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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life, but
00:27I think it's, I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Baedén. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:01growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love, Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:41school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:53cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm going to try to make an acronym. SEXY. This is going to be in relation to, um,
02:20to, eh, Amber and Ice. Um, SEXY.AGMIC. UM.-UNIVERSE.
02:39i have no idea what did i say sexy magic universe um titillating yeah yeah we'll do that titillating
02:51oh you very publicly shot your shot for night wang uh which was extremely fun to watch have you
02:58been a dc fan and what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you especially the ones
03:03that say you have the face the talent and the butt i will be completely honest i when i saw
03:09like some
03:10fan art of you as nightwing i was like blown away whoa like i i i mean you never know
03:17if that's
03:17going to come to fruition or not but yeah i see like someone did you in the comic book style
03:22i was
03:22like i see it right away wow yeah i would i would love to play him i love dc i
03:28love um i loved all
03:31like comic books that were true to the source material um and i think you know there are a
03:40lot of good filmmakers who like bring their own style to these you know beloved um um comics that
03:47i think it would be really great to work with them you know i'm not fully set on nightwing you
03:51know i'm open to other things um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no always
03:59something that's been like i absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's
04:05filmmaker driven so when like a guy like james gunn um or matt reeves you know comes to comics it
04:12i
04:12think that's what draws me um and and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen titans i know
04:18there's
04:18yeah but yeah james gunn he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like ilia in real
04:26life
04:26and connor is more like shane i think me and you are both like rose and i'm like svetlana i
04:33just said
04:34me and you are both like rose but i'm just i'm just parting ways that's so svetlana for you to
04:40say
04:40um i don't know i mean maybe i do feel like ilia i don't know i think that um i
04:48i'm i'm too sensitive
04:49or outwardly sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be ilia i could be a little
04:55cocky
04:55like ilia yeah but beyond that it's like i think shane and ilia sort of share us you know soulfulness
05:03that's kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um masks but i think i think
05:11underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the heart and and their soul
05:17after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales and if true how did that
05:23happen um i did i have a reason for coming up to vancouver i just want to come see yeah
05:29come hang
05:29out am i not good enough right come on yeah i just i don't know why for a second i
05:33was
05:33like i have something to do up there i have nothing to do in vancouver i was there so yeah
05:39i just went up to see um i just came up to see you we knew we wanted to get
05:43matching tattoos i hadn't
05:44gotten a tattoo in forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and yeah i think you came
05:51up with sex but like we were both pitching ideas and then like one person would like them the other
05:56person wouldn't and then when you said sex sales i was like oh we were sold that's the first idea
06:00you've had that's good i think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well so that feels good
06:05the front of my shin pull in here zoom in true or false you ate a pound of beef of
06:13ground beef a day
06:14while filming heated rivalry true um connor told me what his routine was and after i saw him in person
06:21um i asked him how he got to that size i thought he was taking illicit substances he wasn't he
06:28does it
06:28super clean sorry i mentioned illicit substances um but i have nothing to hide bring it on but he was
06:36so just like so i was like what are you eating freak i was like i'm eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that i was like i think that means ground
06:49um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor was actually the person who put
06:56me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know iliac cheeks
07:01um and chests you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac
07:08arrest and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know
07:14pumped up pecs and a shut down fucking you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it
07:19ends that way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one-up this true or false i actually think that
07:25we ate more than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has i think 84 grams
07:30of protein
07:30and you need a solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes i can eat two pounds
07:37of ground beef a day plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was having so much salad
07:42because by
07:43the end i got like gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like and by the
07:47end i was
07:48like 10 pounds heavier and it's because of yeah yeah you i mean you're very inspiring i'm glad that we
07:53had each other because it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going
07:58back to our 12 hour days and then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone
08:02it's
08:02really it's nice that i got to be like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from
08:08a fucking 11
08:09hour day skating lesson and connor would go let's do legs and i and i looked him he's a madman
08:15that's
08:15how he has a butt he'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and
08:21i was like
08:22what are you saying i okay i knew i had a responsibility to the people he's america's ass
08:29and i i take that very seriously romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations
08:36did you feel any pressure being bringing a beloved story to life and how did you approach making the
08:41characters your own it's good i think to go into a project accepting that you know people might be
08:48disappointed especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions
08:52they've visioned they've envisioned these characters they've drawn these characters they've
08:56gotten tattoos of these characters like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is
