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02:14στους δημοκρατικούς δημοκρατικούς.
02:15Στην context of the escalation in the Middle East,
02:18he said,
02:19«Given Iran's support for terrorism,
02:21its nuclear ambitions,
02:22and its regional aggression,
02:24the West cannot remain passive».
02:26Danny Lettard,
02:28a Maltese MEP from the Socialists and Democrats Group.
02:31A lawyer by training,
02:32he was elected to the European Parliament in 2024,
02:35where he is vice-chair of the delegation
02:36for relations with Iran.
02:38Commenting on the war in Iran, he said,
02:40«There are serious legal questions
02:42about this military operation.
02:43But we must not lose sight
02:45of where the root causes of this crisis lie.
02:47The Iranian regime has for decades destabilized the region,
02:50sponsored militias, and repressed its own people.
02:53I would advocate for hard diplomacy.
02:55Europe should lead talks toward de-escalation.
02:58Diplomacy should always prevail».
03:03MEPs Antonio López-Isturiz and Daniel Attard,
03:06welcome to The Ring.
03:08So, the idea here is to give our viewers at home
03:12a little taste of the debates that happen
03:14here in the European Parliament,
03:16so I'm sure you both will feel just at home.
03:18Let's get started.
03:19I will start with you, Antonio.
03:21We're in the second week of this war.
03:23There's really no signs of this abating right now.
03:25Are you any clearer now on what the end goals
03:29of both the U.S. and Israel are here?
03:32Well, I don't think that we don't have the information,
03:35none of us.
03:35not even people at charge here in the European Union
03:38about what's going on.
03:40It should be another way.
03:42I think that also the European Union is losing a little bit,
03:45let's say, the initiative to be there, you know,
03:48in order to also help.
03:51our motto nowadays and the European flag represents precisely principles, values.
03:59And that's what we have to work with and we have to collaborate.
04:02But we are not really in the decision-making at worldwide situation,
04:09at the geopolitical situation today.
04:11Okay, you mentioned those European values.
04:13I think the EU is also built on this concept of international law and respect for the rules.
04:19You've said, Daniel, that, you know, this initial strike from the U.S. and Israel
04:23that triggered the war was not in line with international law.
04:26So, is it right now that the EU, as Antonio says,
04:28does more to support the U.S. and Israel in this war?
04:31The EU should stand up for its values, as my colleague has said.
04:37Our mission is clear, in my opinion.
04:39We should, first of all, push for the escalation,
04:43build a path towards a return to diplomacy,
04:45protect our citizens and our interests in the region,
04:49and we should also stand firm with the long struggle of the Iranian people for freedom and dignity.
04:55Because, as I said, there are serious questions on the legality,
05:00of this military operation,
05:02but we should not lose sight of the historical context of the Iranian regime,
05:07how the crisis unfolded over the past decades, not just over the past 15 days.
05:12Okay, but let me put this to you.
05:13Is the war so far doing anything to help the Iranian people?
05:17The Iranian regime has been, for years, building up its nuclear capacity.
05:23Its movements to become military-grade uranium.
05:27also has been sponsoring terrorist attacks all over the world for years.
05:33I think it's also about a time that Iran and the regime
05:36learns about also principles and values.
05:38And sometimes, sometimes, we have to be strict on this.
05:42But we've seen the Supreme Leader being replaced by his son.
05:46So, if it is regime change that the U.S. and Israel are pursuing,
05:49it doesn't seem that that's working so far.
05:52Do you think it's right to pursue regime change from the skies?
05:54I think it should be a joke to say that we have a regime change when the son takes from
05:58the father.
06:00Let's say a sad joke, because these people have killed thousands,
06:04specifically also women, that were fighting for the freedoms in Iran.
06:08We cannot escape that reality.
06:11So, also, we have to fight for our principles and values,
06:14fighting this kind of regimes.
06:16And for them to change, and also to have, and I agree with Daniel,
06:21that we give the Iranian people the opportunity also to take the future for themselves,
06:27for a democratic future in Iran.
06:28I am sure that we, him and I, and many in this parliament, we agree.
06:32There was a resolution two weeks ago about Iran.
06:35Only nine votes against from the extreme right.
06:37The rest of the parliament was absolutely agreeing.
06:40I had the pleasure, the honor of being the chief negotiator of this resolution.
06:44And that was the image of this parliament united for that purpose.
06:47So, there's consensus on that, on the brutality of the Iranian regime
06:51and the need for the EU to support the pro-democracy, pro-freedom movement.
