
01:02I don't know if I've got the gene or not, but you said
01:04I possibly could have the gene.
01:06I thought I'd bump into you more and pass the screen.
01:08I've just been busy, just working.
01:10Very nice. Yeah.
01:11I find it quite strenuous to be mentally engaged by her.
01:15When there isn't an issue, I won't make an issue,
01:17whereas you will bang your head against the wall
01:18until you can create an issue.
01:25I'm feeling like the kings of life.
01:33It's quiet.
01:35It's quiet.
01:37How would we describe my last year?
01:40Hectic.
01:41Chaotic.
01:42A lot has happened.
01:43We're living in a fucking dump.
01:45A lot hasn't happened as well.
01:46Got to get the stone installed.
01:48We don't need running water.
01:49They haven't done those plugs.
01:50We've been renovating and trying to create our dream home.
01:54We may as well have just knocked the entire building down
01:57and rebuilt it at this point.
01:59What about this?
02:00You're not even joking.
02:02It's got to learn one day, hasn't it?
02:04Motherhood is a roller coaster.
02:06Highs and lows is the best way to describe it, I think.
02:09You can't just have bread like this, baby.
02:12But equally.
02:14He's so cute.
02:16I just love him so much.
02:18I'm plain.
02:18Plain!
02:22Come on, chicken pox man.
02:23Time to get changed.
02:25Are you itchy today?
02:27I've just turned 35.
02:29It is officially my birthday month.
02:30We've just been to Ibiza with a bunch of friends.
02:33Mommy's got to stop getting you changed in the morning
02:35because you're a big boy now.
02:36You're four.
02:37Max, in and out the country.
02:39Three kids.
02:41Obviously, Pedro.
02:42That's what I've done.
02:43I've moved house.
02:45Yay!
02:47Join the bundle!
02:48There's no dull moment in the Belsa Darden household.
02:52I love it like that.
02:56I can't believe it's extensions just look so natural.
02:58Honestly, the best decision I've ever made in my life.
03:02This last year, I have done a lot of travelling.
03:07Going to lovely restaurants, eating good food, lots of martinis.
03:11I really genuinely enjoy what I do, the jewellery and bagged.
03:15You know, I don't switch off when I leave the office at five.
03:18I'm always working the evenings and the weekends,
03:20but I definitely say I'm in my prime.
03:23I'm not high-maintenance, but I like to dress well,
03:26and I think if you leave the house looking like shit,
03:29you're going to feel like shit all day.
03:40My sister and my dad are going to be here soon, James.
03:43We're falling!
03:43Come on in!
03:44James?
03:46Come on in!
03:47No!
03:50Help!
03:52Because of the sheer amount of stress
03:54and everything that's been going on,
03:57it's been a hard chapter for Lucy and James.
04:00We've been bickering more.
04:02What are you saying? They won't approve?
04:04Well, I just kind of, like, it's already a shit hole.
04:06I kind of want to set it up and make it look nice.
04:08Can you polish a turd, my friend?
04:09Exactly, I know.
04:10So why bother?
04:15Hello, Dad.
04:16Hi.
04:16Come on in.
04:17So look at this.
04:18Donnie.
04:19This is a work of art.
04:21One of the main reasons that we moved out of London,
04:23because that was a huge decision for us,
04:25was to be closer to family.
04:27Hey, Dad!
04:28How are you doing?
04:29You are matching!
04:31Oh, I'm not sure.
04:31He's not sure, no.
04:32I think it's really important for Wilbs to have a close relationship with his grandparents,
04:38and we just feel like it's a better family environment.
04:42When will you fry your first egg, or?
04:44Oh, no, you don't need eggs.
04:45Probably not.
04:45You don't need eggs, do you?
04:47When will you cook your first meal?
04:49Um, probably in three weeks.
04:53This actually has to be ready, because my vegan recipes book, we're shooting that here.
04:57Oh, OK.
04:58So the kitchen has to be ready for that.
04:59Has to be ready for that.
05:00Because I can't let the publishers down.
05:02I mean, take my hat off to you and James.
05:05I mean, living through all this.
05:06It's testing.
05:06It's testing.
05:07It is physically and mentally exhausting.
05:10And sometimes you just want to be able to shut your mind off.
05:13You can't do that around your child, because there's hazards here, there and everywhere.
05:17So we're both kind of gasping for breath, and we're both just like,
05:21when can I have my time?
05:22And it's a constant argument at the moment.
05:26Hello.
05:27Hello.
05:28Come on in.
05:29Oh, who's coming?
05:30Hi, guys.
05:31Hi.
05:31Hi.
05:32Hello.
05:34Hello.
05:35Hello.
05:36Hi, Jude.
05:38Look at those gorgeous eyes.
05:39You literally forget how small they are.
05:41Tiny.
05:41He didn't have his eyes open, did he, before?
05:43No.
05:43No, he was asleep the whole time.
05:44He was asleep the whole time.
05:45Do you think this is your, like, forever home?
05:46I hope so.
05:47We've just done, you know, we've done it all.
05:49And it will be worth it in the end, won't it?
05:54It will be.
05:55Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.
06:09Hey!
06:10¡Hola!
06:12¡Hola, baby girl!
06:13¡Oh, I meant a double kiss!
06:15¡Oh!
06:16¡That is so unfair!
06:19¡Oh, it's nice and clean in here!
06:20It's a bit smelly, isn't it?
06:22Oli is one of the first best mates I've ever had.
06:25He can be a pain in the arse and drive me mad,
06:27but he is like a brother to me.
06:29Do you remember when you gave me my first,
06:31one of my first driving lessons around here?
06:33Yes, it was absolutely disastrous.
06:35Lennox Gardens, I remember it very well,
06:37and my Union Jack Jaguar.
06:38I think it worked quite well, actually.
06:39I think it was absolutely disastrous.
06:42Absolutely terrifying.
06:44Great.
06:45If we can try and survive this journey,
06:46it would be lovely.
