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Un videodiario di presentazione degli sviluppatori per Batman: The Telltale Series - Episode 3: New World Order.
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04:21e lei è stata personalizzata che Harvey
04:24era dicendo queste cose, ma è stata
04:26che ancora abbia fatto in l'endio, perché
04:27abbiamo fatto che credo in Harvey Dent.
04:29C'è certo.
04:30Changed for Gotham, new face for Gotham.
04:31È quello che hai pick, too?
04:32È è, è è, e io supporto l'immagine.
04:35E io ho scoperto l'immagine,
04:37proprio perché, quando io ho spiegato,
04:40ha detto che 73% di persone hanno chiesto
04:43di salvare Catwoman.
04:44E io ho pensato, come on!
04:45Get even closer to 50-50!
04:47Mi sento che una persona affronta
04:49è stato dato da questo numero.
04:51And see, that was, I think, what was on the line for me in the situation, right?
04:55Is the fact that, yeah, when we're behind the car after the bar fight,
04:57which, by the way, magnificent, we'll talk about that in a second.
04:59When I'm behind the car, I went for the kiss.
05:02And it's just because there is that spark there between them.
05:04And we all know, she even admits she's playing Harvey,
05:06that this isn't a real thing or whatever.
05:07So I know what's going on.
05:08And again, Batman, Catwoman, they're real personas there, not Bruce and Selina.
05:12I was like, okay, that's what I'm going to go for.
05:14So then when it was, I was like, I'm probably going to screw up this relationship,
05:17but I think in episode three, if given the chance, I can make her understand.
05:21You know what I mean?
05:22I'll woo her in the next one.
05:24Yeah, well, it's just like, she's going to get it.
05:25She knew what was going on.
05:26It was just a gunshot.
05:27Yeah, exactly.
05:28What are you crying about?
05:30You limped away.
05:31Well, no spoilers, but you may get a chance.
05:33Well, I know, because that was the thing I noticed, too, with the, you know, next time on Batman.
05:38Like, when I went out there or whatever, I'm available.
05:40That was good, man.
05:40I'm coming for your jobs.
05:41Look out.
05:42I feel it.
05:42I'm a problem.
05:43I'm Harvey Dent.
05:44I should be the mayor.
05:46See, and I can do that, too.
05:47But that was the thing, yeah.
05:48But I think what was fascinating for me as a fan of both Batman and Telltale
05:52is that episode two was when you guys really got to make it your own.
05:57Episode one was great.
05:58You were setting up what's happening.
05:59You're setting up who this Harvey Dent is.
06:01But episode two was where the changes start happening.
06:04You start to make your own canon.
06:05Like, as a writer, James, was that from the onset that you knew that episode one's going to be a
06:10lot of establishing stuff,
06:11and then we get to play with it?
06:12Absolutely.
06:13I mean, I think episode one did an absolutely fantastic job across the board,
06:18and part of that was in seeding the exact amount, the right amount of Wayne corruption
06:26and the kind of seed, the planting the seeds of something that could potentially be a revision to the canon.
06:32Sure.
06:32But I think a lot of people thought we were going to pull back from that.
06:35And I think when we started episode two, we were really determined that we were going to go all the
06:42way.
06:42The whole team was like, we're not going to half-ass this.
06:46We're going to go all the way in.
06:47And, you know, we start that straight off the bat with Falcone getting shot.
06:52Like, immediately it says, like, okay, it's an explosive narrative moment,
06:57and it immediately says we're not in a Batman world that is familiar to a lot of people.
07:03Well, sure, even establishing, like, Renee Montoya, I was like, oh, okay, someone else I can trust in the Force.
07:07Right.
07:08And then she blows him away.
07:08Right, exactly.
07:09I was like, huh, not where I thought that was going to go.
07:11Didn't expect it to go that way, right?
07:13Absolutely.
07:13And then, yeah, I mean, to his point, when you guys end episode one, I am like, all right, we're
07:18ending on the cliffhanger to come back and have Alfred explain that, no, Thomas and Martha weren't bad people.
07:24And then, no, you commit.
07:25You guys commit.
07:26And, like, Thomas is a horrible person.
07:28This whole family is really screwed up.
07:30Holy crap.
07:31If nothing else, episode two had to double down on that idea and leave no room for the possibility that
07:37they weren't corrupt, basically.
07:39So that was the heavy lifting, too, I had to do.
07:41John, was there concern, like, when you guys are sitting down to make Batman about playing something that's been canon
07:47for so long?