09:02going to be disappointed all you can do is is read the material as much as you possibly can yeah
09:09and
09:11um and respect it show the respect show the dedication and just hope that people you know
09:17connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm i think we both had that level of whether you
09:22want
09:22to call it nihilism or not like people might just hate this people might hate your casting or they might
09:27hate my casting i'm not going to expect anything more and uh i'm just going to do the best i
09:32can
09:33but you have really no metric of if people are going to be warm to your your take i really
09:39think
09:39at the end of the day all you can do is be really intentional give it a hundred and fifty
09:44percent
09:45yeah just go for it you know and luckily for us this worked out really freaking well
09:55hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you break it down
10:00for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too because i like honestly
10:06i'm just
10:06kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah your skin routine and then
10:12it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm going to tell you in the morning i
10:17use
10:17water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow toner but it's pretty dry it's
10:25not like
10:25i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks like they just wore a
10:29face mask
10:29i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then come talk to me
10:33because i won't
10:34right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um a serum and then sunscreen and
10:42then sometimes
10:42instead of a serum i put on a moisturizer and then my pm routine is an oil cleanser you know
10:48to get out
10:49these blackheads to get the the gunk out um and then i'll either use like a cerave normal ass cleanser
10:56or i'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser that's their new that's their new slogan survey normal ass
11:03cleanser i think that is i yeah i also and then like a poor shrink or a poor shrinking cleanser
11:10if
11:10that's my goal and then the same thing toner serum and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid and
11:16go to sleep so i think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot well i will also say
11:24i mean
11:24it makes sense you have flawless skin so and then when i take it off it just falls apart yeah
11:31he unhooks
11:32the he has the clip back here in the back keeps it all up connor yes story yes do you
11:39have a favorite
11:40spicy scene from heated rivalry and a favorite from ember and ice what makes those stand out for you
11:44my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice is actually a scene where dane is with two former
11:51lovers cassandra and elijah yep i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane
12:03has an
12:04interaction with uh two of his former lovers um after having been with finn for some time
12:10and uh yeah not to spoil but he he ends up realizing that what what really works for him
12:18isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of this moment of identity loss and you know what what
12:24pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think that's really cool because it's also it's because
12:29it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it also is really revealing of the character and the
12:34connection and where he's at you know and i think it's funny i think i remember dane saying something
12:40about um he's like he's like and then the next thing i did was i just had to come up
12:45with uh an
12:45excuse and then he's like he's like my friends i have bad news i have a lot from ember and
12:51ice but one
12:52is the lake scene where we kind of go in together and you kind of coax it out of me
12:57without spoiling too
12:59much i think that one's just you know a lot of times like the intimacy before intimacy i think it
13:05has more of a charge in a way that one really got me um frothing at the mouth and heated
13:11rivalry
13:12favorite intimate scene there's one that was really fun to film do you remember filming the
13:18stair-step scene when we're like kissing against the glass and our lips never come apart me and you were
13:23like do people do this do people like i know it's always a fun balance right of like when you're
13:29filming um separate from like the audio space when you're filming it's like how much of it is fun tv
13:38and then how much of it is like is like true sex because at the end of the day you
13:42know you do have
13:43in real life people do have those those like movie moments where you're like you know you're like yeah
13:48and then everyone on set was like oh yeah no we i've done that and then connor and i were
13:53like oh oh
13:54we usually fold our clothes place them down then go we're both chain naked and go sex now sex now
14:01i'm robot plug me in true or false hudson's roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many times he
14:10flashed them do you know how many times i know that you i've yeah i remember this yep it's true
14:17it was one
14:17roommate um and i i mooned him 31 times what was his reaction when you moved him was he like
14:26hudson
14:28her poor name was chelsea i i've talked with her and chelsea has been like you can say my name
14:33and i was like so i've since talked about this since double like sent uh double consent um and uh
14:39poor chelsea would just go i think her main reaction was like oh hudson and it made me so happy
14:50where where is chelsea now and i i developed different techniques over the years um she's
14:56chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls um but i would go and i'd do like
15:01a drive-by
15:01i had all these different techniques and then she would bring like other you know um romantic interests
15:07home and then they're like what's this tally up on the board and they're like oh that's how many times
15:12hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would you just like kind of butt crack it or
15:17would you full so i had one where i would get pants low like i would de-pants and she
15:23would be
15:23unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and i would run by and jump in the air so
15:28i was like a
15:30like like a like a literal moon a literal moon but in fast motion sometimes i would just do the
15:35like oh
15:36drop something before we leave bend and i'm right there gotcha oh god
15:42yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were gonna moon someone
15:48yeah a close friend chelsea is still my close friend make it and make it known that this is okay
15:52yep she got a do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as an asian