06:48Well, I have been enjoying chicken pox recently.
06:50Oh, no, don't.
06:51Wolfie came down with it just after his birthday.
06:54Then India came down with Wilder the same day,
06:57a week after Wolfie had got them.
06:58Apparently, the more children you have and it goes down,
07:01the worse it gets.
07:02So Wilder's been...
07:03I mean, his little face is covered.
07:05By the way, don't look at my eyebrows.
07:07Johannes is on some retreat.
07:08Oh, my God!
07:12Half of them have gone.
07:13They haven't.
07:14Oh, they've gone.
07:15They've only got half an eyebrow.
07:16Oh, my God.
07:17Look in the mirror.
07:18No, what?
07:18You've only got half an eyebrow.
07:19Look at the side here.
07:20It's completely gone.
07:22Well, I don't know what's going on.
07:23Johannes needs to come back from our silly retreat.
07:25You're looking pretty good.
07:27You want it for a bit of a rogue stage.
07:28Yeah.
07:29Again, it was after COVID.
07:30I put on weight.
07:31And then, darling...
07:32Then, lovely, a Zen pic popped into your little fridge.
07:34Oh, God!
07:35A Zen pic was made.
07:38Because I couldn't lose that on my own.
07:39I don't want to go to a fucking gym, do I?
07:42Boring Zen.
07:43I'm really going to come for me to wait now.
07:46Play around.
07:46Eat a stand-up.
07:47Will you be laid down?
07:48Going ape shit.
07:48Dropping balls like a playground.
07:50Everybody wanna rap.
07:51I can see the same time.
07:52There's lots to do, but...
07:54It's going to be amazing.
07:55It will hopefully be worth it.
07:57What?
07:58What?
08:00You gonna go out and play with Willoughby?
08:03Bye.
08:04They say, like, moving house and divorce
08:07are the most trustful things.
08:08Yeah.
08:08I think it's just put a massive strain on us.
08:10Like, I miss us.
08:11Yeah.
08:11What I've been suggesting is going and speaking to a therapist.
08:15Oh, really?
08:16Which I think he's, like, terrified by the idea.
08:18It's got to that stage.
08:20So this will be your first fully vegan barbecue?
08:22Uh, I think so, yeah.
08:24Yeah, I'm really...
08:24Laughed?
08:25Really...
08:25No, no, you should never say that.
08:27Really looking forward to it.
08:28Thank you.
08:29And how are you, um, you know, barbecuing aside, how's it been?
08:33Quite stressful would be an understatement.
08:34Obviously when you've got a baby to look after.
08:37Yep.
08:37Lucy's obviously still very busy.
08:39So not much quality time?
08:40No, not really.
08:42We've definitely realised that we go from zero to a hundred quite quickly.
08:46I don't like the way that we speak to each other when we're angry.
08:49I've got a child around.
08:51Like, I don't want him picking up that energy.
08:52Lucy's been, um, banging on about that we need to go to therapy.
08:56Right.
08:57I've said many times that I wouldn't go.
08:59Right.
09:00Because there is no problem.
09:01There is no problem in our marriage.
09:02But if she feels the necessity to go and you are slightly reluctant, then that could
09:10create its own problem, I guess.
09:11Because I see it as you can pick anybody in the world and you're going to be stressed under
09:15this scenario.
09:16Yeah, of course.
09:17I don't know if James is going to come.
09:19Every time I brought it up with him, he's like, I'm not coming.
09:22Really?
09:24Because I'm a product of divorced parents, I have seen where arguments and bickering
09:31can lead.
09:32His parents have been together for 30 plus years and he doesn't have the experience of
09:37a broken family that I have.
09:39So he doesn't necessarily relate to me on that level.
09:45What a face.
09:46What's the review on the vegan burger?
09:48Not bad.
09:49Is that nice, Wilbs?
09:52It's a big burger for a little baby.
09:54Gosh, isn't it?
09:55James Lucy was telling me about the therapy.
09:58Do you think you're going to go?
09:59Why don't we just wait until the builders have gone and then we'll see?
10:03Because they're not going to be gone for another six months.
10:05I think if the builders are going to be here for another six months, then probably no harm.
10:10Sorry, James, but...
10:11I thought we bonded over that vegan barbecue.
10:14Well, we did bond.
10:15You've done me dirty.
10:16To the extent I now feel comfortable about giving you some father-in-law advice.
10:20Dad never went to therapy, did you?
10:22Well, let's not go.
10:24This isn't about me.
10:25You seem to have crawled back into your shell.
10:28I think I would love you to come, but I don't want you to come kicking and screaming.
10:46Hello.
10:47Hello.
10:49Oh, you look fab.
10:50I absolutely adore Binky.
10:53She's so much fun.
10:54She's so kind.
10:55She doesn't make being a mother her whole personality.
10:59And for me, that is so special to spend time with people that are in different eras of their
11:06life without it being the only thing that they can talk about.
11:12What have you been up to?
11:14I have my birthday.
11:15Yeah, I know.
11:15I can't wait to celebrate you.
11:17And we're having our luncheat.
11:18Max isn't going to be there.
11:19He left for New York this morning at 5am.
11:21Oh, God.
11:22He's hovering over me to try and give me a kiss at 5am.
11:24I was like, ugh, freaked out.
11:25This was the face of my face.
11:27But I think Lucy's coming.
11:29You're coming.
11:30You're coming.
11:32I actually can't remember the last time I saw Lucy.
11:34It was ages ago.
11:35But, you know, the phone works both ways.
11:39How's your mummy?
11:41Mummy's good.
11:42Good.
11:43And the kids are all happy.
11:44I miss that.
11:45Well, we should get you over.
11:46Yes, I must.
11:47Aunty Roro.
11:48And Aunty Roro getting any saying to action at the moment?
11:53I'm dating someone.
11:55Okay.
11:56I met him really randomly.
11:58Okay.
11:58I was in St Pancras getting the Eurostar to Paris to visit a couple of friends.
