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00:01welcome to the 14th episode of the lobster fight guys welcome back how are we we good sean are we
00:08good absolutely fantastic yeah yeah why because today is a very special day it is it is right
00:13we're having another guest on the podcast and we're very happy to have him here with us today
00:20we are having a lovely chat with nick cassidy um and i don't want him to present himself because
00:28we we did that sort of with uh with andrea and uh we felt it wasn't too nice for him
00:32so i will
00:33happily introduce you mate so um i've written down a few things about nick here and to the the people
00:39out there that don't know him maybe you'll get to know him through this episode that's at least what
00:43we would like to try and achieve nick's a 20 year old very smiling guy out of new zealand so
00:51he's a
00:51kiwi for the ones that don't know and uh born and raised in auckland if i'm not mistaken and
00:57uh nick's a racing driver nick is absolute racing driver and uh i've written down a few of the
01:04achievements that come to mind japanese formula 3 champion super gt 500 champion with ryu rikawa
01:12and super formula champion as well three championships all as well in uh in japan if i'm not mistaken
01:21karting since the age of very young i don't know exactly maybe nick can get into telling us that later
01:26and currently racing in formula e championships uh and it's the third season for nick and uh he's
01:33overall number three in the championship currently pretty cool sitting here with uh one of the
01:39contestants for the championship racing for envision racing formula e team and uh nick i'm gonna allow
01:45you the microphone now cheers boys thanks for thanks for having me on first of all thank you for coming
01:50on so i was nervous there listening to to fred introduce me i'm like oh no what can go wrong
01:56right that was pretty good thank you for that mate yeah you're welcome i've done better than i could
02:01have done myself yeah but you've done it you know you've done that
02:07so guys today we're gonna have a chat about uh raising about live we all obviously live around the
02:13same place here in monaco but uh we come from very various different places and uh but let's let's start
02:19and get get to know you a little bit i think sean has a few uh let's say initial questions
02:23i've got
02:24a few quick fire questions so for losing the first thing that comes to mind just shoot it out
02:29all right it's cool all right guys just to be to be fair all i've said basically on this podcast
02:35so
02:35far is hello everyone's wondering who the hell is this go ahead now we're gonna have me firing out
02:41random answers and they're gonna be like what's this dude up to all right let's go all right all right
02:47nick do you prefer overtaking or defending ah overtaking overtaking all right do you prefer a wet
02:54or a dry track dry fair enough do you prefer home races or international races home do you prefer
03:05street circuits or traditional tracks street do you prefer day races or night races night
03:13what's who's your toughest competitor
03:18pass pass fair enough what is the best racing advice you've received
03:28oh it's very very simple first that comes to mind is don't give up
03:32awesome everyone says it but mate it's key easier said than done isn't it
03:39right then is it all team strategy or do you use your own instinct instinct that's nice
03:47not if you ask the team no no no no
03:51like that's cool because that's the first thing that comes to mind obviously is like it's instinct
03:55racing i think it's cool i was i was wondering what's your favorite racetrack
04:01um you said street circuits i don't want to yeah but macau macau yeah very very cool street circuit
04:06yeah i think that's that's pretty cool i like these questions they're easy guys
04:11i was expecting something like i had to answer politically correct
04:17there is no i mean we are the most listened to podcast in monocle so don't get shy but you
04:23know
04:23you can answer everything that you want i wanted to know golf or skydiving
04:28oh that's a tough one mate i really want to go skydiving i'm going to say skydiving because i
04:32haven't done it i would love to but i am into my golf currently cool very cool music or no
04:39music for
04:39preparation uh music cool yeah uh brightest memory of your racing career
04:49what would be the super formula title cool 2019 yeah very very cool what is the weirdest thing you've heard
04:59on the radio
05:03on the radio like on the radio like the team radio team radio um
05:08um well i've had some pretty weird conversations with my engineer this year
05:12um what's an example for that have you guys there there used to be an ad in germany about teaching
05:20english
05:20and um
05:24um
05:25i forget exactly how it goes but it's a german coast guard
05:29oh yeah have you seen that one yeah yeah yeah yeah so so i've had my engineer basically repeat this
05:35ad to me while i'm on an hour lap and i just had no idea what he's talking about
05:40like we'd forgotten about it two days later he sent me this youtube link
05:44and i watched it i was i was in hysterics i was laughing so much but
05:48yeah we come up with some weird shit it's quite cool amazing that's the funny part that's the
05:54funny part when you just you're there you're in your race car imagine and then you just start
05:59hearing these voices and be like all right mate we're on the outlet here it's getting ready but
06:02let's have it yeah i try i try like i try to keep it i try to keep it fun
06:07and relaxed and it probably
06:08doesn't work for everyone and it doesn't even the guys you work with so just to give a little bit
06:14of
06:14background informally we we're allowed 22 people at the circuit um working on the cars in the garage
06:21and then we have an ops room which is a remote base so it's at our workshop with with all
06:28the
06:28telemetry all the screens following the session and we're limited to six people there okay so
06:33essentially within my team i'm speaking to 28 people right but that's that's okay it it's professional
