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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:27I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Bader. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:00growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:40school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:52cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:12Oh. I'm going to try to make an acronym. Sexy. This is going to be in relation to, um,
02:20to, uh, Amber and Ice. Um, sexy. Magic. Um, universe.
02:31T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T. T-T-T-T-T.
02:38the tongue i have no idea what did i say sexy magic universe um
02:47titillating yeah yeah we'll do that titillating oh you very publicly shot your shot for night wang
02:55which was extremely fun to watch have you been a dc fan and what is it like to see
03:00fans instantly rally behind you especially the ones that say you have the face the talent
03:04and the butt i will be completely honest i when i saw like some fan art of you as nightwing
03:11i was
03:12like blown away whoa like i i mean you never know if that's going to come to fruition or not
03:18but yeah
03:18i see like someone did you in the comic book style i was like i see it right away wow
03:24yeah i would i
03:25love to play him i love dc i love um i loved all like comic books that were true to
03:35the source
03:35material um and i think you know there are a lot of good filmmakers who like bring their own style
03:42to these you know beloved um um comics that i think it would be really great to work with them
03:49you know i'm not fully set on nightwing you know i'm open to other things
03:53um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no always something that's been like
04:00i absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven so when like
04:06a guy like james gunn um or matt reeves you know comes to comics it i think that's what draws
04:13me um
04:14and and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen titans i know there's yeah but yeah james gunn
04:21he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like ilya in real life and connor is more
04:27like
04:27shane i think me and you are both like rose and i'm like svetlana i just said me and you
04:34are both
04:35like but i'm just i'm just parting ways that's so svetlana for you to say um i don't know i
04:42mean
04:42maybe i do feel like ilya i don't know i think that um i i'm i'm too sensitive or outwardly
04:50sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be ilya i could be a little cocky like
04:55ilya yeah but beyond that it's like i think shane and ilya sort of share us you know a soulfulness
05:03that's kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um uh masks but i think i
05:10think
05:11underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the heart and and their soul
05:16after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales and if true how did that
05:23happen um i did i have a reason for coming up to vancouver i just want to come see yeah
05:28come hang
05:29out am i not good enough right come on yeah i just i don't know why for a second i
05:33was like
05:33i have something to do up there i have nothing to do in vancouver i was there so yeah i
05:39just went up to
05:39see um i just came up to see you we knew we wanted to get matching tattoos i hadn't gotten
05:44a tattoo in
05:45forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and yeah i think you came up with sex but like
05:52we
05:52were both pitching ideas and then like one person would like them the other person wouldn't and then when
05:57you said sex sales i was like oh we were sold that's the first idea you've had that's good
06:01i think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well so that feels good the front of my shin
06:07pull in here zoom in true or false you ate a pound of beef of ground beef a day while
06:14filming heated
06:15rivalry true um connor told me what his routine was and after i saw him in person um i asked
06:23him how
06:23he got to that size i thought he was taking illicit substances he wasn't he does it super clean
06:29sorry i mentioned illicit substances um but i have nothing to hide bring it on but he was so
06:37just like so i was like what are you eating freak i was like i'm eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that i was like i think that means ground
06:49beef um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor is actually the person
06:55who put me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know ilia
07:00cheeks
07:01um and chests you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac
07:08arrest and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know
07:13pumped up pecs and a shut down you look you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if
07:19it ends that way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one up this true or false i actually think
07:24that we
07:25ate more than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has i think 84 grams of
07:30protein and you
07:31need a solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes i can eat two pounds of ground
07:37beef
07:37a day plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was having so much salad because by the
07:43end i got like
07:43gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like and by the end i was like 10
07:48pounds
07:48heavier and it was because of yeah yeah you i mean you're very inspiring i'm glad that we had each
07:53other because it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going back to our
07:5812 hour days and then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone it's really it's
08:03nice
08:03that i got to be like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from a 11 hour
08:09day skating lesson and
08:11connor would go let's do legs and i and i looked him he's a madman that's how he has a
08:16butt he'll
08:16finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and i was like what are you
08:22saying i okay i knew i had a responsibility to the people he's america's ass and i i take that
08:32very seriously romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel any
08:37pressure being bringing a beloved story to life and how did you approach making the characters
08:41your own it's good i think to go into a project accepting that you know people might be disappointed
08:49especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions they've visioned
08:53they've envisioned these characters they've drawn these characters they've gotten tattoos of these
08:57characters like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed
