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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:27I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Bader. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:00growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:40school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:52cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm going to try to make an acronym sexy. This is going to be in relation to
02:20into...
02:21Eb48.
02:23Sexy.
02:24Magic.
02:28Universe?
02:31T-t-t-t-t-te.
02:33T-t-t-t-t.
02:35T-t-tongue.
02:36T-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t
02:38-t-t.
02:39I have no idea.
02:40What did I say?
02:41Sexy, magic, universe.
02:44Um.
02:46Titillating.
02:48Yeah.
02:48Yeah, we'll do that, titillating.
02:51Oh, you very publicly shot your shot for Nightwing,
02:55which was extremely fun to watch.
02:57Have you been a DC fan?
02:59And what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you,
03:02especially the ones that say you have the face,
03:04the talent, and the butt?
03:05I will be completely honest.
03:07I, when I saw like some fan art of you as Nightwing,
03:11I was like blown away.
03:13Whoa.
03:14Like I, I mean, you never know
03:16if that's gonna come to fruition or not,
03:18but when I see like someone did you in the comic book style,
03:22I was like, I see it right away.
03:23Wow.
03:24Yeah, I would love to play him.
03:26I love DC.
03:28I love, I loved all like comic books
03:33that were true to the source material.
03:37And I think, you know, there are a lot of good filmmakers
03:41who like bring their own style to these, you know,
03:46beloved comics that I think it would be really great
03:48to work with them.
03:49You know, I'm not fully set on Nightwing.
03:51You know, I'm open to other things.
03:54Did you always want to be in like, did, is superheroes?
03:58No.
03:59Is that always something that's been like, I need to do that?
04:01Absolutely not.
04:02It's just, it's when really good filmmaker,
04:04it's filmmaker driven.
04:06So when like a guy like James Gunn or Matt Reeves,
04:10you know, comes to comics, it, I think that's what draws me.
04:13Um, and, and I heard James Gunn is doing the, the Teen Titans.
04:18I know there's, yeah, but yeah.
04:21James Gunn, he's in love with you.
04:23True or false.
04:24Hudson is more like Ilya in real life
04:26and Connor is more like Shane.
04:28I think me and you are both like Rose.
04:31Rose and I'm like Svetlana.
04:33I just said me and you are both like Rose.
04:36But I'm just, I'm just parting ways.
04:37That's so Svetlana for you to say.
04:40Um, I don't know.
04:42I mean, maybe I do feel like Ilya.
04:45I don't know.
04:46I think that, um, I, I'm, I'm too sensitive
04:49or outwardly sensitive or don't have a lot of shame
04:52around emotion to be Ilya.
04:54I could be a little cocky like Ilya.
04:56Yeah.
04:56But beyond that, it's like, I think Shane and Ilya
04:59sort of share us, you know, a soulfulness
05:03that's kind of buried under all these, you know,
05:06walls and kind of, um, uh, masks.
05:08But I think, I think underneath that,
05:11what we both relate with both of them is, you know,
05:14the, the heart and, and, and their soul.
05:17After wrapping Heated Rivalry,
05:19you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales.
05:21And if true, how did that happen?
05:24Um, I, did I have a reason
05:26for coming up to Vancouver?
05:27I just wanted to come see you.
05:29Yeah, come hang out.
05:29Am I not good enough?
05:30Come on.
05:31Yeah, I just, I don't know why for a second,
05:33I was like, I have something to do up there.
05:35I have nothing to do in Vancouver.
05:37I was there.
05:38So, yeah, I just went up to see, um,
05:41I just came up to see you.
05:43We knew we wanted to get matching tattoos.
05:44I hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever.
05:46Mm-hmm.
05:46Um, and we were just shuffling through ideas and, yeah.
05:50I think you came up with sex sales,
05:52but like we were both pitching ideas.
05:54And then one person would like them,
05:56the other person wouldn't.
05:57And then when you said sex sales, I was like, oh.
05:59We were sold.
06:00That's the first idea you've had, that's good.
06:01I think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well.
06:04So that feels good.
06:05The front of my shin, pull in here, zoom in.