06:42and it's it's pretty cool but then when you get me coming on the radio and saying hey guys have
06:47you
06:47seen the horse it's a bit weird i had no idea you could be that many on the radio that's
06:54a lot yeah
06:55just obviously just listening so it's me and my engineer and i and i'm lucky that he's he's a laid
06:59back dude and and you know he can say stuff like no i haven't right where is it i haven't
07:05seen it
07:05either you know you can have a laugh it's it's cool this is what i meant when i presented nick
07:11you
07:11know smiling always funny good chat try to be half as positive as you guys if i'm half as positive
07:16you
07:16guys we're pretty positive oh sure i mean we do come around a bit positive but like it's it's amazing
07:22it's a really good quality to have that's good that's good i think it helps also in a serious i
07:28imagine a serious less career and stuff keeping it loose for some people it helps for others it's a
07:34stress like if everything is not strict in a certain way yeah everyone's different right
07:40you've all got your your little things that you like to do or the way you want to be um
07:45i'm certainly
07:46not perfect even to what suits me i'm not how i should be all of the time but that's part
07:51of sport
07:51you've got to work yourself out and try to put yourself into the zone that suits you right so you're
07:57right you're right um i was wondering mate i've noticed that you always carry more or less the
08:04racing number 37 okay when you go racing okay have you done that always is there a specific story
08:10about 37 yeah so when i was um i hope this isn't too boring for you guys but i think
08:17but uh really
08:19simply when i was younger um my dad did a bit of racing and he was actually number 37 um
08:25my brother
08:26was 27 and and i was 87 so that was um as we grew up and then when i went
08:33to japan uh the two cars were
08:3636 and 37 they naturally had me as 37 for my first year there and we won the championship so
08:43it was just
08:44something that stuck um and it was quite cool that i linked back to my dad right and and uh
08:49yeah when i
08:50moved to formulary i decided to continue with that that's cool so you feel sort of a proudness of
08:57carrying the number or you're not really too just got like a little bit of meaning right so yeah it's
09:02cool i don't know if it's i just noticed it you got me thinking you're ugly i don't know but
09:07yeah
09:10it's it's interesting because the racing numbers for some people i think are pretty religious stuff
09:14if you can't have your racing number on your car for some certain reason maybe there's another
09:19driver who carries it or it's just what's your number one well i was just without me i really do
09:26appreciate it i've used 98 98 yeah 98 exactly yeah and you got a reason behind that uh it's just
09:34my
09:35birth year mate very simple you know basic and boring but uh i i like this not this symmetry because
09:40it really isn't a symmetrical uh number but i just like the way it looks yeah sometimes it just
09:46so you've gone for the sexy part correct exactly try it at least i'm happy that you found it the
09:51same way as well no i just you know observe
09:56did you always grow up like knowing that uh your way was sort of raising trying to make it a
10:02professional racing driver as you are today yeah i was always addicted by by cars motorsport
10:09the former one especially um and then i think if if you can live your your passion for as long
10:18as
10:18possible you're pretty lucky right and i'm just kind of lucky that that day where it become time to
10:25get a real job hasn't hasn't come yet so that's uh yeah now if racing wasn't your full-time profession
10:34what do you think you'd be doing um i have weirdly a big passion for
10:41for business and then marketing um so i think it involves some way in in marketing whether that's
10:50social media fashion um those kind of things yeah i'm getting more and more involved in that kind
10:57of stuff now just because it's become something that i really enjoy outside of outside of racing
11:02cool so it's like a passion actually but i think with motorsport you can actually sort of combine
11:08those two as motor racing is such a marketed sport now that you want the visibility of brands you want
11:14the visibility of partners and stuff so maybe there's a way for you to connect those two yeah i've thought
11:20about a lot um i've just gone through probably the stage where you know i've missed i why i shouldn't
11:27say this and i i feel it's a weird thing to kind of say because um i feel if if
11:34you're starting your
11:34career you can really create a brand around you and and go for sort of something you can create a
11:41lot of
11:41um different ways to portray and show what you do in your career whereas i think now
11:47with where i'm at i'm uh enjoying what i'm doing i'm focusing a lot on the performance side not really
11:53on the marketing side just because i'm feeling that's working for me right now and then i'm more
11:57looking at how can i help others with that knowledge if that makes sense that's cool so it's actually uh
12:04that passion is also to help others not necessarily for your own benefit only yeah and i'm almost a bit
12:10superstitious where i find whenever i focus on those kind of things myself then then um for for whatever
12:18reason and i never think it's linked to this but the results aren't as good and whatever i'm
12:24you know i'm pretending no one knows i'm there and i'm focusing on on my gig and my job then
12:30i seem to
12:30go okay so i'm uh yeah i don't think that they're linked at all but i think it's just a
12:36little little
12:36bit of a superstitious thing in the mind which i think we all have those superstitious uh feelings or
12:43thoughts so if you've figured out that for example it works for you now why not stick to it yeah
12:49why not stick to it until a bad race we can and then we'll be all over it exactly and
12:55then you have
12:55the chance to just flick it 360 and be like okay i'll come up with something yeah exactly i'll go
13:00drawing it before every race or something like totally off topic weird stuff um i was wondering