07:47Oh, sure.
07:48I mean, you know, I directed the episode, but I was, you know, one of the people in the room
07:52who was like, oh, we can't do that, Thomas Wayne.
07:54We can't.
07:55We can't.
07:55Are you kidding me?
07:56This guy dresses up as a bat and goes out and punches people.
07:58One of the few human things we have to sort of ground him is his parents.
08:04You take that off the table, these guys are corrupt.
08:06He doesn't have that, his rock, basically.
08:10And then suddenly you open the door to, well, now players can kind of decide, well, why am I Batman?
08:15What makes my Batman my Batman?
08:17And that was the interesting thing, playing it right, Travis, is you can see it all start happening in dialogue
08:23options where, yeah, you are searching for that.
08:24And I imagine as we continue to go, there's got to be a line in there of doubt of why
08:29am I doing this if the reasons I were doing it just doesn't make any sense.
08:32Yeah, I loved that, especially as Bruce, when you're given the option to be Batman or Bruce, that he has
08:38the ability to be sort of that darker Thomas Wayne in some of his interactions.
08:42Because in the beginning I wanted to be very, as Bruce, right?
08:46You want to do the thing where you're the upstanding citizen, kind of upholding the Wayne name.
08:50And I felt the need, whether it was Falcone in episode one or going in to talk to Mayor Hill
08:55in episode two, where you're like, I want to play him kind of like the dumb billionaire kind of that
09:00you've seen previously.
09:01And then you can come in as a Dark Knight later.
09:03But having the ability to be a little more pointed, a little more jagged, to be a little bit more
09:08of an enforcer and show that edge as Bruce, I really found myself gravitating towards that.
09:12So I think having Thomas and Martha being these giant kingpins really made it fun to go like, you know
09:17what, I'm going to be dark on both sides of the ball and really push that Bruce edge.
09:20I thought that was fun because I've seen the nicer Bruce, but I really enjoy getting to be kind of
09:25the snarkier Bruce as well.
09:26Well, that's what you guys are so great at is putting us in uncomfortable situations where, yeah, in episode one,
09:30I'm going to be the aloof Bruce and I don't care if everybody thinks I'm an idiot.
09:33I'm setting him up.
09:34And Falcone walks in, I'm like, I'm not going to shake his hand.
09:35And he starts to chalk my stick.
09:37I'm like, get the hell out of here.
09:38You know what I mean?
09:38And then again, yeah, the same thing.
09:40I did the exact same thing where it's like, do you want to go after the mayor as Batman or
09:42Bruce?
09:43And in my game, you know, Alfred's like, the city's starting to like Batman.
09:47Like, if Batman goes in there, that's going to be a huge thing.
09:49I'm like, no, going in as Bruce.
09:51And then I got there.
09:52That was the worst part, too, was that I chalked the stick, right?
09:54Like, I was super like, I was a puppet.
09:57I sold out.
09:58I did.
09:58I was like, I'm not going to make him suspect me at all.
10:01And then they made me pay for it at the end of the episode.
10:03They were like, oh, he was being nice with Falcone.
10:05I'm like, no more.
10:06No more diplomacy.
10:07No, yeah, that's the thing.
10:08I'm going to be a hard ass from here on out.
10:09I actually care about the public perception.
10:11That's right.
10:11So yeah, when it was, like, Batman's going to be, I'm like, no, we'll go in as Bruce.
10:14And again, I'm going to be like, I'll tell him whatever I need to say.
10:16And he's like, you got to dump Dent and disperate me.
10:18I'm like, you go to hell.
10:20I refuse to do that.
10:21I'll bury you.
10:21I'm like, what the hell's going on?
10:23I go in there thinking I'm going to be one guy, and you guys always make it the other way.
10:26Right.
10:27I assume that makes you incredibly happy, James.
10:29It definitely makes me very happy, yeah.
10:31That was, I think, what I liked about episode two is talking to people who have played it.
10:35We all had options to go a different way.
10:37Granted, you and I did the same thing.
10:38We did.
10:39My girl Shelby and I did the same thing in the end.
10:41Shelby.
10:41I mean, whatever.
10:42But, like, the fact that, yeah, you could swoop in as Batman and do that.
10:45You could have this drastically different choice choosing the players.
10:48I like that we're finally starting to explore that, and I'm excited for what that means for episode three and
10:53everything else that far ahead.
10:54Can I also say that I love that if you choose to try and butter up Falcone, or if you
11:00try to choose to butter up Hill, right, you say, I'm going to stop supporting Dent.
