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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:27I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Bader. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:00growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:40school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:52cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm going to try to make an acronym. SEXY. This is going to be in relation to
02:21Ember and Ice. Sexy. Magic. Universe.
02:31T-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t.
02:39I have no idea.
02:40What did I say?
02:41Sexy, magic, universe.
02:47Titillating.
02:48Yeah, we'll do that.
02:50Titillating.
02:51Oh, you very publicly shot your shot for Nightwang,
02:55which was extremely fun to watch.
02:57Have you been a DC fan?
02:59And what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you,
03:02especially the ones that say you have the face,
03:04the talent, and the butt?
03:05I will be completely honest.
03:08When I saw some fan art of you as Nightwing,
03:11I was blown away.
03:13Whoa.
03:14Like, I mean, you never know
03:16if that's going to come to fruition or not,
03:18but when I see someone did you in the comic book style,
03:22I was like, I see it right away.
03:23Wow.
03:24Yeah, I would love to play him.
03:26I love DC.
03:28I loved all, like, comic books that were true to the source material.
03:37And I think, you know, there are a lot of good filmmakers
03:41who, like, bring their own style to these, you know,
03:46beloved comics that I think it would be really great to work with them.
03:49You know, I'm not fully set on Nightwing.
03:51You know, I'm open to other things.
03:54Did you always want to be in, like, did, is superheroes?
03:58No.
03:59Is that always something that's been like, I need to do that?
04:01Absolutely not.
04:02It's just, it's when really good filmmaker,
04:04it's filmmaker driven.
04:06So when, like, a guy like James Gunn or Matt Reeves,
04:10you know, comes to comics,
04:11I think that's what draws me.
04:15And I heard James Gunn is doing the Teen Titans.
04:18I know there's, yeah, but, yeah.
04:21James Gunn, he's in love with you.
04:23True or false, Hudson is more like Ilya in real life,
04:26and Connor is more like Shane.
04:28I think me and you are both like Rose.
04:31And I'm like Svetlana.
04:33I just said me and you are both like Rose.
04:36But I'm just, I'm just parting ways.
04:37That's so Svetlana for you to say.
04:40I don't know.
04:42I mean, maybe I do feel like Ilya.
04:45I don't know.
04:46I think that I'm too sensitive or outwardly sensitive
04:51or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be Ilya.
04:54I could be a little cocky like Ilya.
04:56Yeah.
04:57But beyond that, it's like I think Shane and Ilya
05:00sort of share us, you know, a soulfulness
05:03that's kind of buried under all these, you know,
05:06walls and kind of masks.
05:08But I think underneath that what we both relate
05:12with both of them is, you know, the heart and their soul.
05:17After wrapping Heated Rivalry,
05:19you two got matching tattoos that say sex sells.
05:21And if true, how did that happen?
05:25Did I have a reason for coming up to Vancouver?
05:27I just wanted to come see you.
05:29Yeah, come hang out.
05:29Am I not good enough?
05:30Come on.
05:31Yeah, I just, I don't know why for a second I was like,
05:33I have something to do up there.
05:35I have nothing to do in Vancouver.
05:37I was there.
05:38So, yeah, I just went up to see,
05:41I just came up to see you.
05:43We knew we wanted to get matching tattoos.
05:44I hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever.
05:47And we were just shuffling through ideas.
05:49And yeah, I think you came up with sex sells.
05:52But like we were both pitching ideas.
05:54And then one person would like them,
05:56the other person wouldn't.
05:57And then when you said sex sells, I was like, oh.
05:59We were sold.
06:00That's the first idea you've had.
06:01That's good.
06:01I think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well.
06:04So that feels good.
06:05The front of my shin.
06:07Pull in here.
06:08Zoom in.
06:10True or false.
06:11You ate a pound of beef, of ground beef a day while filming.
06:15Heated Rivalry.
06:16True.
06:17Connor told me what his routine was.
06:20And after I saw him in person,
06:22I asked him how he got to that size.
06:24I thought he was taking illicit substances.
06:27He wasn't.
06:27He does it super clean.
06:29Sorry I mentioned illicit substances.
06:32I have nothing to hide.
06:34Bring it on.
06:34But he was so.
06:39So I was like, what are you eating, freak?
06:42I was like, I'm eating.
06:45And he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that.
06:48And I was like, I think that means ground beef.
