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00:02Previously on Toxic.
00:04We've all seen Bad Vegan, we know the story.
00:07But after Anthony went to jail, where did he go and what did he do?
00:11Listen up, you old .
00:14Dearest Anthony, you stole from my family.
00:17You're a dickhead and a liar.
00:19He asked myself and Lindsay combined,
00:23we'll give him $150,000.
00:25We're doing a documentary on Anthony Stranger.
00:27Absolutely not, no.
00:30He's a world-class con man.
00:32My brother has ruined a lot of people's lives.
00:34Allegedly, Anthony is leaving a string of victims in his wake
00:38and he's doing it in the sickest way possible
00:40by leveraging people's love and trust in him, family and friends and otherwise,
00:44and he needs to be exposed.
00:46That could be him.
00:47Dog in the car.
00:47That definitely could be him.
00:50Hi.
00:55When it comes to love, betrayal is the death of a thousand dreams.
00:59Army Elizabeth, who are you?
01:03In the unraveling of countless lies,
01:06you can spend years picking up the pieces,
01:09examining them, rearranging them,
01:13digging through the past to make sense of it all.
01:17Navigating through my personal heartbreak
01:19took me back to my roots as an investigative journalist.
01:21Hi, I'm Elizabeth Chambers.
01:23Elizabeth Chambers.
01:24Elizabeth Chambers.
01:24Elizabeth Chambers outside the Los Angeles Police Department.
01:27It ignited a curiosity inside of me about love that fractured.
01:31Oh my God.
01:32Inflicts lasting trauma.
01:34Hi, I wanted to see if they could ask you some questions.
01:36Absolutely not.
01:37And can lead to tragedy.
01:39And that's when my world ended.
01:41I feel that it's part of my calling to meet with the victims,
01:44the survivors, to listen to their stories,
01:48show how it can happen to anyone and expose the truth.
01:54I'm Elizabeth Chambers, and this is Toxic.
02:05I've spent months following the path of alleged victims
02:08Anthony Stringas has left in his wake.
02:10He's stolen more than a million dollars
02:12and has ruined so many lives without any indication of slowing down.
02:16What if I told you that he served his time in prison,
02:19he was completely reformed, and he's not conning anyone anymore?
02:23What would you say?
02:24I would find that very, very hard to believe.
02:27This is his wiring, and it's destructive, and he's not, you know,
02:32there's no reforming him.
02:33It's just not possible.
02:35And I'm almost positive that, like, without knowing anything more,
02:39I could probably list out a bunch of things,
02:41and the odds are I'd be right.
02:42Things that make us a good target, because I've just seen this pattern.
02:47Being smart is important.
02:49Being compassionate, being idealistic, being very trusting,
02:53you know, assuming that people are good,
02:55being a bit of an introvert.
02:57It's easier to manipulate somebody who tends to spend a lot of time alone.
03:01A tendency towards having a lot of compassion for animals,
03:05and so it's very common to have a rescue dog.
03:07And it's like, of course, of course she has a rescue dog.
03:14I am on a mission to find alleged con man Anthony Strangus,
03:17in an effort to prevent him from destroying even one more life.
03:22My hunt for Anthony Strangus led us to Austin, Texas,
03:25where an address popped up for Anthony and a woman,
03:28potentially his new girlfriend.
03:30And where my team is about to knock on what we believe is his door.
03:38Hi!
03:53She's coming back, she's coming back.
03:58Bad news boys.
03:59What's that?
04:00A kid and a mother answered the door.
04:07Um, she was like, no, there's no one here by that name.
04:11I thought they lived here.
04:12How long have you been here?
04:13About a year.
04:15So.
04:22Anthony not being at this address kind of felt like an intentional red herring.
04:27Katherine, is it possible that he would have entered this address
04:30into the database just to throw people off?
04:33The fact that it hasn't been that easy and it normally is,
04:37he has obviously eluded us.
04:40I want to know how he did it.
04:42Obviously disappointing news, but we'll keep pushing on.
04:47At this point, we knew it was going to be a lot harder than we originally thought.
04:52But we did have one new clue.
04:55Anthony's potential girlfriend, who we'll refer to as Jane Doe.
04:59Attached to the same address in Austin and the car registered to Anthony.
05:04I just kind of want to go back to the drawing board and see what else I can dig up.
05:14Catherine continued digging and calling for help from her network.
05:19And she found another address shared by Anthony and Jane Doe.