06:55But a socialist voice in Europe, Pedro Sánchez, the prime minister of Spain,
07:00has also been very firm in calling for restraint and this message of no to war.
07:06Do you stand with his message?
07:08Pedro Sánchez spoke for the upholding of international law.
07:12And I believe in this house we all stand for international law,
07:17international order, and multilateralism.
07:19What do you make, both of you, of the response from the EU institutions?
07:25Who speaks on behalf of the EU when it comes to this conflict?
07:29Maybe you can start here.
07:30Listen, the European Parliament has been clear and consistent.
07:34We have been calling for the designation of the IRGC as a terrorist organization
07:39for at least three years.
07:42Three years repeating our call for this designation,
07:45and it took the council three years to align with the parliament's position.
07:48So this institution where we stand today has been clear and vocal.
07:52But we lack the unanimity as a European Union.
07:57Yes, but if I may, there is an all-out war happening affecting Europe,
08:02shockwaves in terms of energy prices, economic fallout, and so on.
08:05Now that there is a war happening, who speaks for Europe?
08:08Do you think that it should be von der Leyen, for example?
08:12No, clearly it's not Pedro Sánchez.
08:13Let me point that because he is now in the, let's say, pre-electoral process in Spain.
08:18And it's not good to mix things and to give rhetorics, like the no-true war.
08:23I mean, we don't want wars. No one wants.
08:26But to use it, you know, for internal purposes,
08:29now more than ever we have to be united.
08:32There has not to be any discordant voices.
08:35We have to, and maybe, maybe, what Pedro Sánchez should do
08:39is come to the council, agree with, you know, the prime ministers,
08:42even from Malta, from Germany, everybody, and we have a common position.
08:46That's how things are done in this European Union,
08:49and at least he should respect that.
08:50Can you give him credits for at least being very firm,
08:53in the sense that other EU leaders seem to be treading this very fine line
08:57between condemning the Iranian regime,
09:00supporting some kind of change in the regime and the toppling of the regime,
09:03but yet not really standing very clear on what it makes of this U.S.-Israeli intervention.
09:08Isn't treading this fine line in the middle making the EU irrelevant here?
09:14No. Now, more than ever, we need that single voice.
09:17We don't need voices spread around in this European Union,
09:21because that's what everybody is asking from us.
09:24If we want to be really an actor on the ground in many areas where, again,
09:29the European Union, with its principles and values,
09:31can contribute also to alleviate the effects of what's going on.
09:36And on that, because we are seeing big impacts in terms of oil prices already,
09:40should the EU be doing more to be more proactive here to anticipate the possible impact on European citizens?
09:48We have been saying this from across the chamber for weeks, months, and also years.
09:54We have to build our strategic autonomy, be it economically, be it in terms of energy, be it in terms
09:58of security.
09:59Strategic autonomy does not mean that we are being hostile to the U.S.
10:04But it will actually strengthen the strategic partnership.
10:08But strategic partnership does not have to mean strategic dependence.
10:11So, yes, to answer your question, we have to do more to be more autonomous,
10:15to be able to shape future events rather than simply react to them as we have been doing,
10:20not just in this crisis, but also when it comes to the war in Ukraine and other conflicts around the
10:27world.
10:27But does that mean drastically reducing the reliance on the U.S. when it comes to Europe's defense?
10:33As I said, building our strategic autonomy does not mean weakening our strategic partnerships.
10:40Maybe a final response to that?
10:43Strategic autonomy means inside the systems where we are, the structures where we are, NATO, United Nations,
10:51that we have Europeans together, we have a single voice, again, not dispersed voices on electoral purposes,
11:00but a single voice in these structures, that we react as, and also we are working with our allies.
11:09Who are our allies? Democratic countries.
11:12That might be perfect or imperfect.
11:14Maybe they have not elected the president we wanted, or yes, but they are democracies.
11:19And we have to be patient like they are also with us sometimes, I have to say.
11:23Let me stop you there. I see we're getting warmed up here in the debate.
11:26But it's now time to move on to the second round.
11:34It's time for our contenders to directly challenge each other.
11:37They've come here today armed with their own questions for their opponents.
11:42So let's hear them and let me start with you, Daniel, your first question to Antonio.
11:46So, Antonio, we have been talking about strategic autonomy, but does that mean that we have to align with decisions
11:54taken by others across the region, across the transatlantic?
11:59Not to follow. And I think, I'm sure that we should agree.
12:02Not to follow, but to be in the decision making.