11:03I'm going to give you these things.
11:04Oh, we can be friends.
11:05Cool.
11:05You're like, cool.
11:06I've now set him up so that maybe he'll release a little bit more to expose it down the line.
11:11And as soon as that happens, nope, gone.
11:14They're both removed from the story that quickly.
11:15There's a little Game of Thrones in you guys, I'm just saying.
11:18A little Bledo.
11:19A little bit.
11:19That's another Telltale game available right now.
11:21Hey!
11:24I guess, Travis, this episode obviously hinges a lot on you.
11:27And what's interesting now is that you leave Harvey Dent in two distinctly different places.
11:33Right.
11:33How do you wrap your head around that as an actor moving forward?
11:37It's one of the things that I've really enjoyed about this Harvey Dent the most.
11:42Harvey really is that altruistic politician, right?
11:45He really wants to do things in an honest way.
11:47He wants to see Gotham see better days.
11:50And so with that as a starting point, that was good for me.
11:54To see him be taken advantage of, to fall victim to sort of the machinations of these larger powers,
12:02it was important that we had a conversation about where does possibly this other side come from?
12:08Where does Two-Face even begin?
12:10Sure.
12:10Is it a loss of a loved one?
12:12Is it an insecurity?
12:14Does he have an anger issue that we've seen before?
12:16So in this way, you see that his best efforts are not enough and that his inability to cope with
12:25these situations as that politicians need something extra.
12:28And he sort of manifests that in this other personality.
12:30And it was just a trip to see in the script sort of either a fast, steep slide into sort
12:39of that darker persona or one that's more gradual.
12:41Yeah.
12:42And that just barely shows that it might get there or maybe it won't.
12:45To see that on the page as an actor, you find yourself kind of giggling in the booth a little
12:51bit.
12:52Because you want to go to that dark place, right?
12:54And then other times you're like, I kind of like that you'll tease it every once in a while.
12:58Whether it's the line in episode two, it'll be like, oh, you know, the makeup artist here.
13:01I've got to put my face on.
13:02You know, or like, I don't even know if people picked on it because it wasn't really highlighted in the
13:08debate.
13:08You know, a penguin says like, well, let the coin decide who goes first, heads and makes Dent call it.
13:14And so those sort of things that are just little peeks are always like my little fanboy going like.
13:19Yeah.
13:19Those are important for us too.
13:21Yeah.
13:21We're like, we see the forms and we see the people who pick that stuff up.
13:25Yeah.
13:25Yeah.
13:26They got that.
13:26Well, that's the thing.
13:27Because it was intentional.
13:28Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:29I feel like you guys with, and I'm a Telltale fan, obviously, with this Batman one, it's one of the
13:34ones that is encouraging me to replay the most.
13:37Whether it be the fact that there isn't the rewind to jump back and just play with choices.
13:41Which, yes, sucks when in the minute you want to just know what the other one would have been.
13:45It hurts my body.
13:46But you make those choices.
13:47And like, for Walking Dead, it was always I'm making those choices and living with them, I always felt.
13:51Right?
13:51Because Clem is my Clem.
13:53Lee was my Lee.
13:54Whereas Batman is Batman.
13:55And so, like, there can be, I feel like there are two very different Batmans in the game if you
14:00want there to be, right?
14:01There is the one that I'm trying to be, which is very much like gray suit, blue cow, like, what's
14:05up, chum?
14:05Like, I'm not going to break your arm.
14:08Don't worry.
14:09And then there's another one, I'm going to hit you in the face with this frickin' stick and then break
14:12your arm and ask all these questions.
14:13And so, to get to play with that, I imagine, for you guys, as you figure out what your game
14:19is and what your story is, it's got to be exciting, but it's got to be hard, right?
14:21In terms of being a writer of...
14:23But you have to write three different versions of the character to service all the different things that the player
14:28might want to be expressing in that moment.
14:31And I think it is challenging, but it's also extremely rewarding, and you get to explore all the facets of
14:37this character.
14:39So, yeah.
14:39That's cool.
14:40So, it really is like thinking of three different lines of a character.
14:43Because sometimes I'm like, they wrote 40 different versions of this character, but it's like, if those are the three
14:48ways that it branches off...
14:50I mean, it's not always completely consistent throughout, you know, that we stick to three rails, but we generally, yeah,
14:56generally try and express...
14:58Wow, it feels like there's so many more.
15:00Just accept the job, all right?
