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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:28I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain Spanish. Spain Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Baedén. Yeah. In Vanela Vicruz. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas.
00:50She's Cuban, right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since
00:55Brokeback Mountain. Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck
01:00with you, either growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first
01:04things that you told me. Yeah. Yeah. I love, um, Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's
01:10his best work. I think that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading
01:14men, um, take on, you know, gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call
01:20Me By Your Name, um, Moonlight, I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house
01:25to the hood is what he said. That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having,
01:32you know, he said he wanted to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:41school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing, um, that felt like it was really
01:46a part of the cultural zeitgeist. Um, and it also handled like, it also handled queer stories
01:52in a really cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know,
01:59um, which I think also was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in
02:04such a specific time and place and, um, like letting them explore love. Right. What does
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02:47Titillating.
02:48Yeah.
02:49Yeah.
02:49We'll do that.
02:50Titillating.
02:51Oh, you very publicly shot your shot for Nightwing, which was extremely fun to watch.
02:57Have you been a DC fan?
02:59And what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you, especially the ones that
03:03say you have the face, the talent, and the butt?
03:05I will be completely honest.
03:08When I saw some fan art of you as Nightwing, I was blown away.
03:13Whoa.
03:15I mean, you never know if that's going to come to fruition or not, but when I see someone
03:20did you in the comic book style, I was like, I see it right away.
03:24Wow.
03:25Yeah.
03:25I would love to play him.
03:26I love DC.
03:29I loved all comic books that were true to the source material.
03:37And I think there are a lot of good filmmakers who bring their own style to these.
03:43These, you know, beloved comics that I think it would be really great to work with them.
03:49You know, I'm not fully set on Nightwing, you know, I'm open to other things.
03:54Did you always want to be in, like, superheroes?
03:59No.
03:59Is that always something that's been like, I need to do that?
04:01Absolutely not.
04:02It's just, it's when really good filmmaker, it's filmmaker driven.
04:06So when like a guy like James Gunn or Matt Reeves, you know, comes to comics, I think that's
04:12what draws me.
04:14Um, and, and I heard James Gunn is doing the, the Teen Titans.
04:18I know there's, yeah, but yeah.
04:21James Gunn, he's in love with you.
04:23True or false, Hudson is more like Ilya in real life and Connor is more like Shane.
04:28I think me and you are both like Rose.
04:30Rose.
04:32And I'm like Svetlana.
04:33I just said me and you are both like Rose.
04:36But I'm just, I'm just parting ways.
04:38That's so Svetlana for you to say.
04:40Um, I don't know.
04:42I mean, maybe I do feel like Ilya.
04:45I don't know.
04:46I think that, um, I, I'm, I'm too sensitive or outwardly sensitive or don't have a lot
04:52of shame around emotion to be Ilya.
04:54I could be a little cocky like Ilya.
04:56Yeah.
04:57But beyond that, it's like, I think Shane and Ilya sort of share us, you know, a soulfulness
05:03that's kind of buried under all these, you know, walls and kind of, um, uh, masks.
05:09But I think, I think underneath that, what we both relate with both of them is, you know,
05:15the, the heart and, and, and their soul.
05:17After wrapping Heated Rivalry, you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales.
05:22And if true, how did that happen?
05:24Um, I, did I have a reason for coming up to Vancouver?
05:27I just wanted to come see you.
05:29Yeah.
05:29Come hang out.
05:29Am I not good enough?
05:31Come on.
05:31Yeah.
05:31I just, I don't know why for a second I was like, I have something to do up there.
05:35I have nothing to do in Vancouver.
05:37I was there.
05:38So, yeah, I just went up to see, um, I just came up to see you.
05:43We knew we wanted to get matching tattoos.
05:44I hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever.
05:46Um, and we were just shuffling through ideas and yeah, we did it.
05:51I think you came up with sex sales.
05:52But like, we were both pitching ideas and then one person would like them.
05:56The other person wouldn't.
05:57And then when you said sex sales, I was like, oh, we were sold.
06:00That's the first idea you've had.
06:01That's good.
06:01I think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well.
06:04Damn.
06:04So that feels good.
06:05The front of my shin.
06:07Pull in here.
06:08Zoom in.
06:09Yes.
06:11True or false.
06:12You ate a pound of beef, of ground beef a day while filming.
06:15Heated Rivalry.