05:23A PO box in Waco, Texas.
05:27She also found a new vehicle for Jane Doe, which was also linked to Anthony.
05:32She's driving a BMW .
05:35Okay.
05:36Showing a lot of activity going back and forth from Florida, which is Anthony's home state.
05:41What's the city?
05:42Palm Coast.
05:43Palm Coast.
05:44Palm Coast.
05:44And Texas.
05:46Including...
05:47The car was also in Texas.
05:49Waco, Texas.
05:50One hit in Waco.
05:53Okay.
05:54Bye.
05:56So the link between this woman and Anthony was becoming stronger.
06:00But then the trail went cold.
06:03For months, there were no new license plate pings.
06:06No new addresses for Anthony or Jane Doe.
06:10I continued on, diving into other stories to share.
06:14And my hunt for Anthony and my pursuit of accountability for Sarma, Michaela, Eddie, became more and more distant.
06:25How are you?
06:26Nice to meet you.
06:27Nice to meet you.
06:28Thank you so much for being here.
06:29Sure.
06:30Until I sat down with Harry Litsky for an entirely different story I was covering.
06:34On a whim, I told Harry, a former investigator for the DEA, CIA, and Department of Justice, about my search
06:41for Anthony.
06:43And he agreed to try to help.
06:50Hello, Harry.
06:51Hey.
06:52How are you?
06:53I am doing well.
06:54I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you helping us with this.
06:57Happy to help.
06:59All right.
07:00So what do you need for us to find him?
07:03In terms of what you can provide, I can use everything.
07:06Names he's used, aliases, date of birth, girlfriends, relatives, last known address, current address if you have it.
07:14He's 6'3", big dude.
07:16Big boy.
07:17He claims to have a military background.
07:19He tells people he's special forces.
07:21We think he's probably in Texas or Florida.
07:25He's still active on social media?
07:27On Twitter?
07:28If he is, it's under...
07:30Or do you think he's still active in scanning people?
07:32Is he still looking for a new victim?
07:34In the words of one of his victims, I said, if I told you that he is reformed after prison
07:40and he's a completely different person who's living a life above board, what would you say?
07:45And she said, I would tell you that you're absolutely crazy and there's not a chance in hell.
07:50So based on his track record, it's a good possibility.
07:53I think he's just getting better.
07:55I think he's getting better with each victim and I think he's getting smarter.
07:58He is a very, very intelligent person.
08:00I mean, the thing is, he got married, took the woman's last name, he has so many aliases, and if
08:07people haven't seen this documentary about him, nobody has any reason to believe that he could be a gambling addict
08:14that keeps stealing money from people.
08:17Right.
08:18That's why I want to find him, to prevent anyone else from being victimized.
08:22This is helpful. I mean, it's a, it's a good start. It's more than a lot of cases I've worked.
08:28The fact that this guy has been so elusive, has managed to avoid capture by other PIs, by you and
08:34your staff, means that we might be looking in what we think is the right place and it's not the
08:40right place.
08:41Between my street law enforcement, my intelligence community service, and my white collar and fraud background, I like to think
08:48I'm better situated than most.
08:49I have had a decent history of finding people who prefer not to be found. So we just got to
08:54get in front of them.
08:57So this is the guy?
08:58This is the guy.
08:58There he is.
08:59December 1988, there he is. So the three names, Anthony P. Strangis, Anthony P. Knight, Anthony Knight. This Austin address
09:07is the last one that we have. This is where we did our stakeout. He 100% does not live
09:11there. It was a mom and her son. They're not hiding anything.
09:14See, the Ormond Beach, Florida. Well, that was only last year.
09:17Mm-hmm.
09:19Can you search that address and see who the homeowner is?
09:22Yep.
09:23Any of those names?
09:26Yes.
09:27Yeah. She's also got the P.O. Box.
09:30Okay. It's her vehicle that we're tracking. That's her license plate number. This is Major. This is Major. This is
09:37who we think he's with.
09:38So that's the best lead.
09:40The database that Harry pulled up showed several addresses between Anthony and this Jane Doe.
09:45This is interesting.
09:47Yes.
09:49What's interesting?
09:50But even more shocking were the numbers that were listed for her former employers.
09:54She has phone numbers that come back to defense contractors.
10:02Lockheed Martin, Raytheon Company.
10:06If somebody provides their employment phone number to, you know, whoever, um, whether sign up for an account, open a
10:14credit card, whatever it is, that's how it ends up getting here.
