00:00We're going to cross to Madrid, talk to our correspondent, Sarah Morris, who joins us from there.
00:04Sarah, it's Zelensky's fourth visit to Madrid now. What's on the agenda this time, Ra?
00:10Yes, it's his fourth visit, and a government source tells me that Spain will reaffirm its support for Ukraine
00:18for as long as it is necessary to achieve a just and lasting peace.
00:24The two men, Pedro Sánchez, the socialist, and Volodymyr Zelenskyy, are seen as getting on very well.
00:32And Sánchez will be signing some agreements later today with the Ukrainian leader.
00:39We understand that big on the agenda will be energy because of that bombing of the Russians,
00:46of the infrastructure in Ukraine, making it very difficult for Ukrainians in those winter months
00:54and making it difficult for life to continue.
00:58The Spaniards have already sent, they say, high-power generators to administer energy to 14,000 people.
01:09We might see some more announcements about how they could support that energy infrastructure
01:16to allow Ukraine to stay in this wall for as long as necessary to get a best outcome in any
01:25negotiations.
01:27We're also likely to see more promises to help with reconstruction, with rebuilding any schools that have been destroyed.
01:38All those agreements, of course, this will be the first time that Volodymyr Zelenskyy meets Pedro Sánchez
01:47since the start of the war in Iran, which is driving up energy prices.
01:52And since some of the most outspoken comments by Sánchez against Donald Trump.
01:59Sarah, we've been seeing some of those pictures of Volodymyr Zelenskyy yesterday with the British Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
02:06He urged, didn't he, Keir Starmer to meet with Donald Trump to find common ground amid that rather tense atmosphere,
02:12shall we say, between the two.
02:15That's right.
02:16And Keir Starmer was somebody who was among the group that was called the Trump Whisperer.
02:22He was seen as a bridge to Donald Trump.
02:24Now, Sánchez is almost the opposite.
02:26He is seen as Donald Trump's nemesis, as the FT put it.
02:31He is somebody who has criticised him very outspokenly on the tariffs, talking about 19th century protectionism.
02:39And then he has been very critical on this war in Iran.
02:43And Zelenskyy is likely to be very interested in how Sánchez now positions himself,
02:49because Sánchez has used this phrase, which plays very well at home, saying no to the war, referring to the
02:57war in Iran.
02:58But Zelenskyy will be interested to know if that could become a campaign slogan for Sánchez as he positions himself
03:09for a general election,
03:10which he has to call by 2027.
03:13And perhaps Zelenskyy and the men will have quite a frank exchange about getting the Americans,
03:18getting Donald Trump to stay supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia, particularly on the intelligence side.
03:27Sarah, thanks very much.
03:28Sarah Morris, our correspondent, talking to us live there from Madrid.
03:31We'll see you next time.
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