15:01Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.
15:03We're always curious as well because, you know, the flavors that come through on each of those lines sometimes will
15:09be like, oh, this is if, you know, you're being, you know, the good Harvey or the, you know,
15:12he's trying to do the best thing for Gotham, and then they'll be like, no, that's actually branched off of
15:16if you've made this previous choice.
15:17You're like, oh, no.
15:18My world is a lie.
15:20I don't, I don't know anything.
15:22Now, Travis, I believe we have a clip of you in the booth.
15:25Oh.
15:25Talking a little bit about this, about how you come in and how you tackle these lines.
15:28My God.
15:29Would you like to see it?
15:29I would.
15:30So would I.
15:31Harvey Dent, starting middle linebacker for the Gotham Knights.
15:34He is such a monster.
15:36He's got the biggest shoulders and Greek chin I've ever seen.
15:39Obviously based off of me in real life, Adonis.
15:42Like this.
15:46Recording for a Telltale game is like nothing else out there.
15:49Are you a fan?
15:51You're a fan?
15:52It took a, it took a good couple of hours of the first session just to say like, okay, okay,
15:56okay.
15:56Read the prompt right before it, and then you'll be able to come in and that'll reference where you are.
16:01That's why takes are so great, because you can get one that's super passionate and heightened, and you can bring
16:05it back and do it subtle.
16:06And I'm sorry, I, God damn it!
16:11That sounded like God damn it.
16:12Ah, damn it!
16:14And when you're there, and you have the ability to throw the ball back and forth with another actor in
16:19the room, it just always makes for a more natural, subtle, believable performance.
16:23It takes away having to imagine what their read is going to be.
16:26It takes away, you know, having to have that secondary voice, which shouldn't be strange for Harvey.
16:30And you get to see their face, you get to see the delivery that they're doing.
16:34And it influences your own read as it's happening.
16:36You need some help back there?
16:39No, no, no, I'm fine.
16:43I'm out of late to be worried about me, isn't it?
16:45You really want to cheer for Harvey.
16:47You see sort of the tragic tale of a politician who's trying to do good for the city, is trying
16:52to do it by the proper means.
16:53And despite his best efforts, he's still going to get caught up in the tidal wave of the corruption of
16:58Gotham, and it smashes over him.
17:00And that should be just as heartbreaking for the fans as it is for Harvey himself.
17:05Please.
17:07I don't want to be alone, Bruce.
17:10Oh, God.
17:12Please stop at him.
17:17My favorite thing about it in there is, like, you're giving that emotional scene at the end, and then you're,
17:21like, moving the iPad.
17:23So detached.
17:25So fake.
17:29John, for you guys, what do the actors bring to the table?
17:32Like, I figure you guys have been working on the game quietly forever, it seems.
17:37And then you finally get to this point where now you, not only do you have the voice actors cast,
17:40you have reference material, and they're able to work with the characters.
17:43Yeah, you know, the performances are all completely tailored to, you know, what we get back from, from the vocal
17:49performance.
17:49So the way we build our games lets us kind of on the fly pretty quickly dial in a performance
17:54for a character and whatnot.
17:56And the voice leads us to do things like suggest certain, you know, like, staging changes, blocking changes, moving around
18:02the scene.
18:03I mean, the physical performance is usually informed entirely by the vocal, aside from, like, we know Harvey's going to
18:08get his face smashed here.
18:10We know that has to happen.
18:11But as far as, like, you know, how Harvey has that conversation with Bruce or Selina and whatnot, it's all
18:18generated by the voice.
18:19What I liked, I think, the most about episode two, I think, might come, and you can correct me if
18:24I'm wrong, from the director's stance in the way that I felt like, not to say that episode one was
18:31standard fare or boring or anything like that,
18:33but the fact of, like, when I am Batman and I am moving across the catwalk looking down at Penguin
18:38holding people hostage or that fight scene,
18:41I felt like there was things that were different, that you were, again, making it your own.
18:45I mean, was that something coming into it you felt you had to do?
18:47Well, yes and no.
18:50I mean, I'm a Batman fan from, you know, the time I was 10.
18:54I still have my animated series poster on my wall in my room.
18:58So just the opportunity to get to say, like, well, we're going to put the camera here on Batman as
19:03he stalks towards the Penguin and Harvey Dent on stage is just mind-blowing.
19:07Um, um, but also, uh, uh, there's kind of a shift between ep one and ep two where ep one
19:13is very much like, that's your, that's your Batman kind of traditional crime gangster story.