10:17The fact that she's got two different defense contractors sort of screamed she was in that kind of line of
10:22work.
10:23So she could have a clearance.
10:25Anthony's always identified as military, always attracted to people in the military, and always really gravitates towards that profile. This
10:35is huge.
10:37Yeah. That's scary.
10:38Is she a potential victim, or do we think she's helping him?
10:41Nobody helps Anthony.
10:43So he could be taking advantage of her right now?
10:45Anthony's incapable.
10:46Correct.
10:47And she might be working in defense contracting?
10:51Correct.
10:53I wouldn't be surprised if she has no idea, and he will, he will have moved in with her. They'll
10:59be living together.
11:00The employer that Harry found for Jane Doe was listed in Arizona. I mean, he could be in Arizona.
11:06Yeah, there's definitely a connection there.
11:09So I will go on socials. I'm going to start doing this research. I have her email address. I have
11:14her phone numbers. I'm going to get the license plate to you, and then let's reconvene.
11:20This is very exciting. It feels like there's hope.
11:22All right. I like it. Game on.
11:24Game on.
11:28Everyone in Anthony's life is a potential victim.
11:33Jane Doe, who we just found out works for U.S. defense contractors, may have no idea who she's dealing
11:39with.
11:40We have a huge new lead, but with that, so many more questions.
11:45How much does she know? Has Anthony spun another web of lies?
11:50If she is his newest victim, what does he want with her?
11:56And what would he do to get it?
12:04As my team looked deeper into Jane Doe and Anthony, I received a court document that shed new light on
12:10the psychological and sexual abuse allegations raised by Sarma.
12:14Overall, it was, you know, psychological and financial. Later on, grotesquely, it was sexual.
12:22So I got my hands on this memo, which was sent from Sarma's original lawyer to the judge in 2016.
12:31There are allegations in this document that paint a picture that is far more troubling than anyone knows.
12:39Mr. Estrangas began controlling all aspects of Sarma's personal and professional life, utilizing the time-tested control tools available to
12:46him as an experienced domestic abuser and conman.
12:49Mr. Estrangas controlled all of her everyday activities, including access to her cellular phone, access to her social media, access
12:57to her family and friends, when and where she was to travel, and demanding that he be given access to
13:02all of her passwords, including those for the business banking relationships.
13:06Sarma was often without any means of communication. If this is true, she was essentially a prisoner.
13:13Not only does this memo go into detail about the ways that he controls her, it also goes into some
13:17pretty dark stuff and includes some text messages between the two.
13:22Most importantly and tragically, he also used violence. Mr. Estrangas repeatedly raped Sarma, forcing her to commit sexual acts against
13:29her will.
13:31In G-chat messages, the following exchange occurred between Sarma and Mr. Estrangas.
13:35Sarma, you have no idea the loathing I feel for you.
13:39Estrangas, yes I do, but I also know the love. I know what could be.
13:44Sarma, you don't humiliate and rape someone you love.
13:51Sarma, you're the best wife ever.
13:53Sarma, you are the greatest raping, torturing, f***ed up, manipulative, lying, quote unquote, husband ever.
14:01I heart you.
14:04So, we didn't see any of this in Bad Vegan.
14:06They didn't touch on this.
14:08And this is not direct proof, but she's calling him a rapist and he's not refuting it.
14:13He's not responding. He's not saying, I didn't rape you. What are you talking about?
14:21It's heartbreaking. This is heartbreaking.
14:23I don't know why these sexual abuse charges were not brought against Anthony.
14:27This has moved beyond the finances.
14:29Sarma is repeatedly calling him a rapist in writing.
14:33Knowing what I went through and the dark, dark, destructive nightmare of it is painful.
14:42But I know he's not going to feel remorse.
14:44I know he's not going to suffer in any way that we might suffer because we all have, you know,
14:48most of us have a conscience.
14:49So, it's like there's no point in, like, harboring resentment against him.
14:53It's almost like being angry at, like, a spider that bit you.
14:58You know, it's like he's the spider.
15:00Mm-hmm.
15:01You just want him, you know, neutralized so he's not going to bite somebody else.
15:07Strangus, to his court-appointed attorney, denied all allegations, but did not elaborate on his denials in responding to 80
15:12questions from Vanity Fair.
15:19So, this is where the stakes that were high before become urgent.
15:24The fact that, yes, he's a con man.
15:27Yes, he did his time for conning people out of money.
15:31Fine.