09:03all you can do is is read the material as much as you possibly can yeah and um and respect
09:12it show
09:13the respect show the dedication and just hope that people you know connect with it and love it and see
09:18that enthusiasm i think we both had that level of whether you want to call it nihilism or not like
09:24people might just hate this people might hate your casting and they might hate my casting i'm not going to
09:29expect anything more and uh i'm just gonna do the best i can but you have really no metric of
09:36if people are going to be warm to your your take i really think at the end of the day
09:40all you can do
09:41is be really intentional give it a hundred and fifty percent yeah just go for it you know yeah and
09:47luckily for us this worked out really freaking well
09:52so hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you
10:00break it down for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too because
10:04i like
10:05honestly i'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah your skin
10:10routine and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm gonna tell you in the
10:16morning i use water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow toner but it's
10:24pretty dry
10:24it's not like i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks like they
10:28just
10:28wore a face mask i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then
10:33come talk to me
10:33because i won't right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um a serum and
10:40then sunscreen
10:41and then sometimes instead of a serum i put on a moisturizer and then my pm routine is an oil
10:47cleanser
10:48you know to get out these blackheads to get the the gunk out um and then i'll either use like
10:54a
10:54cerave normal ass cleanser or i'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser that's their new that's their new
11:00slogan cerave normal ass cleanser i think that is i yeah i also and then like a poor shrink or
11:09a poor
11:09shrinking cleanser if that's my goal and then the same thing toner serum and then either a retinol or
11:15a salicylic acid and then i go to sleep so i think everyone in the studio agrees that was a
11:22lot well
11:23i will also say i mean it makes sense you have flawless skin so and then when i take it
11:29off it
11:29just falls apart yeah he unhooks the he has the clip back here in the back keeps it all up
11:36connor yes
11:38story yes do you have a favorite spicy scene from heated rivalry and a favorite from ember and ice
11:42what makes those stand out for you my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice is actually a scene where
11:48dane um is with two former lovers cassandra and elijah yep
11:58i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane has an interaction with uh
12:05two of his former
12:06lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh yeah not to spoil but he he ends
12:15up realizing
12:15that what what really works for him isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of this moment of
12:21identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think that's really
12:27cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it also is
12:32really revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you know um and i think it's
12:37funny i think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like and then the next
12:43thing i did was i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then he's like he's like
12:47my friends i
12:48have bad news i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene where we kind
12:54of
12:55go in together and you kind of coax it out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's
13:00just
13:01you know a lot of times like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in
13:06a way
13:07that one really got me um frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there's
13:15one that was really fun to film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing
13:19against the glass and our lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people
13:25like i know it's always a fun balance right of like when you're filming um separate
13:30from like the audio space when you're filming it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how
13:38much
13:38of it is like is like true sex because at the end of the day you know you do have
13:43in real life people
13:44do have those those like movie moments where you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone
13:49on set was like oh yeah no we i've done that and then connor and i were like oh oh
13:54we usually fold our
13:55clothes place them down then go about chain naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in
14:04true or
14:05false hudson's roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know how many
14:13times i know that you i've yeah i remember this yep it's true it was one roommate um and i
14:20i mooned him
14:2131 times what was his reaction when you moved him was he like hudson her poor name was chelsea i
14:30i
14:30i've talked with her and chelsea has been like you can say my name and i was like so i've
14:34since
14:34talked about this since double consent uh double consent um and uh poor chelsea would just go i think
14:40her main reaction was like oh and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i
14:52developed
14:53different techniques over the years um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls
14:59but i would go and i would do like a drive-by at all these different techniques and then she
15:03would
15:03bring like other you know romantic interests home and then they're like what's this tally up on the
15:09board and they're like oh that's how many times hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were
15:14like would you just like kind of butt crack it or would you full so i had one where i
15:18would get pants
15:20low like i would d pants and she would be unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and
15:26i would
15:26run by and jump in the air so i was like a like like a like a literal moon a
15:32literal moon but in fast
15:33motion sometimes i would just do the like oh drop something before we leave bend and i'm right there
15:39gotcha oh god
15:42yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were gonna moon someone yeah
15:48a close friend chelsea is still my make it and make it known that this is okay yep
15:53she got a who do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as an asian
16:01actor
16:01leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for
16:06more people to see you in going forward hmm yeah i i wanna i wanna represent my my wasians out
16:15there
16:15you know um i've been declared do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince of
