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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's
00:09your favorite? Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I
00:15really want to learn Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish.
00:20And living in LA, there's Spanish everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like,
00:24exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life, but I think it's, I think it's
00:30sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the sexiest
00:36language there is. I like the traditional Spain Spanish. Vamos a la playa de
00:41Barcelona. Con Javier Baedén. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban, right?
00:50She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback
00:55Mountain. Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck
01:00with you, either growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one
01:04of the first things that you told me. Yeah. I love, Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I
01:09still think it's his best work. I think that was one of the first pivotal ones
01:13when you have two leading men take on, you know, gay cowboys. It's pretty bold, but
01:19then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight, I think with Barry
01:23Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said. That was
01:28already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he
01:32wanted to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in
01:40high school at that time, and I remember that being the first thing that felt like it
01:45was really a part of the cultural zeitgeist. And also handled, like, it also handled
01:51queer stories in a really cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it
01:57so human, you know, which I think also was kind of like a moonlight scenario where
02:02we're taking these people in such a specific time and place and, like, letting
02:07them explore love. Right. What does smut mean to you?
02:12Hmm. I'm going to try to make an acronym. Sexy. This is going to be in relation to, um,
02:20into, uh, Ember and Ice. Ember and Ice. Um, sexy. Magic. Um, universe.
02:38universe
02:38I have no idea.
02:41What did I say?
02:41Sexy, magic, universe.
02:47Titillating.
02:48Yeah.
02:49Yeah, we'll do that.
02:50Titillating.
02:51Oh, you very publicly shot your shot for Nightwang.
02:55Which was extremely fun to watch.
02:57have you been a dc fan and what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you especially the
03:02ones that say you have the face the talent and the butt i will be completely honest i when i
03:09saw
03:09like some fan art of you as nightwing i was like blown away whoa like i i mean you never
03:16know if
03:17that's going to come to fruition or not but yeah i see like someone did you in the comic book
03:21style
03:22i was like i see it right away wow yeah i would i would love to play him i love
03:27dc i love um i loved
03:30all like comic books that were true to the source material um and i think you know there are a
03:40lot
03:40of good filmmakers who like bring their own style to these you know beloved um um comics that i think
03:47it would be really great to work with them you know i'm not fully set on nightwing you know i'm
03:52open to other things um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no always something
03:59that's been like i absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven
04:06so when like a guy like james gunn um or matt reeves you know comes to comics it i think
04:12that's what
04:12draws me um and and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen titans i know there's yeah but
04:19yeah
04:21james gunn he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like ilia in real life and connor
04:27is
04:27more like shane i think me and you are both like rose and i'm like svetlana i just said me
04:34and you
04:34are both like rose but i'm just i'm just parting ways that's so svetlana for you to say um i
04:41don't
04:41know i mean maybe i do feel like ilia i don't know i think that um i i'm i'm too
04:49sensitive or
04:50outwardly sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be ilia i could be a little
04:55cocky like ilia yeah but beyond that it's like i think shane and ilia sort of share us you know
05:02a soulfulness that's kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um uh masks
05:08but i think i think underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the
05:15heart
05:15and and their soul after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales
05:21and if true how did that happen um i did i have a reason for coming up to vancouver i
05:28just want to
05:28come see yeah come hang out am i not good enough right come on yeah i just i don't know
05:32why
05:32for a second i was like i have something to do up there i have nothing to do in vancouver
05:37i was there so yeah i just went up to see um i just came up to see you we
05:43knew we wanted to get
05:43matching tattoos i hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and
05:49yeah i think you came up with sex but like we were both pitching ideas and then like one person
05:55would like them the other person wouldn't and then when you said sex sales i was like oh we were
05:59sold that's the first idea you've had that's good i think it's honestly my most well done tattoo
06:03as well so that feels good the front of my shin pull in here zoom in okay true or false
06:11you ate a
06:12pound of beef of ground beef a day while filming heated rivalry true um connor told me what his
06:19routine was and after i saw him in person um i asked him how he got to that size i
06:25thought he was
06:25taking illicit substances he wasn't he does it super clean sorry i mentioned illicit substances
06:31um but i have nothing to hide bring it on but he was so
06:37just like so i was like what are you eating freak i was like i'm eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that and i was like i think that means ground
06:49beef um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor was actually the
06:55person who put me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know
07:00ilia
07:00cheeks um and chests you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into
07:08cardiac arrest and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you
07:13know pumped up pecs and a shut down fucking look you look good digestive system it's really
07:18unfortunate if it ends that way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one up this true or false
07:24i actually think that we ate more than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has
07:28i think
07:2984 grams of protein and you need a solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes i
07:36can eat two pounds of ground beef a day plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was
07:41having so much
07:42salad because by the end i got like gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like
07:47and by the end i was like 10 pounds heavier and it's because of yeah yeah you i mean you're
07:52very