06:17True.
06:18Um, Connor told me what his routine was.
06:20And after I saw him in person, um, I asked him how he got to that size.
06:25I thought he was taking illicit substances.
06:27He wasn't.
06:28He does it super clean.
06:29Sorry I mentioned illicit substances.
06:32Um, but he was...
06:33I have nothing to hide.
06:34Bring it on.
06:35But he was so...
06:37And just like...
06:39So I was like, what are you eating, freak?
06:43And I was like, I'm eating...
06:46And he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that.
06:48And I was like, I think that means ground beef.
06:50Um, and then...
06:51You're like, that level of capability is what I need.
06:54Yeah.
06:54And then Connor was actually the person who put me onto fiber.
06:56Because if you need to eat the protein, you want to get, you know, iliac cheeks, um,
07:02and chests.
07:04You need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac arrest
07:09and you get carried out from your little workout on a stretcher with some, you know,
07:14pumped up pecs and a shut down fucking digestive system.
07:18It's really unfortunate if it ends that way.
07:20Yeah.
07:20Yeah.
07:21I actually, um, I'm going to one up this true or false.
07:24I actually think that we ate more than a pound of beef.
07:27Yeah.
07:27Because a pound of beef only has, I think, 84 grams of protein.
07:31And you need a solid 200 for our size and shape.
07:35So sometimes I can eat two pounds of ground beef a day.
07:38Plus like 10 eggs.
07:40Yeah.
07:40And so many salads.
07:41I was having so much salad because by the end I got like gained 10 pounds.
07:45So like when I started shooting, I was like, and then by the end I was like 10 pounds heavier.
07:49And it was because of ground beef.
07:50Yeah.
07:51You, I mean, you're very inspiring.
07:52I'm glad that we had each other because it would have been really hard to be motivated
07:56if, you know, we were going back to our-
07:5812 hour days and then the gym.
08:00And then like going back to a residence like alone.
08:02It's really, it's nice that I got to be like, hi, son, let's go to gym.
08:07And we would go from a fucking 11 hour day skating lesson and Connor would go, let's do legs.
08:13And I looked him, he's a madman.
08:15That's how he has a butt.
08:16He'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now.
08:21And I was like, what are you saying?
08:23Okay.
08:24I knew I had a responsibility to the people.
08:28He's America's ass.
08:30And I, I take that very seriously.
08:33Romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations.
08:37Did you feel any pressure bringing a beloved story to life?
08:39And how did you approach making the characters your own?
08:42It's good, I think, to go into a project accepting that, you know, people might be disappointed,
08:49especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions.
08:52They've envisioned, they've envisioned these characters.
08:54They've drawn these characters.
08:56They've gotten tattoos of these characters.
08:58Like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed.
09:03All you can do is, is read the material as much as you possibly can.
09:09Yeah.
09:11And, and respect it.
09:13Show the respect.
09:14Show the dedication.
09:15And just hope that people, you know, connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm.
09:20I think we both had that level of, whether you want to call it nihilism or not.
09:24Like, people might just hate this.
09:26People might hate your casting or they might hate my casting.
09:28I'm not going to expect anything more.
09:31And, uh, I'm just going to do the best I can.
09:33But you have really no metric of if people are going to be warm to your, your take.
09:39I really think at the end of the day, all you can do is be really intentional.
09:43Give it a hundred and fifty percent.
09:46Yeah.
09:46Just go for it, you know.
09:47Yeah.
09:47And luckily for us, this worked out really frickin' well.
09:52Woo!
09:55Hudson, we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step Korean skincare routine.
10:00Can you break it down for us?
10:01It's not that lengthy.
10:02Yeah.
10:03I always made fun of you for it too, because I like, honestly, I'm just kind of jealous
10:07because you have really good skin.
10:09But I was like, yeah, your skin routine.
10:11And then it's actually not that long, huh?
10:13It's not that long.
10:14It's okay.
10:15I'm going to tell you.
10:16In the morning, I use water to cleanse my face.
10:19Warm water.
10:20And then I put on a glow toner, but it's pretty dry.
10:25It's not like, I don't like when people have like dewy skin.
10:27Like if I see someone that looks like they just wore a face mask, I'm like, why are you
10:30out right now?
10:31Like, go wipe that off and then come talk to me because I won't right now.