12:02I was queuing for my matcher in Pret.
12:04I was wearing a grey outfit.
12:06This girl came up to me.
12:07She had a baby in a carrier.
12:09She had a Birkin 35 on her arm with loads of charms.
12:12And she said to me, I need to know where your outfit's from.
12:16We got chatting.
12:17We have loads of mutual friends on Instagram.
12:19She's French but lives in London.
12:22And she said, I can't believe you're single.
12:23I have someone to set you up with.
12:25Come to my Shabbat dinner in two weeks' time.
12:27Stop it.
12:27And I went.
12:28And I met him there.
12:30He didn't actually realise that it was a set-up.
12:33So I'd seen the pictures, so I recognised him in the room.
12:35And we just chatted all night.
12:37The next day, he had messaged the girl that hosted the dinner
12:41and said, who was that girl?
12:42She was amazing.
12:43I definitely let my walls down.
12:45And he deserved to see me with my walls down.
12:49It just felt like, you know, there were no barriers.
12:54How long has this been going for?
12:55I don't know, a couple of months.
12:57Oh, my God.
12:58So you've obviously seen everything and done everything
13:00and it's all going well, tickety-boo.
13:02It's all great.
13:02Everything works?
13:03Yeah, everything's working.
13:05Oh, great!
13:06You always try before you buy.
13:07Don't go straight, do you?
13:08You don't shag anymore anyway, so it's fine.
13:11No, I don't really.
13:12Poor Gareth.
13:13Do you send nudes?
13:14I've got my own willy on my phone.
13:15Who do you send it to?
13:16I've never sent it to anyone.
13:17You just take it for what?
13:18The memories?
13:19It's to remember what it used to be like.
13:21What it looks like.
13:22They don't shrink, though, do they?
13:23True.
13:23I'm 40 in a year.
13:25You do look very good, though.
13:26I think boys get better at their age, don't they?
13:27I've got endo lift on Friday.
13:29I've had that.
13:30Is it good?
13:30I won't tell you what's involved,
13:32because you probably won't turn up.
13:33But growing old gracefully, though.
13:34I know.
13:35God.
13:36Forget it.
13:36Fuck that.
14:02There you go, Mama.
14:04Oh, well done.
14:05Thank you.
14:05What can I get you?
14:06Anything from this selection?
14:07What?
14:08Is that cheese in the thing?
14:09It is cheese.
14:10And what type of cheese?
14:11Uh, really nice cheese.
14:14Oh, right, lovely.
14:15That's near enough.
14:18How about the chickens?
14:22I'm sorry.
14:23I'm sorry about the chickens.
14:24I mean, of course you got her chickens.
14:28Yes, because she asked me for them.
14:30So for India's birthday, two presents from Gaga rocked up.
14:35One of them was 12 eggs.
14:37And we thought, oh, that's amazing.
14:39Mummy's bought her a cake baking kit.
14:41Opened the second present, and it was a bloody incubator.
14:48Max was far from impressed.
14:51Nope.
14:53There he is.
14:54It would be good to see him.
14:55I haven't seen him for ages.
14:57No, thank you.
15:00Hello, plum.
15:01Hello.
15:03Take those ghastly shoes off your feet immediately.
15:05Where are they from?
15:06Are they from Gucci, by any chance?
15:08Since they're Gucci.
15:10Hello, handsome boy.
15:11Take them off, then.
15:12I don't know where you've been on those bloody pavements in London.
15:16What?
15:16Quite.
15:17What?
15:18Oh, no.
15:19Hello, mother.
15:20You having champagne?
15:21No.
15:22I'll get you a glass.
15:22It's sparkling wine.
15:26I'm a little bit baffled about what's going on in your ear right now.
15:29I'm not sure I'm liking it particularly.
15:30Yeah, that is something.
15:31Now, I had rather a boozy lunch yesterday.
15:34Curl surprise.
15:37And accidentally ended up going to get an ear piercing.
15:41Two.
15:41Well, no, because I wanted it lower, and then I had to have another one.
15:45Why is it infected already?
15:46It's not infected.
15:46What are you talking about?
15:47It's very, very crusty at the moment.
15:48I just had it done yesterday.
15:50Very red as well.
15:50When I walked in, I thought immediately how good they look.
15:52I'll take them out when I realise that I'm not 25 anymore.
15:59Mummy and Ollie, they've got a lovely bond.
16:01They've known each other for over 15 years.
16:03So, when we are all together, it does feel like he's family.
16:07Well, I'm very much looking forward to my birthday lunch.
16:10I just can't believe you're this age already, darling.
16:13Another five years and I'm 40.
16:15Oh, my God.
16:16Don't tell anyone, will you?
16:18Obviously, this one's coming.
16:19You're coming.
16:20Lucy and Rosie.
16:22Do they get along?
16:23I think so.
16:24Yeah.
16:25I don't see them getting along.
16:26I don't see the two of them as being a match.
16:29They're so different.
16:29But possibly.
16:30I think they're quite similar.
16:31In some ways.
16:32Well, either way, they're going to be gorgeous.
16:34Yeah.
16:34If they're a few punch-ups, there's so much better.
16:36There'll be no punch-ups.
16:37I know.
16:38Wouldn't it be wonderful?
16:40So much fun.
16:54Are you excited?
16:56I'm so excited.
16:58You're the reason we're here.
17:00I know.
17:00I know.
17:00Sorry.
17:00I couldn't believe that James agreed to go to couples therapy.
17:04It was...
17:05I honestly thought it was a battle that I was never going to win.
17:10Hi.
17:11Hello.
17:12Would you like to come through?
17:13Yes, sure.
17:13Follow me, please.
17:15I felt like until we actually sat down with someone,
17:19he was going to keep avoiding the subject.
17:21So I really need a professional opinion.
17:25The session is going to be an hour long.
17:27It's a lot of therapizing.
17:29Therapy.
17:31It's a lot.