06:10True or false, you ate a pound of beef,
06:13of ground beef a day while filming Heated Rivalry.
06:16True.
06:17Um, Connor told me what his routine was.
06:20And after I saw him in person,
06:21um, I asked him how he got to that size.
06:24I thought he was taking illicit substances.
06:27He wasn't.
06:27He does it super clean.
06:29Sorry I mentioned illicit substances.
06:31Um, but he-
06:33I have nothing to hide.
06:34Bring it on.
06:34But he was so-
06:37And just like-
06:39So I was like, what are you eating, freak?
06:42And I was like, I'm eating-
06:45And he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that.
06:48And I was like, I think that means ground beef.
06:50Um, and then-
06:51You're like, that level of capability is what I need.
06:54And then Connor was actually the person
06:55who put me onto fiber.
06:56Because if you need to eat the protein you want to get,
07:00you know, ilia cheeks, um, and chest,
07:03you need so much fiber just so your stomach
07:06doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac arrest
07:09and you get carried out from your,
07:11your little workout on a stretcher with some,
07:13you know, pumped up pecs and a shut down fucking-
07:16You look good.
07:17Digestive system.
07:18It's really unfortunate if it ends that way.
07:20Yeah.
07:20Yeah. I actually, um, I'm going to one up this true or false.
07:24I actually think that we ate more than a pound of beef.
07:26Yeah.
07:27Because a pound of beef only has,
07:28I think 84 grams of protein and you need a solid 200-
07:32You're going through-
07:34For our size and shape.
07:35So sometimes I can eat two pounds of ground beef a day.
07:38Plus like 10 eggs.
07:39Yeah.
07:40And so many salads.
07:41I was having so much salad.
07:42Because by the end I got like gained 10 pounds.
07:45So like when I started shooting, I was like,
07:47and by the end I was like 10 pounds heavier.
07:49And it was because of ground beef.
07:50Yeah. You, I mean, you're very inspiring.
07:52I'm glad that we had each other because it would have been really hard
07:55to be motivated if, you know, we were going back to our-
07:5812 hour days and then the gym.
07:59And then like going back to a residence, like alone, it's really,
08:02it's nice that I got to be like,
08:05Hi, son.
08:05Let's go to gym.
08:07And we would go from a fucking 11 hour day skating lesson
08:10and Connor would go, let's do legs.
08:13And I looked him, he's a madman.
08:15That's how he has a butt.
08:16He'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go,
08:20legs now?
08:21And I was like, what are you saying?
08:23Okay.
08:24I knew I had a responsibility to the people.
08:28He's America's ass.
08:30And I, I take that very seriously.
08:33Romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations.
08:36Did you feel any pressure bringing a beloved story to life?
08:39And how did you approach making the characters your own?
08:42It's good.
08:42I think to go into a project accepting that, you know,
08:47people might be disappointed, especially with something like a book
08:50where everyone already has preconceived notions.
08:52They've envisioned, they've envisioned these characters.
08:54They've drawn these characters.
08:56They've gotten tattoos of these characters.
08:58Like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed.
09:03All you can do is, is read the material as much as you possibly can.
09:09Yeah.
09:09And, um, and respect it, show the respect, show the dedication,
09:14and just hope that people, you know, connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm.
09:19I think we both had that level of, whether you want to call it nihilism or not,
09:23like people might just hate this.
09:25People might hate your casting or they might hate my casting.
09:28I'm not going to expect anything more.
09:31And, uh, I'm just going to do the best I can.
09:33But you have really no metric of if people are going to be warm to your, your take.
09:39I really think at the end of the day, all you can do is be really intentional.
09:43Give it 150%.
09:45Yeah.
09:46Just go for it, you know?
09:47And luckily for us, this worked out really freaking well.
09:55Hudson, we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step Korean skincare routine.
10:00Can you break it down for us?
10:01It's not that lengthy.
10:02Yeah.
10:02I always made fun of you for it too, because I like, honestly,
10:06I'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin.
10:09But I was like, yeah, your skin routine.
10:11And then it's actually not that long.
10:12It's not that long.