15:32But now we're talking about a man who is presumably walking the streets of free man,
15:36who allegedly has the capability, the history, of raping his victim.
15:46I knew at this point I wasn't just searching for Anthony Strangus.
15:51It's very possible that Anthony has his new girlfriend caught in a con like he did with Sarma just a
15:57decade ago.
15:58Only now it seemed possible that she could be at more risk than we ever knew.
16:04And if she was, I had to let her know.
16:07So my team and I start searching for this Jane Doe.
16:10And the very next day, we find a profile that looks like a perfect match.
16:16Holy .
16:17This is .
16:18This is .
16:19That's the dog.
16:20Yes, yes, yes, yes.
16:21That's the same dog from the pictures.
16:23Right, right, right, right.
16:24She asked for a Republican, so Harry put us on the path.
16:26Now we're taking all the information Harry just gave us and running with it.
16:31Where did that picture come from?
16:32Her Facebook.
16:34This is .
16:35This is like the girl that we believe Anthony's with.
16:38In the picture, she's holding a dog.
16:41That's important because the last time Anthony spoke to Mikayla, he sent a picture of that dog.
16:47This dog.
16:53So we know that this dog belongs to who basically looks like a brunette Sarma.
17:00We know that Anthony can't be alone.
17:02We know he's not living alone.
17:03We know he's not in jail, and we don't think he's dead.
17:06But we also know his pattern.
17:08He goes from woman to woman to woman.
17:10So our goal has been to find the woman he's currently with because he's been very quiet.
17:15No one's spoken to him.
17:16Mikayla hasn't spoken to him.
17:17His mom hasn't heard from him.
17:18We have found .
17:20And where there's a .
17:22We believe there's an Anthony.
17:26My pursuit of con man, Anthony Strangas, had new life.
17:31And while Anthony is notoriously impossible to track down, the woman we believed is his
17:36new girlfriend and potential new victim was not.
17:41This woman ticked all the boxes.
17:43Outspoken Republican.
17:45Dogs that match the photos that Anthony sent Mikayla.
17:48And we confirmed that she worked for a U.S. defense contractor in Arizona.
17:54I asked both Katherine and Harry to pursue this new lead.
17:57And we hit the mother load.
18:02Not only were they able to locate an address in Arizona for both Anthony and Jane Doe.
18:08They were also able to place the BMW at that same location just a few weeks prior.
18:15With this new lead, it felt like there was a really good chance that I was actually going
18:20to be able to find Anthony and Jane Doe.
18:23But I knew I had to act fast.
18:26Harry agreed to join me and met me in Arizona where he'd already spent a few days investigating
18:31and had some new intel.
18:34You've had a bit of a head start.
18:36I have.
18:37It's been a productive couple of days.
18:39Okay, good.
18:39Good.
18:40I want to hear everything.
18:41Okay, so the vehicle, which was sort of our best lead, I don't think is in play any longer.
18:48Okay.
18:48The reason I say that is because the last time it was seen was late March into early April.
18:55And the very last place it was seen for a week, it was in an industrial area down by the
19:01airport.
19:04I went down there, put eyes on, and it's like an impound lot.
19:08Hmm.
19:09Like a normal towing lot?
19:11It looks like a towing company.
19:13Did you see the vehicle there?
19:15I didn't.
19:15I've been by the apartment.
19:16I sat there for three and a half hours around, you know, come home time.
19:21Mm-hmm.
19:21Between 4 and 7.30, and it never showed up.
19:24Could be that they were out late that night.
19:26So I went by the next morning at 5.30 a.m.
19:29It wasn't there.
19:30Every time I've been back since at varying times during the day, nothing.
19:33Are we sure this is the address?
19:34I have like PTSD from our last situation where we're at this apartment complex for two days
19:40and no sign of that, no trace.
19:43Um, so yesterday I went by and they have an intercom system out because it's a gated community.
19:49Yeah.
19:49And it has the ability to scroll through a directory listing.
19:52Yeah.
19:52And his current alias, Anthony Knight, was listed in a directory.
20:01That's huge.
20:02That's huge.
20:02That's huge.
20:04That's huge.
20:10So his current alias, Anthony Knight, was listed in a directory.
20:16That's huge.
20:18Yeah.
20:18So the apartment complex might be our best play at this point.
20:21But her name, interestingly, was not on the directory.
20:25Is that listed at all?
20:26She's not listed at all.
20:27Weird.
20:28So that's weird.