12:06And also contributing with our European values in that decision making.
12:10Maybe we could have, we could do a difference.
12:13My maybe autocritic is that maybe the Europeans, we are not soon enough in places where decisions are taken.
12:20These are the opportunities that we cannot miss.
12:23Antonio, your first question to Daniel.
12:26Again, our allies. I talked about our allies. Daniel, what do you think?
12:31I mean, should we stay, you know, also with them?
12:35They are democratic countries. Should we go in another way?
12:40What's your view on this?
12:41So, you're talking about the Gulf countries and the US, I'm assuming?
12:43Yes, of course. And Israel, by the way, also.
12:45And Israel.
12:46As I said, we should, first of all, invest in our strategic autonomy
12:50so that we are able, as a European Union, to speak with one voice
12:53and to shape events rather than simply react to them as we have been doing.
12:57But we should also, yes, work with our allies closely.
13:01Let's speak about the transatlantic allegiance, the elephant in the room.
13:05The EU and the US share decades of strategic partnership.
13:09And I believe that that strategic partnership will outlast any single crisis.
13:14I believe that, beyond political rhetoric, that strategic alliance will outlast this war.
13:21And we can build on that, building on that while also building our own strategic autonomy.
13:27As a product of a transatlantic relation that I am, my mother is American, I have to say, I agree
13:32absolutely.
13:33Good. Very good. Daniel, your second question to Antonio.
13:36So, my question is this. Would you think, speaking of the Iranian people,
13:40we said that they now have the hope for freedom and for dignity, something which they long have been fighting
13:47for?
13:48But do you think that their future can be decided by foreign powers or by missiles dropping in their country?
13:55No. And we said it before, you and me. I think that we agree.
13:59And, by the way, you are an expert. You are in the Iranian delegation here in the European Parliament.
14:04And I have been passionately involved in the fight against this regime.
14:08By the way, I'm in the black list of the regime.
14:10To tell you that, you know, we have to join efforts in order to tackle with this regime.
14:16that we have to be prudent also in the way that the Iranian people feel our support.
14:25And they feel it in a way that they can race against this regime.
14:29They have done it before. Remember, just this Christmas, there were 6,000 people killed in the streets of Iran.
14:35Because of that, we need to be to them and we have to give them the clear messages of our
14:40support.
14:41But very briefly, if I may, just to push further on that question.
14:45Do you think that this war is actually helping and sending that signal from the West?
14:51The signal that you've just spoken about to the Iranian people?
14:54I think that the willing also to change the regime in Iran is maybe, maybe,
14:58giving this, you know, support, this help to the European, to the Iranian people.
15:06It's soon to know. We don't know what's going on in the streets.
15:09There is an internet blackout. There is no communication.
15:12We don't know, Daniel, me and anyone here, what's going on in the streets of Tehran, on Isfahan.
15:17Okay. You know, but we wish and we want the Iranian people to feel our support.
15:22Not only for resolutions, but also with action.
15:25Okay. We have time for a very last question from you, Antonio, to Daniel.
15:29Yes. Sanctions, Daniel. Because I just heard the president of the socialist group,
15:36Irache Garcia, talking about, you know, that we need more sanctions to asphyxiate the regime.
15:45Do you think that we have done enough or not in the European Union?
15:48I mean, this is a question that we all members have in the different groups.
15:51I think that the parliament has done its job.
15:53It has been consistent, but we definitely have to do more.
15:55We have to, we need hard diplomacy.
15:58We need to increase the pressure on the regime.
16:00We still have embassies operating like business as usual in the European Union.
16:04I think we should take action on that.
16:06And also, obviously, we need the council to be more fast.
16:08Because as we have seen, political hesitation carries consequences.
16:12Okay. Thank you both for your own questions there.
16:16But it's time now to bring new voices into the debate.
16:24Now, earlier this week, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen delivered a speech
16:29pitching a new way forward for the EU in the way it does foreign policy.
16:35Let's listen to what she had to say and also the reaction from her own vice president, Teresa Ribeira.
16:40Europe can no longer be a custodian of the old world order.
16:45For a world that has gone and will not return.
16:49We will always defend and uphold the rules-based system that we helped to build with our allies.
16:56But we can no longer rely on it as the only way to defend our interests.
17:02It is fair to say that maybe it was not the most adequate manner to express herself.
17:11But, yes, she is fully committed, of course, to the international order.
17:16But, to me, it is key to defend, to stress, to underline that the international law is a key element
17:25of building the European project and the European security.