16:23wasia me i mean i i sign off on it okay i think you he's the final stamp off guy
16:30for this so uh yeah
16:32i'm the i'm the ambassador of wasia as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but as as this um
16:41little wasian i am i hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm happy to
16:50do
16:51roles that are you know race has something to to play in there but also i just want to be
16:55an actor
16:56and a lot of times i just want to play parts where it's like i'm i'm just there and we
17:01don't need
17:02to go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know i'm playing with any other uh non
17:09person of color would play as well you know you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person
17:14love it baby on both heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator
17:20why do you think that role matters on projects like this was there anything about the process
17:24that you think would surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question
17:32is i mean it's so important i mean you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing
17:41that
17:41i think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about
17:47and this is what i learned from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about
17:52the actual safety the boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's
17:59okay there's also actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know
18:07was also the voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know
18:12you need to i need to hear that shiver or that i need to hear those um i need to
18:18hear that feeling
18:19through your wings i need to see that come about i need to feel that pleasure in this way so
18:25it's not
18:25always technical even though that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic
18:30sensibility to that job and that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first
18:37ginger ale this is so fun we have canada dry we have schweps we have can you can someone give
18:44me a
18:44rundown of the brand no you're gonna try it and we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from
18:49memory well how about this i'll hold it so we don't we don't give away anything
18:58yeah that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale
19:06this is like schweps or like um yeah that's my guess it you said it's not canada dry why is
19:15it
19:15not canada dry yeah canada dries got more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger
19:20yeah go ahead and should we de-blindful
19:27you god we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way it says
19:37from frisco
19:38texas nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two that is
19:47so
19:48embarrassing thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one i'm good
19:58um nom nom nom nom you're my baby drink more okay this is cough syrup this is
20:09this is yellow snow what is this a pissy pineapple but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the
20:18brand that bye yeah this is schweps okay this one is schweps
20:30i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong i'd feel
20:35like
20:35an idiot no i'm kidding
20:40stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up give me another one do you have more
20:46bring me
20:47bring in how many more bring in the last to me oh this one's a hard one thank you oh
20:59no
21:03uh-huh that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer hudson what what what there's a there's a
21:21secondary flavor do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but
21:30do
21:30like an aromatics test go full somme vibes do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell
21:41it's fucking ginger pear fucking it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to
21:46understand you can't taste that flavor at all let's see what blood orange good job you can't
21:53taste that at all you put food coloring in you didn't put no blood orange in there i will say
21:58i kind of like this one though that one's that one's nice i like all of them but i guess
22:02the brand
22:02did i not you killed it when did you first realize you clicked and what are some of your favorite
22:09memories from working together i would say our first face time outside of a chemistry read because
22:15at that point i was always shane he was always ilia but then when we first met over face time
22:21before we went to toronto um we had so many like so much overlap of movies we liked actors we
22:29liked
22:29um art we liked and similar approaches to how we you know like to perform um that i immediately
22:36knew i think we clicked there and i think that's saying a lot because i think some of our our
22:40interests
22:41can be pretty niche the fact that there is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say
22:49all our laughs on set being in muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around
22:57um you know it was just great my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs
23:03what's what's like an inside joke that we just died over the whole time
23:07um we had a storm the set that was also with oh yeah i would always be like storm bus
23:14if we
23:15couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do like a cattle call we used to joke that
23:21like we um because we would have like airport scenes and stuff where there would be like you know
23:26for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and we'd have like five people and i
23:30just
23:30imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costumes get up there and everyone's like taking
23:37off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage and just like opening it up to the
23:43public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement i can't i honestly still cannot
23:51believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like i think i look a little too shabby
23:58i'm i'm in the process of gaining weight you know now yeah i was when you look you look freaking
24:02fantastic well bring it back to me muchas gracias de nada corazón de melón
24:13um yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care about
24:20my health i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work out
24:27even
24:27more yeah so what drew you to doing a fae romantic story and what was it about the script
24:32that hooked you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice you know that's the only
24:39tool you have and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know that there it was a
24:45really fun
24:46way to explore yourself it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's very demanding and it's well