06:51You're like, that level of capability is what I need.
06:54And then Connor was actually the person who put me onto fiber.
06:56Because if you need to eat the protein you want to get, you know, iliac cheeks and chest,
07:03you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac arrest
07:09and you get carried out from your little workout on a stretcher with some, you know,
07:14pumped up pecs and a shut down fucking digestive system.
07:18It's really unfortunate if it ends that way.
07:20Yeah.
07:20Yeah, I actually, I'm going to one up this true or false.
07:24I actually think that we ate more than a pound of beef.
07:27Yeah.
07:27Because a pound of beef only has, I think, 84 grams of protein.
07:30And you need a solid 200 for our size and shape.
07:35So sometimes I can eat two pounds of ground beef a day.
07:38Plus like 10 eggs.
07:39Yeah.
07:40And so many salads.
07:41I was having so much salad.
07:42Because by the end I got like gained 10 pounds.
07:45So like when I started shooting, I was like, and by the end I was like 10 pounds heavier.
07:48And it was because of ground beef.
07:50Yeah, you, I mean, you're very inspiring.
07:52I'm glad that we had each other because it would have been really hard to be motivated
07:56if, you know, we were going back to our-
07:5812 hour days and then the gym.
07:59And then like going back to a residence like alone.
08:01It's really, it's nice that I got to be like,
08:05Hi son, let's go to gym.
08:07And we would go from a fucking 11 hour day skating lesson and Connor would go,
08:11let's do legs.
08:13And I looked at him, he's a madman.
08:15That's how he has a butt.
08:16He'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go, legs now?
08:21And I was like, what are you saying?
08:23Okay.
08:24I knew I had a responsibility to the people.
08:28He's America's ass.
08:29And I, I take that very seriously.
08:33Romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations.
08:36Did you feel any pressure bringing a beloved story to life?
08:39And how did you approach making the characters your own?
08:41It's good, I think, to go into a project accepting that, you know, people might be disappointed,
08:49especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions.
08:52They've envisioned, they've envisioned these characters.
08:54They've drawn these characters.
08:55They've gotten tattoos of these characters.
08:58Like, the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed.
09:03All you can do is, is read the material as much as you possibly can.
09:09Yeah.
09:09And, um, and respect it, show the respect, show the dedication,
09:14and just hope that people, you know, connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm.
09:19I think we both had that level of, whether you want to call it nihilism or not,
09:23like, people might just hate this.
09:25People might hate your casting or they might hate my casting.
09:28I'm not going to expect anything more.
09:31And, uh, I'm just going to do the best I can.
09:33But you have really no metric of if people are going to be warm to your, your take.
09:39I really think at the end of the day, all you can do is be really intentional,
09:43give it 150%.
09:45Yeah.
09:46And just go for it, you know.
09:47And luckily for us, this worked out really freaking well.
09:52Woo!
09:52Yay!
09:55Hudson, we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step Korean skincare routine.
10:00Can you break it down for us?
10:01It's not that lengthy.
10:02Yeah, I always made fun of you for it, too, because I, like, honestly,
10:06I'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin.
10:09But I was like, yeah, your skin routine.
10:11And then it's actually not that long.
10:13It's not that long.
10:13It's okay.
10:14I'm going to tell you.
10:16In the morning, I use water to cleanse my face.
10:19Warm water.
10:20And then I put on a glow toner.
10:23But it's pretty dry.
10:24It's not like, I don't like when people have, like, dewy skin.
10:27Like, if I see someone that looks like they just wore a face mask,
10:29I'm like, why are you out right now?
10:31Like, go wipe that off and then come talk to me because I won't right now.
10:35And then, so my toner.
10:36And then I'll put on a serum and then sunscreen.
10:41And then sometimes instead of a serum, I put on a moisturizer.
10:44And then my PM routine is an oil cleanser, you know, to get out these blackheads, to get the gunk
10:50out.
10:51And then I'll either use, like, a CeraVe normal ass cleanser or I'll use, like, a pore shrinking cleanser.
10:58That's their new, that's their new slogan.
11:01CeraVe normal ass cleanser.
11:04I think that is.
11:06I, yeah, I also like CeraVe.
11:07And then, like, a pore shrink or a pore shrinking cleanser, if that's my goal.
11:11And then the same thing.
11:11Toner, serum, and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid.
11:16And then I go to fucking sleep.