20:29That is really weird.
20:29The primary address for her is a UPS store P.O. box about a mile from the apartment.
20:36Weird that she'd have a P.O. box when she has an apartment here.
20:40In Waco, she had a UPS store associated with her too.
20:43And then looking back at her history, you know, before that in Florida, she never did.
20:50Or none that I could see.
20:52Not until she met Anthony.
20:52Right.
20:53Post Anthony, it seems that she transitioned to, you know, the style of P.O. box.
21:01Well, this is very good.
21:02That's very promising.
21:03I think that we are already, you know, several steps closer just by saying his name on the
21:09call box.
21:09So I think we need a game plan.
21:11I mean, there's a number of, you know, ruse approaches we can do.
21:14We could use the UPS store, the P.O. box.
21:17We could drop the package off.
21:18And that's also a way to get some intel, potentially, right?
21:21So if we walk in and say, hey, listen, I don't know the exact box, you know, they might
21:25say like, oh, they packed up and left.
21:27Right?
21:28So it might be a quick way to figure out what we're dealing with.
21:31Here's what I think we do.
21:31I think we do the P.O. box delivery.
21:34And try to get in touch with Jane Doe and warn her about Anthony.
21:38I think we need to go to the impound lot.
21:41Right.
21:41He doesn't want anyone finding him.
21:43He doesn't want anyone calling him out.
21:44Yeah.
21:44And yet here we are doing just that.
21:47And you never know what's going to happen.
21:49So I'm just like, what advice do you have for me in terms of doing this?
21:55You know, if I see anything that's concerning, you know, that I think it's starting to go
21:59south, I will make it clear, thank you for your time.
22:03Let's, you know, let's get out of here.
22:05You never know what a caged animal's going to do.
22:09We have one chance to get this right.
22:15I think we should just pop by the impound lot and see if we can get inside and then
22:21speak to someone and show them a photo of the car.
22:24Well, it's certainly worth a second look.
22:26I absolutely agree.
22:27And maybe, who knows, we get some kind of intel that's helpful.
22:30The car was there for two weeks.
22:31The car was there for a long time.
22:33They have to know the story and they have to know from where it was towed.
22:36They certainly do.
22:37Whether or not they share that with us, right?
22:39Right.
22:39So this is going to be it, right?
22:42Right here.
22:43Yeah, this is the lot.
22:46Okay, so this is the lot where the car was last seen.
22:51It was here for how long?
22:52It was here for about a week.
22:54And based on the pictures, I think it was parked over there.
22:58Yeah, I don't see it.
22:59There's a Cadillac.
23:00I don't see it.
23:00I mean, the color's kind of the easiest spot.
23:03Let's see if we can find a person who can answer some questions.
23:06Yeah, let's do it.
23:07I'm Elizabeth.
23:08Oh, nice to meet you. How are you?
23:09Nice to meet you.
23:10I need to know the history of one vehicle that was here.
23:12Could you ask your boss and we can give you any information you need?
23:15The impound lot wouldn't let us bring the cameras in, but they allowed us to keep recording
23:19audio while we asked them a few questions.
23:21Well, I have not received anything from the lender to allow you guys to have that information.
23:28Well, was it a repo?
23:29I cannot release any information.
23:32Okay.
23:33It was a repo.
23:34It was a repo.
23:36They obviously can't share a lot of information, but essentially when we asked about the specific
23:42car, she promptly said, we are not able to disclose information from the lender.
23:48And being the professional that he is, Harry said, oh, so it was a repo.
23:52And we got a little slight nod.
23:54And that makes sense.
23:55And that explains the two weeks, why nobody would come.
23:58You know, if you parked badly, your car's gone, you need to get to work, you come down
24:02the next day.
24:03Two weeks, it'll take that long for the bank to make arrangements to dispose of it, sell
24:07it, you know, report the title, you know, back into their name, things like that.
24:12So that tracks perfectly with the time it was here.
24:16And now the story becomes, okay, you know, it gets repoed for a reason.
24:23The car being repossessed weeks ago and never being reclaimed signaled some serious trouble.
24:29And knowing Anthony, he doesn't want to be anywhere near trouble.
24:32I started to wonder if he and Jane Doe were still even in Arizona.
24:37But Harry and I decided to go forward with our next strategy.
24:41If they were still here, they'd have to pick up their mail.
24:44So we decided to go to the UPS store where their P.O. box was located and drop a package
24:48off that they'd have to pick up.