24:51written i think in the booth the term winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway
25:01because there was like war there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a lot of
25:09ways um and that was way heavier than i thought you know this would look like and it was really
25:16rewarding
25:16mm-hmm i the story just moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone
25:24who
25:24you know is not a big reader i think something like this would be really appealing to me um just
25:30the
25:30way it it cycles through the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah yeah i just
25:36think it's really like almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly
25:42with women right now mm yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it
25:49um there's so many reasons there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight
25:55women there are trans women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like
26:02a
26:02giant term to be like i know exactly why um you know there's like the element of you can live
26:08vicariously
26:09and you can feel safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered
26:15or thought of um that i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um
26:21and you
26:22are you are taken out of the equation there's and you're you're there's a spectatorship to that
26:31there's like a there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like especially women
26:38um historically being put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to sex and pleasure
26:43it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without um right female
26:51dynamic being yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like when you see like
26:56a hetero
26:57um couple you know you default to like relating with or forced to sort of relate with the woman character
27:04um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and two and like imagination a lot of writers you
27:10know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of outdated tropes um old archetypes
27:16and i think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they can kind of relate with this
27:21person in one moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced into a box of here this
27:25is your person to relate with at the end of the day though we're both men i have no idea
27:31what it's like
27:31to be a woman um yeah and so y'all let us know yeah y'all tell us i think
27:38me because i would just be
27:40i'd be drinking i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table yeah asleep naked but i will say
27:49you're really freaking athletic and you're really strong and you know how to fight so if it came down
27:55to like a wrestling match between you and leather face freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake
28:00my boy i'm winning okay snack time me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit
28:12more
28:12reverence than i do um if something is overly serious i cannot help but laugh
28:18because i just become really like oh i become really aware of how do you do that kind of
28:25it's not that you left and now now i'm gonna leave
28:29connor will do the like the like it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and then
28:34and i can't do his laugh do i do that do i do and then he goes do i do
28:38a polly pocket hand
28:42you know what i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself
28:48me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:57not me online more than i yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and i'm like
29:10wow there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things heaven eats ass i don't know
29:18yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it happily ever after yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake the what the rake and the cake well you break up
29:36some
29:36some people together and then you ass yeah are these all going to be ass related
29:43they are for me
29:47oh right right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like
29:54the grump
29:54why tubes why is this a love triangle thing mm ooh threesome
30:00it scares me a little foot in both jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean
30:05don't make me nervous on twitter we're going to react to some tweets you don't scare me connor's
30:09story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too good they'll kill
30:16you you really i mean you ended line delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm cool with that i
30:21feel good um
30:22i i whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank you or if i'm supposed
30:28to
30:29like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples that's it
30:37that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i i saw the receipts
30:44and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all singing it yeah i was i was
30:52seeing it
30:53damn for real i love whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy bullets but because it's a true
31:11yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies you're
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics
31:32and character and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things jacob talks
31:38about this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us um to try and
31:45explain his
31:45vision which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages it can sound very sex
31:50heavy
31:50but to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how they connect um yeah
31:58i think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know for the first years of their
32:03life that's how
32:04communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know that's not usually how sex is used in
32:09yeah yeah yeah meteor i need hudson williams to know that so many people imagine draw right and read
32:16about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he knows and even comments on yeah mara
32:24he derived updates pointing this out to me i know when i learned that about it's crazy i was like
32:29whatever
32:29floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think that's like i think that's in the deep
32:35fanfic side
32:36yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what you freaks you gung-ho you go get it
32:42you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me knock him up this is another one about
32:51my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor's story deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o
32:58-t-y mean
32:59connor's story asks of the i don't like this tweet it should be asked century hey whoa
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