10:35And then, so my toner, and then I'll put on a serum and then sunscreen.
10:41And then sometimes instead of a serum, I put on a moisturizer.
10:44And then my PM routine is an oil cleanser, you know, to get out these blackheads, to get the gunk
10:51out.
10:52And then I'll either use like a CeraVe normal ass cleanser or I'll use like a pore shrinking cleanser.
10:59That's their new slogan.
11:01CeraVe normal ass cleanser.
11:05I think that is.
11:06I, yeah, I also like sleeping.
11:08And then like a pore shrink or a pore shrinking cleanser if that's my goal.
11:11And then the same thing.
11:12Toner, serum, and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid.
11:16And then I go to fucking sleep.
11:19So I think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot.
11:23Well, I will also say, I mean, it makes sense.
11:26You have flawless skin, so.
11:28And then when I take it off, it just falls apart.
11:30Yeah, he unhooks the clip back here.
11:34A clip in the back.
11:35Keeps it all up.
11:36Connor.
11:37Yes.
11:38Story.
11:39Yes.
11:39Do you have a favorite spicy scene from Heated Rivalry and a favorite from Ember and Ice?
11:43What makes those stand out for you?
11:44My favorite spicy scene from Ember and Ice is actually a scene where Dane is with two former lovers, Cassandra
11:53and Elijah.
11:54Yep.
11:58I need you to be here with me.
12:01Okay.
12:02Dane has an interaction with two of his former lovers after having been with Finn for some time.
12:12And, yeah, not to spoil, but he ends up realizing that what really works for him isn't working for him
12:19anymore.
12:20And it's kind of this moment of identity loss and, you know, what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same.
12:26And I think that's really cool.
12:28Because it's also, it's, because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy, but it also is really revealing of
12:33the character and the connection and where he's at, you know.
12:36And I think it's funny.
12:38I think I remember Dane saying something about, he's like, he's like, and then the next thing I did was
12:44I just had to come up with an excuse.
12:46And then he's like, he's like, my friends, I have bad news.
12:50I have a lot from Ember and Ice, but one is the lake scene where we kind of go in
12:56together and you kind of coax it out of me without spoiling too much.
13:00I think that one's just, you know, a lot of times like the intimacy before intimacy, I think it has
13:05more of a charge in a way.
13:07That one really got me frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry, favorite intimate scene.
13:15There was one that was really fun to film. Do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like
13:19kissing against the glass and our lips never come apart?
13:23Me and you were like, do people do this? Do people?
13:26I know it's always a fun balance, right?
13:28Of like when you're filming separate from like the audio space, when you're filming, it's like how much of it
13:35is fun TV?
13:38And then how much of it is like, is like true sex? Because at the end of the day, you
13:42know, you do have in real life, people do have those, those like movie moments where you're like, you know,
13:47you're like, yeah, yeah.
13:49And then everyone on set was like, oh, yeah, no, we, I've done that. And then Connor and I were
13:53like, oh, oh, we usually fold our clothes, place them down, then go upstairs naked and go sex now.
14:01Sex now? I'm robot. Plug me in.
14:05True or false, Hudson's roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them. Do you know?
14:13How many times? I know that you, I've, yeah, I remember this.
14:16Yep. It was true. It was one roommate. Um, and I, I mooned him 31 times.
14:23What was his reaction when you mooned him? Was he like, Hudson?
14:27Hudson. Her poor name was Chelsea. I, I have, I've talked with her and Chelsea has been like, you can
14:33say my name. And I was like, so I've since talked about this since.
14:36Double consent. Double consent. Um, and, uh, poor Chelsea would just go, I think her main reaction was like, oh,
14:44Hudson. And it made me so happy.
14:50Where, where is Chelsea now? And I, I developed different techniques over the years.
14:55Um, she's chilling. She's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls. Um, but I would go and I
15:00would do like a drive by.
15:01I had all these different techniques. And then she would bring like other, you know, um, romantic interests home.
15:07And then they're like, what's this tally up on the board? And they're like, oh, that's how many times Hudson,
15:12my roommate, has mooned me.
15:14And they were like, oh. Would you just like kind of butt crack it or would you full cheat?
15:18So I had one where I would get pants low, like I would de-pants and she would be unassuming,
15:24like maybe on her phone on the couch.