11:19So, I think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot.
11:23Well, I will also say, I mean, it makes sense.
11:25You have flawless skin, so.
11:28And then when I take it off, it just falls apart.
11:30Yeah.
11:31He unhooks the, he unhooks the clip back here.
11:34The clip in the back.
11:35Keeps it all up.
11:36Connor.
11:37Yes.
11:38Story.
11:38Yes.
11:39Do you have a favorite spicy scene from Heated Rivalry and a favorite from Ember and Ice?
11:43What makes those stand out for you?
11:44My favorite spicy scene from Ember and Ice is actually a scene where Dane is with two former lovers, Cassandra
11:52and Elijah.
11:53Yep.
11:58I need you to, I need you to be here with me, okay?
12:02Dane has an interaction with two of his former lovers after having been with Finn for some time.
12:11And, yeah, not to spoil, but he ends up realizing that what really works for him isn't working for him
12:19anymore.
12:20And it's kind of this moment of identity loss and, you know, what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same.
12:26I think that's really cool.
12:28Because it's also, it's, because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy, but it also is really revealing of
12:33the character and the connection and where he's at, you know.
12:36And I think it's funny, I think I remember Dane saying something about, he's like, he's like, and then the
12:42next thing I did was I just had to come up with an excuse.
12:46And then he's like, he's like, my friends, I have bad news.
12:50I have a lot from Ember and Ice, but one is the lake scene where we kind of go in
12:56together and you kind of coax it out of me without spoiling too much.
12:59I think that one's just, you know, a lot of times like the intimacy before intimacy, I think it has
13:05more of a charge in a way.
13:07That one really got me frothing at the mouth.
13:11And Heated Rivalry, favorite intimate scene.
13:15There was one that was really fun to film.
13:17Do you remember filming the stair step scene?
13:18When we're like kissing against the glass and our lips never come apart, me and you were like, do people
13:24do this?
13:25Do people like...
13:26I know, it's always a fun balance, right?
13:28Of like, when you're filming, separate from like the audio space, when you're filming, it's like how much of it
13:35is fun TV and then how much of it is like true sex?
13:41Because at the end of the day, you know, you do have in real life, people do have those like
13:45movie moments where you're like, you know.
13:48And then everyone on set was like, oh, yeah, no, I've done that.
13:51And then Connor and I were like, oh, we usually fold our clothes, place them down, then go upstairs naked
13:58and go sex now?
14:00Sex now?
14:01I'm robot.
14:03Plug me in.
14:04True or false, Hudson's roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them.
14:11Do you know?
14:13How many times?
14:14I know that you, I've, yeah, I remember this.
14:16Yep.
14:16It was true.
14:17It was one roommate.
14:17Um, and I, I mooned him 31 times.
14:23What was his reaction when you mooned him?
14:25Was he like, Hudson?
14:28Her poor name was Chelsea.
14:30I, I, I've talked with her and Chelsea has been like, you can say my name.
14:33And I was like, so I've since talked about this since.
14:36Double consent.
14:37Double consent.
14:37Um, and, uh, poor Chelsea would just go, I think her main reaction was like, oh, Hudson,
14:44ah, and it made me so happy.
14:50Where, where is Chelsea now?
14:52And I, I, I developed different techniques over the years.
14:55Um, she's chilling.
14:56She's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls.
14:59Um, but I would go and I would do like a drive-by.
15:01I had all these different techniques and then she would bring like other, you know, um, romantic
15:06interests home and then they're like, what's this tally up on the board?
15:10And they're like, oh, that's how many times Hudson, my roommate has mooned me.
15:14And they were like, would you just like kind of butt crack it or would you full cheese?
15:17So I had one where I would get pants low, like I would de-pants and she would be unassuming,
15:24like maybe on her phone on the couch and I would run by and jump in the air.
15:28So I was like, uh, like, like a, like a literal moon, a literal moon, but in fast motion.
15:34And sometimes I would just do the like, oh, drop something before we leave.
15:37Bend and I'm right there.
15:39Gotcha.
15:40Oh, God.
15:41The airborne moon is crazy.
15:43Yes.
15:43No, they, they got very athletic.
15:45But we need to clarify, if you were going to moon someone, make it a close friend.
15:49Chelsea is still my close friend.
15:51Make it, make it known that this is okay.
15:52Yep.
15:53She got a hood out of it.
