00:00People stop me since we wrote the song till today.
00:03They share a lot of their stories.
00:05I use music the same way.
00:07However I'm feeling or whatever is happening is always enhanced by what I need to hear.
00:20I'm pretty sure we wrote the song around 88.
00:23Rich has an idea and then he plays it to me.
00:26That always dictates the theme to me, but in an emotional way more than the lyric themselves.
00:34So there was something melancholy about it and there was something longing about it.
00:38That was really the impetus for where the hatchling comes from.
00:45She never mentions the word addiction in certain company.
00:48The character in the song knows they have a drug problem, but they don't want to talk
00:54about it.
00:54The idea of this song is like in private.
00:58You know, but you're not supposed to.
01:00She'll tell you she's an orphan after you meet her family.
01:03It's a self-deprecating line like, yeah, I have a mom and dad, but I'm an orphan.
01:08You know what I mean?
01:09If you feel out of place in your family.
01:11You're one of those people who are like, how could this be my family?
01:15That's the subtext of where this character is.
01:21She paints her eyes as black as night now.
01:23She pulls her shades down tight.
01:26Yeah, she gives a smile when the pain comes.
01:28The pain's going to make everything all right.
01:31That part of it, you know what I mean?
01:32It's just the way she looks and the way in my mind the character would be easy to realize
01:37that she was into drugs.
01:40And then the other part is, of course, drugs work.
01:43There's a reason people want to blot out the pain in their life.
01:46Since we've been human beings, people find ways to numb themselves.
01:50Part of it is shameful, she's doing it in her own world and she doesn't want people to know,
01:57but everyone knows.
01:58It's kind of like, you think you're keeping it together, but you're really not.
02:01But also knowing somewhere within the character that they want to change, maybe.
02:06That they realize that this is destructive.
02:18The chorus is more about her also being high and being able to access these other realms.
02:24You can call them angels, you can call them spirits or whatever.
02:26Maybe because she's going through this painful episode might even make her more available
02:31to see through the thin veil of reality to other realities around her.
02:35But I put it in this sort of southern gothic context.
02:51I don't know where that came from to be honest.
02:55That she had lost a child.
02:57I'm not saying the child, maybe she had a child and gave it up for adoption.
03:00I don't know.
03:00I like a lot of loose ends in my songs.
03:02I like people to fill in the blanks.
03:04But that line was about, oh, okay, I'm doubling down on why this person is where they are.
03:10And that would be a trauma to lose a child, especially young.
03:24The pinpoint of light in the darkness of the song is that she's in on this too.
03:28And that underneath all of it, she's a good person and she's young and she's going through
03:33this.
03:33In the same way, it's up to her to navigate.
03:37You know, no one else can do those things except you.
03:42I do want to congratulate you on your second consecutive Hall of Fame.
03:46Yeah.
03:46Yeah.
03:47How do you feel?
03:47It feels nice.
03:48It feels nice to be included.
03:50Yeah, I mean, I think especially when you have a new record and you're in this kind of cycle,
03:53it's exciting.
03:54No one more than us realizes the importance and the respect we have for the material that
04:00people love.
04:00I mean, I didn't really dream of this per se or winning awards or stuff.
04:05We dreamed of just being in a band and being on the road and what kind of adventures and
04:11what kind of madness we could get into.
04:13And we chose our art as rock and roll.
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