13:07how does a kiwi from auckland end up in monaco yeah yeah um man long long journey right i i
13:17first
13:18came to to europe when i was 16 17 um just trying to get any gig i could in racing
13:26whether that was
13:27at the time it was former in a euro cup i was trying to get a test racey uh there
13:32but at that stage
13:33of your career um it's it's a topic talked about a lot but you've got to bring money to the
13:40table
13:40right you've got to be able to pay to race um which is just part of the game but you
13:46gotta if you've
13:47already got a certain amount of funds you've got to work out well what's the most efficient way to do
13:51that and um it wasn't easy from from the background that i had but i kind of made it work
13:57got a gig here
13:58gig there and then i i had one or two good races that led me to japan i had a
14:03all of a sudden a
14:05contract with tuoda i was in a really good place um my career in japan from the start was was
14:13really
14:13nice and i was very fortunate to end up there um but after a while i i was living this
14:21this life in
14:22japan which i thought was amazing you know lifestyle wise instead of tokyo um had a pretty
14:29cool place racing was good we're winning but i'm like well how much longer can i keep doing this for
14:36without being bored um and i had the opportunity to to join for marie to move back to europe um
14:45i mean we've got a lot of mutual friends in monaco right which uh i think it's a pretty cool
14:50place
14:50for sport and for racing so it was an easy choice to to move to monaco and be part of
14:55that in
14:56combination with moving to former marie um and i was at that stage of my career where it was then
15:02or
15:02never like do i continue in japan for the next 10 years and become bored or do i challenge myself
15:10and
15:10try to do something new again and so um there i am that's cool it's kind of getting out of
15:15your
15:15comfort zone was then the choice you then yeah was before well i got out of my comfort zone a
15:21lot in
15:21japan except no one knew you so you city was so big so many people it was in monaco you
15:27do that and
15:27you're in the news the next morning right yeah that's true that's true that's but i think what i
15:33really respect about that and the move itself is that you are having it going pretty well for you
15:38there you know yeah life was perfect like you were really you were winning races you you know you
15:43were you were racing a lot you had a lot of time behind the behind the wheel to then give
15:47up that
15:48go somewhere else and trying to make it in a in a championship which might seem quite vastly
15:55different from what you came for i have huge respect for that cheers man yeah it was actually
16:00i actually struggled with it the first i must say the 12 months that i was here um
16:06that because i think when i made the move was end of 2020 so it was you know middle of
16:12covid let's say
16:13life in in monaco and in europe still wasn't normal through 2021 it was pretty restricted so i wasn't
16:21experiencing what i thought that i'd signed up for plus racing wise was pretty different and and
16:27honestly i i didn't enjoy it the first 12 months i found it tough i was like have i done
16:32the right thing
16:32but i think you you settle into life a lot more your friend group gets bigger but more trustworthy
16:41you you know more or less what you want to be doing and and um yeah i must say over
16:48the last 12
16:48months that's got way easier so it's been pretty cool i think for sean and i having moved actually
16:53here more or less at the same time are you guys come same time yeah i moved here and uh
16:57like i moved
16:58here probably full time in 2020 as well okay so now it's like two and a half years three years
17:04and counting yep and sean used to be here for i mean i've been here for like six seven years
17:10but only
17:10in the summertime yeah right after that it was and then more or less as of then it was full
17:15time okay
17:16but like during covid like we didn't meet anyone we didn't mingle with anyone really besides ourselves
17:22yeah yeah then from then on like as of let's say yeah really let's say the last 12 12 to
17:2918 months
17:30i'd say is really were kind of everything opened up and you actually got to be able to do things
17:36again
17:37right yeah yeah was it it was it for me i had the same thoughts that you had because we
17:42were moving
17:42here to study at the time uh the university where you are usually very social where you usually have
17:48you know everything in your life is like new fresh whatever and you see yourself locked up in your
17:53apartment at 6 p.m because of uh you know you couldn't go outside your door it was a bit
17:58weird
17:59and yeah finding friends in a place where everyone actually or many people are from so vastly different
18:05places that you you meet people and it's like it's a little bit of a funky situation yeah it's that
18:11awkward phase right a bit a bit i agree once you get through that and life's more open it becomes
18:15easier to
18:16yeah yeah because once then you've opened it up you have so many different people here as you say
18:22also in terms of for example athletes you hang around with i think we also hang around with a lot
18:28is that everyone have their own story they all come here for having a nice base yep and you you
18:34know
18:34you have your thing going your racing sean has his thing going i have my thing going but we all
18:39have
18:39this time where we are in the home base sure sure having a great time all together yeah which makes
18:44it
18:45make it right and to have that that balance where you can you can have your career you can have
18:50your
18:50passion everything going on but still then be here and be amongst guys who are on a similar kind of
18:56wavelength and lifestyle is pretty cool do you already have kind of like a friend uh or like a group
19:02of
19:03guys before you moved here that you knew so i was like you came in it was completely yeah well
19:10basically so so mitch evans races for marie um and tom longquist he was racing for marie in in 2021
19:18as well when i when i moved um we we grew up together since we're like six years old and