10:13It's okay.
10:14I'm going to tell you.
10:16In the morning, I use water to cleanse my face, warm water.
10:20And then I put on a glow toner, but it's pretty dry.
10:24It's not like, I don't like when people have like dewy, like if I see someone, it looks like
10:28they just wore a face mask.
10:29I'm like, why are you out right now?
10:31Like, go, go wipe that off and then come talk to me because I won't right now.
10:35And then, so my toner, and then I'll put on a serum and then sunscreen.
10:41And then sometimes instead of a serum, I put on a moisturizer.
10:44And then my PM routine is an oil cleanser, you know, to get out these blackheads, to get the gunk
10:50out.
10:51And then I'll either use like a CeraVe normal ass cleanser, or I'll use like a poor shrinking cleanser.
10:58That's their new, that's their new slogan, CeraVe normal ass cleanser.
11:04I think that is.
11:06I, yeah, I also like.
11:07And then like a poor shrink or a poor shrinking cleanser, if that's my goal.
11:11And then the same thing, toner, serum, and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid.
11:16And then I go to fucking sleep.
11:19So I think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot.
11:23Well, I will also say, I mean, it makes sense.
11:25You have flawless skin, so.
11:28And then when I take it off, it just falls apart.
11:30Yeah.
11:31He unhooks the, he unhooks the clip back here.
11:34The clip in the back.
11:35Keeps it all up.
11:36Connor.
11:37Yes.
11:38Story.
11:38Yes.
11:39Do you have a favorite spicy scene from Heated Rivalry and a favorite from Ember and Ice?
11:43What makes those stand out for you?
11:44My favorite spicy scene from Ember and Ice is actually a scene where Dane is with two former
11:51lovers, Cassandra and Elijah.
11:53Yep.
11:57I need you to, I need you to be here with me.
12:02Dane has an interaction with two of his former lovers after having been with Finn for some time.
12:11And yeah, not to spoil, but he ends up realizing that what really works for him isn't working for
12:19him anymore. And it's kind of this moment of identity loss and, you know, what, what pleases
12:25me isn't pleasing me the same. I think that's really cool. Cause it's also, it's, cause it's cool
12:29cause it's like sexy and spicy, but it also is really revealing of the character and the connection
12:34and where he's at, you know? Um, and I think it's funny. I think I remember Dane saying something
12:40about, um, he's like, he's like, and then the next thing I did was I just had to come up
12:44with a,
12:45an excuse. And then he's like, he's like, my friends, I have bad news.
12:50I have a lot from Ember and Ice, but one is the lake scene where we kind of
12:55go in together and you kind of coax it out of me without spoiling too much.
12:59Um, I think that one's just, you know, a lot of times like the intimacy before intimacy,
13:04I think it has more of a charge in a way. Uh, that one really got me, um, frothing at
13:10the mouth
13:11and heated rivalry, favorite intimate scene. There was one that was really fun to film. Do you
13:17remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing against the glass and our lips never
13:22come apart. Me and you were like, do people do this? Do people? I know it's always a fun balance,
13:27right? Of like, when you're filming, um, separate from like the audio space, when you're filming,
13:33it's like how much of it is fun TV and then how much of it is like, is like true
13:40sex. Cause at the
13:41end of the day, you know, you do have in real life, people do have those, those like movie moments
13:46where you're like, you know, you're like, yeah, yeah. And then everyone on set was like, oh yeah,
13:50no, we, I've done that. And then Connor and I were like, oh, oh, we usually fold our clothes,
13:56place them down. Then go upstairs naked and go sex now. Sex now. I'm robot. Plug me in. True
14:05or false. Hudson's roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them. Do you
14:11know? How many times? I know that you, I've, yeah, I remember this. Yep. It was true. It was one
14:17roommate.
