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00:03mike stone joining us today our number two we will get to some of your phone calls here just
00:08bear with me i want to welcome in a different audience and kind of add in a topic now i
00:13brought
00:14up the wings kenny graded the hockey take as an a minus all i ended up doing was mf in
00:19the tv
00:20and it just the wings are just a big pile of meh you take the names off the jerseys they're
00:26all
00:26interchangeable there's no one special there's no one that steps up there's no one that has juice
00:31and it goes back to what stoney said i mean they just don't have stars no i mean cider yes
00:37he's one
00:38of the top five defensemen in the national hockey league which is fine but but but he's not quinn
00:42use right he's not going to lead you know he's not going to change zones spearhead the attack you know
00:49and and become a difference maker like his quality is not going to save this team right the point i'm
00:56making is we're seven years into this damn thing and i'm watching last night there was nothing
01:02different there's no urgency there's no passion to it i mean i i know it sounds cliche but like watch
01:08the game tampa won every 50 50 puck if it went to the corner tampa was getting it they were
01:15cycling all
01:16the live long day and i know hockey's a strange game where you can kind of get dominated but it's
01:22one but it did feel like tampa beat the hell out of them and i just i asked the question
01:28of like
01:29this team is just an empty husk seven years into this they just don't have people i care about
01:36watching and they sure as hell don't have people capable of stepping up when larkin's out so great
01:42go to dallas saturday night i got to do the same damn thing and hope they win uh so i'll
01:46go out with
01:47your wife and have no i'm i'm not telling you i'm watching every second of that one so i gave
01:50him
01:50last night again i mean it's a stretch drive stoney i'm gonna watch damn near nine out of ten games
01:55i
01:55just i don't enjoy it so here's the other one while i was watching that game i received a missive
02:02from one thomas john lang and tj he goes mike can i ask you a question sure tj he goes
02:13can you explain
02:15to me the bob muhammad thing no tj no i cannot then he goes on a tj diatribe about the
02:23guy had a
02:24really nice year and six million bucks and the whole thing and i asked a question
02:31and i want to look at you when i say this okay because this this warrants eye contact michael okay
02:37did we get lied to last year do you remember last year how they wanted to wave their frankfurter
02:44in your face about being the only team with two ends with double digit sacks and how good bob muhammad
02:51was and essentially you know the gm came on the air told us we're all stupid for thinking they needed
02:58edge help cut scene bob muhammad who i don't love no first for a deal that is worth less than
03:06six
03:06million right he has to hit one year he has to hit every incentive to make six million dollars i
03:12would
03:12have absolutely brought him back his depth did they lie to us now here was part two because i want
03:20an answer to that i want to answer to this part two is this me me me me the can
03:28anyone offer what
03:30their plan is i have said to you i take great pride in doing my job and i really do
03:36try to be
03:36thoughtful i can't give you what their plan is tj offered one idea they're gonna maybe they'll sign
03:47a bunch of old people and old people don't like otas so their signings will be deeper into the
03:54offseason now i made a golden girls joke to him and the chat ended the point is if is tj
04:02right or is
04:03it something else because michael the bob muhammad thing really sticks out to me as a wtf are we doing
04:11moment six million dollars is a rounding error well and he would have made a great rotational edge for
04:16them and uh they also have um some problems uh in the middle of their um defensive line
04:22i know they need a linebacker okay they need corners right okay my point my point is though
04:28that arguably their best defensive lineman last year was who uh roy lopez yes outside aid okay i i'm
04:37in interior yeah okay my bad uh lopez signs to go back to arizona for not for not a lot
04:45of money
04:47so like i i can't figure out you know if brad's cooking what's in the kitchen there's no offered
04:54there's no ingredients i i understand if it's a calace cam blue's 40 or if it's a cam jordan
04:58who's 36 those guys don't want to go to minicamp okay and again tj's not claiming that's the plan
05:05tj was banging his head off a wall going i don't i can't figure it out he offered one suggestion
05:11so
05:11i'm offering it to you the other suggestion did we get lied to no we might have been deceived
05:17because the lions right now from what i understand like the second or third youngest roster in the
05:24national football league and they've getting rid of all their for whatever the reasons glasgow
05:29decker they're getting they got a skipper they got rid of a lot of guys that were up there in
05:34age
05:37this coming year you could call what you want gap year read you know restored year whatever
05:42that's what this year's looks like to me is they're just trying to get young and basically
05:48do a rebuild without without embarrassing themselves to me that's what it looks it's a
05:54stoney claims gap year yeah tj claims maybe they're just going to sign the cast from cocoon
06:00and they all want to sign post otas what suggestion do you have i don't have an answer guys the
06:09bob
06:09muhammad thing really i just kind of looked at it and i'm like all right do whatever you guys want
06:14to do i don't get it and that's not me stumping for a guy who we bust balls about as
06:19a rotational
06:19depth guy i have no problem paying the man four or five million dollars with incentives i didn't want
06:25him starting playing 65 snaps to let him go to tampa i don't understand it and again you could say
06:32well they're going to bring in cam jordan i'd love it that has nothing to do with keeping muhammad
06:36around no that's depth you need it no you can't count on your draft guys to come in and be
06:41great
06:41either away they're also going to put themselves in a position where at pick 17 they're going to have