17:32The question is, what brings you to therapy?
17:35Okay.
17:36James and I have definitely bickered and argued more
17:39over the last probably 12 months than ever before.
17:42My perspective is the last year has been quite mental for us,
17:48as in we've moved into a building site.
17:51It's just short-term shit, which we'll soon be out of,
17:56and it'll all be rosy.
17:57The way that we speak to each other is not conducive for a happy and healthy relationship long-term.
18:02You'd like things to be better.
18:04Yeah, I would.
18:05When there isn't an issue, I won't make an issue,
18:07whereas you will bang your head against the wall until you can create an issue.
18:11James would never choose to address an issue.
18:14I think he just thinks, in time, said issue will just go away.
18:18And I am very confrontational.
18:20I like to address things head on.
18:23And I think sometimes that can be a bit exhausting for him.
18:26Maybe he thinks I'm making things into a bigger deal than they are.
18:29What have you heard him express?
18:32It's more work-related stuff.
18:34Like, why do you need to have this meeting today?
18:37Why do you need to have that Zoom call?
18:38I don't question that.
18:39Okay.
18:40Okay, so...
18:40You have said to me with meetings and stuff that I take the piss.
18:44Sometimes you do.
18:45But when it's work...
18:47I don't say it when it's work.
18:49Lucy.
18:49You do your drinks.
19:01Warfreck.
19:03Stop eating all the crisps, you cheeky boy.
19:07You cheeky...
19:09Now I'm 35.
19:11That's made me aware that we are getting older.
19:15And I'm a mother.
19:16I have responsibility to make sure I'm keeping an eye on my health
19:20and making sure I'm there for as long as possible for them.
19:22You gonna give me a kiss?
19:24My prince.
19:25My prince.
19:26I love you so much.
19:28As soon as you push out that first baby,
19:30you are no longer your priority.
19:32You are, like, back of the queue.
19:35So what I have organised is for me to go and speak to someone
19:37about MS.
19:39I don't know if I've got the gene or not, but you said I possibly
19:42could have the gene.
19:43Well, only that I have and my aunt had.
19:45Yeah.
19:46So we both...
19:46And I don't know if it is a gene, darling.
19:48This is why I'm going, because I have no idea about anything.
19:50I'm thrilled you're doing it.
19:51I'd like to talk to someone about it.
19:53Yeah, agreed.
19:54Would you like me to come with you?
19:56If you'd like to.
19:56My mum's always been very keen for me to keep an eye on my health,
20:03the order I'm getting.
20:04She would watch me from a young age falling over or complain about my knees.
20:10She'd see things that I did which would remind her what she used to do.
20:15So I've always been very in tune with getting my health checked.
20:19And it just makes you sleep better at night.
20:23Oh!
20:24Hello.
20:24You just snuck in.
20:26How's it going?
20:27Oh, that looks like a big tool.
20:29It's...
20:30It is a big tool, yeah.
20:31My missus Henry.
20:32Hello.
20:32Nice to meet you.
20:33Hi, Henry.
20:34I'm a very firm gardener.
20:36Lovely to meet you, darling.
20:37Yes.
20:37Lovely to see you, Henry.
20:39It was gorgeous.
20:40Actually, so is he gorgeous, wasn't he?
20:43I mean, what the fuck was that?
20:44I know.
20:45Right up my strass.
20:47It's even better in the heat.
20:49I can imagine.
20:50Better in the heat.
20:51I'm a married man.
20:51I'm a married man.
20:52It's gorgeous.
20:53This garden has got some amazing trees and plants in.
20:56Mature garden.
20:57It's a great...
20:58That's where you're so fortunate.
20:59Have you got a mature garden?
21:03Um...
21:03Oh, Ollie.
21:05I knew I couldn't talk to you.
21:07I know when you look at me like that, I know it's always dangerous.
21:11No.
21:12You haven't at all grown up, have you, really?
21:15No, sorry.
21:15No.
21:16Yes, I have a very mature garden.
21:18Oh, I don't want to hear about it.
21:19I've seen it so many times.
21:21No.
21:22No, they've gone now.
21:23There's only...
21:24There's only time left.
21:26Mummy!
21:29Fuck, I love life sometimes.
21:33I don't want to think too hard.
21:36Just ride the wave above the water.
21:38You guys are coming from opposite ends of the spectrum.
21:42OK.
21:42This is about kind of attachment theory.
21:44There's usually one person that's a bit avoidantly attached and they're called avoidant dismissive.
21:49And then the other person is anxiously attached.
21:52So this is very, very standard.
21:54They tend to pair up.
21:55Are they compatible?
21:56I've lured in an anxious clinger and I can't get rid of it.
21:58I've lured in a dismissive...
22:00Got a big old anxious clinger in the net.
22:02Douche.
22:02OK, well...
22:04You know, one person is more relaxed, feels quite safe and secure in the whole thing.
22:09But the other person is to feel nervous about even slight things.
22:13If you can have empathy for that and if you can react with kind of maybe gentleness and reassurance and
22:21holding.
22:22I think that I...
22:24Exactly.
22:26Exactly.
22:26My little anxious clinger, come here.
22:29That kind of thing would go a long way.
22:32OK.
22:32Do you know what I mean?
22:33Yeah.
22:34I think I'm quite an affectionate person.
22:37I know it sounds not like me, but when I'm with someone I'm very affectionate and I'm very caring.
22:42So if I've gone to bed and we haven't even hugged that day, I'm like, oh, I think I need
22:46that intimacy.
22:47Yeah, I think it's more important to me than it is to him.
22:51If you go and, you know, give a kiss, give a cuddle from behind, and that's your act of smoothing
22:57things over.
22:58She likes the sound of that.
23:00Clearing the air.
23:01Because that would feel good, right?
23:03Yeah.
23:04If something happened.
23:04Sometimes I just...
23:05That would go a long way, right?
23:06He's not awful to me by any means, but if he says harsh, snappy things, he doesn't seem to feel
23:11bad about it at all.