19:26we've been best
19:27friends since we're like six so it was then mad to be racing in the same championship against each other
19:32again and um living in the same place as well it was just you know did it bring back memories
19:38it's
19:38like a group of 10 year olds hanging out together again that's pretty cool that that's uh that's crazy
19:45how you know three three guys from from new zealand just end up in the same small place yeah and
19:51like
19:51we'd all been off doing our things we'd all all maintained our our friendship and and um yeah even even
19:58career wise in terms of different championships and whatever so to end back together racing against
20:04each other was it was pretty cool i think it's cool you can find that pleasure in the racing against
20:08each other you know having had that competitive aspect since the age of six you know you're always
20:12comparing yourself a little bit back and forth but to see you all three excel in your own way i
20:17think
20:17is so cool like you've all done your thing right true and then you just end up at some point
20:23it's funny
20:23as well because you know as you get older i think you get more and more mature about it where
20:28um i
20:30think naturally you support each other more and more as well you know you got way more respect i
20:35think you always have respect but when you're eight years old you just want to be the best yeah and
20:39now
20:40you still want to be the best but you realize that the other guy's pretty fucking good as well yeah
20:43which
20:44which is awesome which is awesome to also like if i had two of my friends that with if i
20:49go back home
20:50uh like let's say 10 years of swimming for example 10 years ago the guys i was swimming with i
20:55don't
20:55see myself in you know having a friendship with them right here in monaco really still doing the
21:01swimming career and stuff and be that closely competing but also in terms of friendship yeah
21:06uh it's something that i don't want to say i'm jealous but it must be cool to have that feeling
21:11it's like home away from home yeah i'm lucky though because for example if that wasn't here then
21:17i think getting into your life when you first moved as you guys discover right you it's a bit
21:23awkward trying to meet guys or people doing similar things i'm not really the guy to walk down the
21:30streets and holding in signs and i'm looking for friends you know what it says not quite afraid
21:35not the kiwi way maybe it isn't the kiwi way um but did you all when when if you can
21:43imagine it
21:44or remember it when did you decide like 100 percent racing is what i'm gonna go for i'm gonna take
21:49my
21:50shot at racing oh i think you've got to be pretty lucky in in life like man i've been so
21:56fortunate to
21:57have my parents be behind me to be able to get me into the sport into karting when i was
22:02super young
22:03you know it's um it's a passion when you're a young kid but i think i mean it's not my
22:12decision
22:13at six years old to buy a go-kart it's not my decision at seven eight to spend every weekend
22:19going to the go-kart track and stuff right so pretty lucky to have parents who basically gave
22:23all that up to support me what kind of racing was your dad doing just club stuff like um track
22:30day
22:31some some normal club meetings he had a like a lotus seven type um catering car you know and
22:39and uh yeah just he's he's really hands-on really loves his his cars from the mechanical side um
22:48so yeah he did the driving as well that's really really cool i i think for everyone that has a
22:54success
22:55history as in sport many times it comes from either most of the time just endless support from back home
23:02yeah that you know that you can be confident in spending all your time and energy to try and get
23:09really good at something yeah true true because if you don't have that it's it's it's yeah it's common
23:14i like when you look around the world and you see the the top sports people in many different um
23:21categories i think that's a common aspect and then when you hear about someone who hasn't had that
23:27and still made it it for me makes it uh you know a lot more special kudos really special yeah
23:34kudos to that
23:34for sure i was um i mean we did speak about how it is like moving away 20 000 kilometers
23:42from your
23:42home time but like your everyday lifestyle here how has that changed i mean it's probably like 10
23:47years ago or whatever you lived back home in new zealand or something but your everyday how does it how
23:54has it changed to come here being a professional athlete living in a place as monaco where you can
24:01do anything basically but you will still need to be focused on your career so i've gone i guess
24:08like i saw you go through the you know different stages of life right but when i left home it
24:15was
24:15basically leaving school as well and so i stopped um you know finished up at school went basically to
24:24to live in the uk and and every day it was oh well i've got three weeks for the next
24:29race what am i
24:30going to do each morning and you know you watch videos you watch tv series you go to the gym
24:34because
24:35you're going to train but you don't really have a structure you're just waiting for the next race
24:39whereas when i went to japan i was like okay i need to put some routine into my life and
24:45so um
24:47i'm terrible at learning languages i think a lot of that's from effort that for myself to put into it
24:52but i put myself into a japanese language school just to be i wanted to learn some of the language
25:00but
25:00as well it was like okay 9 a.m every morning you're at school until 11 or 11 30 whatever
25:06it was
25:07and then from there okay i go to the gym we have lunch go to the gym and so each
25:10day then i had
25:11no routine in between the races and um that i think built some structure and some knowledge of
25:20okay this is how i'm going to spend my time each day is going to be beneficial to me in
25:25some way
25:26um and i'm not just sitting around home or or wasting letting time go by um and then on top
25:32of
25:33that we were driving so much in japan so i was doing two championships at once it was common to