24:51There it is.
24:52There it is.
24:53I think the most important thing is reaching out to her, you know?
24:56I think we have to address it to .
24:58I don't think she knows who she's living with.
25:01She needs to know what she's dealing with here.
25:02And I don't think it needs to be involved.
25:04It's just, what do you think?
25:05Call me?
25:06Yeah.
25:07Simple.
25:07Dear, please call me.
25:14Okay, so we have our box.
25:16We're going to leave this for them.
25:17They will hopefully send her an email or a text saying you have a package that has been
25:22delivered and it's ready for pick up.
25:24And we are going to wait outside.
25:27Going in.
25:35Hello.
25:36How are you?
25:42They called them the .
25:44She said it's for the .
25:47They come in often.
25:48They left a message for her asking if it was okay if I leave it.
25:53And he's going to call me if for some reason she says no.
26:07I got a call.
26:10Hello?
26:11My name is .
26:13Just got off the phone with the UPS store and they said you dropped off a package.
26:34Yes, my name's Elizabeth.
26:36I actually wanted to connect with you.
26:39So we're actually doing a documentary.
26:42Have you ever heard that name?
26:43Anthony Knight or Anthony Strangus?
26:46No, I have not.
26:48Your boyfriend.
26:48Okay.
26:49We were under the impression that he might be your boyfriend or that you had lived together
26:53at one point.
26:55No, that's not true.
26:56I would just recommend strongly that you look into his past.
27:02Okay.
27:04Bye.
27:04Bye.
27:06We got to go to the apartment.
27:07Yeah.
27:07She's going to call him right now.
27:08Right now, she's going to call him.
27:09Yeah, we got to go.
27:10It's the same reaction we had from Mrs. Johnson when we went to the front door.
27:14It's like, nope, I don't know what you're talking about.
27:16I do believe she knows him.
27:18She may not know the whole truth.
27:20She may just be protective.
27:21Yeah.
27:22We're not done yet.
27:24If she is a victim, that can be really hard to admit.
27:27But whether she's under his control or not, I assumed her first move would be to call
27:31him.
27:33This is where the license plate hits came from.
27:36The apartment's sort of on the backside.
27:38So we rushed over to the apartment complex.
27:41So you might want to just pull straight in here.
27:43Right here?
27:44Yeah.
27:45And parked where we couldn't be seen.
27:47In theory, this is where he's going to come out.
27:49But where Anthony would have to walk by if he wanted to leave his apartment.
27:54Now we just got to wait and see if he pops out.
27:59I fully expected Anthony to flee.
28:02My heart was pounding.
28:04My hands were shaking.
28:08But nothing happened.
28:12We don't even know if they still live here.
28:16Do you have a feeling that he's not here?
28:17I didn't know if we had missed him or if he was even there at all.
28:22I couldn't wait anymore to get answers.
28:25So I decided to get them myself.
28:28So I'm going to write this note similar to the one that we put in the box.
28:31It just says to .
28:32Please call me.
28:33It's very important.
28:34Sign my name and phone number.
28:35The point is just to ascertain whether or not they in fact do live here together.
28:53How did it go?
28:54100% confirmed.
28:55She didn't confirm the photo, but she knew .
28:58And I said, wanted to just confirm that her partner boyfriend is Anthony.
29:02And she's like, I cannot confirm that, but I can tell them to come get it.
29:05Oh.
29:06So she confirmed it.
29:08Which confirms the lie.
29:10I now know for some reason that Jane Doe was withholding the truth about knowing Anthony.
29:16But I also knew that nobody was coming or going from the apartment.
29:19So I decided to take a bit of a more aggressive approach.
29:23Okay, we're getting ready to exit the vehicle and head in.
29:25Elizabeth's going to go and do the door knock.
29:27So just everyone heads up and be ready.
29:29Copy.
29:30What could go wrong?
29:40Out of the vehicle and making our way to the Target Department.
29:45It's time to work.
29:46No!
29:47No!
29:49No!
29:50No!
29:52No!
29:52No!
29:53No!
29:53No!
29:55No!
29:57Oh!
29:58The adrenaline is crazy.