15:54Do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay.
16:00Hudson, as an Asian actor leading such a hugely popular queer romance, what kind of stories
16:04or roles are you excited for more people to see you in going forward?
16:08Hmm.
16:10Yeah, I, I want to, I want to represent my, my Wajians out there.
16:15You know, um, I've been declared, do you know about this?
16:20Mm-mm.
16:20I've been declared the, I think princess or prince of Wajia.
16:24Me.
16:26I mean, I, I sign off on it.
16:28Okay.
16:28I think you.
16:29He's the final stamp off guy for this.
16:31So, uh.
16:32Yeah.
16:33I'm the, I'm the ambassador of Wajia as a fully, as a completely Caucasian.
16:38Yes.
16:39But, uh, as, as, uh, this, um, little Wajian I am, I hope to just do roles that aren't
16:48always charged with, you know, I'm happy to do roles that are, you know, race has something
16:53to, to play in there, but also I just want to be an actor and a lot of the times
16:57I just
16:57want to play parts where it's like, I'm, I'm just there and we don't need to go in
17:02my backstory or whatever.
17:03It's just, you know, I'm playing with any other, uh, non-person of color would play as
17:11well.
17:11You know?
17:12You're a person.
17:13You want to be treated?
17:13I'm a person.
17:14Love it, baby.
17:15On both Heated Rivalry and Ember and Ice, you worked with an intimacy coordinator.
17:20Um, why do you think that role matters on projects like this?
17:23Was there anything about the process that you think would surprise people?
17:26Wow.
17:27I mean, I think it's so, um, yeah, that's a, yeah, that question is, I mean, it's so
17:33important.
17:34I mean, you, you literally can't do things without that role.
17:40Um, the thing that I think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is
17:45it's not just about, and this is what I learned from Shayla originally.
17:49And then also Jamie doing this.
17:51It's not just about the actual safety, the boundaries, monitoring what's going on, what
17:57that looks like, making sure everyone's okay.
17:59There's also actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like Jamie with this, you
18:07know, was also the voice that was reminding us, this is how long it's been since this
18:11happened.
18:12You know, you need to, I need to hear that shiver or that I need to hear those, um, I
18:18need to hear that feeling through your wings.
18:21I need to see that come about.
18:22I need to feel that pleasure in this way.
18:25So it's not always technical, even though that's what I feel like is brought up a lot.
18:28There is also an artistic sensibility to that job.
18:31And that really promotes that conversation.
18:33Absolutely.
18:35Bring in the first ginger ale.
18:38This is so fun.
18:40We have Canada Dry, we have Schweppes, we have, can you, can someone give me a rundown of the
18:45brands?
18:46Nope, you're going to try it and we're going to go.
18:47Yes.
18:47I don't, I've only named two from memory.
18:50Well, how about this?
18:50I'll hold it so we don't, we don't give away anything.
18:52Yeah, it's only about the flavor, so you describe the flavor and the texture for it.
18:58Yep, that's my Hudson.
19:00That's my Hudson.
19:03That's not Canada Dry, this is some shitty American ginger ale.
19:06This is like Schweppes or like, um, yeah, that's my guess.
19:13You said it's not Canada Dry, why is it not Canada Dry?
19:16Yeah.
19:16Canada Dry's got more ginger in it and more bubble in it.
19:19It's just subtle ginger.
19:21Yeah.
19:22Go ahead and, should we be blindfolded?
19:24Go ahead and take a little beat.
19:27You got, we got you.
19:31Where is this imported from?
19:33This, this is, this is, no, no way.
19:36It says, it says from Frisco, Texas.
19:39Nope.
19:40Frisco, Texas, baby.
19:41I don't, I don't, this is, it changed, it changed.
19:44Bring in ginger ale number two.
19:47That is so embarrassing.
19:50Thank you so much.
19:52This one was, that one was Canada Dry.
19:55What is this one?
19:57I'm gonna, um, num, num.
19:59Um, num, num.
20:01You're my baby.
20:02Drink more.
20:05This is cough syrup.
20:07This is, this is yellow snow.
20:11What is this?
20:12A pissy pineapple.
20:15But, that's the brand, Hudson.
20:17I have to guess the brand?
20:20Davai, yeah.
20:21This is Schweppes.
20:22This one is Schweppes.
20:24Schweppes.
20:25That's also Canada Dry.
