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Intervista a Barry Jenkins, regista di Mufasa - Il re leone, prequel del classico di animazione anni '90 e del film live action di Jon Favreau.
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00:00Hakuna Mufasa to you
00:01and Merry Christmas
00:03Merry Christmas to you as well
00:14Lion King is 30 years old
00:17this year, I want to know
00:19what did you feel the first time
00:21that you saw the circle of life
00:23on the big screen?
00:25I don't remember seeing
00:26the movie for
00:28the first time
00:30my sort of memory is more
00:33stamped with
00:34this period of watching the film
00:37over and over again while I was
00:38babysitting my nephews
00:41and watching them
00:43the circle of life, yes, is so
00:45beautiful, the way that film
00:47opens, but I remember really
00:49watching them watch the scene
00:51after the stampede
00:52where Simba walks up to Mufasa
00:55and understanding just how complex
00:57the emotions this film was taking them through
01:01as children, how complex that was
01:03that's what I remember the most about it
01:05and thinking about the circle of life
01:07Kio says that he's the villain
01:09so the circle of life is a lie
01:13do you agree with him?
01:14I don't know that I agree with him
01:15but I think that he has a perspective
01:18and that perspective comes out of his actual lived experience
01:21you know, I thought Mads Mikkelsen
01:23did a really wonderful job
01:25similar to the way Jeremy Irons
01:27was a really wonderful job in the original film
01:29of bringing this woundedness
01:31this bitterness
01:31this heartbrokenness
01:33to his performance as Scar
01:34we get to go through and explore
01:36that woundedness, that bitterness
01:38that heartbrokenness
01:39in this film, Utaka
01:40I think Mads, similarly
01:42you know, these lions that
01:45you know, that Mads plays
01:46Kiro's leader of the outsiders
01:49they're ostracized because they look different
01:51you know, from the other lions
01:52they have this genetic abnormality
01:55that creates this lighter coat
01:56and because of that
01:58they are forced out of the circle of life
02:02and so his opinion on that is
02:03well, if I can't be a part of it
02:05it shouldn't exist
02:05and so I think that's a really interesting thing
02:09you know, for an actor to play
02:12and a really complex notion
02:14you know, of why
02:16you know, this group of lions
02:17these outsiders
02:18why they evolved to become
02:20the source of evil
02:22there's a really interesting line
02:24that says
02:25that's what mace do
02:26we protect the pride
02:28while we sleep
02:29that's power
02:30it's so interesting
02:32I want to know
02:33what is real power to you
02:35and what makes a good leader
02:36I think this movie
02:38you know, through the journey
02:39that Mufasa goes on
02:40you know, I think we create
02:42at least in my opinion
02:44a really wonderful image
02:45of what depicts
02:46what creates a great leader
02:48but you know what
02:49I'll step outside Mufasa
02:50I'll go to Eshe
02:51who is actually Taka's mother
02:53but sort of adopts Mufasa
02:55the way she teaches him
02:57to sort of be one
02:58with the elements
02:59the way she teaches him
03:01to respect, you know
03:02the lives of all the animals
03:05in the animal kingdom
03:06I think this idea
03:07of learning
03:07from your ancestors
03:08learning from your environment
03:10and not placing yourself
03:12above anyone else
03:13I think that's
03:14just such a wonderful
03:15depiction of leadership
03:17I think the reason
03:19why Mufasa can grow
03:20to become the person
03:22that we encounter
03:22you know, in the original
03:241994 film
03:25is because of how he learns
03:27from this found family
03:28that he builds
03:29how he learns the utility
03:30you know, the usefulness
03:32the power
03:33you know, of living in concert
03:35with all the other elements
03:36and all the other animals
03:37and how he learns
03:38from the females
03:40so female knowledge
03:41is important in this movie
03:42and it's beautiful
03:43and it's very important
03:45in this movie
03:45and it was one of the things
03:46that I really loved
03:47about this film
03:48when I first read it
03:49you know, The Lion King
03:50has always been
03:51about this idea
03:52of fathers and sons
03:53you know, and that's still
03:54very important
03:55in this film as well
03:56although in this case
03:57sometimes it's bad parenting
03:59by the father
03:59when you look at the way
04:00Obasi functions
04:02in Taco's life
04:03but I love that in this film
04:05we get to expand that quote
04:06the patriarchy still matters
04:08in this film
04:09but the matriarchs
04:10are just as important
04:11My favorite character
04:12is Rafiki
04:13he's amazing
04:15he says that
04:16it's not what you see
04:18it is what you
04:19what you feel
04:21and as a director
04:22how important it is to you
04:23how you feel
04:25the movie
04:26versus what you see
04:28Yeah, I saw so many things
04:31in the script
04:32so many of these little sayings
04:33especially by Rafiki
04:35the other one he says
04:35that I love is
04:36it is not what you were
04:37it is what you have become
04:39which I think is really wonderful
04:41because Mufasa
04:41manifests his own destiny
04:44I work from feeling
04:46you know, no matter
04:47what I'm creating
04:47I'm always working
04:49from feeling
04:49I'm trying to get
04:50out of my brain
04:51sort of into my heart
04:53into my gut
04:54I always feel like
04:55that's just a more
04:56direct way
04:57to access
04:57whatever it is
04:58in me
04:59that is going to be useful
05:00in creating imagery
05:01and telling these stories
05:02And Akuna Mufasa to you
05:06and Merry Christmas
05:08Merry Christmas to you as well
05:10Bye
05:11Thank you
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05:26Grazie.
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