25:38do there um but it meant most weekends something was going on whether we're testing racing or whatever
25:44and so life become really busy and i just got used to this lifestyle that when i've moved back to
25:49monaco i try replicate that in some way um i don't like waking up and not really knowing what
25:56i'm going to do or having nothing i think it's good to have those days but i just naturally like
26:01being in some routine or or having um something on the calendar during the day that i know is
26:07beneficial to myself as a as an individual whether that's for racing or just for for general life
26:13i think i can totally relate to the structure there the need for structure and uh but even for us
26:20when we were just having for example school and then you would still have you know a gap of maybe
26:25six seven hours after school until for example dinner time and what do you do in that time some days
26:31you
26:31would have shorter school right what do you do with the time so the fact that you've been able to
26:37um
26:37let's say adapt your day to not allow yourself to just rest it out chill it out challenging yourself
26:46giving yourself structure it's really important i feel it myself as well and um yeah it relates not
26:54just to racing right it's just yeah i think whatever whatever you're in i mean a lot of people have
27:00it
27:00naturally just by either i mean okay not if you've got a short school day but if you've got a
27:05full school
27:06day you have that that routine planned out for you and if you're in a in an office job you're
27:11you've
27:12also got it kind of structured out for you where you're in at the office at this time you have
27:15these
27:16meetings and you go home at that time and so as soon as that's not there and i find it
27:21important to
27:21kind of recreate that yourself going to formula e again so you've done a lot of normal racing how does
27:31that compare to let's say formula e like what kind of are there different challenges is it
27:37similar type of racing is it completely different like what does it look like
27:41yeah you know at first i was like wow man this is this is so different this is so different
27:48um
27:49not in the not in a negative way just just new um pretty exciting a lot to learn um i
27:56think anyone
27:57that comes into the championship there's still a fair bit to learn but at the end of the day we're
28:03still um we're still just trying to drive as fast as we can you know there's still qualifying way
28:09where you've got two pedals and a steering wheel you've got a friend who says at the end of the
28:14day
28:14it's only a car with four wheels mate yeah and and so you've got that aspect of qualifying where
28:21you're just still trying to drive as fast as possible i think the race side is then what's quite
28:26different um because you've you've got this phase of the race or phase of the straight where you lift
28:33off the throttle you close for a little bit almost like fuel saving um but it's it's uh energy saving
28:40and then you you've got a a phase of the braking where we're um recuperating a lot of energy on
28:48the
28:48brakes to put back into the car and to to have more efficiency um so it means that yeah there's
28:56some different techniques to learn from the racing side but from a qualifying side it's
29:00still pretty much flat out yeah and uh i like that challenge as well i mean i think you watch
29:07a lot
29:07of races these days and i think one one's been a lot closer lately i really enjoy watching it um
29:14but i watched a lot of other series and there's no passing you know who's gonna win after the start
29:19it's a bit boring whereas in fe man like anything can happen yeah yeah i really can following like
29:25the races you'd be thinking okay this guy is leading now all right but you don't really have
29:29the pit stops you don't really have that kind of thing so it's really a lot of the strategy on
29:34the on
29:35the track the attack modes the boost zones and stuff like this but then you're still gonna be fast
29:41right exactly all that's going on but it's still gonna be fast yeah and the last the last two
29:46races now i've been leading with eight laps to go any other championship you're like all right
29:52where's what does the trophy look like and where's the after party you know but in
29:57in former eight eight laps to go you're like it's a lot closer anything can happen yeah speaking of the
30:03last races you've done really well recently like last race was in brazil right got second there
30:09yeah yeah last race has been good man but there's still like so long to go in the championship
30:14still 10 races left um we're still pretty pretty well the season's still young so um there's a kiwi
30:22talking here you know talking it down i gotta talk it down like i've just yeah of course just been
30:26saying you know the race is like crazy and anything can happen and i'm sure maybe one of these next
30:32races it could even be my next race it's it's a no points or or it's a tough day and
30:36that's um
30:37that's part of the sport right so been amazing to have some good ones but try not to really
30:42celebrate them yet because it's still so so long to go but do you think that with the um let's
30:49say
30:49the podiums i know you've had you've had uh three podiums this this season and they've been consecutive
30:55yeah and let's say the first three races you were doing x position and x position and then
31:02kind of got it podium there podium there podium there do you feel that there is this
31:08flow sort of thing you're riding on that you feel with the previous race or something that okay
31:15i can i can definitely do it again yeah i think so i mean saying that i think the next
31:20track has been
31:21a bit of a bogey track for us the last few years so it's nice to in a way almost
31:27have that because
31:29it keeps you on your toes it doesn't let you get too confident you know that the next one's still
31:33going to be tough that i gotta work my ass off to be prepared as best as i can because
31:37it's not
31:38going to be easy right um but certainly the last few races have given you big confidence i mean i
