00:00You talked about culture, and as you know, Apollo's been drawn into the Epstein thing
00:04because your fellow founder, Leon Black, who left in 2021, was part of it.
00:11Apollo's done an investigation, said everything was to do with him.
00:15And I'm sure this eats up a lot of your time.
00:18Just as a general question for you, a strange one, if you look back at that whole period,
00:24regardless of individual meetings and things, when you look back now,
00:28looking at it, what would you have done differently other than perhaps not having had Leon as a partner?
00:35Look, Leon made his own decisions, and I will not do that.
00:39But the answer is nothing.
00:41This is, whether through good judgment or good fortune,
00:46this is not someone I built a personal or business relationship with.
00:49It's not someone that Apollo did business with.
00:52If a relationship is, you know, one meeting over 20 years and a couple of unreturned emails,
00:57then that's a relationship.
01:00But other than he was Leon's tax advisor, we ran a partnership, not a company back then.
01:08Leon's tax position was relevant to my tax position.
01:11Other than that, I'm very sorry and didn't see what Jeff was doing.
01:18Me, I didn't like him for my own reasons.
01:20He wasted my time.
01:22But now it does occupy time and questions as well.
01:26Even from the grave, he's wasting my time.
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