14:17Um, and I, I mooned him 31 times. What was his reaction when you mooned him? Was he like,
14:26Hudson? Her poor name was Chelsea. I, I, I've talked with her and Chelsea has been like, you can say
14:32my
14:33name. And I was like, so I've since talked about this since. Double consent. Uh, double consent. Um,
14:38and, uh, poor Chelsea would just go, I think her main reaction was like, oh, Hudson. Uh,
14:47and it made me so happy. Where, where is Chelsea now? And I, I developed different techniques over
14:54the years. Um, she's chilling. She's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls. Um, but I would
15:00go and I would do like a drive by at all these different techniques. And then she would bring like
15:04other, you know, um, romantic interests home. And then they're like, what's this tally up on the
15:09board? And they're like, oh, that's how many times Hudson, my roommate has mooned me. And they were
15:14like, would you just like kind of butt crack it or would you fold? So I had one where I
15:18would get
15:20pants low, like I would D pants and she would be unassuming, like maybe on her phone on the couch.
15:25And I would run by and jump in the air. So I was like, uh, like, like a, like a
15:31literal moon,
15:32a literal moon, but in fast motion. Sometimes I would just do the like, oh,
15:36drop something before we leave. Bend and I'm right there. Gotcha. Oh God.
15:42Yes. No, they, they got very athletic. But we need to clarify,
15:46if you were going to moon someone, make it a close friend. Chelsea is still my close friend.
15:51Make it known that this is okay. Yep. She got a hood out of it. Do not moon people you
15:56don't know
15:57in places. It's not okay. Hudson, as an Asian actor leading such a hugely popular queer romance,
16:04what kind of stories or roles are you excited for more people to see you in going forward?
16:08Hmm. Yeah. I, I want to, I want to represent my, my Waysians out there. You know, um, I've been
16:17declared, do you know about this? I'm declared the, I think princess or prince of Waysia. Me.
16:26I mean, I, I sign off on it. Okay. I think you, he's the final stamp off guy for this.
16:31So, uh,
16:32yeah, I'm the, I'm the ambassador of Waysia as a fully, as a completely Caucasian.
16:38Yes. But, uh, as, as, uh, this, um, little Waysian I am, I hope to just do roles that aren't
16:48always
16:48charged with, you know, I'm happy to do roles that are, you know, race has something to, to play in
16:54there, but also I just want to be an actor. And a lot of the times I just want to
16:58play parts where it's
16:59like, I'm, I'm just there and we don't need to go in my backstory or whatever. It's just,
17:05you know, I'm playing with any other, uh, non person of color would play as well.
17:11Yeah. You're a person. You want to be treated?
17:13I'm a person of it, baby on both heated rivalry and Ember and ice, you worked with an intimacy
17:19coordinator. Um, why do you think that role matters on projects like this? Was there anything about the
17:24process that you think would surprise people? Wow. I mean, I think it's so, um,
17:30yeah, that's a, yeah, that question is, I mean, it's so important. I mean,
17:35you, you literally can't do things without that role. Um, the thing that I think would shock people
17:42about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about, and this is what I learned from
17:48Shayla originally, and then also Jamie doing this. It's not just about the actual safety,
17:54the boundaries, monitoring what's going on, what that looks like, making sure everyone's okay.
17:59There's also actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like Jamie with this, you know,
18:07was also the voice that was reminding us, this is how long it's been since this happened. You know,
18:12you need to, I need to hear that shiver or that I need to hear those, um, I need to
18:18hear that
18:19feeling through your wings. I need to see that come about. I need to feel that pleasure in this way.
18:25So it's not always technical, even though that's what I feel like is brought up a lot. There is also
18:29an artistic sensibility to that job and that really promotes that conversation. Absolutely.
18:35Bring in the first ginger ale. This is so fun. We have Canada Dry, we have Schweppes, we have,
18:43can you, can someone give me a rundown of the brands? No, you're going to try it and we're
18:47going to go. I don't, I've only named two from memory. Well, how about this? I'll hold it so we
18:51don't, we don't give away anything. Yeah, it's only going to have flavors, so you describe the flavor
18:55and the texture for it. Yep, that's my Hudson. That's my Hudson.
19:03That's not Canada Dry. This is some shitty American ginger ale. This is like Schweppes,
19:09or like, um, yeah, that's my guess. You said it's not Canada Dry. Why is it not Canada Dry?