07:52inspiring i'm glad that we had each other because it would have been really hard to be motivated if
07:56you know we were going back to our 12 hour days and then the gym and then like going back
08:00to a
08:01residence like alone it's really it's nice that i got to be like hi son let's go to gym
08:07and we would go from a fucking 11 hour day skating lesson and connor would go let's do legs and
08:13i
08:13and i looked him he's a madman that's how he has a butt he'll finish a skating lesson that takes
08:18four
08:19hours and then go legs now and i was like what are you saying i okay i knew i had
08:25a responsibility
08:27to the people he's america's ass and i i take that very seriously romance readers are famously
08:34passionate about book adaptations did you feel any pressure being bringing a beloved story to life
08:39and how did you approach making the characters your own it's good i think to go into a project
08:45accepting that you know people might be disappointed especially with something like a book where everyone
08:50already has preconceived notions they've visioned they've envisioned these characters they've drawn
08:55these characters they've gotten tattoos of these characters like the love is already there so much
09:00that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed all you can do is is read the material as much as
09:08you possibly can yeah and um and respect it show the respect show the dedication and just hope that
09:16people you know connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm i think we both had that level
09:21of
09:21whether you want to call it nihilism or not like people might just hate this people might hate your
09:26casting or they might hate my casting i'm not going to expect anything more and uh i'm just going to
09:32do the best i can but you have really no metric of if people are going to be warm to
09:38your your take
09:39i really think at the end of the day all you can do is be really intentional give it 150
09:44percent
09:45yeah just go for it you know and luckily for us this worked out really freaking well
09:55hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you break
10:00it down for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too because i
10:05like honestly
10:06i'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah your skin routine
10:11and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm going to tell you in the
10:16morning i use water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow toner but it's
10:24pretty dry
10:24it's not like i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks like they
10:28just
10:28wore a face mask i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then
10:33come talk to
10:33me because i won't right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um a serum
10:39and then sunscreen
10:41and then sometimes instead of a serum i put on a moisturizer and then my pm routine is an oil
10:47cleanser you know to get out these blackheads to get the the gunk out um and then i'll either use
10:53like a cerave normal ass cleanser or i'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser that's their new that's
10:59their new slogan cerave normal ass cleanser i think that is i yeah i also and then like a poor
11:08shrink or
11:09a poor shrinking cleanser if that's my goal and then the same thing toner serum and then either
11:14a retinol or a salicylic acid and then i go to fucking sleep so i think everyone in the studio
11:21agrees that was a lot well i will also say i mean it makes sense you have flawless skin so
11:28and then
11:28when i take it off it just falls apart yeah he unhooks the he unhooks the clip back here in
11:34the back
11:35keeps it all up connor yes story yes do you have a favorite spicy scene from heated rivalry and a
11:42favorite from ember and ice what makes those stand out for you my favorite spicy scene from ember and
11:46ice is actually a scene where dane um is with two former lovers cassandra and elijah yep
11:58i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane has an interaction with uh
12:05two of his former
12:06lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh yeah not to spoil but he he ends
12:15up realizing
12:15that what what really works for him isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of this moment of
12:21identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think that's really
12:27cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it also is
12:32really revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you know um and i think it's
12:37funny i think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like and then the next thing
12:43i did was i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then he's like he's like my
12:47friends i have bad
12:48news i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene where we kind of go
12:55in together and
12:56you kind of coax out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's just you know a lot
13:02of times
13:02like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in a way that one really got
13:08me um
13:10frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there's one that was really fun
13:16to film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing against the glass
13:20and our lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people like i know
13:26it's always
13:27a fun balance right of like when you're filming um separate from like the audio space when you're
13:32filming it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of it is like is like
13:40true sex because
13:41at the end of the day you know you do have in real life people do have those those like
13:45movie moments
13:46where you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone on set was like oh yeah no we
13:50i've done that and then connor and i were like oh oh we usually fold our clothes place them down
13:57then go about chain naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in true or false hudson's
14:06roommates
14:07once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know how many times i know
14:14that
14:14you i've yeah remember this yep it's true it was one roommate um and i i mooned him 31 times
14:22what was his reaction when you mooned him was he like hudson her poor name was chelsea i i i've
14:31talked with her and chelsea has been like you can say my name and i was like so i've since
14:35talked
14:35about this since double consent uh double consent um and uh poor chelsea would just go i think her
14:41main reaction was like oh hudson and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i
14:52i
14:52developed different techniques over the years um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like
14:58hanging off her walls um but i would go and i would do like a drive-by i had all
15:01these different
15:02techniques and then she would bring like other you know um romantic interests home and then
15:08they're like what's this tally up on the board and they're like oh that's how many times
15:12hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would you just like kind of butt crack it or