31:44can
31:44walk into nightclubs now with my sunglasses on oh with that okay with that but i know that the
31:54next races you have coming up in berlin right yeah there you'll need your sunglasses at night sean and
31:58i just visited berlin this weekend and i'll tell you man it really is something like is something it's
32:07an experience to say the league it is an experience mate berlin is a surviving experience you guys go
32:12out after the half yeah we went out after the half i'll tell you what happened basically i'm keen to
32:18hear this we hear we we're running this sunday i have half marathon of berlin sean me and ben good
32:23times by the way thanks mate good times appreciate it we all put a solid effort down there yeah everyone
32:29got a personal best out of it really yeah yeah cheers and uh we crossed the line and already there
32:35the first thing i'm having is an alcohol free beer an erdinger so already there you're starting with
32:42the beers i didn't drink probably water until we got home at midnight or something even then we didn't
32:50drink any water because we didn't have any water right the minibar was closed because the minibar was
32:55on me so it was closed absolutely closed and uh we just went straight for pizzas beers after that we
33:02went
33:02for the bakery beers and then more beers beers ended up in some donut kebab shop at uh
33:11see the thing is berlin has the potential to be a lot more and some of the other runners we
33:16were
33:16running with oh they went to clubs with certain types of swings and whatnot really really okay okay
33:23and i think i'm actually quite happy we didn't go no names here for the rest of monaco to actually
33:30don't live in monaco unfortunately yeah they're all from manchester those ones okay okay well i mean
33:35the names of the clubs oh oh i think the one the one the most people went to was the
33:40kitkat club kitkat
33:42yeah okay okay and be careful you've just just notification from easyjet yeah it needs to berlin
33:48flight sold out there you go easyjet will send you the invoice they will probably they will they will
33:56oh sorry that's cool that's cool i'm excited to uh to to follow the races in berlin but also in
34:02monaco that's the let's say sort of the next round as well coming up real soon a month time or
34:06something we're racing here i'm pumped for that every year pretty pumped it's nice going down the
34:12um the front straight and around the port now seeing all these grandstands knowing
34:17you know they've put them up for us and then they'll just get them out yeah yeah exactly
34:23that's essentially that's essentially what it is that's essentially what it is you know we'll be
34:28there on the grandstands absolutely 100 but like what's it like to to race in monaco you're now
34:34living here you're racing in in the city you said that you did like also the street tracks
34:38quite a lot i mean monaco is almost um the least street style circuit for us because you know they
34:48do such a good job with the roads here it's all um re-tarmax you know fresh freshly sealed um
34:56so there's hardly any bumps it's super high grip the track's quite fast for a fe car that um
35:04it's almost one of the most say racetrack tracks that we have we go to sao paulo we go to
35:11rome we
35:11go to these um or india and we're on some pretty crazy roads like the some big jumps bumps you
35:21know
35:21it's hectic have you seen on board camera you will know what next talking about yeah i mean but it
35:26makes
35:26it super fun and then you come to monaco and everything's super smooth really nice okay well this
35:32is this is a bit different um but no it's an epic week you know you sleep at home you
35:36walk down to
35:37the track it's um it's easy to be too chilled just because you're at home you're you know everything's
35:46pretty relaxed but um i'm looking forward to it how do you keep yourself on toes for that weekend then
35:54uh in what way what do you mean i mean just to make sure that come race day you are
35:58at your top you'll be at home you know you're in your let's say comfort zone to some way yeah
36:03you still got to make sure that when race day is here you know you have that much more to
36:09give than
36:09the others because you're at home you can really prepare yourself yeah i think that's that's key is
36:14to not um leave anything at home that you normally wouldn't and think oh it's fine because i can go
36:22back and get it or you know you're pretty chilled still pack your bag like you normally would still
36:28go to the track like you normally would stay in that race race mind that i mean that's what i
36:32try
36:32to do um and then sleeping in your own bed and being at home everything else just becomes an advantage
36:39and not a negative yeah it makes sense i remember when i was for example competing with swimming
36:45it would be so nice to have your own bed but let's say the whole aspect of the competition
36:50would change dramatically from if i was staying at home or if i was at some hostel or somewhere else
36:57yeah like my mindset would just be a bit more in a positive way in a positive way like if
37:02i was out
37:03i would be a little bit more just like um just trying to be more prepared a little bit harder
37:10on
37:10myself okay a little bit uh trying to get all these small things prepared for the race whereas you say
37:17exactly if you miss something from home you can just go back and get it or something like
37:21making sure you're prepared to to every extent yeah yeah yeah true so that's that's cool where's your
37:29favorite place to race um and macau is probably uh doing your time in japan i imagine i would say
37:36within formerly um the past years i've really enjoyed new york that's been for me that's i love the city
37:44um the race we were in in brooklyn uh on the port so a little bit out i guess of
37:51the city but
37:51um the whole week leading up to it like it's hectic it's fun i really enjoyed it there monaco's
37:58pretty hard to beat i think as well it's it's special because it's home but it's also
38:04probably the most iconic you know name and place um so yeah those two are pretty big i think
