00:00As a woman in the situation, what was your take on the whole Pilates body?
00:04Like, I just, it was so disgusting.
00:08Yeah, it was really hard to watch and to hear because I, I mean, as a woman, you can be
00:16the most beautiful person in the world.
00:18You can be a 10 out of 10 and you're still going to have insecurities, right?
00:21It's normal.
00:22We nitpick ourselves to death.
00:24And Jess is a stunning woman, you know?
00:27And that's, you know, subjective for me or objective, I guess, probably to most people.
00:34But, you know, and it's not even about that, you know?
00:36She's got this incredible, beautiful heart and Chris fell in love with her without even seeing her.
00:41And so it was, it was just really, really, I didn't want to say icky, not even cringy.
00:47It was just really hurtful and shocking that there's people, one, that even have those internal thoughts about women or
00:53about other humans in general.
00:55But then two, to like be able to say it out loud and say it to that person in such
01:00like a hurtful way.
01:01And three, knowing that you're doing it on camera.
01:04So, yeah, it was really hard to watch back.
01:07It's slimy.
01:08And it's hard for, I think that's an issue with men friendships too.
01:13Sometimes it's hard to kind of sustain that and cultivate it because as a man, sometimes you see that behavior
01:18in the back end, little inklings of it, whether it was in high school, whatever the case may be.
01:22And you don't think twice, but then you're like, oh, that's, that's wrong.
01:25Like something's off with that.
01:27Something's slimy there that needs to be corrected.
01:29And, and with Chris's situation as an adult, 30 years or however old he is, when we were on the
01:35men's side, he showed up completely different.
01:37Like he, he actually showed up as a standup dude on the men's side.
01:42So seeing it play back, like the comments that were made and things like that, it was like, oh, heck
01:46no.
01:47So, yeah.