15:26And I would run by and jump in the air. So I was like a, like, like a, like a
15:31literal moon, but in fast motion.
15:34Sometimes I would just do the like, oh, drop something before we leave. Bend and I'm right there. Gotcha.
15:40Oh God.
15:43Yes. No, they, they got very athletic.
15:45But we need to clarify, if you were going to moon someone, make it a close friend.
15:49Chelsea is still my close friend.
15:51And make it, make it known that this is okay.
15:53Yep.
15:54She got a hood out of it.
15:55Do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay.
16:00Hudson, as an Asian actor leading such a hugely popular queer romance, what kind of stories or roles are you
16:05excited for more people to see you in going forward?
16:08Mmm.
16:10Yeah, I, I wanna, I wanna represent my, my Wayans out there, you know, um, I have been declared, do
16:19you know about this?
16:20Mm-mm.
16:21I'm declared the, I think princess or prince of Wayja. Me.
16:26I mean, I, I sign off on it.
16:28Okay.
16:28I think you.
16:29He's the final stamp off guy for this.
16:32So, uh.
16:32Yeah.
16:33I'm the, I'm the ambassador of Wayja as a fully, as a completely Caucasian.
16:38Yes.
16:39But, uh, as, as, uh, this, um, little Wayja and I am, I hope to just do roles that aren't
16:48always charged with, you know, I'm happy to do roles that are, you know, race has something to, to play
16:54in there.
16:54Mm-hmm.
16:55But also, I just wanna be an actor and a lot of the times I just wanna play parts where
16:59it's like, I'm, I'm just there and we don't need to go on my backstory or whatever.
17:04It's just, you know, I'm playing what any other, uh, non-person of color would play as well, you know?
17:12You're a person, you wanna be treated?
17:13I'm a person.
17:14Love it, baby.
17:15On both Heated Rivalry and Ember and Ice, you worked with an intimacy coordinator.
17:20Um, why do you think that role matters on projects like this?
17:23Was there anything about the process that you think would surprise people?
17:27Wow.
17:27I mean, I think it's so, um, yeah, that's a, yeah, that question is, I mean, it's so important.
17:34I mean, you, you literally can't do things without that role.
17:40Um, the thing that I think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about,
17:47and this is what I learned from Chayla originally and then also Jamie doing this.
17:51It's not just about the actual safety, the boundaries, monitoring what's going on, what that looks like, making sure everyone's
17:59okay.
17:59There's also actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are, like Jamie with this, you know, was also
18:08the voice that was reminding us, this is how long it's been since this happened.
18:12You know, you need to, I need to hear that shiver or that I need to hear those, um, I
18:18need to hear that feeling through your wings.
18:21I need to see that come about. I need to feel that pleasure in this way.
18:25So it's not always technical, even though that's what I feel like is brought up a lot.
18:29There is also an artistic sensibility to that job and that really promotes that conversation.
18:34Absolutely.
18:35Bring in the first ginger ale.
18:38This is so fun.
18:40We have Canada Dry, we have Schweppes, we have, can you, can someone give me a rundown of the brands?
18:46Nope, you're gonna try it and we're gonna go.
18:48I don't, I've only named two from memory.
18:50Well, how about this? I'll hold it so we don't, we don't give away anything.
18:53It's not flavor, so you can describe the flavor and the texture for it.
18:58Yep, that's my Hudson. That's my Hudson.
19:03That's not Canada Dry, this is some shitty American ginger ale.
19:07This is like Schweppes or like, um, yeah, that's my guess.
19:13You said it's not Canada Dry, why is it not Canada Dry?
19:16Yeah.
19:16Canada Dry's got more ginger in it and more bubble in it.
19:20It's just subtle ginger.
19:22Yeah.
19:22Go ahead and, should we be de-blindful?
19:24Go ahead and take a little peek.
19:27You got, we got you!
19:31Where is this imported from?
19:33This, this is, this is, no.
19:36No way.
19:37It says, it says from Frisco, Texas.
19:40Nope.
19:40Frisco, Texas, baby.
19:41I don't, I don't, this is, it changed, it changed.
19:45Bring in ginger ale number two.
19:47That is so embarrassing.
19:50Thank you so much.
19:52This one was, that one was Canada Dry.
19:55What is this one?
19:57I'm gonna, um, num, num.
19:59Um, num, num.
20:01You're my baby.
20:03Drink more.