30:02so they are definitely in the house they're inside they're inside we can hear them inside
30:07they we knocked once the dogs started barking and then we knocked again the dogs did not bark at all
30:15the dogs were very clearly hushed inside of the apartment which gave it away
30:19when I knocked the second time I knew somebody was in there and that eventually they would have to
30:25come out hey guys we've just repositioned to get a eyeball on the door we think somebody's inside
30:32so we're just gonna stay here for a bit see if they come out we repositioned right outside the
30:40apartment door and kept our eyes glued on the door for hours when the Sun went down not a single
30:46light
30:47came on inside the house as if the person inside if there was somebody inside was clearly hiding from
30:54us stay till 9 do one more door knock see if the dogs are there you know the fact the
30:59dog stopped
30:59barking makes me think somebody's in there I think he's in there I mean at some point the dogs need
31:06to go out yeah it's just weird something's going on like we haven't seen her come home it's really
31:14interesting the neighbor across the way knows him ID'd him but said she hasn't seen him for a month
31:20which is exactly the same time that the BMW disappeared right yeah that timing is interesting
31:29it disappeared got impounded disappeared and so did he
31:43it was now pushing midnight we had been surveilling the apartment for over six hours and there was still
31:51not a sign of life I mean who knows what they do I mean maybe they're at the casino maybe
31:58they there's
31:59dogs there's no dog walker after an 18-hour day we decided to call it we cut the audio we
32:18put down the cameras
32:24and then
32:29he was over there
32:30he was over there
32:51Anthony
32:58he was over there
32:59he was over there
33:00he was over there
33:00he was over there
33:00he was over there
33:00he was over there
33:01he was over there
33:03he was over there
33:04he was over there
33:11he was over there
33:11he was over there
33:12he was over there
33:12he was over there
33:13he was over there
33:13he was over there
33:13he was over there
33:14he was over there
33:27There.
33:34Anthony.
33:36Anthony, hi.
33:37How are you?
33:37Uh, this is private property.
33:39I understand that.
33:40I just want to...
33:40You must have came in here on lawfully.
33:42No, we're not coming here on lawfully.
33:43This is private property.
33:44That's private.
33:45It's not a private community.
33:45I understand that.
33:46Anthony, I've been speaking to Mikayla.
33:48I've spoken to Glenn.
33:49I've been speaking to so many people we've hurt.
33:51No problem.
33:51You don't care.
33:52No problem.
33:52That's...
33:52I don't care who you're talking to.
33:53I have no comment.
33:54Do you have any remorse?
33:56...from 10 years ago.
33:57Do you have remorse for hurting people?
33:58Back here again and calling the cops.
34:00Okay, this is private property.
34:01I don't give you consent to record my voice
34:03or my audio or my video.
34:05This is private property.
34:06All right, no Arizona property law.
34:08You had to have followed someone in
34:09because you didn't ring the gate to get let in.
34:11You're here on lawfully.
34:12You come back and calling the cops.
34:14No comment.
34:15Leave me alone.
34:17What do you say to your family?
34:18What do you say to the people you've hurt?
34:21What do you say about the fact that so many people
34:24are suffering because of what you did to them?
34:30Go back and calling the cops.
34:34Let's go.
34:37We gotta go.
34:38We gotta go. We gotta go.
34:39Okay, he's pissed.
34:44Good eyes seeing the door, Jim.
34:51For six months, I tracked Anthony.
34:55And for a long time, I thought I would never have the opportunity
34:58to meet him face to face.
35:00And then I blinked.
35:01And I had confronted one of the most infamous conmen in America.
35:06It was such a surreal feeling.
35:09I don't care what you're talking to. I have no comment.
35:10Did I say too much?
35:13Did I not say enough?
35:15I got to feel Anthony's manipulation firsthand,
35:18where he tried to turn it back on us
35:20as if we had done something wrong.
35:23As we left the apartment, I was exhausted.
35:26Our camera batteries were completely dead.
35:28Pure pitch black.
35:30Yeah.
35:31But I couldn't sleep that night.
35:33I had a lot of catching up to do in the morning.
35:43Hello?
35:44Sarma.
35:46I wanted to let you know that we found him.
35:50We found him through the woman he's been with for the past year
35:53and went to his home.
35:55My first thought is concern for whoever he's with.
35:59Yeah.
35:59What's her deal?
36:00He's just living with her and that's all we know?
36:03She flat out denied to me, knowing him, knowing anything about him.
36:07I had a conversation with her over the phone.
36:09And she says, I have nothing to do with him.
36:11I don't know this person.
36:12That's weird.
36:13I mean, on paper, she seems like a very normal, put together person.
36:18Nothing nefarious in her past.
36:20No criminal history.
36:21But we also know that that's kind of his type.