20:30I am so happy that I'm not the one tasting these,
20:33because if I was getting them wrong,
20:34I'd feel like an idiot.
20:36No, I'm kidding.
20:37I'm kidding.
20:39Stupid.
20:40Stupid.
20:41No, you're not.
20:42I mean, they, they really set you up.
20:44Give me another one.
20:45Do you have more?
20:46Bring me, bring in, how many more?
20:49Bring in the last one.
20:50Bring it to me.
20:53Ooh, this one's a hard one.
20:58Oh, no.
21:04Uh-huh.
21:05That's them.
21:09That's, um, that's Fevertree Ginger, um, um, beer.
21:16Hudson?
21:17What?
21:18What?
21:19What flavor?
21:20What, there's a, there's a secondary flavor.
21:26Do you want a smell test, too?
21:27You want to do, like, uh...
21:28No, it's just ginger.
21:29No, but do, like, an aromatics test.
21:34Go, full Somme vibes.
21:37Do you smell that?
21:39Oh, it's hard to, it's hard to smell.
21:41It's fucking ginger, pear?
21:43Fucking, it's ginger.
21:44Yeah, I'm going to be honest.
21:45He would never be able to understand.
21:47You can't taste that flavor at all.
21:49Let's see.
21:50Woo!
21:51What?
21:52Blood orange?
21:52Good job.
21:53You can't taste that at all.
21:54You put food coloring in.
21:56You didn't put no blood orange in there.
21:57I will say, I kind of like this one, though.
21:59That one's nice.
22:01I like all of them.
22:02But I guess the brand, did I not?
22:03You killed it.
22:04When did you first realize you clicked?
22:07And what are some of your favorite memories from working together?
22:12I would say our first FaceTime outside of a chemistry read,
22:15because at that point, I was always Shane.
22:17He was always Ilya.
22:18But then when we first met over FaceTime before we went to Toronto,
22:24we had so many, like, so much overlap of movies we liked,
22:28actors we liked, art we liked,
22:31and similar approaches to how we, you know, like to perform.
22:35That I immediately knew.
22:37I think we clicked there.
22:38And I think that's saying a lot,
22:39because I think some of our interests can be pretty niche.
22:43The fact that there is overlap is amazing.
22:45Yeah.
22:46And favorite memories, I would say all our laughs on set.
22:51Being in Muskoka was really beautiful.
22:54There was a lot of, like, lounging around.
22:58You know, it was just great.
22:59My favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs.
23:03What's, like, an inside joke that we just died over the whole time?
23:09We had a storm the set.
23:10That was also with...
23:11Oh, yeah.
23:12I would always be like...
23:13Storm the set!
23:14But if we couldn't afford extras,
23:16our idea was we would just, like, do, like, a cattle call.
23:20We used to joke that, like, we...
23:22Because we would have, like, airport scenes and stuff,
23:24where there would be, like, you know...
23:26Five people.
23:26At the airport, you need, like, you need a bunch of people
23:28and we'd have, like, five people.
23:29And I just imagined, um...
23:31I imagined Jacob being, like...
23:34Being, like, Costumes!
23:35Get up there!
23:36And everyone's, like, taking off their mics
23:37and he's, like, Storm the set!
23:40Opening the garage and just, like, opening it up to the public.
23:44How does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement?
23:49I can't...
23:50I honestly still cannot believe that
23:52that was someone's takeaway from this, you know?
23:55I think I look a little too shabby.
23:58I'm in the process of gaining weight right now.
24:00Yeah, I was...
24:01When you look...
24:02You look freaking fantastic.
24:03Bring it back to my Spanish.
24:05Muchas gracias.
24:06De nada, corazĆ³n de melĆ³n.
24:08Ah, mi hermoso.
24:10No, esposo, mi amor.
24:11Todo mi corazĆ³n.
24:13Um, yeah, I...
24:15People...
24:15People like our bodies.
24:17Let's just be honest about it.
24:18People, you know, I care about my health.
24:21I care about my fitness, as do you.
24:24Um...
24:24Honestly, watching the show is making us work out even more.
24:28Yeah.
24:29So what drew you to doing a Faye Romanes-y story,
24:31and what was it about the script that hooked you?
24:33For me, it was exploring sensuality with your voice.
24:38You know, that's the only tool you have,
24:41and it kind of scared me a little bit.