17:28The large majority of countries around the world think that this is the best thing we have done since the
17:34end of World War II.
17:35But it is absolutely key for Europe.
17:39Antonio, is von der Leyen right? Does the EU need to change the way it does foreign policy in this
17:44new world?
17:45It's a little bit sad, no, to see the vice president of the commission receiving phone calls from the prime
17:48minister of Spain and introducing his agenda.
17:52I don't think that, you know, in the declarations of Ursula, I don't see the agenda of anyone except the
17:57European one.
17:58When she said we cannot set a tear for the regime, I think that we can all agree, you know,
18:05with this approach.
18:06Well, we do have a socialist here on set. You belong to the same political family as Rivera, of course,
18:12and the prime minister Pedro Sánchez.
18:13What do you make of that?
18:14I think that beyond the political rhetoric with an upcoming election in Spain, what Pedro has said is he stood
18:24up for international law, for what we stand for in this house.
18:28But it also shows the beauty of this house that we can have different opinions, but we can also agree
18:34on the basics.
18:34And to be clear, international crises rarely offer simple answers, but complexity does not have to mean moral blindness.
18:45Okay, but what the lion is saying that, you know, continuing with the same agenda is naive because the world
18:51around us is changing.
18:53Do you agree with her in that, in that, you know, there needs to be more pragmatic interest-based approach
19:00to the EU's foreign policy?
19:01I'm all for a pragmatic-based approach, but we have to be able also to speak with one voice when
19:08it comes to what we stand for, our values, the rule of law, international order.
19:12And we must also be able to condemn the killing of innocents, like the children, the school children which were
19:19killed innocently in the United States.
19:19But was the timing of her speech right, would you say?
19:21The speech of von der Leyen.
19:23And when she casts a little bit of a doubt on the strength of the EU's kind of commitments to
19:29the rules-based order, she said that you can no longer be a custodian of that rules-based order.
19:34I wouldn't subscribe to that. I think that, as a European Union, we should be strong in standing up for
19:40our values, because that is the core foundation of why this union was founded after the Second World War.
19:46Okay, let me stop you there, because it's time for us to take a short break here on The Ring,
19:50but stay with us. We'll be back very soon.
20:01Welcome back to The Ring, Euronews' new weekly debate show.
20:06I'm joined by MEPs Daniel Attard and Antonio López-Estudy to discuss the US and Israel's war with Iran and
20:14the ripple effects felt in Europe.
20:17The conflict has, of course, caused the effective closure of the Strait of Hormuz.
20:22Let's take a look at why that matters for Europe.
20:26As you can see there, around 20% of the world's oil passes through the Strait.
20:33Major exporters of energy include Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Iraq and Iran.
20:40And why does this matter for Europe? Well, about 13% of EU oil imports are transited through Hormuz.
20:48And, of course, this is why there is growing concern here in Europe about the potential impact on prices and
20:55on consumers' pockets.
20:57I should also note that the US is now saying it has eliminated Iranian mine-laying ships in the Strait.
21:04Also, the International Energy Agency is proposing the largest ever oil release from strategic reserves.
21:11The situation is obviously evolving quickly.
21:14Do we need to see a more proactive response from the EU here?
21:17Because we could see a big impact on European consumers.
21:20I think what this tells you is that the Iranian regime is at its weakest. Why?
21:26Because while 13%, as you quoted, of the EU's imports come from that Strait,
21:31but 100% of Iranian's exports pass through that Strait.
21:35So this is a suicidal decision by the Iranian regime, which is in dire straits and which is at its
21:41weakest.
21:41And by appointing another Khamenei to the role of Supreme, it tells you all you need to know about this
21:48regime.
21:49The time of this regime is up. I've said it before and I say it again.
21:52Your response?
21:53For once, Macron, for once, Macron is right when he sent the aircraft carrier to Cyprus and, you know,
22:00and he's taking the frigates and also talking about the European defense of the Strait of Hormuz.
22:07It's not only about oil and gas. It's also our allies in the region.
22:12Gulf countries like the United Emirates.
22:14There are full thousands of European citizens working every day there.
22:19It's also a hub for millions of Europeans that they fly to other continents.
22:24It is a very attractive place and they have done it and they have approached us during these latest years.
22:29So we need to be by them. They are suffering the indiscriminate attacks from the regime.
22:35I think that the Europeans, we have to be very clear on that.
22:38And very briefly, EU leaders will be gathering in Brussels next week.
22:41Is there anything they should be doing now to prepare for a potential further spike in prices and the impact
22:46on the European economy?