19:18At the end you have the fall of Falcone and then two is like the rise of super crime, it's,
19:23it's super villains are starting to take the stage, so suddenly it's going to become more dynamic, faster paced, a
19:28little more action oriented.
19:29So then for the fight scene, where does that begin? Is that put on the page and then you guys
19:34talk about how that's going to look?
19:36Because that was one of those things of like, that starts and I was like, this is awesome.
19:41The music, when it comes in and hits the jukebox, oh my god, yes.
19:45Good. The Selina, you're talking about Selina.
19:47Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:48There's no fight scene.
19:49No fight scene.
19:49What are you talking about there, wasn't there?
19:50Uh, yeah, that, that started, that actually, um, started as a pitch, um, in the creative summit that happened in
19:56November of last year.
19:58It was like, it's one of the, the, one of the few, like, kernels of scenes that has persisted, you
20:04know, we were, we knew we were going to do the scene at one point, but, you know, we don't
20:08articulate the action in the writing, um, that's mostly the directors who do that.
20:12So we're, you know, we have, okay, we're going to have this scene with Selina, um, you know, maybe she's
20:17not that into you at the beginning, but we would love that they get into this bar, this bar brawl,
20:22and it'll be a really fun experience for the player, and hopefully by the end of it, they will pull
20:28together in some way.
20:29And we communicate that to John, um, and John goes and works the most amazing magic.
20:34You're like, no sweat, I got this.
20:36Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, relationship building through, uh, a bar fight.
20:39So it's their version of dancing, uh, uh, for the night.
20:43Uh, one of the things we do on Batman that's unique that we haven't done yet at Tell, before Telltale,
20:47before this project, is we actually work with a stunt team in L.A.
20:50So what we'll do is we have the, the jumping off point, uh, from writing and design as far as,
20:55like, you know, what the gist is.
20:57And then we'll blow that out into, well, we want to see Bruce grab a beer bottle out of a
21:02dude's head and then smash the dude behind him and all those sort of things and, and sort of, like,
21:06work out the structure.
21:07And then we send it to those guys. They send us back way more footage than we could ever hope
21:12to animate or make into a game.
21:14Uh, and we take the best stuff. And then that's how we wind up with that bar fight.
21:17That's amazing.
21:18Right.
21:18That is the coolest use of a stunt team ever.
21:20Yeah.
21:20All right, so guys, we've talked a little bit about it, but let's get into the weeds on it.
21:24So, the kiss. Bruce kissing Selena, or trying to, as I did, as you did.
21:29I did.
21:29As probably, I think it was, like, 90% of you in the stats did.
21:32Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:32When you're writing it, how do you sit down and think about this as a love triangle, right?
21:36Because there is a moment in my conversation with Selena where she's like, Harvey's not a real thing, but he
21:41is DeBruce, so how do you make that all play?
21:44Well, I mean, we, you know, we obviously try and leverage the relationships that the player cares about against one
21:49another in our game.
21:50That's one of the things that we, that make telltale content really compelling.
21:54And when we get it right, that's, you know, we hit the sweet spot.
21:58So, we were working on that love triangle.
22:01We always knew that, you know, even though Selena's motivations might not exactly be clear, and whether she's actually into
22:09Harvey, or, like, she's using him, or what have you,
22:12we still knew that that would be something that would affect our friend if he ever found out, and that
22:17that might weigh on the player when he was making those choices.
22:20So, that was how we approached it.
22:22With all the action that happened in episode two, I kind of, not forgot about it, but I was no
22:27longer worried about the consequences, until I sit there and think about it.
22:31And especially how I left it, right, of, I chose to save Harvey, I pissed off Catwoman, now she has
22:36every reason in the world to go blow up my spot to Harvey Dent, right?
22:40Like, oh, and Bruce tried to kiss me this one time.
22:42Did you, are you worried about this as well?
22:44No.
22:44No? Okay, good.
22:45Your face is melting, so what does it matter?
22:47I know, that's true.
22:48Everything's ruined.
22:49Yeah, it was just an impulse choice at the, you know, when it happened, and I had to go back
22:53and do a playthrough just to see what happens when he, you know, resists the kiss.
22:56Yeah.
22:57And it's not satisfying.
22:57No?
22:58Go for the kiss.
22:58You gotta get the kiss.
22:59Yeah.
22:59Well, you didn't even get it, though.
23:00She plays hard to get you.
23:02I know.
23:02I actually had an audible, like, ah!