06:46to well right now they don't they don't have enough players to pinhole one thing but like
06:50they're gonna have to take a tackle and pray to pray to god the guy plays like a pro bowler
06:54yeah
06:54unless you want to start the larry borum experience um but i'd love to know from you guys
07:01i'm open about it i don't understand what they're doing you can tell me tj offered the last
07:07kernel of hope they're just going to sign a bunch of old people one-year deals and if the old
07:13people
07:13can play for a year and they can still make the playoffs great and then the younger players get
07:19better and they're there that's what they're trying to do 248-539-9797 david kenney offer a take we'll get
07:26to the phones wing fans are are welcome and i'd love to hear from lion fans because right now
07:31i feel like there is an immense amount of apathy towards your nfl football team and i'm glad you
07:39said apathy mike because that's kind of the way that i felt about this off season and i tend to
07:44agree with stoney and i think lions fans ought to get good and comfortable with the idea that this is
07:49going to be a gap year because if the strategy is either what stoney said or what tj said we
07:54we can
07:55flowchart right on back to well that's a gap year mentality right i don't i don't think and and
08:02that's fine i guess but that's taking one more year away from your super bowl window which i don't
08:07even really think is a window anymore i think it's a very closing okay but what is what is the
08:13plan
08:14the i think the plan is it stoney's gap year or is it tj saying they're going to sign wilford
08:20brimley from the film the firm i think it's stoney's gap year but based on um intel and
08:27connections i would trust tj more than i trust
08:32no i'm kidding they didn't sign anybody
08:34i was like oh we got something i'm sorry don't do that
08:40i want to i was like whoa stoney i'm so excited yes i'm sorry that was terrible no that was
08:47terrible
08:48of me there'll be revenge coming later in the show come on that was damn it it's just like when
08:53i
08:53patronized rico that ended up meaner than i meant all right well let's go to joe 97 one joe how
09:00you
09:00doing buddy pretty good how you guys doing good friday 13th same to you buddy hey you know the guy
09:08called in on stoney and stoney wanted to get some of his gummies i just want to address him and
09:12some
09:12of the other fans out there you know i've been in the truck my whole life i'm 56 and i've
09:17seen the
09:17modern day good teams in the truck 84 tigers you know the the bad boys early 90s and you know
09:23the
09:23nice wings when those teams were coming together you could always see there's greatness coming there's
09:28good players this is going to be something special and they end up winning right now i talked to my
09:33buddy and they're like delusional because they've had this drought for all these teams and
09:37i say you know in the beginning you see the pistons are doing well and he's like oh this is
09:40going to
09:40be a great team i'm like no they're a good team but not a great team same with the wings
09:45you know
09:46the wings oh this team they're going to go to the cup oh they're a great team no they're a
09:49good team
09:50not a great team and same with the lions you know the lions they're a good team but not a
09:55great team
09:55the fans themselves are sometimes so delusional because they're just they want to win so bad that
10:00they're convinced that this is going to be it you know one good play and that's it but i agree
10:04i don't think the wings have any talent i think i think a guy like you know that we we
10:09get local
10:10guys like hutchinson or or uh you know the local boys and that's great hutchinson's good but he's
10:16not great and and same with the wings you know you get their captain you know he's a local boy
10:21and
10:21and yet he's good but not great but everybody wants to be great and i say sometimes being in detroit
10:27i root for all the teams i love them all but i can you can just always tell when you
10:31have a great
10:32team coming and these are not great teams they're just good teams you know when you get off the
10:36airport you take the uh the escalator downstairs the baggage claim they always have some sign or
10:40whatever welcome this group to do it did they just have a new one just welcome to detroit the city
10:44of
10:45good but not great yeah i mean it's he's not wrong no he's not i mean joe so to answer
10:51the question
10:52what do you believe the lions plan is i don't know i'm with stony i think i think they're just
10:57buying
10:58time just a gap year and they're trying to figure out what they're even doing i don't think they
11:01know what they're doing i think they're trying to just figure out pretending so they don't lose
11:05their job eiserman for instance look if they don't make the playoffs without they're going to but
11:09but he's got to go and i love steve eiserman he's one of my favorite hockey players of all time
11:13i grew up i had a poster on my wall of him but in the end he's not he's not
11:18cutting the gm and
11:19and the lion is in running fans have to dismiss it they can't just keep saying oh because usually
11:23he's a great hockey player he's a local detroit guy it doesn't matter sometimes it doesn't work
11:27out like that you know but yeah i i hate to say it it's just that's how it is and
11:31the lions i can't
11:32figure out what the heck they're doing you know it's just it's just crazy and i think nowadays
11:36seattle proved it you only need a couple years a smart coach not great players and you'll win a
11:42super bowl you know but everyone's these great players you're gonna make that great one you know
11:46that boring super bowl but guess what no i i know that and look last year just it it worked
11:52that two of the teams that were most active in free agency did go to the super bowl i know
11:57that's
11:57not the recipe every year i'm just saying factually fans are going to draw on that there's more than
12:03one way to do it but i i don't know how sitting it out i don't know how sitting it
12:08out is a way
12:09either no so is tj right they're going to sign all old people or is stoney just saying no straight
12:14up it's a gap year they're telling you out loud it's a gap year two four eight five three nine
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