38:10cool i know you you're getting a like in formula e there's a lot a lot of fans now
38:17what's the weirdest thing a fan has ever asked you to sign
38:22um their tits their tits how does it feel just signing a pair of tits i wouldn't know mate
38:29it's for everyone listening smart guy this one huh smart are trained yeah very much so you can
38:36definitely tell 100 that's funny all right if you could build your team at the moment uh an
38:43imaginary team and you had to choose one celebrity to be your teammate to race with this is big
38:48this is big what celebrity would that be um i would choose tom cruise tom cruise tom cruise
38:57why big name probably a lot of probably common not something something out of the ordinary i guess
39:03but um just just got that persona right
39:11action sports dude definitely definitely definitely yeah who would you choose yeah what do you guys i was
39:17actually just gonna say because i remember sean asking me a question on uh on another episode
39:24where he's like something about some celebrities or something who would you want to play you as a
39:29celebrity or something and i picked tom cruise yeah i did pick tom cruise as well okay so uh i
39:36i could
39:36definitely see youtube vibe as well like just taking the piss out of uh the garage just having a great
39:42time but it'll be like it's it's an interesting question actually because i don't think you can
39:46choose like an adam samler
39:49you know what i mean you've gotta yeah you're gonna have guys 100 would you choose sean
39:57uh
39:59probably ryan reynolds okay yeah i think that one would just you'd have a ride you'd have a great
40:04time he's funny huh hilarious yeah yeah he's funny that would actually be so funny to see you
40:10i mean all right let's say uh they would make a movie out of you then okay who would play
40:17who would
40:17play you um oh that i don't know i think you guys would be better to choose who would you
40:24want to play
40:27you oh man um i i feel like you guys are gonna be waiting too long for me to come
40:35up with an answer i think i think
40:37someone to play you let's say the let's say it's the new rush movie or something you know like some
40:44some um some movie with you on one side and then i don't know you know who i'd want to
40:50play me
40:51mark walberg that's cool that's a good one that's original he's like i find um
41:01yeah maybe he's more positive he's more energetic than me but i think he's he's a big dog right
41:08i agree that he's a bit i think it's interesting you say mark walberg because what comes to mind
41:13for me with mark walberg is this dude that is you know he's putting in the work every day you
41:19know
41:19he's up at 2 a.m and his little gym you know working out he tells you about it yeah
41:23at least
41:24it tells you about it yeah but i mean yeah you can tell that the guy has something going for
41:28him and
41:29that he is he doesn't necessarily shout out what he's doing all the time what he's putting in the
41:35work yeah then you have someone like drained rock johnson you'll know he'll be putting in that
41:39work every day but you also know that he's doing that because it'll be everywhere or something like
41:42he also couldn't play me right he didn't couldn't play you so i would actually think that uh
41:47it's interesting because i'm sure you're putting in the work for your career for your profession
41:54but it's not something that you are actively you know posting everywhere telling everyone hey i'm
42:01doing this hey i'm doing that like for example you were one of the guys that joined us for the
42:07running challenge here in monaco and mind you guys that this is two marathons in two days and nick was
42:11doing it as a sort of a weakened activity in between races yeah but i didn't imagine you guys
42:18are you guys are the machines these guys have the pace yeah i'm just i just think i can definitely
42:24tell
42:24you that mark walberg would be cool it's a cool character actually speaking about the 4x4x48
42:29what was your kind of looking back at it what was your high point what was the low point um
42:37low point
42:38was
42:43low point i think
42:46only stands out as the
42:50say like the knees or or actual actual physical um limitation because i feel cardio
42:59wise or or on a on a decent run i can be quite okay and that's what we do training
43:04wise but i
43:05didn't expect that kind of you know you feel pain in weird areas and and i thought that probably
43:13um that limits you right the last last few runs what i was actually really really happy about was
43:22the fact that you messaged in a week before and i was just like
43:25all right i'll do this and i didn't really know the extent of
43:28the challenge or how much running it actually is and then
43:31you kind of look at it and you go
43:33holy shit guys this is this is a fair bit of running oh actually there's gonna be no sleep
43:37there's gonna be you know um
43:40and
43:41seeing you guys the energy that you brought to it you know i'd arrive dead at
43:454am and you guys the speaker on up jumping doing warm-ups and everything you know it
43:50gets you going but it shows you as well that
43:53hey it doesn't matter you know probably never going to be
43:56more tired in my life yet those things are achievable still in that state of mind and
44:02um i think we're all guilty of having a 10-hour sleep and waking up and going i'm tired but
44:08actually actually that just proves to me that you're not you know you do 48 hours running with
44:15with an hour of sleep in between if you're lucky and and um you feel pretty good so that was
44:21massive
44:22positive for me looking back at that and how it's changed how i feel for each day since then i
44:28think
44:28you get a really good understanding of your body that's huge me that's huge i don't know if that's
44:33correct or incorrect it's how i feel i don't know if you guys felt the same thing no i had
44:37i had that
44:37last year you guys done it twice now right that's the second like after like after the first time
44:42i did it i just felt like i could really do anything after that yeah it was like you like
44:47you wake up and i know that you felt it as well you wake up at 4am and you're like
