00:00I want to ask you about the finale moment and the role Esther plays in Noah and Joanne and kind
00:04of getting back together.
00:06What did it mean to you to be in that scene?
00:08And what do you think it meant for Esther to play such a key part in their relationship?
00:13I think the most.
00:15I think it meant, honestly, it probably meant more to Jackie than it did to Esther because Esther is so
00:20in her own thing with Sasha at that moment.
00:24But she's just like telling Joanne the truth and how she sees it.
00:29And because Esther is so no BS, when she is giving it to you straight and it's gentle and it's
00:36so deeply true in the way that it is, you have no questions.
00:41You're not like, oh, she's lying to me or she's just saying that to make me feel better.
00:45You know she's not capable.
00:46She wouldn't say a certain thing to make anyone feel better ever.
00:49And I think for Jackie, just so exciting to be myself and be such a kibitzer and such a yenta
00:58and a person who loves Kogel so much.
01:00To be sitting in a scene, it's meta, with my best friend and being like, you're a kibitzer, you're a
01:06yenta, you're all these things that people, it's just like, you can't, you can't imagine.
01:13I don't know if dream come true is the right thing because I never even dreamed to have that because
01:16it's so specific and special.
01:18But it really felt divine of like, I have to call my mom and read these pages to her.
01:25She's going to plot.
01:26And she did.
01:30She's going to plot.
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