23:12Yeah, OK, I get that.
23:13I don't even feel like I even mean it.
23:16So it's kind of just like...
23:17Nothing.
23:18But James, those little feelings are the reason why you guys have been brought here today.
23:23Yeah, I get that.
23:24Build up of those little, little feelings.
23:26OK.
23:27I'll come and give you a little cuddle.
23:30It wouldn't hurt.
23:32It sounds like you guys are just squeezed in all directions. Your lives have changed.
23:39Navigating that change is kind of where we're at.
23:41Yeah.
23:46Yeah.
23:56The thought of having MS obviously is worrying.
24:00It's a horrific disease and my mum is having a terrible time with it. And I'm hoping by going to
24:06this meeting, I gain more insight and just learn more about the disease.
24:13I'm Bal Athwal. I'm a neurologist and hopefully I'll be able to speak to you about the condition and what
24:20to look for.
24:21OK, great. Thank you.
24:22So multiple sclerosis we think of as an inflammatory disease primarily of the central nervous system. We're learning more and
24:30more about it as the years go by, but unfortunately we still don't fully understand what causes the condition.
24:36But then I guess what signs? I trip up occasionally and I don't really know what, I guess, signs to
24:44look out for.
24:44Let's say that you developed a sensory change in your legs.
24:49OK.
24:50And that sensory change evolved and got worse over hours, perhaps a couple of days, and then it kind of
24:56seems to stabilise and then it gradually goes away.
24:59We will quite frequently as neurologists be asked to see patients, particularly young women, who have sensory symptoms or might
25:08be feeling clumsy.
25:09And there's often this concern, could this person have MS? Most of the time that doesn't come to anything.
25:15OK. Most of the time we can reassure.
25:18Having seen it firsthand with my mother, I'd hate for my children to have to see me go through the
25:23same thing as I've had to see my mum go through.
25:25There is a genetic link, but it's a very weak genetic link so far as we know.
25:31OK.
25:31So if you've got a first degree family relative, meaning sister, brother, mother, that kind of thing, then your chances
25:37are higher, but they're still quite low.
25:39OK. All right. Well, that's all sounding pretty good to me.
25:43I'm thrilled a bit.
25:44Yeah.
25:44I'm very grateful that we've seen you, please that we've seen you.
25:47To be told that the chances of us having MS were quite low, I was obviously very relieved.
25:54I do feel like a weight has been lifted.
25:56MUSIC
26:06MUSIC
26:07MUSIC
26:10MUSIC
26:10MUSIC
26:12MUSIC
26:13MUSIC
26:18Ah, such a little adventure out of London. It really makes a difference, doesn't it?
26:22It really does, especially in this weather.
26:23Oh, heaven, how beautiful does this look?
26:25Oh, I can't wait.
26:27Love coming here.
26:30MUSIC
26:30MUSIC
26:34What's left to do?
26:35So we've just got the bead in around the top to run around.
26:37Handles.
26:38OK.
26:39And painting.
26:39I'm shooting the cover of my book in here on the 14th.
26:43I think it'll be ready by then.
26:44I would have thought so, yeah.
26:45That's all I care about.
26:46Literally, that it's ready for them.
26:49MUSIC
26:55Right, time to oil up.
26:58Ooh!
27:00Are you tight anywhere?
27:03Everywhere.
27:06LAUGHTER
27:09So silly.
27:11I do feel like Rosie does bring out that kind of naughtier, filthier side of me.
27:16Mummy friends might be a little bit too serious and talking about grades at school or someone's football team.
27:24And actually, you just want to talk about blowjobs.
27:27LAUGHTER
27:31Well, that, my bear cub, wasn't heaven.
27:33Wasn't that heaven?
27:34Oh, the dream.
27:35She got right in there.
27:36Oh, did she?
27:37Right in there.
27:38Did you get the happy ending that I paid extra for?
27:40Is that why I got it?
27:42Oh, my God.
27:43Thanks, babe.
27:44Nice little birthday treaty.
27:46LAUGHTER
27:47I think if you don't know Rosie very well, Rosie's honesty can be a bit much.
27:52But it is one of the reasons why I love her.
27:54I've actually just started getting something called PRP on my hair.
27:58I'm just on this hair journey and I want the thickest hair possible.
28:01Babes, I mean, I lent you some of mine.
28:03I've got it all over.
28:03I know, you're so lucky.
28:04I've got it all over the shop.
28:05Oh, you have got it all over the shop, babe.
28:06No!
28:07I've seen it.
28:08So what is it?
28:09Sorry.
28:09So it's...
28:10They take the plasma out, they take your blood, they separate the plasma from your blood
28:14and then they...
28:15I don't know whether I'm getting this wrong.
28:17And they inject back into your scalp and it's meant to be really good for hair growth.
28:22I think I look pretty good for 35 and I want to live a long life.
28:26I want to be healthy and, you know, look decent.
28:30What's the point in living until 90 if you look like shit?
28:33How's things with you, babe?
28:35Everything going well with the man.
28:39So...
28:40We've slightly put it on pause.
28:46Oh, babe, I'm sorry.
28:47You know what?
28:48It's really difficult.
28:49He is so special and the most amazing person I've ever met.
28:58He is a solo father.
29:00Yeah.
29:00So it's kind of a new avenue for me as well.
29:04And I think...
29:06He wasn't expecting to meet me.
29:08And I think for now we're just going to take a bit of time and...
29:13See.
29:14Put it on the back burner for a bit.
29:15Mm-hmm.
29:20I don't have the strength to actually, like, speak to anyone else,
29:23but I don't want to close the doors to him.
29:26Let's just see what happens.
29:27Okay.
29:27From what you've told me already, he sounds like a decent man.
29:30He's not going to mess you around.
29:33It sounds like he's doing a decent thing by being honest now.
29:35Yeah, yeah.
29:36When it gets too serious.
29:37Yeah, absolutely.
