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00:00Anyway, it's the first big step for the quarterback to the Browns this fall.
00:04Whoever that may be, free agency.
00:06It was written on CBSSports.com and ESPN as a win for Shador Sanders.
00:10Did you find free agency to be a win for Shador?
00:14Did you find it to be a win for the Browns quarterback room in general?
00:16It was a huge win.
00:17I can't say for the quarterback room because they did not improve the quarterback room.
00:21So until further notice.
00:23Well, the quarterbacks in the room was probably a win for.
00:25Yes, for Shador Sanders, it was a massive win because, let's face it,
00:30if they brought in Malik Willis, that would have been a big-time loss.
00:35They didn't.
00:36So, you know, right now, right now, he, I would, you know, it's funny.
00:41Everybody nationally says Deshaun Watson's his to lose
00:44because they remember Deshaun Watson from five years ago.
00:46We've seen him more recently.
00:48Well, Zach says anybody who says that's an idiot.
00:50Was that the quote that he said?
00:51Yes, but it seems like that's what everybody's saying.
00:53But you and I are kind of on the same page.
00:55We're like, no, I mean, they want Deshaun Watson.
00:57They want Shador Sanders to win until further notice, right?
01:02Like, let's see, because there's still time.
01:04And when did they bring in Joe Flacco last year?
01:06I think the people who are April 11th.
01:08The people who are from a national perspective,
01:10I just don't think that they have boots on the ground to understand, you know,
01:14how the city may feel about it.
01:16I think it's the opposite.
01:17I really do think it's Shador's job to lose.
01:19And I think it was a good free agency for him where you have new people coming in on the
01:25offensive line.
01:26Now, they are going to be better than what you assume your old offensive line is going to be.
01:30Now, I specified earlier in the show the challenges that are laid out for George Warhop
01:35to get these guys playing in the right direction, get these guys all on the same page.
01:39You have new free agents because you can go one of two ways, obviously.
01:42You could have a real bad offensive line when you bring them up in free agency.
01:45You can have a decent one.
01:46I don't know if you're going to have one that's just automatically becomes a top 10 offensive line in the
01:51NFL.
01:52And if you're not a top top, really, if you're not a top five offensive line,
01:56most fans just think their offensive lines are terrible if they're not well known as one of the best offensive
02:00lines in the NFL.
02:01It's so dreadfully important.
02:03And I love proving people wrong about where they sit on offensive lines when they try to tell me it's
02:09not important.
02:09Some still do in 2026.
02:11It's going to be important for Shador.
02:14Shador's used to run for his life.
02:15He had to do it in Colorado.
02:16He had to do it to some certain degree last year.
02:19I want to see him with a little bit more time.
02:21But those who are outside of Cleveland, I just don't think they understand how the fan base feels about the
02:28entire quarterback room.
02:29Again, you can be annoyed that we talk about Shador Sanders.
02:34You can be annoyed that the conversation swings easily during free agency like he's signed with the Vikings now.
02:43But you can be annoyed that Kyler Murray gets brought up in Tua and Malik Willis and et cetera, et
02:48cetera, et cetera.
02:48The organization, I do feel, from top down, wants Shador to win the job.
02:55I think he goes in as the favorite to win the job with the organization.
02:59Oh, they make things so much easier for everybody involved.
03:01What the national media doesn't understand, though, is part of that reason is that fans don't want to see the
03:08other guy.
03:08They just don't want to see the other guy.
03:10And that's part of that reason.
03:12Like, we played a promo for Nick and Jonathan right before this segment started.
03:18And they're talking a lot of 2027.
03:20Yeah, I think a lot of people might be thinking of 2027 going, all right, let's see what we have
03:24with this QB room.
03:25Let's see what we have with Shador.
03:27Let's see if he can, with a proper camp and proper OTAs, can he be the guy that can lead
03:34us forward?
03:35Or are we looking in 2027?
03:37I think that's the way a lot of people feel that this thing's going to go.
03:40The national perspective, I think they just look and they remember exactly what you said.
03:44The guy that was there six years ago that was a great player.
03:48The guy that was traded for three first-round picks.
03:50The money that's still offered to him.
03:51And, I mean, there is a physical prowess there.
03:53I mean, he is a physically imposing figure at 6'3", 6'4".
03:56And a bigger body than what Shador Sanders has.
03:59Let's face it.
03:59They're looking at Shador as a fifth-round pick who had some of the worst numbers.
04:03And that, too.
04:04That a rookie has had in a few years in the NFL.
04:06So, you're going to pick anybody over that, most likely.