19:16Yeah. Canada Dry's got more ginger in it and more bubble in it. It's just subtle ginger.
19:21Yeah. Go ahead and should we be blindfolded?
19:24Go ahead and should we be blindfolded?
19:27You got, we got you. Where is this imported from? This, this is, this is, no, no way.
19:37It says, it says from Frisco, Texas. Nope.
19:40Frisco, Texas, baby. I don't, I don't, this is, it changed, it changed.
19:44Bring in ginger ale number two. That is so embarrassing.
19:50Thank you so much. This one was, that one was Canada Dry. What is this one?
19:57I'm good. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you're my baby. Drink more.
20:05This is cough syrup. This is, this is yellow snow. What is this?
20:12A pissy pineapple. But that's the brand, Hudson. I have to guess the brand?
20:20Davai, yeah. This is Schweppes. Okay. This one is Schweppes.
20:24Schweppes. That's also Canada Dry.
20:30I am so happy that I'm not the one tasting these because if I was getting them wrong,
20:34I'd feel like an idiot. No, I'm kidding.
20:39Stupid. Stupid. No, you're not. I mean, they, they really set you up.
20:44Give me another one. Do you have more? Bring me, bring in, how many more?
20:49Bring in the last one. Bring it to me.
20:53Ooh, this one's a hard one. Thank you.
20:59Oh, no.
21:09That's, um, that's Fevertree Ginger, um, um, beer.
21:16Hudson?
21:18What?
21:19What flavor?
21:20What? There's a, there's a secondary flavor.
21:25Do you want a smell test too? You want to do like a...
21:28No, it's just ginger. No, but do like an aromatics test.
21:34Go full Somme vibes.
21:37Do you smell that?
21:39Oh, it's hard to, it's hard to smell.
21:41It's fucking ginger, pear?
21:43Fucking, it's ginger.
21:44Yeah, I'm going to be honest.
21:45He would never be able to understand.
21:47You can't taste that flavor at all.
21:51What? Blood orange?
21:52Good job. You can't taste that at all.
21:54You put food coloring in.
21:56You didn't put no blood orange in there.
21:57I will say, I kind of like this one though.
21:59That one's, that one's nice.
22:01I like all of them.
22:02But I guess the brand, did I not?
22:03You killed it.
22:05When did you first realize you clicked?
22:07And what are some of your favorite memories from working together?
22:12I would say our first FaceTime outside of a chemistry read,
22:15because at that point I was always Shane, he was always Ilya.
22:18But then when we first met over FaceTime before we went to Toronto,
22:24we had so many, like so much overlap of movies we liked, actors we liked, art we liked,
22:31and similar approaches to how we, you know, like to perform that I immediately knew.
22:37I think we clicked there.
22:38And I think that's saying a lot, because I think some of our,
22:40our interests can be pretty niche.
22:43The fact that there is overlap is amazing.
22:45Yeah.
22:45Yeah.
22:46And favorite memories, I would say all our laughs on set.
22:51Being in Muskoka, um, was really beautiful.
22:54There was a lot of like lounging around, um, you know, it was just great.
22:59My favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs.
23:03What's, what's like an inside joke that we just died over the whole time?
23:07Um, we had a storm the set.
23:10That was also with me.
23:11Oh yeah.
23:12I would always be like,
23:13STORM THE SET!
23:15But if we couldn't afford extras, our idea was we would just like,
23:18do like a cattle call.
23:20We used to joke that like we, um, because we would have like airport scenes and stuff,
23:24where there would be like, you know,
23:26five people, you know, for an airport you need like a bunch of people and we'd have like five people.
23:29And I just imagined, um, I imagined Jacob being like, being like, Costo, get up there.
23:36And everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like, STORM THE SET!
23:40Opening the garage and just like opening it up to the public.
23:44How does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement?
23:49I can't, I honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this, you know?
23:55Like, I think I look a little too shabby.
23:58I'm, I'm in the process of gaining weight right now.
24:00Yeah, I was, when you look, you look freaking fantastic.
24:03Well, bring it back to my Spanish.
24:05Muchos gracias.
24:06De nada, corazón de melón.