29:37I just...
29:39Yeah.
29:41He's...
29:41He is different to anyone I've met before
29:45and I really just admire everything about him
29:48and he's a fucking amazing father
29:51and he makes me feel seen like I've never been seen before.
29:56It's like we really get each other, so...
29:58Amazing.
29:59Let's see.
30:00To see someone be such an incredible father made me think,
30:05you know, if that was something for us in our future,
30:07he would be an incredible father to my children.
30:10And it was kind of the respect that we had for each other
30:13that we realised that, like, now, unfortunately, it's not our time.
30:18Yeah.
30:19Things will happen if they're meant to happen.
30:21I've always believed in that.
30:22Yeah, definitely.
30:23And you've just got to remember that as well.
30:24Yeah.
30:39I know you've moved the country.
30:41We don't have to be, like, three hours late.
30:43Oh, my God, I'm so sorry.
30:45I do.
30:45I'm so sorry.
30:46I'm joking.
30:47Roll it up.
30:48Fly like a mother.
30:50Yeah.
30:51You think I came from another...
30:53Gorgeous.
30:54Nice.
30:55Drawing it back up using that four count.
30:57Gonna hold it down now.
30:59Good.
30:59Hold it.
30:59Shoulders down away from those ears.
31:01Ribs in.
31:01You're chilling.
31:02You're in your happy place.
31:03You're anywhere but here, probably.
31:04You're on holiday.
31:05Good.
31:05You're breathing.
31:09What do you normally go for in here?
31:11I love the, um, steel-cut oat porridge.
31:15Which is so boring.
31:16Porridge.
31:17And the, um, avocado toaster stick's got crispy chickpeas.
31:20It's delightful.
31:21Mmm.
31:21What do you want?
31:22I'm gonna go for something like the baked eggs.
31:25Right.
31:26With a little bit of lamb on the side.
31:28Oh, my God.
31:29Ew.
31:30You're such an antagonist, aren't you?
31:32You just love winding me up in life.
31:34I think he does get away with murder with me
31:36because there are certain things that she does
31:38or she tries to wind me up and I'm like,
31:40if this was anyone else...
31:43I wonder how you're gonna find living in the country.
31:46Everyone says, good morning.
31:48How are you?
31:48Are you the kind of person that says,
31:49good morning to everyone on a dog walk?
31:51That's James.
31:52Good morning.
31:52Yes, I do actually,
31:53because they're very smiley.
31:55And I'm just like...
31:56I won't ask them how they are,
31:57or I don't really care.
31:58But I'd say, good morning, at least.
31:59Mmm.
32:00I can see that in you.
32:01Or I'd say, sorry, excuse me,
32:02your dog's done a poo.
32:04Are you that person?
32:06Are you that person?
32:07I'm joking, are you not?
32:08Are you that person?
32:09I don't want the dog poo where my kids play
32:11and not tell them to pick it up.
32:12No, obviously I pick it up,
32:13but what I hate is when the poo is still coming out.
32:16No, no, no, I won't do that.
32:16And someone goes,
32:18let me get the bag out of my fucking pocket, please.
32:21I ate poo when I was a child.
32:23Did you?
32:25My mum caught me eating dog shit.
32:27Okay.
32:28Well, that's interesting.
32:29I mean, my mum was like, sorry?
32:32How did you let that happen?
32:34Thank you.
32:35Thank you so much.
32:36It's very hot to be good.
32:36Thank you so much.
32:37That looks delicious.
32:38Anyway, I just want to hear about you
32:39because you've got a lot going on.
32:42So, James and I went to therapy.
32:44It's great.
32:45The good thing is that James and I spoke
32:47about our issues more than we ever have
32:50in a space that were quiet.
32:51In a controlled environment.
32:53What's the reason you guys went in the first place?
32:55We were just arguing so much, like, about the same things.
32:58And a lot of it was, like, arguing about our time.
33:01So, like, I'm really prioritising my career.
33:03I really want to be super successful.
33:05I want to make shit loads of money.
33:07And do you find it tricky the fact
33:08he is not going to work every day?
33:11No.
33:11You like that?
33:12I actually like it because I really want
33:14one of us to be at home with Wilbs.
33:16Does he want to do it?
33:18To be honest, a lot of the time he does say, like,
33:20can't we just put him in nursery or something like that?
33:22But part of me is like, well, what are you going to do all day?
33:25When I had India, I became a single mum quite quickly
33:30and I needed some help.
33:33Nursery was a really positive thing
33:34and it gave me some space to be me again.
33:37So, I completely understand why James
33:40feels the need to have a break from parenting.
33:42It's a lot.
33:43And although he's not working every day,
33:45you're still around a child.
33:47You can't switch off.
33:49Well, I'm very excited for your birthday.
33:51Looking forward to seeing everyone.
33:52That's going to be so nice to celebrate.
33:53Have you spoken to Rosie at all?
33:55No.
33:55You haven't?
33:56No. Not since we last filmed.
33:58What?
34:00Back in the day on Made in Chelsea,
34:02Rosie and I didn't really get on.
34:03I never really figured out why.
34:06I feel like she just kind of had a problem with me.
34:09Didn't really like me and my vibe or whatever.
34:13And any opportunity that she got to have a little pop at me,
34:16she was right there, ready.
34:18I kind of feel like I am at a place where I'm happy to be friendly.
34:24And I have to say most of the time I don't feel like it's reciprocated.
34:29I feel like she has zero interest in my life
34:32and very little interest in being friendly and polite.
34:35There's something I can't, like, figure out with her.
34:39She's quite cold.
34:40I know I'm cold too.
34:41But I don't know if it's that she just doesn't like me.
34:46I don't think she doesn't like you.
34:47What do you think it is?
34:49I don't know.
34:50I do feel like I am slightly in the middle between Lucy and Rosie.
34:53I honestly thought things were going pretty well last year,
34:56but it does feel like maybe this whole situation isn't going to change.