23:05You know, which is, you know, you've really gotten the player when you're in your, you know, your silent room
23:09making your TV face.
23:10Sure.
23:11And that's, I didn't even think about how messed up this is in your head,
23:14because you're making the conscious decision to cheat on yourself with your wife.
23:20Welcome to my psychosis.
23:21God damn, son.
23:24I want to see Bruce get some, too.
23:25I mean, come on.
23:26Sure.
23:27You're playing as him, yeah.
23:28Bros.
23:28Bros, big time.
23:29There you go.
23:30And that's, I mean, we talked about earlier when you're talking about directing the fight scene,
23:32and it was their version of dancing.
23:33That was the thing where I think, in that moment, you fall into love or lust or whatever you want
23:39to call it,
23:39but you know that you're kindred spirits, right?
23:41Yeah, you know that you're compatible.
23:42Exactly, exactly.
23:43So you've got dinner dancing, and then the kiss goodnight at the end as you're hiding from the cops in
23:48the alleyway.
23:49So we talked a bit about Penguin.
23:51In the scene where we're back in Falcon's hideout, the penthouse or whatever, Blockbuster shows up,
23:56and doesn't, no one calls him that?
23:58No one really makes a big deal about him being there?
24:01Like, was that a, why add him in in that way?
24:04Well, we needed, I mean, our Penguin probably wouldn't last super long in a one-on-one fight with Batman,
24:11so we had to give you something physically imposing to put between you and the bad guy you really wanted
24:16to throttle.
24:17And so we just decided that we needed a big, big bruiser in the scene.
24:22Yeah.
24:23And some henchmen to back up Penguin.
24:25So then it was, well, let's go ahead and, you know, what are the options on the table?
24:30And we just looked at the great list of, you know, Gotham-related bruisers,
24:34and there was Roland Desmond sitting right there, which is what we referred to him as in the episode.
24:39We don't really use his codename.
24:41Canonical references to drugs in his backstory as well, and how he was, like, he was, you know,
24:45in some versions he was just souped up, he was experimenting on himself,
24:48and we just thought actually there was a certain synergy with the drug throughline that we have in our story.
24:54Makes sense, yeah.
24:55Well, I mean, as a fan, especially you with the animated series poster at home,
24:58how cool was it to bring together Gordon, Catwoman, Batman?
25:01Well, yeah, I mean, those three together on a rooftop with the moon behind them and all that stuff,
25:08a classic Gotham-Batman scene was just ridiculous that you're sitting there watching,
25:14and you're like, yeah, we did this.
25:15We put these three on screen together.
25:17They're bouncing off each other, and they're about to go in and kick some ass, which was fantastic.
25:23Yeah, I mean, I'm sure for you, for me, it was like, oh, Batman and Gordon are having this conversation,
25:27and for me it was the payoff of, I'm building this Batman that can be respected and can be leaned
25:31on,
25:32he's the good guy, and then to have Catwoman come in and him have to explain that she's cool,
25:35I was like, oh, my God.
25:36Yeah, kind of in my mind, I'm like, is this the first real Batman-Gordon conversation
25:40that we were so used to as fans of the show?
25:42And then Catwoman drops in, and I love how he reaches for his piece right away,
25:46and she's like, no, I wouldn't do that.
25:48And then they zoom away with all their tech blaring, and he's like,
25:50we're seriously underfunded at the GCPD.
25:52Right, it was so good.
25:53And I love that, sounds like a vote for Dent.
25:55Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:56It was great, yeah, really great.
25:57There was definitely a rhythm to it, and that's what I'm talking about with episode two,
26:00you know, what you wrote, the way that it, we're existing in this universe now,
26:04and there are these moments of levity and the one-liners and the fun,
26:06and then the classic moments, it was great.
26:08Yeah, that's definitely one of my favorite scenes,
26:09and I also love it because it feels like a payoff to you helping her,
26:13the fact that she shows up to help you at the end.
26:16She doesn't want to be in your debt.
26:17So now, Travis, you're a fan like me.
26:21You're a fan like me.
26:22Yes.
26:23Who is leading the children of Arkham?
26:25Oh.
26:25Just tell me who's behind the masks, Travis.
26:28I don't know.
26:30You don't know my ass.
26:31No, I don't.
26:32I don't.
26:32How far have you recorded?
26:34I think we are at a semi-complete point in episode three with some changes I hear still coming.
26:41So, I mean, they don't give us a long shot into the future.