16:01actor
16:01leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for
16:06more people to see you in going forward hmm yeah i i wanna i wanna represent my my wasians out
16:15there
16:15you know um i've been declared do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince of
16:23wajia me i mean i i sign off on it okay i think you he's the final stamp off guy
16:30for this so uh yeah
16:32i'm the i'm the ambassador of wajia as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but as as uh this
16:41um
16:42little wajian i am i hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm happy to
16:51do
16:51roles that are you know race has something to to play in there but also i just want to be
16:55an actor
16:56and a lot of the times i just want to play parts where it's like i'm i'm just there and
17:01we don't
17:02need to go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know i'm playing with any other uh non
17:09person of color would play as well you know you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person
17:14i love it baby on both heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator
17:21why do you think that role matters on projects like this was there anything about the process
17:24that you think would surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question
17:32is i mean it's so important i mean you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing
17:41that
17:41i think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about
17:47and this is what i learned from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about
17:52the actual safety the boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's
17:59okay there's also actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know
18:07was also the voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know
18:12you need to i need to hear that shiver or that i need to hear those um i need to
18:19hear that feeling
18:20through your wings i need to see that come about i need to feel that pleasure in this way so
18:25it's not
18:25always technical even though that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic
18:30sensibility to that job and that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first
18:37ginger ale this is so fun we have canada dry we have schweps we have can you can someone give
18:44me a
18:45rundown of the brand no you're gonna try it and we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from
18:49memory well how about this i'll hold it so we don't we don't give away anything
18:58yeah that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like
19:11um yeah that's my guess it you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada
19:16dries got more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead
19:23and should be de-blindful you god we got you where is this imported from this this is this is
19:35no no
19:36way it says it says from frisco texas nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring
19:45in ginger
19:46l number two that is so embarrassing thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what
19:55is
19:55this one i'm good um num num um num you're my baby drink more okay this is cough syrup this
20:08is
20:09this is yellow snow what is this a pissy pineapple but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the
20:18brand yeah that bye yeah this is schweps okay this one is schweps
20:25it's also gonna try
20:27i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong
20:34i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up
20:44give me another one do you have more bring me bring in how many more bring in the last to
20:51me
20:53oh this one's a hard one thank you
20:59oh no
21:04uh-huh
21:09that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer hudson what what what there's a there's a secondary flavor
21:25do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full som vibes do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's ginger pear
21:43fucking it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to under you can't taste
21:48that flavor at all what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food coloring in
21:56you didn't put no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though
21:59that one's that one's nice i like all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed
22:04it
22:05when did you first realize you clicked and what are some of your favorite memories from working
22:10together i would say our first facetime outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was
22:16always shane he was always ilia but then when we first met over facetime before we went to toronto
22:22um we had so many like so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked
22:31and similar
22:31approaches to how we you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there and
22:38and i think that's saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the
22:43fact
22:43that there is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set being in
22:51muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was just great
22:59my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside joke that we
23:05just died over the whole time um we had to storm the set that was also with oh yeah i
23:12would always be
23:13like storm the set if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do it like a
23:19cattle
23:19call we used to joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and stuff where there
23:25would be like you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and we'd have
23:29like
23:29five people and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costumes get up there and
23:36everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage and just like
23:42opening it up to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement
23:49i can't i honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like i
23:57think i look a little too shabby i'm i'm in the process of gaining weight you know now yeah i
24:01was
24:01when you look you look freaking fantastic well bring it back to most of which is garage
24:10yeah um yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care
24:20about
24:20my health i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work out
24:27even more yeah so what drew you to doing a fey romanicy story and what was it about the script
24:32that hooked you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice you know that's the only
24:40tool you have and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know that there it was a
24:45really fun
24:46way to explore yourself it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's very demanding and it's well