24:08Ah, mi hermoso.
24:10Um, yeah, I, people, people like our bodies.
24:17Let's just be honest about it.
24:18People, you know, I care about my health.
24:21I care about my fitness.
24:22As do you.
24:23Um, honestly, watching the show is making us work out even more.
24:28Yeah.
24:29So what drew you to doing a Fey Romantisi story?
24:31And what was it about the script that hooked you?
24:34For me, it was exploring sensuality with, with your voice.
24:38You know, that's the only tool you have.
24:41And it kind of scared me a little bit.
24:43And, you know, there, there, it was a really fun way to explore yourself.
24:47It was fun.
24:48It was actually fun.
24:49And, you know, it's very demanding and it's, it's well written.
24:52I think in the booth, the term winged Hemingway came up, you know, fantastical Hemingway.
25:01Because there was like war, there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed,
25:08uh, in a lot of ways.
25:10And that was way heavier than I thought, you know, this would look like.
25:15And it was really rewarding.
25:17The story just moves really well too.
25:20Um, it was just written really well.
25:22Uh, as someone who, you know, is not a big reader, I think something like this would be
25:28really appealing to me.
25:29Um, just the way it, it cycles through the feelings, it cycles through the years.
25:34And point of view.
25:36Yeah.
25:36Yeah.
25:36I just think it's really like almost physically well done.
25:39Why do you think MM romance resonates so strongly with women right now?
25:46Yeah, we've, we've, we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it.
25:49Um, there's so many reasons.
25:51There's so many reasons.
25:52And then even just women, you know, there are straight women, there are trans women,
25:57there are, um, gay women, like queer women.
25:59It's, it's, um, well, that feels like a giant term to be like, I know exactly why.
26:06Um, you know, there's like the element of you can live vicariously and you can feel safe.
26:10Um, like with women, this is just one opinion that I had never even considered or thought of,
26:16um, that I saw that I think you're alluding to, which is if you are female, um, and you are,
26:25you are taken out of the equation, there's, and you're, you're, there's a spectatorship to that.
26:31There's like a, there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety, you know,
26:37like, especially women, um, historically being put into a box in a certain way, especially when
26:42it comes to sex and pleasure, it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived
26:48out without, um, female dynamic being.
26:52Yeah. I, I heard, I heard someone online say, a woman say that like, when you see like a hetero,
26:57um, couple, you know, you default to like relating with, or forced to sort of relate with the woman
27:04character. Um, and then that comes with a lot of restriction and too, and like imagination,
27:08a lot of writers, you know, are writing very conventionally, um, which means a lot of
27:14outdated tropes, um, old archetypes. And I think, you know, with getting to watch two men,
27:19it's like, they can kind of relate with this person. In one moment, they're empathetic to this
27:23person. They're not forced into a box of here. This is your person to relate with.
27:27At the end of the day though, we're both men. I have no idea what it's like to be a
27:31woman.
27:32Um, yeah. And so y'all let us know. Yeah. Y'all tell us.
27:37I think me, cause I would just be, I'd be drinking. I'd be somewhere. I'd be like under a table,
27:45asleep, naked. But I will say you, you're really fricking athletic and you're really strong
27:52and you know how to fight. So if it came down to like a wrestling match between you and
27:57Freddy Krueger, I think you're taking the cake, my boy. I'm winning.
28:04Okay. Snack time. Me, 100%.
28:10Yeah. You have a little, you have a tiny bit more reverence than I do. Um,
28:14if something is overly serious, I cannot help but laugh.
28:18Cause I just become really like, oh, I become really aware of how. Do the kind of.
28:26You left and now, now I'm going to leave.
28:29Connor will do the, like the, like, it's like so serious. He kind of gets a little
28:33take. And then he goes, and I can't do his laugh. Do I do that? Do I do. And then
28:37he goes.
28:38Do I do a Polly pocket hand?
28:42That's Connor. I accept myself. This is what we're rocking this.
28:45We're rocking it. I accept myself.
28:48Me. Oh yeah. I'm, I'm dirty. You're like, you're pretty clean.