20:05This is cough syrup.
20:07This is, this is yellow snow.
20:11What is this?
20:12A pissy pineapple.
20:15But, that's the brand, Hudson.
20:18I have to guess the brand?
20:20Davai, yeah.
20:21This is Schweppes.
20:23Okay.
20:23This one is Schweppes.
20:25Schweppes.
20:25That's also Canada Dry.
20:30I am so happy that I'm not the one tasting these,
20:33because if I was getting them wrong, I'd feel like an idiot.
20:36No, I'm kidding.
20:37No, I'm kidding.
20:39I'm kidding.
20:40Stupid.
20:40Stupid.
20:41No, you're not.
20:42I mean, they, they really set you up.
20:44Give me another one.
20:45Do you have more?
20:46Bring me, bring in, how many more?
20:49Bring in the last one.
20:51Bring it to me.
20:53Ooh, this one's a hard one.
20:59Oh, no.
21:09That's, um, that's Fevertree ginger, um, um, beer.
21:17Hudson?
21:18What?
21:19What?
21:19What flavor?
21:20There's a, there's a secondary flavor.
21:26Do you want a smell test too?
21:28You want to do like a...
21:28No, it's just ginger.
21:29No, but do like an aromatics test.
21:34Go full Somme vibes.
21:37Do you smell that?
21:39Oh, it's hard to, it's hard to smell.
21:41It's fucking ginger, pear?
21:43Fucking, it's ginger.
21:44Yeah.
21:45I'm going to be honest.
21:46He would never be able to understand.
21:47You can't taste that flavor at all.
21:50Woo!
21:51What?
21:52Blood orange.
21:53Good job.
21:53You can't taste that at all.
21:54You put food coloring in.
21:56You didn't put no blood orange in there.
21:57I will say, I kind of like this one though.
22:00That one, that one's nice.
22:01I like all of them.
22:02But I guess the brand, did I not?
22:04You killed it.
22:05When did you first realize you clicked?
22:08And what are some of your favorite memories from working together?
22:12I would say our first FaceTime outside of a chemistry read, because at that point I was
22:16always Shane.
22:17He was always Ilya.
22:18Yeah.
22:18But then when we first met over FaceTime before we went to Toronto, we had so many, like so
22:26much overlap of movies we liked, actors we liked, art we liked, and similar approaches
22:32to how we, you know, like to perform that I immediately knew.
22:37I think we clicked there.
22:38And I think that's saying a lot, because I think some of our interests can be pretty niche.
22:42The fact that there is overlap is amazing.
22:46And favorite memories, I would say all our laughs on set.
22:51Being in Muskoka was really beautiful.
22:54There was a lot of like lounging around.
22:58You know, it was just great.
23:00My favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs.
23:03What's like an inside joke that we just died over the whole time?
23:09We had to storm the set.
23:11That was also with…
23:11Oh yeah.
23:12I would always be like…
23:13Storm the set!
23:15If we couldn't afford extras, our idea was we would just like do like a cattle call.
23:20We used to joke that like we, because we would have like airport scenes and stuff where
23:25there would be like, you know, for an airport you need like a bunch of people and we'd have
23:29like five people.
23:30And I just imagined, I imagined Jacob being like, being like, Costo, get up there!
23:36And everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like, storm the set!
23:41Opening the garage and just like opening it up to the public.
23:44How does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement?
23:49I can't…
23:50I honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this.
23:55You know?
23:56Like…
23:56I think I look a little too shabby.
23:58I'm in the process of gaining weight right now.
24:01Yeah.
24:01I was…
24:01When you look…
24:02You look freaking fantastic.
24:04Well…
24:04Bring it back to my Spanish.
24:05Muchas gracias.
24:06De nada, corazón de melón.
24:08Ah, mi hermoso.
24:10Mi esposo, mi amor.
24:11Todo mi corazón.
24:14Um…
24:14Yeah, I…
24:15People…
24:16People like our bodies.
24:17Let's just be honest about it.
24:19People…
24:19You know, I care about my health.
24:21I care about my fitness.
24:22As do you.
24:25Um…
24:25Honestly, watching the show is making us work out even more.
24:28Yeah.
24:29So, what drew you to doing a Fey Romantisi story and what was it about the script that hooked you?
24:34For me, it was exploring sensuality with your voice.