24:51written i think in the booth the term winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway
25:01because there was like war there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a
25:09lot of ways um and that was way heavier than i thought you know this would look like and it
25:16was really
25:16rewarding the story just moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone who
25:25you know is not a big reader i think something like this would be really appealing to me um just
25:30the way it it cycles through the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah yeah i
25:36just
25:36think it's really like almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly
25:42with women right now yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it um
25:50there's so many reasons there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight
25:55women there are trans women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like
26:02a
26:02giant term to be like i know exactly why um you know there's like the element of you can live
26:09vicariously
26:09and you can feel safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered
26:15or thought of um that i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um
26:21and you
26:22are you are taken out of the equation there's and you're you're there's a spectatorship to that
26:31there's like a there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like especially women
26:38um historically being put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to sex and pleasure
26:44it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without um right female
26:51dynamic being yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like when you see like
26:56a hetero
26:58couple you know you default to like relating with or forced to sort of relate with the woman character
27:04um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and too and like imagination a lot of writers you
27:10know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of outdated tropes um old archetypes and i
27:17think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they can kind of relate with this person in
27:21one
27:21moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced into a box of here this is your person to
27:26relate with at the end of the day though we're both men i have no idea what it's like to
27:31be a woman
27:32um yeah and so y'all let us know yeah y'all tell us i think me because i would
27:39just be i'd be drinking
27:42i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table yeah asleep naked but i will say you you're really
27:50freaking athletic and you're really strong and you know how to fight so if it came down to like a
27:55wrestling
27:56match between you and leather face freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning
28:04okay snack time me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than
28:13i do um if something is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like oh
28:20i
28:20become really aware of how do you do that kind of it's not that you left and now now i'm
28:27gonna leave
28:29connor will do the like the like it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and then
28:34and i can't do his laugh do i do that do i do and then he goes do i do
28:38a polly pocket hand
28:42i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself
28:48me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:58not me online more than i am yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and
29:10i'm like why what there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things
29:15yeah heaven eats ass i don't know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it
29:25yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake the what the rake and the cake well you break up
29:36some some
29:37people together and then you ass yeah are these all going to be ass related
29:43they are for me
29:47oh right right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like
29:54the grump
29:54why tubes why is this a love triangle thing mm-hmm threesome
30:00it scares me a little foot in both jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean
30:05don't make me nervous on twitter we're going to react to some tweets you don't scare me connor's
30:09story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too good they'll kill
30:16you you really i mean you end up on delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm cool with that
30:21i feel good um
30:22i i whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank you or if i'm supposed
30:28to
30:29like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples that's it
30:37that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i i saw the receipts
30:45and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all singing it yeah i was i was
30:52seeing it
30:53damn for real i love whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy bullets but because it's a true
31:11yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies you're
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics and character
31:33and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things jacob talks about
31:38this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us um to try and explain
31:45his vision
31:46which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages it can sound very sex heavy
31:51but
31:51to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how they connect um yeah i
31:58think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know for the first years of their life
32:03that's how
32:04they communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know that's not usually how sex is
32:08used in media yeah yeah meteor i need hudson williams to know that so many people imagine draw right
32:16and read about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he knows and even comments on yeah
32:23mara heat arrival updates pointing this out to me i know when i learned that about it's crazy i was
32:29like
32:29whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think that's like i think that's in the
32:35deep fanfic
32:36side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what you freaks you gung-ho you go get
32:42it
32:43you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me knock him up this is another one about
32:51my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor's story deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o
32:58-t-y mean
32:59connor's story asks of the i don't like this tweet it should be asked century hey whoa
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