04:09If we're talking week one, though, I think your leader right now is going to be Shador.
04:12I can't guarantee it's going to be an entire season, though.
04:14I mean, Todd Munkin's, he has to win games.
04:17But I think that Shador Sanders is going to be given every opportunity he can to win this game.
04:21But, win this job.
04:23The thing that I'm most worried about is that, and I think that he's here a lot.
04:28I know he's in the building a lot.
04:30So, he's trying to put his best foot forward.
04:32Once you get into those drills and the settings of knowing the offense and figuring out where to go,
04:37there's still going to be some growing pains.
04:40But what direction is a 60-year-old first-time head coach going to want to go
04:43if one guy has a better grip on the offense, if one guy might have any bit of his physicality
04:49back to what he had before?
04:50Which way does he want to go?
04:52For people who say, well, I don't want anybody involved other than the head coach.
04:56Are you sure you want to do that?
04:58Because if the head coach decides to make a decision for winning now, he might not pick your guy.
05:03Like, I don't think it's a 100% Shador ends up being the starter week one.
05:07I just think that he is definitely, without a doubt, the leader that they want to give the job to.
05:13Yeah, and I don't know.
05:15You talked about, like, how secure that would be.
05:18I think whoever starts at quarterback this year, unless they make a significant investment into that,
05:22which you never know.
05:23I doubt it at this point because they didn't go Kyler Murray.
05:26They didn't go Malik Willis or anything like that.
05:28And I know Murray would not have been a significant investment in terms of the money,
05:32but just that stature and who it is and everything.
05:35They probably have, what, five, six games?
05:39Basically.
05:39Right, if the Browns start out 1-4, 1-5, whoever is starting is getting benched.
05:44I think you're trying to go month to month.
05:45I don't think there's any question.
05:46I think you're trying to go month to month.
05:47Like, if you're Todd Munkin, as of right now, unless they go do something pretty strong in the draft,
05:53and I just don't think they're going to do that unless they go and they do something pretty strong in
05:58the draft
05:58or somebody elevates themselves past, I think publicly it's his job.
06:04I think privately you're kind of month to month on it after the season starts.
06:08Mike in Frisco, Texas, you're first up on the fan.
06:10Hello.
06:11Hey, guys.
06:12I just got in the car, and the first thing I heard was the free agency a win for the
06:17quarterback room.
06:17And I got to say, absolutely not.
06:21And all the quarterback talk, I know that's the prime position on the team.
06:26But, man, we're building an offensive line with degraded players.
06:31We're going to have the sort of offensive line that Joe Burrows had in Cincinnati
06:34or the offensive line that made Andrew Luck retire early.
06:37It doesn't matter who we put at quarterback.
06:40I mean, just because we went and got guys, everybody celebrated.
06:42I'm hearing people drinking the Kool-Aid last week, like, oh, Andrew Barry likes the flexibility
06:48to play left or right tackle.
06:50He's going to stink at either left or right tackle.
06:52We've got nothing on the offensive line, guys.
06:54Mike, see, just because I'm not like that.
06:57I did not go overboard and start saying Super Bowl, Super Browns because of what they did on the offensive
07:02line.
07:03But I'm not going to go the other way either.
07:05I'm not going to say, and Mike, thank you for the call.
07:06I don't think that these guys are going to suck out loud right off the rip.
07:09I got to see it.
07:10I got to see it in camp.
07:12I got to see it when the season starts.
07:14The only thing you can do is kind of hope.
07:17And if you have no trust in Andrew Barry whatsoever, I understand how little hope that's going to be.
07:21But I'm not going to go, and if that makes me a little bit more boring about it, then fine.
07:26But I just can't subscribe to this thing is going to be incredible.
07:30This is going to be a much better offensive line.
07:34Teams do not set out to have to replace four-fifths and possibly five-fifths of their offensive line in
07:40free agency.
07:41So that's a very big risk.
07:43And so it's not like it's 4-D chess, laser eyes, Barry, because he'd rather have some guys that he
07:48drafted that are still involved in there.
07:50That's not what it is.
07:51But I just don't know if it's going to suck out loud to the point where this thing's going to
07:54be an unmitigated disaster because of what they've done in free agency.
07:58I still don't know yet.
07:59I've got to get more evidence before I start to draw a conclusion one way or the other.
08:03And again, even when you bring up – it's got to be easily the biggest mystery that they have going
08:06into the season because even when you bring up the head coach,
08:09there's plenty of people that are on the internet, on PFF, who question him, and then any player loves him,
08:16thinks that he's the best.
08:17I tend to go with players on this because I want to because I want what's best for the team.
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