24:38You know, that's the only tool you have.
24:41And it kind of scared me a little bit.
24:43And, you know, it was a really fun way to explore yourself.
24:48It was fun.
24:48It was actually fun.
24:49And, you know, it's very demanding and it's well written.
24:52I think in the booth, the term winged Hemingway came up.
24:59You know?
25:00Fantastical Hemingway.
25:02Because there was, like, war.
25:03There's, like, this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed in a lot of ways.
25:10And that was way heavier than I thought, you know, this would look like.
25:15And it was really rewarding.
25:17Mm-hmm.
25:18The story just moves really well, too.
25:20It was just written really well.
25:23As someone who, you know, is not a big reader, I think something like this would be really appealing to
25:29me.
25:30Just the way it cycles through the feelings.
25:33It cycles through the years.
25:35Different point of views.
25:36Yeah.
25:36I just think it's really, like, almost physically well done.
25:39Why do you think MM romance resonates so strongly with women right now?
25:44Mm.
25:46Yeah, we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it.
25:50But there's so many reasons.
25:51There's so many reasons.
25:52And then even just women, you know, there are straight women.
25:56There are trans women.
25:57There are gay women, like, queer women.
25:59And it's, well, that feels like a giant term to be like, I know exactly why.
26:07You know, there's like the element of you can live vicariously and you can feel safe.
26:11Mm-hmm.
26:11Like with women, this is just one opinion that I had never even considered or thought of that I saw
26:18that I think you're alluding to, which is if you are female and you are, you are taken out of
26:26the equation, there's, and you're, there's a spectatorship to that.
26:31There's like, there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety, you know, like, especially women historically being put
26:40into a box in a certain way, especially when it comes to sex and pleasure.
26:43Right.
26:44It feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without the female dynamic being.
26:52Yeah.
26:53I heard, I heard someone online say, a woman say that like, when you see like a hetero couple, you
27:00know, you default to like relating with or forced to sort of relate with the woman character.
27:04Mm-hmm.
27:05And then that comes with a lot of restriction and too, and like imagination.
27:09A lot of writers, you know, are writing very conventionally, which means a lot of outdated tropes, old archetypes.
27:16And I think, you know, with getting to watch two men, it's like, they can kind of relate with this
27:21person.
27:21In one moment, they're empathetic to this person.
27:23They're not forced into a box of here, this is your person to relate with.
27:27Mm-hmm.
27:27At the end of the day though, we're both men.
27:30I have no idea what it's like to be a woman.
27:33Yeah.
27:33Yeah.
27:34And so y'all let us know.
27:35Yeah.
27:36Y'all tell us.
27:37I think me, cause I would just be, I'd be drinking.
27:42I'd be somewhere.
27:44I'd be like under a table.
27:45Yeah.
27:46Asleep, naked.
27:47But I will say you, you're really fricking athletic and you're really strong and you know how to fight.
27:54So if it came down to like a wrestling match between you and fricking Freddy Krueger, I think you're taking
28:00the cake, my boy.
28:02I'm winning.
28:03Woo.
28:04Okay.
28:05Snack time.
28:07Me.
28:09100%.
28:10Yeah.
28:10You have a little, you have a tiny bit more reverence than I do.
28:14Um, if something is overly serious, I cannot help but laugh.
28:18Mm-hmm.
28:19Cause I just become really like, oh, I become really aware of how.
28:22Do the kind of ah.
28:25Okay.
28:25It's not that pitch.
28:26You left and now, now I'm going to leave.
28:29Five, five, ten.
28:29Connor will do the like, the like, it's like so serious.
28:33He kind of gets a little, and then he goes, and I can't do his laugh.
28:35Do I do that?
28:36Do I do?
28:37And then he goes.
28:38Do I do a Polly pocket hand?
28:42That's Connor.
28:43I accept myself.
28:44This is what, we're rocking this.
28:45We're rocking it.
28:46I accept myself.
28:48Me.
28:49Oh, yeah.
28:50I'm dirty.
28:51You're like, you're pretty clean.
28:52I'd eat anything off the ground.
28:54No.
28:58Not me.
28:59You're online more than I am.
29:00Yeah.
29:00Well, I just love YouTube.
29:01I love the little like, video essay on this movie.
29:06Essay on this little actor.
29:07Have you learned this about Genghis Khan?