35:03You're both pretty strong businesswomen.
35:05That's why I think you're quite similar, but...
35:07Oh, you do.
35:08Well, you are.
35:10You're strong, independent businesswomen.
35:12OK.
35:13Let's see how the birthday lunch goes
35:16and see what it's like when you see her.
35:20Who's gonna fix it?
35:22Who's gonna fix it?
35:40I've been looking so fly.
35:42I've been looking so fly.
35:44You took the list if they're not feeling this funky dish.
35:47¡Hola!
35:49¡Wow! ¡Look at this!
35:55¡Hola, Gargar! ¡Hola, Figgy!
35:58¡You look amazing!
35:59¡How are you?
36:07¡Oh! ¡Hola!
36:09¡Don't you look gorgeous!
36:12¡Oh, my God!
36:12¡So gorgeous!
36:14¡Hanging!
36:14¡Oh!
36:16¡So normal!
36:17¡I love you!
36:18¡You look stunning!
36:19¡Rosie, you look glorious!
36:21¡Such a bitch, isn't she?
36:22She always looks so well put together
36:25Well, she's certainly well put together
36:27but she looks beautiful
36:28A glass of champagne?
36:29It'll help the hangover
36:30Oh, yes, please
36:31I went to this thing called Tuna Fight Club
36:34at the Supermarket of Dreams
36:35and they wheel out a £13,000 tuna
36:38and if I eat tuna ever again, I'm going to vomit
36:41It was my friend's divorce party
36:43but it was really good fun, thank you so much
36:45So, you are there with James and Lucy
36:49By the way, everything is fine with you and Lucy, isn't it?
36:53Yeah, I mean, it's the show that's brought us together
36:55there's no issue
36:55But had the show not brought us together
36:57You still hate each other?
36:58It wouldn't even be a good thing to discuss
37:01Oh, okay, same
37:01No
37:02I just don't think I have anything to relate to with Lucy
37:07for her being vegan is like her identity
37:09and for me, I love eating steak
37:14It's not my identity though
37:17It's...
37:20Oh...
37:22Well, he wouldn't have to go today
37:24if it could be tomorrow
37:25He can't go today, go today
37:26Go today, go today
37:27Well...
37:27Go today
37:31Okay, alright, thank you
37:33Cheers, bye-bye
37:35I'm now just freaking out
37:36because obviously the stone was supposed to get fitted today
37:39and it doesn't fit
37:41I think it's quite an easy thing to fix, to be honest
37:46Really?
37:47What do you want me to say?
37:48We're going to have to burn the kitchen down
37:51If you want, I'll take the flowers
37:53Okay, cool
37:54Well, maybe you should take them
37:55and you can give them to Rosie
37:57Say, hun, I missed you
37:59I bought it from flowers
38:03Erm...
38:03No?
38:03Probably not
38:05Hello
38:06Hi, Gigi
38:08How are you?
38:10Hello, my boy
38:13Hi
38:14Oh, hello
38:16Happy birthday
38:17Hello
38:18Guys
38:19How are we doing?
38:20How's it going?
38:21Good, how are you?
38:22You look gorgeous
38:23How are you?
38:24How are you?
38:26Hi
38:26Hello, how are you doing?
38:27Good
38:28Thank you, how are you doing?
38:29Yeah, good, thank you
38:30It felt a bit awkward because
38:33I hadn't seen Lucy in a while
38:34and we're not friends
38:35If it wasn't for Binky's birthday
38:37we're not going to hang out
38:40Delicious
38:40Wow
38:41Thank you so much
38:42It does look delicious
38:43How have you been, Rosie?
38:45Good, thank you
38:46Ages
38:47I thought I'd bump into you more
38:48and pass the screen
38:49because I'm always in there
38:51I've just been busy, just working
38:52I went to the Bahamas
38:53to see my sister, which was lovely
38:55Nice
38:55Yeah
38:57Binks said that you're dating someone
38:59Mm-hmm
39:00That's exciting
39:00Mm-hmm
39:01Yeah
39:03How long have you been dating?
39:04Um
39:05A few months
39:08Nice
39:08Yeah
39:08How was that going?
39:10Been all right?
39:11Yeah, it's great
39:12Thanks, guys
39:13Oh, you don't want to talk about it?
39:15I don't know
39:16Oh, I don't know either
39:17No, it's fine, sorry
39:18What?
39:18I don't know either
39:19What?
39:21Soon as Lucy mentioned Rosie's dating life, my heart did drop
39:25She's now on pause with this man
39:28I mean, you're not going to be in the best headspace
39:30You're going to be feeling a bit shit
39:31So, it was probably the worst question to be asked at that time
39:37By probably the worst person
39:41Did you know that I was going to go and see a neurologist about MS?
39:44I didn't know
39:45Did you not?
39:46No
39:46Well, I did
39:46And it was actually a really positive chance
39:51Apparently, MS is genetic
39:53Right
39:54But there's a very small chance that we might have it
39:58Well, that's good news
39:59Yeah
40:00But by my age, you knew you had something really wrong with you
40:03100%, yeah
40:04I did you as early as that
40:05I never knew I had it, I knew there was something wrong with me
40:07But I still went on and did the things that were fun
40:10Right
40:11If you'd known you'd had MS, you wouldn't have attempted to ski
40:14You wouldn't have attempted to play tennis
40:16100%, darling
40:17Yeah, it would have held you back
40:18So, it's good that you didn't know
40:19Yeah, quite
40:19I went for a quick meeting yesterday
40:21We had nine bottles of wine between four of us
40:23Between four?
40:24My God
40:24How are you still alive?
40:25You're not hanging out your ass
40:26I would be dead
40:27I'd be dead
40:28Do you feel fine now? I feel fine now
40:30Oh, were you there too?
40:31No, I went to a divorce party last night
40:34Oh
40:37Love that
40:39I honestly don't know if she's like, why are you even talking to me?