28:52I'd eat anything off the ground. No.
28:57Not me. I'm online more than I am. Yeah. I, well, I just love YouTube. I love the little, like,
29:03video essay on this movie. Essay on this little actor. Have you learned this about Genghis Khan?
29:09And I'm like, wow. There's so much to know. Nerd.
29:12Are these book talk trivia things? Yeah.
29:15H E A. Heaven eats ass. I don't know. Yeah. Heaven eats ass. Is that it?
29:20Really? What is it?
29:24Fuck. Yeah. Okay.
29:28Okay. This one's ordered. The rake and the cake. The what?
29:32The rake and the cake. Well, you break up some, some people together and then you ass.
29:39Yeah. Are these all going to be ass related?
29:43They are for me.
29:45The grumpy sunshine trip. Like the rake and the cake. Like. Oh, right, right, right, right.
29:50Oh, I see. Oh, I like, I like that. I like those. I like those ones. Yeah. I like the
29:54grump.
29:54Why tubes? Why? Is this a love triangle thing?
29:59Mmm. Ooh. Threesome.
30:02Foot in both jars of peanut butter, if you know what I mean.
30:05Don't make me nervous on Twitter. We're going to react to some tweets.
30:08You don't scare me. Connor's story. You need to stop. Your face too smiley.
30:12Your ass too fat. Juicy. Your line delivery too good. They'll kill you.
30:16You really, I mean, you ended up. Line delivery too good.
30:19Yeah. You, I, I'm, I'm cool with that. I feel good. Um, I, I, whenever we read tweets,
30:25I don't know if I'm supposed to like, thank you or if I'm supposed to like,
30:29Yeah. Genuinely be like, whoa. I guess all of it, kind of.
30:34Hudson Williams' back dimples. That's it. That's the tweet.
30:38Oh. I didn't realize I had these little back dimples, but then I, I saw the receipts and I saw
30:45my
30:47dimpled cheek back thing. And, uh, we were all singing it.
30:51Yeah. I was, I was seeing it.
30:53Damn. For real.
30:54Mmm. I love whatever is wrong with y'all.
30:59My Cynthia and Ariana.
31:03Ahh. Fine. I'm invested in heated rivalry. Not because of their giant,
31:08bouncy . But because it's a true yearner. I'm a sucker for a good romance.
31:13The yearning is, is the thing. I think that's- that's probably the sexiest part for people,
31:18honestly. Yeah. You wanna know how we got these bodies to yearn?
31:20If you yearn enough, your ass gets fat.
31:23Despite all the memes, I have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy isn't just spice on top of the romance,
31:30but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics and character and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things.
31:37Jacob talks about this and that was one of the first things I think he brought to us to try
31:44and explain his vision, which was, you know, when you read the scripts, when you read the pages, it can
31:49sound very sex heavy, but to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how
31:56they connect.
31:58Yeah, I think that is, I think that's kind of, you know.
32:01For the first years of their life, that's how they communicate.
32:04That's where their relationship builds and, you know.
32:07That's not usually how sex is used in media.
32:10Yep.
32:11Meteor.
32:12I need Hudson Williams to know that so many people imagine, draw, write, and read about him getting pregnant, including
32:20me.
32:21Is that crazy?
32:22Oh, he knows and even comments on it.
32:23Yeah, Mara.
32:24He had a rivalry update.
32:25He's pointing this out to me.
32:26I know.
32:26When I learned that about the fan fiction, I was like, whatever floats your boat, you know.
32:32Yeah, I mean, I think that's like, I think that's in the deep fanfic side.
32:36Yeah.
32:37I don't understand it, but I'm like, you know what, you freaks?
32:41You gung-ho, you go get it.
32:43You know, if you can go get fictional me pregnant.
32:46Fictional me.
32:48Knock him up.
32:50This is another one about my butt.
32:52Again, y'all aren't ready for this one.
32:55Connor's story deserves A-O-T-Y.
32:57What's A-O-T-Y mean?
32:59Connor's story, ass of the...
33:01I don't like this tweet.
33:02It should be ass of the century.
33:04Hey, whoa, whoa!
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