22:48Yes, we should be, as Macron has stated, and also Ursula.
22:54And I don't want to advance because I don't want to give a different opinion.
22:57I rely on all of them united.
23:00But my ask is that Europe is there, present for our allies in the region, in the Gulf, to protect
23:08them.
23:09Not, again, not only the oil and gas.
23:11So it's about sending frigates to the region to patrol, to protect commercial vessels.
23:15The Strait of Hormuz, it's worldwide. It's not only Europe. It's worldwide stability. And that's what we have to be
23:21there for.
23:22The US is already doing this as well. We keep hearing, though, that this is not like 2022.
23:27This is not the crisis that we saw back then, the energy crisis when Russia invaded Ukraine.
23:33Do you think it's naive to say that you need to be more kind of proactive here, for example, in
23:37anticipating the possible impact on electricity prices?
23:41As I was saying from the start of this debate, we must be more strategically autonomous, not to react to
23:46future crises, but to be able to shape them.
23:49What does that mean? Does it mean more nuclear? Does it mean more green energy?
23:52What I wanted to say is that very well connected. Ukraine, what's going on in the Middle East, these are
23:59warning calls.
24:00Wake up calls for us Europeans, that we are surrounded by regimes, that they don't like our way of living,
24:06our democracy.
24:07And now, Europeans, we are understanding that we have to do something about it.
24:12Of course, the question of energy is crucial. Europe is dependent on energy.
24:17We do not produce energy by ourselves enough for our powerful industry, for our jobs, also for our social structure.
24:27Yeah, but not enough. Unfortunately, not enough yet to sustain our system.
24:32So we have to do something about it.
24:35Do you support what Wanderlein said earlier this week about more nuclear energy, going back to that?
24:39Well, I just discovered, you know, as you know, and all of us that, you know, now it's a green
24:43energy, by the way, recognized by the European institutions and by the European Parliament.
24:47So, good for that.
24:49Yes. Very briefly, just to close. Do you think this should really propel efforts to invest more in either nuclear
24:56or green energies?
24:58100%. We should diversify to ensure that we are independent as much as possible.
25:02Okay. Now it's time to move on to our fifth and final round today.
25:12In our very last round of debate, I will ask you a set of very short questions, and I do
25:18require a very short answer, yes or no.
25:21Referendum.
25:22Yes or no, if possible. Let's start here with you, Daniel.
25:27Do you support the US and Israel's war on Iran?
25:33International complexities do not offer simple answers.
25:35No, yes or no, then?
25:37There are serious questions about the military operation, but it has brought us the closest to bring about a change
25:43in the regime.
25:43Okay. Do you support the war, yes or no?
25:45If there are, you know, ways to take out this regime in Iran, you know, that we are many, we
25:51have prayed for that for many years, good.
25:53Is that the way? I don't know. We'll see now.
25:56Let's see if we get shorter on the second one.
25:58Do you believe the war can be a success for the West?
26:03You are making our life harder to answer yes or no.
26:05I can see.
26:06It is definitely a wake-up call, and with dubious intentions there could be good outcomes.
26:12Okay.
26:13Wars are not successful, never.
26:17And especially when they are started by someone that is building out their nuclear capacities to end us.
26:23Let me give you an easier one.
26:25Is the war a threat to European security? Yes or no?
26:28Yes.
26:29Yes.
26:31Is the war that Donald Trump, but specifically Donald Trump himself, a threat to European security? Yes or no?
26:40The transatlantic relation has been a strength, not a threat.
26:44Is Donald Trump a threat?
26:46Transatlantic relation.
26:47Whoever is the president, I have had relations with Democrats, Republicans, you know, whatever it is, you know,
26:52you can like it or not, but we have to work on that.
26:55Is the EU currently too reactive and not proactive enough in its response to the war?
27:03Yes.
27:04Is the EU too reactive and not proactive enough in its response?
27:08Yes.
27:09And is the crisis, would you say, a test of Europe's geopolitical credibility?
27:15Definitely.
27:16Absolutely.
27:18Okay.
27:19Okay.
27:19And that brings this edition of The Ring to an end.
27:23Thank you so much to our guests today, MEPs Antonio Lopetisturiz and Daniel Attard.
27:28Thank you also to you at home for watching.
27:32We'll be back next week with another Head to Head.
27:35In the meantime, write to us with your suggestions at thering at euronews.com.
27:39And see you soon here on Euronews.
27:42And see you soon here on Euronews.
27:43.
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