36:24Yeah, exactly.
36:25I mean, you know, same with me.
36:27I think odds are obviously extraordinarily high
36:30that she's in a bad situation,
36:32but either doesn't realize it or is afraid of him.
36:35It is interesting too, Sarma.
36:37He was visibly agitated and I could tell he was breathing deeply
36:40and about to lose it.
36:42Yeah, that brings back all these memories.
36:45Like when he breathed heavy out of his nose,
36:48it reminded me of like a bull, you know?
36:50Mm-hmm.
36:51Mm-hmm.
36:52And then did he just end up going back in his house
36:54and slamming the door?
36:55He did.
36:56He threatened to call the police,
36:57which I'm like, please, call the police on yourself.
37:01Yeah, that's amazing.
37:02He responded exactly in the way we anticipated him responding,
37:07both verbally and physically.
37:08He was extremely visibly agitated, angry.
37:12I mean, he was emotional.
37:13He got like, he was breathing really heavily.
37:15His posture changed.
37:16I think that's even part of the con.
37:19You think?
37:19I mean, I don't know how long ago you found him,
37:21but he's probably right now trying to figure out,
37:24is the heat really on?
37:26Do I need to skip town and start again?
37:28The disappointment that you're seeing in him may be
37:30that he hasn't run the full grift yet,
37:33just like in Orange County.
37:36You know, he didn't finish that one.
37:42I'd done what I set out to do.
37:45I found Anthony Stringus and I confronted him.
37:49But did I do enough to warn and protect
37:51another possible victim?
37:54The fact that I still hadn't figured out
37:56Jane Doe's place in all of this haunted me.
37:59Why didn't she tell me the truth about knowing him?
38:03If she is his latest victim,
38:06are his claws in her that deep?
38:08Was it shame and embarrassment over being tricked?
38:11I had so many questions.
38:13Would Sarma have reacted that way
38:15had I called her back then?
38:17I tried calling Jane Doe again,
38:19hoping to get through to her.
38:23The person you're trying to reach is not available.
38:25At the tone, please record your message.
38:29Hi, this is Elizabeth Chambers again.
38:31I genuinely just want to make sure that you are okay.
38:34I want to make sure your dogs are okay.
38:36I want to give you a space to talk.
38:38It can be on the record.
38:39It can be off the record, whatever.
38:41So if you would, please give me a call back.
38:44I look forward to hearing from you
38:45and I will hopefully speak with you soon.
38:47Bye.
38:50I never heard back from Jane Doe after that call.
38:53She disabled her LinkedIn
38:54and scrubbed her social media.
38:57My hope is that if Anthony is still conning
39:00and if she is his latest victim,
39:03then this intervention caused her to look deeper,
39:06to question who Anthony really is.
39:12Mikayla, I said words to Anthony on your behalf,
39:16but what would you say to him directly?
39:18I would say Amp, I love you and I miss you.
39:24But at this point, until he actively has changed his life
39:31and not in rehab and in therapy and no longer gambling at all,
39:37I wouldn't ever associate myself with him again.
39:42But if I was saying anything to anyone else, I would be saying to never involve yourself with him.
39:50And I think it's important to take that me saying I miss him doesn't mean that he's a good person.
39:59He's just my brother.
40:01As I reflect on the months spent following the trail of alleged victims Anthony left in his wake,
40:06I'm grateful to all the people who spoke with me and shared the impact Anthony had on their life.
40:12But with each new story I learned, it was Sarma who weighed heaviest on my mind.
40:19Everyone else, Mikayla, Eddie, Glenn, the Johnsons,
40:23were all left rebuilding a piece of their life Anthony damaged.
40:27Sarma didn't just lose a piece of her life.
40:30She lost almost everything to Anthony's manipulation and coercion.
40:34And she's still, to this day, reclaiming what he took from her.
40:39I hope now we have set the record straight about Anthony Strangas and his alleged cons.
40:46I'm just proud of you. Honestly, I'm really proud of you.
40:48We've all been through , but you've been through some deep, deep, deep ,
40:51and especially doing it alone.
40:53Like, I feel like I'm doing that in my own way,
40:56but I think a lot of people look up to you, and I really hope this story inspires.
41:26Well, I'm proud to be here for you.
41:27I'm proud to be here for the David's last meeting I could start to.
41:27That doesn't do it.
41:27I know you're so 자�uses.
41:27I can't do it.
41:28You're so and I'm going to do it.
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