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00:03mike stone joining us today our number two we will get to some of your phone calls here just
00:08bear with me i want to welcome in a different audience and kind of add in a topic now i
00:13brought
00:14up the wings kenny graded the hockey take as an a minus only thing i said is this you watch
00:20the
00:20game all i ended up doing was mfing the tv and it just the wings are just a big pile
00:26of meh
00:27you take the names off the jerseys they're all interchangeable there's no one special there's
00:32no one that steps up there's no one that has juice and it goes back to what stoney said i
00:37mean they
00:37just don't have stars no i mean cider yes he's one of the top five defensemen in the national hockey
00:43league which is fine but but but he's not quinn use right he's not going to lead you know he's
00:48not
00:48going to change zones spearhead the attack you know and and become a difference maker like his quality
00:56is not going to save this team right the point i'm making is we're seven years into this damn thing
01:01and i'm watching last night there was nothing different there's no urgency there's no passion
01:08to it i mean i know it sounds cliche but like watch the game tampa won every 50 50 puck
01:15if it went to
01:16the corner tampa was getting it they were cycling all the live long day and i know hockey's a strange
01:22game where you can kind of get dominated but it's 2-1 but it did feel like tampa beat the
01:28hell out of
01:28them and i just i asked the question of like this team is just an empty husk seven years into
01:36this
01:37they just don't have people i care about watching and they sure as hell don't have people capable
01:42of stepping up when larkin's out so great go to dallas saturday night i got to do the same damn
01:47thing and hope they win uh so i'll go out with your wife and no i'm i'm not telling you
01:52i'm watching
01:52every second of that i gave him last night again i mean it's a stretch drive stoney i'm gonna watch
01:57damn near nine out of ten games i know i just i don't enjoy it so here's the other one
02:02while i was
02:03watching that game i received a missive from one thomas john lang and tj he goes mike can i ask
02:12you a
02:12question sure tj he goes can you explain to me the bob muhammad thing no tj no i cannot then
02:23he goes
02:24on a tj diatribe about the guy had a really nice year and six million bucks and the whole thing
02:30and i asked a question and i want to look at you when i say this okay because this this
02:37warrants
02:37eye contact michael okay did we get lied to last year do you remember last year how they wanted to
02:46wave their frankfurter in your face about being the only team with two ends with double digit sacks
02:52and how good bob muhammad was and essentially you know the gm came on the air told us we're all
02:59stupid
03:00for thinking they needed edge help cut scene bob muhammad who i don't love no first for a deal
03:08that is worth less than six million right he has to hit one year he has to hit every incentive
03:13to make
03:14six million dollars i would have absolutely brought him back as depth did they lie to us now here was
03:21part two because i want an answer to that i want to answer to this part two is this
03:28me me me me me the can anyone offer what their plan is i have said to you i take
03:36great pride in doing
03:37my job and i really do try to be thoughtful i can't give you what their plan is tj offered
03:45one idea
03:49they're gonna maybe they'll sign a bunch of old people and old people don't like otas
03:55so their signings will be deeper into the offseason now i made a golden girls joke to him and the
04:01chat
04:01ended the point is if is tj right or is it something else because michael the bob muhammad thing really
04:10sticks out to me as a wtf are we doing moment six million dollars is a rounding error well and
04:17he would
04:17have made a great rotational edge for them and uh they also have um some problems uh in the middle
04:23of their um defensive line they're problems everywhere mike i know they need a linebacker
04:28okay they need corners right okay my my point is though that arguably their best defensive lineman
04:35last year was who uh roy lopez yes outside aid okay i i meant interior yeah okay my bad uh
04:43lopez
04:44signs to go back to arizona for not for not a lot of money
04:50and so like i i can't figure out you know if brad's cooking what's in the kitchen there's no
04:56offered there's no ingredients i understand if it's a calace cam blue's 40 or if it's a cam
05:01jordan who's 36 those guys don't want to go to minicamp okay then again tj's not claiming that's the
05:07plan tj was banging his head off a wall going i don't i can't figure it out
05:13he offered one suggestion so i'm offering it to you the other suggestion we get lied to
05:18no we might have been deceived because the lions right now from what i understand
05:23like the second or third youngest roster in the national football league and they've getting rid
05:30of all their for whatever the reasons glasgow decker they're getting they got a skipper they
05:35got rid of a lot of guys that were up there in age
05:40this coming year you could call what you want gap year read you know restored year whatever
05:45that's what this year's looks like to me is they're just trying to get young and basically do a rebuild
05:52without without embarrassing themselves to me that's what it looks it's a guy Tony claims gap year
05:58yeah tj claims maybe they're just going to sign the cast from cocoon and they all want to sign post
06:05otas what suggestion do you have i don't have an answer guys the bob muhammad thing really i just
06:14kind of looked at it and i'm like all right do whatever you guys want to do i don't get
06:18it
06:18and that's not me stumping for a guy who we bust balls about as a rotational depth guy i have
06:24no
06:24problem paying the man four or five million dollars with incentives i didn't want him starting
06:29playing 65 snaps to let him go to tampa i don't understand it and again you could say well well
06:35they're going to bring in cam jordan i'd love it that has nothing to do with keeping muhammad
06:39around no that's depth you need it no you can't count on your draft guys to come in and be
06:44great
06:44either by the way they're also going to put themselves in a position where it picks 17 they're