15:17would you fold so i had one where i would get pants low like i would de-pants and she
15:23would be
15:23unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and i would run by and jump in the air so
15:28i was like
15:29a like like a like a literal moon a literal moon but in fast motion sometimes i would just do
15:35the like
15:36oh drop something before we leave bend and i'm right there gotcha oh god
15:42yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were gonna moon someone
15:48yeah a close friend chelsea is still my make it make it known that this is okay
15:52yep she got a who do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay
16:00hudson as an asian actor leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or
16:05roles are you excited for more people to see you in going forward hmm yeah i i want to i
16:12want to
16:13represent my my wajins out there you know um i've been declared do you know about this i'm declared
16:21the i think princess or prince of wajia me i mean i i sign off on it okay i think
16:29you he's the final
16:30stamp off guy for this so uh yeah i'm the i'm the ambassador of wajia as a fully as a
16:36completely
16:37caucasian yes but uh as as uh this um little wajian i am i hope to just do roles that
16:47aren't
16:48always charged with you know i'm happy to do roles that are you know race has something to to play
16:54in
16:54there but also i just want to be an actor and a lot of the times i just want to
16:58play parts where it's
16:59like i'm i'm just there and we don't need to go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know
17:05i'm
17:05playing with any other uh non person of color would play as well you know you're a person you
17:13want to be treated i'm a person love it baby on both heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked
17:19with an intimacy coordinator um why do you think that role matters on projects like this was there
17:23anything about the process that you think would surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um
17:29yeah that's a yeah that question is i mean it's so important i mean you you literally can't do things
17:38without that role um the thing that i think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating
17:44is it's not just about and this is what i learned from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this
17:50it's not just about the actual safety the boundaries monitoring what's going on what
17:57that looks like making sure everyone's okay there's also actually a conjunction of an artistic edge
18:03where you are like jamie with this you know was also the voice that was reminding us this is how
18:10long it's been since this happened you know you need to i need to hear that shiver or that i
18:16need to
18:16hear those um i need to hear that feeling through your wings i need to see that come about i
18:23need
18:23to feel that pleasure in this way so it's not always technical even though that's what i feel like is
18:27brought up a lot there is also an artistic sensibility to that job and that really promotes
18:33that conversation absolutely bring in the first ginger ale this is so fun we have canada dry we have
18:41schweppes we have can you can someone give me a rundown of the brands nope you're gonna try it and
18:47we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from memory well how about this i'll hold it so we
18:51don't we don't give away anything yep that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweppes or like
19:11um yeah that's my guess you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada dry's
19:17got
19:17more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and should be deep
19:24blindfolded you god we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way
19:36it says it says from frisco texas nope frisco texas baby i don't i don't this is it changed it
19:44changed bring in ginger ale number two that is so embarrassing
19:50thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one
19:56i'm good um num num um num num you're my baby drink more
20:05this is cough syrup this is
20:09this is yellow snow what is this a pissy pineapple
20:14but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the brand
20:20dawai yeah this is schwepps this one is schwepps
20:29i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong
20:34i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding
20:40stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up give me another one do you have more
20:46bring me bring in how many more bring in the last one bring it to me
20:51oh this one's a hard one thank you oh no
21:03uh-huh
21:08that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer
21:17hudson what what what there's a there's a secondary flavor
21:26do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full som vibes
21:37do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's fucking ginger pear
21:44yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to understand you can't taste that flavor at all
21:49let's see what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food coloring in you
21:56didn't put no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though that was that
22:00one's
22:00nice i like all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed it when did you
22:05first realize
22:06you clicked and what are some of your favorite memories from working together um i would say
22:13our first face time outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was always shane he was
22:17always ilia but then when we first met over face time before we went to toronto um
22:24we had so many like so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked and
22:31similar
22:31approaches to how we you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there
22:38and i think that's saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the
22:43fact that there is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set
22:51being in muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was
22:59just great my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside
23:04joke that we just died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also with
23:11oh yeah i
23:12would always be like storm the set if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do
23:18like a cattle call we used to joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and
23:24stuff
23:24where there would be like you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and
23:28we'd
23:28have like five people and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costume let's
23:36get up there and everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage
23:41and just like opening it up to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement
23:49i can't i honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like
23:56i think i look a little too shabby i'm i'm in the process of gaining weight you know now yeah
24:01i was
24:01when you look you look freaking fantastic well bring it back to my spanish but just got out here
24:13um yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care about