26:43There were times just in episode one where I said, so I know that Harvey Dent is just Harvey now,
26:49but I mean, we're going to make him a two-face, right?
26:51And they were like, maybe.
26:52I'm like, maybe?
26:54Maybe?
26:54If there's that much in there?
26:56And they're like, yeah, we'll see.
26:56So there's not a lot that they give us in terms of foreshadowing or even where things are going to
27:01end up.
27:02I'm lost.
27:03I'm not sure.
27:04Yeah, sure, yeah.
27:05Yeah.
27:06Just tell me.
27:07Who is it?
27:08It's Alfred.
27:09Thank you.
27:10No, I mean, that was an introduction I didn't expect.
27:14I like the mystery.
27:14That's definitely something that has me excited for, I mean, I was already excited, but more excited for episode three.
27:19But then, in terms of episode two, I found myself really unexpectedly caring about the penguin,
27:26of being like, I get where he's coming from.
27:28Like, yeah, this sucks.
27:28And I would be mad at Gotham and the Wayne family as well.
27:31Stealing the wealth, stealing the land, stealing your entire birthright, that whole thing.
27:34Right, oh, yeah.
27:34And then, like, having it on camera, your mom getting totally screwed up.
27:38Yeah.
27:39Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:39That's going to do it any day.
27:41Yeah.
27:42Maybe I won't kill these.
27:43I'm going to kill them.
27:44Yeah.
27:44I'm going to kill them.
27:44No, they got to die.
27:45Yeah, they got to die.
27:46But that was the thing of, like, I think Penguin so far has been your most original character, if that
27:53makes sense.
27:54Yeah, that'd be fair, I'd say.
27:56I mean, we totally, I mean, he doesn't have any of the physical characteristics of the classic canonical penguin.
28:03We wanted to create a complicated antagonist.
28:06You wanted, we wanted people to, I mean, we wanted his motives to be clear and relatable and understandable, even
28:13as he was doing horrible things.
28:15And I think we've reached that to a degree, or at least for you.
28:19For me, yeah.
28:20You did.
28:20Travis, you there?
28:21I'm in the same place.
28:22All right, cool.
28:22So then what about your motivations then?
28:26Because I feel like we're, episode three starts Harvey, I'd assume, in a drastically different place, right?
28:31Either if he is horribly burned, or he's, man, dodged a bullet.
28:35Yeah.
28:36And I love how, you know, in the end, Bruce says, you know, it could have been much, much worse
28:40if you save Harvey.
28:41Yeah.
28:41You know, and he says, but there will still be scars, which is just beautiful foreshadowing for what's coming.
28:45Now, Travis, you and I did the right thing.
28:47We did.
28:48Saved Harvey Dent.
28:49Mm-hmm.
28:49Some people didn't.
28:51Would you like to see where that leaves Mr. Dent in episode three?
28:54I guess.
28:55Really?
28:56I know it's going to be painful.
28:57Hold my hand.
28:57I know it's going to be painful.
28:58But why do you hold hands like you shake hands?
29:00I don't know.
29:01Here, how about this?
29:01That's much better.
29:02Here we go.
29:03Let's see Two-Face.
29:04You know, Bruce, I've been looking forward to this my entire career.
29:08The day Harvey Dent takes his official portrait as mayor of Gotham.
29:14And he looks like this.
29:20You want to tell me what's going on?
29:22I just found out Wayne Tech is compromised.
29:24The children of Arkham are using it to track the GCPD.
29:27You could be next.
29:29But Wayne Tech is everywhere.
29:31If they can hack into it...
29:33That's why they have to be stopped.
29:35Leave it to me.
29:36Thank you, Bruce.
29:42Damn it!
29:44Those children of Arkham jump me!
29:46I heard Batman showed up to help.
29:50Yeah.
29:51Not too late.
29:53Harvey Dent does everything by the book to the letter of the law.
29:59But that isn't working.
30:01Sure it is.
30:02He's turning things around.
30:03Barely.
30:04Slowly.
30:05I'd like to see you do better.
30:07Watch me.
30:08You're acting strange, huh?
30:09This whole city's acting strange!
30:15I am going to sell you out in a second.
30:17Okay.
30:18I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to tell everyone you're losing your mind.
30:22What are you talking about back here?
30:24Right.
30:24How much fun is that to play?
30:26It's pretty great.
30:27Yeah?
30:27It's pretty great to see something like that as an actor when you see two voices in the
30:31same person talking back and forth, you just kind of rub your hands together and just prepare
30:36for the ride yourself, you know, because you don't really know how it's going to go
30:39until you jump into it, because not a lot of us practice talking to two different sides
30:43of your own personality.