06:49going to have to well right now they don't they don't have enough players to pinhole one thing but
06:53like they're gonna have to take a tackle and pray to pray to god the guy plays like a pro
06:57bowler
06:57yeah unless you want to start the larry borum experience um but i'd love to know from you guys
07:04i'm open about it i don't understand what they're doing you can tell me tj offered the last kernel of
07:11hope they're just going to sign a bunch of old people one-year deals and if the old people can
07:17play
07:17for a year and they can still make the playoffs great and then the younger players get better and
07:22they're there that's what they're trying to do 248-539-9797 david kenney offer a take we'll get
07:29to the phones wing fans are are welcome and i'd love to hear from lion fans because right now
07:34i feel like there is an immense amount of apathy towards your nfl football team and i'm glad you said
07:42apathy mike because that's kind of the way that i felt about this offseason and i tend to agree with
07:48stoney and i think lions fans ought to get good and comfortable with the idea that this is going to
07:52be a gap year because if the strategy is either what stoney said or what tj said we we can
07:58flow
07:58chart right on back to well that's a gap year mentality right i i don't i don't think and and
08:05that's fine i guess but that's taking one more year away from your super bowl window which i don't even
08:11really think is a window anymore i think it's a very closing okay but what is what is the plan
08:17the i think the plan is it stoney's gap year or is it tj saying they're going to sign wilford
08:23brimley from the film the firm i think it's stoney's gap year but based on um intel and connections i
08:31would trust tj more than i trust
08:35no i'm kidding they didn't sign anybody um what are you doing i was like oh we got something i'm
08:42sorry don't do that i want to i was like whoa stoney i'm so excited yes i'm sorry that was
08:49terrible
08:50no that was terrible of me there'll be revenge coming later in the show come on that was
08:54damn it it's just like when i patronized rico that ended up meaner than i meant
08:59all right well let's go to joe 97 one joe how you doing buddy pretty good how you guys doing
09:06same to you buddy hey you know the guy who called in on stoney and stoney wanted to get some
09:13of his
09:13gummies i just want to address him and some of the other fans out there you know i've been in
09:18the truck my whole life i'm 56 and i've seen the modern day good teams in the truck 84 tigers
09:23you know
09:23the the bad boys early 90s and you know the nice 97 wings when those teams were coming
09:29together you could always see there's greatness coming there's good players this is gonna be
09:33something special and they end up winning right now i talk to my buddy and they're like delusional
09:38because they've had this drought for all these teams and i say you know in the beginning you see
09:42the pistons are doing well and he's like oh this is gonna be a great team i'm like no they're
09:45a good
09:46team but not a great team same with the wings you know the wings oh this team's in the whole
09:50Stanley cup oh they're great team no they're a good team not a great team and same with the lions
09:55you know the lions they're a good team but not a great team the fans themselves become sometimes so
10:00delusional because they're just they want to win so bad that they're convinced that this is going to
10:05be it you know one good play and that's it but i agree i don't think the wings have any
10:09talent i think
10:10i think a guy like you know that we we get local guys like hutchinson or or uh you know
10:16the local
10:17boys and that's great hutchinson's good but he's not great and and same with the wings you know
10:22he gets their captain you know he's a local boy and and yet he's good but not great but everybody
10:27wants to be great and i say sometimes being in detroit i root for all the teams i love them
10:32all but
10:32i can you can just always tell when you have a great team coming and these are not great teams
10:37they're just good teams you know when you get off the airport you take the uh the escalator
10:41downstairs the baggage claim they always have some sign or whatever welcome this group to do
10:46welcome to detroit the city of good but not great yeah i mean it's he's not wrong no he's not
10:53but i
10:53mean joe so to answer the question what do you believe the lions plan is i don't know i'm with
10:59stony i think i think they're just buying time just a gap year and they're trying to figure out what
11:04they're even doing i don't think they know what they're doing i think they're trying to just figure
11:06out pretending what they're doing so they don't lose their job eizerman for instance look if they don't
11:11at the playoffs which i don't think they're going to but but he's got to go and i love steve
11:14eizerman
11:15he's one of my favorite hockey players of all time i grew up i had a poster on my wall
11:18of him
11:18but in the end he's not he's not cutting to the gm and and the line is in running fans
11:24have to
11:24dismiss it they can't just keep saying oh because usually he's a great hockey player he's a local
11:28detroit guy it doesn't matter sometimes it doesn't work out like that you know but yeah i i hate to
11:33say
11:33it it's just that's how it is and the lines i can't figure out what the heck they're doing
11:36you know it's just it's just crazy and i think nowadays seattle proved it you only need a
11:41couple years a smart coach not great players and you'll win a super bowl you know but everyone
11:46sees great players you're gonna make that great one you know that boring super bowl but guess what
11:51no i i know that and look last year just it it worked that two of the teams that were
11:56most active
11:57in free agency did go to the super bowl i know that's not the recipe every year i'm just saying
12:02factually fans are going to draw on that there's more than one way to do it but i i don't
12:08know how
12:08sitting it out i don't know how sitting it out is a way either no so is tj right they're
12:14going to
12:14sign all old people or is stoney just saying no straight up it's a gap year they're telling you
12:19out loud it's a gap year two four eight five three nine ninety seven ninety seven
12:22you
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