24:43And, you know, it was a really fun way to explore yourself.
24:48It was fun.
24:48It was actually fun.
24:49And, you know, it's very demanding, and it's well-written.
24:52I think in the booth, the term winged Hemingway came up.
24:59You know, fantastical Hemingway.
25:01Because there was, like, war.
25:03There's, like, this romance that's forbidden,
25:06and it seems doomed in a lot of ways.
25:10And that was way heavier than I thought, you know,
25:14this would look like.
25:15And it was really rewarding.
25:17The story just moves really well, too.
25:20It was just written really well.
25:21So, as someone who, you know, is not a big reader,
25:27I think something like this would be really appealing to me.
25:30Just the way it cycles through the feelings,
25:33it cycles through the years.
25:34Different point of views.
25:36Yeah, I just think it's really, like,
25:38almost physically well done.
25:39Why do you think MM romance resonates so strongly
25:42with women right now?
25:44Hmm.
25:46We've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it.
25:50There's so many reasons.
25:51There's so many reasons.
25:52And then even just women, you know,
25:53there are straight women, there are trans women,
25:57there are gay women, like, queer women.
25:59It's, well, that feels like a giant term to be like,
26:04I know exactly why.
26:07You know, there's, like, the element of you can live vicariously
26:09and you can feel safe.
26:11Like, with women, this is just one opinion
26:13that I had never even considered or thought of
26:17that I saw that I think you're alluding to,
26:19which is if you are female
26:20and you are taken out of the equation,
26:28there's a spectatorship to that,
26:31there's, like, a certain amount of separation
26:34that allows for safety, you know?
26:37Like, especially women historically being put into a box
26:40in a certain way, especially when it comes to sex
26:42and pleasure.
26:43Right.
26:44It feels like a nice separation to see sexuality
26:47and romance be lived out without the female dynamic being...
26:52Yeah, I heard someone online say, a woman say that, like,
26:56when you see, like, a hetero couple, you know,
27:00you default to, like, relating with,
27:02or forced to sort of relate with a woman character.
27:05And then that comes with a lot of restriction, too,
27:07and, like, imagination.
27:08A lot of writers, you know, are writing very conventionally,
27:12which means a lot of outdated tropes, old archetypes.
27:16And I think, you know, with getting to watch two men,
27:20it's like, they can kind of relate with this person.
27:21In one moment, they're empathetic to this person.
27:23They're not forced into a box of,
27:25here, this is your person to relate with.
27:27At the end of the day, though, we're both men.
27:30I have no idea what it's like to be a woman.
27:33Yeah.
27:33And so, y'all let us know.
27:35Yeah.
27:35Y'all tell us.
27:37I think me, because I would just be,
27:40I'd be drinking.
27:42I'd be somewhere, I'd be, like, under a table.
27:45Yeah.
27:45Asleep, naked.
27:47But I will say, you're really frickin' athletic,
27:51and you're really strong, and you know how to fight.
27:54So if it came down to, like, a wrestling match between you and frickin' Freddy Krueger,
27:59I think you're taking the cake, my boy.
28:01I'm winning.
28:02Woo!
28:03I'm, okay.
28:05Snack time.
28:08Me, 100%.
28:10Yeah.
28:10You have a little, you have a tiny bit more reverence than I do.
28:14Um, if something is overly serious, I cannot help but laugh.
28:18Mm.
28:19Because I just become really, like, oh, I become really aware of how...
28:21Do the kind of...
28:25It's not that pitch.
28:26You left, and now I'm gonna leave.
28:28Bye, bye, bye, bye.
28:29Connor will do the, like, the, like...
28:32It's, like, so serious, he kind of gets a little take,
28:34and then he goes, and I can't do his laugh.
28:35Do I do that?
28:36Do I do...
28:37And then he goes...
28:38Do I do a Pauly pocket hand?
28:42That's Connor.
28:42I accept myself.
28:43This is what...
28:44We're rocking this.
28:45We're rocking it.
28:46I accept myself.
28:48Me.
28:49Oh, yeah.
28:49I'm dirty.
28:50You're, like, you're pretty clean.
28:52I'd eat anything off the ground.
28:54No.
28:57Not me.
28:58You're online more than I am.
28:59Yeah, well, I just love YouTube.
29:01I love the little, like, video essay on this movie,
29:05essay on this little actor.
29:07Have you learned this about Genghis Khan?