44:55don't want to get out now and then once you do like at what point of the like what at
45:03what point
45:03of the runs were you like okay this is actually fun did you ever have that point or was it
45:08like
45:09until the end was like no no no no definitely was um i found it way better when we were
45:15together i
45:16think there was a run maybe three to go i dropped off you guys and you guys did a really
45:21good you
45:22guys sprinted off i think i did that one more or less solo it was at the same pace that
45:27we've been
45:27doing the others but that was the point where you realize um how nice it is running really good
45:34with people yeah that yeah i think that was that was probably the only thing that i took out of
45:39as
45:39well whereas um you know you wake up at 4am you're like oh shit this is tired you get there
45:45and you see everyone else and you all joke about how tired you are and it makes it fun straight
45:50away you'll you'll start laughing you all this music plan is police telling you this be quiet
45:57but then it's not complaining to all the drug dealing kids at the parking lot it's weird stuff
46:03weird stuff happening at night in monaco somewhere yeah but it's uh it's true that when you when you
46:09share moments with others it just becomes easier to do the stuff that isn't maybe too fun yeah it's not
46:16fun to stand there at 4am trying to get warm imagine doing it by yourself impossible yeah
46:21it's just harder no but honestly you even have done the hard part which is the staying home
46:27sort of alone waking up there you know getting in the car by yourself driving to the place
46:32you know speaking yourself into it imagine at my place you guys had 12 when you're staying there
46:38at eight eight eight guys in one place there were no beds for everyone there were no kitchen for
46:45there were no bathrooms for everyone but at least waking up you would know that there would be one
46:50guy at least that would be pumped yeah for the next run and then it just it compounds i felt
46:56as well
46:56after every run you guys were always the last to leave first to arrive we tried i'm so happy that
47:01you i'm so happy that you've noticed that because that was really what we tried completely we really
47:06tried to make sure that you know if you would put the time aside to say i'm gonna spend my
47:11friday
47:11night saturday and sunday to try and challenge myself we would be putting in everything to make
47:17sure that you have a good time that was really appreciated that was really cool cheers mate cheers
47:22very kind and um i was just happy that you for example with everything going on still wanted to take
47:29the time and and spend two days doing one thing which necessarily isn't going to directly improve
47:38your driving but indirectly maybe you can take something away from it could be cool maybe i think
47:42it's just nice to challenge yourself right exactly it doesn't matter what you do it's awesome yeah
47:47and with uh 37 races entered so far in formula e the next challenge is up ahead for you race
47:5438
47:54dang i didn't know that i didn't know that a little fact there okay there we go i thought it
47:59was funny
47:59with your racing number yeah do you have a name for your race car does it have it no then
48:06what was
48:06your first car like your first car that was your own you drove around i so when i was living
48:14in the uk
48:16um just i guess financially but i was um living with my great auntie and she she had a uh
48:28like a ford ka yeah so i'd be driving that day to day but i so i never owned a
48:35car i was always just
48:35i was on the bus i was borrowing friends cars didn't have insurance you know just being a complete idiot
48:41and driving driving safely but in terms of not having insurance and those kind of things
48:47i was always um just trying to get from a to b and then uh then in japan i i
48:54bought a
48:55washington 97 togo that's my first car nice i was probably stupid but felt cool you're just acting
49:05off hand from togo drift every night there after training and that become my become my daily ride
49:11so then i had um i had a really cool gym there i think um it also brought a lot
49:18of routine for my
49:19my life so my last two years i was i was at a place um they only have athletes and
49:25and models
49:27yep yep models
49:30and um but they they do uh like everything to support my life outside of so it's outside of racing
49:39or your
49:39sports so it's your recovery it's nutrition there um a good cafe there that's they take the
49:47micronutrients of every bit of food and your lifestyle and and then you've got your trainer
49:54and your training as well so i'd be there from like nine to twelve most days and uh not that's
50:00not always just three hours training that's maybe one hour training and two hours something else
50:04whatever it was um but i just love driving across the bridge and driving the training and
50:09love that love that simple pleasures you know do you have a name for that car no no i do
50:15it's uh
50:16when you're moving to monaco it's actually called a pain in the ass yeah
50:22this is true monaco does have its faults there
50:25it's a pain in the ass right around town
50:28all right so yeah it ended up being something i had to to sell within two weeks and get rid
50:33of yeah
50:33fair enough it's fair enough oh you brought it from no i bought it in japan was yeah there but
50:39i i
50:39you left it there all right fair i've been quite distant to get that over here yeah well we um
50:46i mean i i'm i'm really happy with uh with uh with our lovely chat here
50:51mate if you're happy i'm happy that's awesome that's very happy as well so we're all happy then
50:57and uh with those happy vibes maybe we shall see the episode off yeah thank you guys thank you nick
51:04thank you for joining us thank you guys for listening yeah thanks for taking the time mate appreciate it
51:10no really cool having a chat um yeah it's awesome good fun that was good fun it's nice we have
51:17some
51:17good laughs yeah indeed well uh in that case thanks for listening guys yeah and uh happy days ciao
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