40:42Or if it's that she just doesn't actually have the capability to converse on a level with someone
40:50I get the vibe that she thinks she's better than everyone else
40:53I find it quite strenuous to be mentally engaged by her
40:57I just don't think you need to be fake and go that extra mile to be interested in someone's life
41:04when...
41:06I couldn't really care less
41:08How's Willoughby?
41:10Yeah, Willoughby's good
41:11He's signed with a modelling agent
41:13Mine got rejected
41:14Did they?
41:15Yeah, I thought, cheeky cunts
41:17They said, they are cute, but we'll wait till they're four
41:21Okay
41:22How does that pie taste?
41:24I said, thanks
41:28How are you finding being in a building site with a toddler?
41:33Stressful as fuck
41:33But I think we're at the point where the light is at the end of the tunnel
41:36Have you ever had therapy?
41:38Oh, what, as a marriage therapy?
41:40Yeah
41:40I think it's important
41:41I think a lot of couples need that
41:43I kind of saw therapy as last resort
41:45Yeah
41:45Whereas Lucy, as you know, is very proactive
41:47And she sees it as if we learn one thing that makes things better in our relationship
41:51Then it's a good thing
41:52It makes you a team again
41:53We definitely felt closer afterwards, didn't we?
41:55And we've argued a lot less
41:58Sometimes in a relationship the wife, maybe, has to get the man in a good mood
42:03Before he will open up to be able to even contemplate the fact he might be wrong about something
42:08But I wouldn't marry someone in the first place who I hadn't, I didn't have an open relationship where you
42:15can speak
42:16You know, you want to make sure that the foundations of that are there in the beginning
42:21So that you're not trying to pick the best time to speak to your husband
42:24I couldn't think of anything worse than walking on eggshells
42:27But you don't always know because every marriage starts with great happiness
42:30Yeah
42:30But you get, things get lost in translation
42:33Stressful situations mean that you just, like, don't prioritise it
42:37Which I really wanted to prioritise it, so that's how you went
42:41I don't think Rosie has the ability to understand where I'm coming from with this situation
42:44Because she isn't in a marriage, she doesn't have kids
42:47You just don't know what the fuck you're talking about
42:49But thank you
42:51Thank you for your input
42:52Come bearing gifts from your husband, Max
42:55Aww, amazing!
42:57That's very lovely
42:58My favourite bottle
42:59Best champagne on earth
42:59And we like Brunard as well
43:00It means he's spent a penny, which we liked
43:02Well done, Max
43:04It's gone up in your estimation
43:05Well done, Max
43:05That's sweet, that's thoughtful
43:06That's a good boy
43:08Let's get rid of this garbage
43:09He's forgiven
43:09Yeah
43:09Get rid of that shit
43:11That cheap house shit you bought
43:12It's my favourite
43:14So, I had some help from Tally to write a poem for you
43:19Aww
43:21I hope I can do it justice
43:23Binks, to know and love you is to have a friend for life
43:26A wonderful bestie
43:28Businesswoman, mummy and wife
43:30It was filming Made in Chelsea where we first met
43:33Fifteen years of friendship, memories I won't forget
43:39We've come a long way
43:40Less hair extensions and fake tan
43:43We lived through a wild night out and a fun last minute plan
43:47You've consistently had my back
43:50You're loving and kind
43:52We all enjoy how you will say whatever comes to mind
43:59I... I did feel... a little bit sick
44:04You're one in a million Binks, a best friend that I treasure
44:08I promise to always be there for you and your family forever
44:11Aww
44:11I feel so immensely proud of who you are and everything you do
44:15So here's to your birthday, to friendship, but mostly here's to you
44:20Aww, thank you, my girls
44:23Love you, happy birthday
44:24Love you
44:25It was just like sickly sweet
44:28And also, it's her 35th birthday, not her wedding
44:32I'm so tired now, I've got to work when I get home
44:35I drank last night, yeah
44:36Are you going to go and see your boyfriend?
44:38No
44:39Is he not your boyfriend?
44:41Are you going to go home? No
44:41Okay
44:43That's why you don't want to talk about it
44:45It's over
44:46It's over, sir
44:46Is it over?
44:47No, it's you
44:48Yeah
44:49No, that's really sad, I'm sorry
44:53You okay?
44:54Yeah
44:56I guess I'd rather just shut down a conversation with Lucy
44:59If it's about my personal life
45:00Because it just feels uncomfortable
45:02So what I'll do when I'll stand up
45:04I just want a quick toast
45:05Oh
45:06Oh
45:07So, alright
45:08We've all been friends for lots and lots of years
45:11Through different times
45:12All starting on that silly show that we love
45:15All grown up
45:16We're all a bit greyer
45:17A bit gayer
45:18Speak to us out
45:18Yeah
45:19And I think we're all very lucky to have each other
45:22I really do believe it
45:23Cheers to you Binks
45:24Cheers
45:24Happy birthday
45:24Thank you very much
45:26Thank you for coming
45:26Cheers
45:27Happy birthday
45:27Cheers
45:28That was a very nice speech
45:30That was a lovely speech to you all
45:31We love you
45:31Love you too
45:32And thank you for my poem
45:42Cute
45:43Love that
45:44Hi Willoughby
45:45You're a pro
45:48I got shit on
45:50I do want to talk about the kitchen
45:52Or people would be able to cook and use the kitchen
45:55I thought you were a bit quiet with Lucy
45:57I'm just like not friends with her
45:58That's the thing
45:59I'm prepared to be like civil and be friendly
46:01For Binky's sake
46:02And I feel like she's just like
46:05Can't even do that
46:06So Lucy's book
46:07We're going to launch
46:08Yes
46:08Who are we waiting for actually?
46:10Oh Tiff
46:10Tiff's coming
46:11Oh Tiff
46:12And Rosie
46:12She said I eat meat and I have no interest in vegan food
46:16What?
46:19Good
46:20Great
46:21It's been great
46:21You
46:35Gracias por ver el video.
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