24:20my health i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work out
24:27even more yeah so what drew you to doing a fey romanicy story and what was it about the script
24:32that hooked
24:33you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice you know that's the only tool you have
24:40and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know that there it was a really fun way
24:47to explore
24:47yourself it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's very demanding and it's well written i think
24:52in the booth the term winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway because there was like
25:02war there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a lot of ways um and that
25:11was way heavier than i thought you know this would look like and it was really rewarding the story just
25:19moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone who you know is not a
25:26big reader
25:27i think something like this would be really appealing to me um just the way it it cycles
25:32through the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah yeah i just think it's really
25:37like almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly with women right now
25:46yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it um there's so many reasons
25:51there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight women there are trans
25:56women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like a giant term to
26:04be
26:04like i know exactly what um you know there's like the element of you can live vicariously and you can
26:10feel safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered or thought of
26:16um that i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um and you are
26:25you are taken out of the equation there's and you're you're there's a spectatorship to that
26:31there's like a there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like especially women
26:38um historically being put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to sex and pleasure
26:43right it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without
26:49um right female dynamic being yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like
26:55when you see like a hetero um couple you know you default to like relating with or forced to sort
27:03of
27:03relate with the woman character um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and two and like
27:08imagination a lot of writers you know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of
27:14outdated tropes um old archetypes and i think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they
27:20can kind of relate with this person in one moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced
27:24into a box of here this is your person to relate with at the end of the day though we're
27:29both men
27:30i have no idea what it's like to be a woman um yeah and so y'all let us know
27:35yeah y'all tell us
27:37i think me because i would just be i'd be drinking i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table
27:45yeah asleep naked but i will say you you're really freaking athletic and you're really strong
27:52and you know how to fight so if it came down to like a wrestling match between you and leather
27:57face
27:58freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning okay snack time
28:07me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than i do um if
28:15something
28:15is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like oh i become really aware
28:21of how you do the kind of you left and now now i'm gonna leave connor will do the like
28:31the like
28:32it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and then and i can't do his lap do
28:35i do that do i do
28:37do i do a polly pocket hand i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i
28:46accept
28:46myself me oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:57not me oh i'm more than i yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and
29:10i'm like wow there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things heaven eats ass i don't
29:18know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it happily ever after yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake the what the rake and the cake well you break up
29:36some
29:36some people together and then you ass yeah are these all going to be ass related
29:43they are for me
29:47oh right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like the
29:54grump why tubes
29:56why is this a love triangle thing mm ooh threesome
30:02foot in both jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean
30:05don't make me nervous on twitter we're gonna react to some tweets you don't scare me connor's
30:09story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too good they'll kill
30:16you you really i mean you end it on delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm cool with that
30:21i feel good um
30:22i i whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank you or if i'm supposed
30:28to like
30:29yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples
30:37that's it that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i
30:43i saw the receipts and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all seeing it yeah
30:51i was i was
30:52seeing it damn for real i love whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy bullets but because it's a
31:11true yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies you're
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics
31:32and character and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things jacob
31:38talks about this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us um to try
31:44and explain
31:45his vision which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages it can sound very
31:50sex heavy but to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how they
31:57connect um yeah i think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know for the first
32:02years of
32:03their life that's how they communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know that's not
32:07usually how sex is used in media yep meteor i need hudson williams to know that so many people
32:15imagine draw right and read about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he knows
32:22and even comments on yeah mara key to rival updates pointed this out to me i know when i learned
32:27that
32:27about it's crazy i was like whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think that's
32:34like
32:34i think that's in the deep fanfic side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what you
32:41freaks you gung-ho you go get it you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me
32:48knock him up this is another one about my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor's
32:55story deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o-t-y mean connor's story ass of the i don't like
33:01this tweet it should be
33:03a-o-t-y ass of the century hey whoa whoa
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