30:44I feel like when you talk about Harvey Dent and Two-Face, Two-Face is the one there's so
30:49much to pull from.
30:50There's so much to look into.
30:52Harvey Dent obviously all around, but always that precursor, right, to everything going
30:55wrong.
30:55For your Two-Face, do you look for inspiration from other people?
30:59I mean, of course, Troy was Two-Face in the Rocksteady Batman games, Troy Batman now.
31:04Right.
31:04And in those games, he did a great job of kind of utilizing the sound that came from
31:07the original Batman, the animated series, you know, where he has this fantastic, like,
31:11lower growl.
31:12And, you know, I think, as you'll see with the character, there's not only that kind
31:17of low rage that's just waiting to boil under the surface, but also these peaks and,
31:22you know, these sharp points of anger and kind of panic that come out in a furious sort
31:29of way.
31:29I didn't want to really pay homage or do the same sort of thing that's kind of been done
31:34before.
31:34And I think, especially where, you know, Harvey's had sort of a big, bad Harv type to him,
31:40this Harvey, to me, is not fueled by a loss of a loved one or sort of an anger problem.
31:46It's shame.
31:48You know, it's embarrassment.
31:51He's not enough as he is.
31:54And sort of this dark little voice in the back of his mind has slowly started to gain
31:57prominence and then forces his way into being equal with where Harvey is.
32:02And he's really feeling the panic of, I'm losing this as, you know, as he's moving into
32:07the mayor's office where the spotlight couldn't be any brighter.
32:10Exactly.
32:10Especially when it's laying on his face.
32:12Yeah.
32:12Travis Willingham.
32:14Greg Miller.
32:14Every one of these voice actors types I meet, they got a different process.
32:19Some, you know, again, the scarfs, the pretty socks.
32:21Oh, sure, sure.
32:22They're very, you know, they're up on a pedestal.
32:24Some are normal people like yourself.
32:26The fine people at Telltale here wanted me to ask Harvey Dent slash Two-Face questions
32:32and have him, him, it respond and they respond.
32:35Ooh.
32:36Are you up for that?
32:37Yeah, sure.
32:37Can you switch?
32:38Can you do that?
32:39I will try.
32:40Okay.
32:40I need to inject myself with some of that crazy serum that he gets in episode two.
32:43Sure, exactly, exactly, exactly.
32:44I'll let you, I'm going to ask you the one question about some of the things happening
32:48in Gotham.
32:48You can respond as either character, you can switch back and forth, you can do whatever
32:52you want.
32:52Glad I got whiskey in this cup.
32:53Do you need a second to get in your scene?
32:53No, that's good.
32:54Cheers, come on, clinky clinks, you know what I'm saying?
32:56There you go.
32:57To you, brother.
32:58All right, let's rock it.
33:01Mr. Dent, what is your impression of the Children of Arkham?
33:06I think the Children of Arkham are a dangerous terrorist organization that's trying to upset
33:12the peace and calm that this city deserves.
33:15I think they are striving towards a goal that will not be allowed and that the good men and
33:22women at the GCPD will strive to curtail.
33:26As the mayor of Gotham, how do you plan to curtail it?
33:29With force.
33:30A stricter hand.
33:32No more of this easy, weak policy towards these repeat offenders.
33:38We will set a new precedent and we will not be merciful.
33:43And how does the Batman fit into this?
33:46I think the Batman is, I think he's a symbol of hope for our city.
33:51I think it's important to have a freak like that that can just do whatever he wants.
33:56Sure, does he get results?
33:58Yes, but I think that sort of leadership is something that the people of Gotham can rally
34:03behind.
34:04Does the end of Falcone mean Gotham's a safer place?
34:08Falcone was nothing.
34:10I'm so sorry, Mr. Mellie.
34:12I think so.
34:13I think it's a launch pad for a new hope for the future of this city.
34:19Thank you very much for your time.
34:20No problem.
34:26Seeing you're right into it.
34:28Oh yeah.
34:28Troy Baker would have walked off.
34:29I need to get in the scene.
34:31Right, right.
34:31How do I be Batman?
34:32I did light some incense under here and I'm holding my meditation.
34:35Yeah, I was going to say, keep that up higher.
34:37Yeah, there you go.
34:37I'm holding this down low.
34:39I'm like, what are you doing?
34:40What are you doing?
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