29:10And I'm like, wow.
29:11There's so much to know.
29:12Nerd.
29:13Are these book talk trivia things?
29:15H-E-A.
29:16Heaven eats ass.
29:17I don't know.
29:19Yeah.
29:19Heaven eats ass.
29:20Is that it?
29:21Really?
29:21What is it?
29:23Happily Ever After.
29:24Fuck.
29:25Yeah.
29:26Okay.
29:28Okay.
29:29This one's harder.
29:30The rake and the cake.
29:31The what?
29:32The rake and the cake.
29:34Well, you break up some people together and then you ass.
29:39Yeah.
29:40Are these all going to be ass related?
29:43They are for me.
29:45The grumpy sunshine trip.
29:46Like the rake and the cake.
29:48Oh, right, right.
29:49Oh, I see.
29:50I see.
29:50Oh, I like that.
29:52I like those.
29:52I like those ones.
29:53Yeah.
29:53I like the grump.
29:55Why tubes?
29:56Why?
29:57Is this a love triangle thing?
29:59Mmm.
29:59Ooh.
30:00Threesome.
30:01It scares me a little.
30:02Foot in both jars of peanut butter, if you know what I mean.
30:05Don't make me nervous on Twitter.
30:06We're going to react to some tweets.
30:08You don't scare me.
30:09Connor's story.
30:10You need to stop.
30:11Your face too smiley.
30:12Your ass too fat.
30:14Juicy.
30:14Your line delivery too good.
30:16They'll kill you.
30:17You really, I mean, you ended on a...
30:18Line delivery too good?
30:19Yeah.
30:20I'm cool with that.
30:21I feel good.
30:24Whenever we read tweets, I don't know if I'm supposed to like thank you or if I'm supposed
30:29to like genuinely be like, whoa.
30:32I guess all of it kind of.
30:34Hudson Williams' back dimples.
30:37That's it.
30:38That's the tweet.
30:39Oh.
30:40I didn't realize I had these little back dimples, but then I saw the receipts and I saw my dimpled
30:48cheek back thing and...
30:50We were all seeing it.
30:51Yeah.
30:52I was seeing it.
30:53Damn.
30:54For real.
30:55I love whatever is wrong with y'all.
30:59My Cynthia and Ariana.
31:04Fine.
31:05I'm invested in heated rivalry.
31:06Not because of their giant bouncy bluh bluh bluh bluh, but because it's a true yearner.
31:12I'm a sucker for a good romance.
31:14The yearning is the thing.
31:16I think that's probably the sexiest part for people, honestly.
31:19You want to know how we got these bodies?
31:20If you yearn enough, your ass gets fat.
31:23Despite all the memes, I have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy isn't just spice
31:29on top of the romance, but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics and character and also
31:34physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things.
31:38Jacob talks about this and that was one of the first things I think he brought to us to try
31:45and explain his vision,
31:46which was, you know, when you read the scripts, when you read the pages, it can sound very sex heavy.
31:51But to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how they connect.
31:58Yeah, I think that is.
31:59I think that's kind of, you know.
32:02For the first years of their life, that's how they communicate.
32:04That's where their relationship builds.
32:06And, you know.
32:07That's not usually how sex is used in media.
32:10Yeah.
32:11Meteor.
32:13I need Hudson Williams to know that so many people imagine, draw, write, and read about him getting pregnant.
32:19Including me.
32:21Is that crazy?
32:22Oh, he knows.
32:23And even comments on it.
32:23Yeah, Mara.
32:24Keep the rivalry updates.
32:25Pointing this out to me.
32:26I know.
32:27But when I learned that about the fan fiction.
32:29I was like, whatever floats your boat, you know.
32:32Yeah.
32:33I mean, I think that's like, I think that's in the deep fanfic side.
32:36Yeah.
32:37I don't understand it.
32:39But I'm like, you know what, you freaks, you gung ho, you go get it.
32:43You know, if you can go get fictional me pregnant.
32:46Fictional me.
32:48Knock him up.
32:50This is another one about my butt.
32:52Again, y'all aren't ready for this one.
32:55Connor Story deserves A-O-T-Y.
32:57What's A-O-T-Y mean?
32:59Happy year.
33:00Connor Story, ass of the-
33:01I don't like this tweet.
33:02It should be ass of the century.
33:05Hey, whoa, whoa.
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