29:09And I'm, like, why, why, there's so much to know.
29:12Nerd.
29:12Are these book talk trivia things?
29:15H-E-A.
29:16Heaven eats ass.
29:17I don't know.
29:18Yeah, heaven eats ass.
29:19Is that it?
29:20Really?
29:21What is it?
29:22Happily Ever After.
29:24Fuck.
29:25Yeah, okay.
29:28Okay, this one's harder.
29:29The rake and the cake.
29:31The what?
29:32The rake and the cake.
29:34Well, you break up some people together,
29:37and then you ass.
29:38Yes.
29:39Yeah, are these all going to be ass-related?
29:41This one, I'm really...
29:44They are for me.
29:45The grumpy sunshine from, like, the rake and the cake.
29:47Oh, right, right.
29:49Oh, I see.
29:50Oh, I like that.
29:51I like those.
29:52I like those ones.
29:53Yeah, I like the grump.
29:54Why tubes?
29:56Why?
29:57Is this a love triangle thing?
29:59Mmm.
29:59Ooh.
30:00Threesome.
30:01It scares me a little.
30:02Foot in both jars of peanut butter, if you know what I mean.
30:05Y'all make me nervous on Twitter.
30:06We're going to react to some tweets.
30:08You don't scare me.
30:09Connor's story.
30:10You need to stop.
30:11Your face too smiley.
30:12Your ass too fat.
30:14Juicy.
30:14Your line delivery too good.
30:15They'll kill you.
30:16You really...
30:17I mean, you ended up...
30:18Line delivery too good?
30:19Yeah, you...
30:20I'm cool with that.
30:21I feel good.
30:23I...
30:23Whenever we read tweets,
30:25I don't know if I'm supposed to, like, thank you,
30:27or if I'm supposed to, like...
30:29Yeah.
30:30Genuinely be like, whoa!
30:32I guess all of it, kind of.
30:34Hudson Williams' back dimples.
30:37That's it.
30:37That's the tweet.
30:38Oh!
30:40I didn't realize I had these little back dimples,
30:42but then I saw the receipts,
30:45and I saw my dimpled cheek back thing, and...
30:50We were all seeing it.
30:51Yeah.
30:51I was seeing it.
30:53Damn.
30:53I was showing it for real.
30:54I love whatever is wrong with y'all.
30:59My Cynthia and Ariana.
31:04Fine.
31:04I'm invested in heated rivalry.
31:06Not because of their giant, bouncy...
31:09But because it's a true yearner.
31:12I'm a sucker for a good romance.
31:13The yearning is the thing.
31:16I think that's probably the sexiest part for people, honestly.
31:19You want to know how we got these bodies?
31:20If you yearn enough, your ass gets fat.
31:23Despite all the memes,
31:25I have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy isn't just spice on top of the romance,
31:30but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics and character,
31:33and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things.
31:37Jacob talks about this, and that was one of the first things I think he brought to us
31:44to try and explain his vision,
31:46which was, you know, when you read the scripts, when you read the pages,
31:49it can sound very sex-heavy,
31:50but to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship
31:56and how they connect.
31:58Yeah, I think that is...
31:59I think that's kind of, you know...
32:01For the first years of their life, that's how they communicate.
32:04That's where their relationship builds, and, you know...
32:07That's not usually how sex is used in media.
32:10Yeah, yep.
32:11Meteor.
32:12I need Hudson Williams to know that so many people imagine, draw, write,
32:16and read about him getting pregnant, including me.
32:21Is that crazy?
32:22Oh, he knows, and even comments on it.
32:23Yeah, Mara.
32:24He'd arrived with updates, pointing this out to me.
32:26I know.
32:26When I learned that about the fan fiction,
32:28I was like, whatever floats your boat, you know?
32:32Yeah, I mean, I think that's in the deep fanfic side.
32:36Yeah.
32:37I don't understand it, but I'm like,
32:40you know what, you freaks?
32:41You gung-ho, you go get it.
32:43You know, if you can go get fictional me pregnant.
32:46Fictional me.
32:48Knock him up.
32:50This is another one about my butt, again.
32:53Y'all aren't ready for this one.
32:54Connor's story deserves A-O-T-Y.
32:57What's A-O-T-Y mean?
33:00I don't like this tweet.
33:02It should be A-O-T-Y century.
33:04Hey, whoa, whoa.
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