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06:57il suo figlio, il suo figlio, il suo figlio, il suo figlio, il suo figlio, il suo figlio,
07:02il suo figlio in un po' giorni, per gli americani.
07:05Il suo figlio, il suo figlio, il suo figlio,
07:10se gli americani non hanno la scuola,
07:13il suo figlio, per il suo figlio,
07:17e il suo figlio è veramente molto vulnerabile.
07:21Of course, e c'è una questione di sicurezza per questo individuo,
07:24ma ho dovuto chiedere le europei,
07:26dove c'è Europa in questa crisi?
07:29Il fatto che ho dovuto chiedere, c'è molto.
07:30Quando ero insegnare la relazione internazionale in Paris,
07:34ho sempre detto che se avete una questione di europei,
07:37la prima frase che devi usare è che le europei sono divideri.
07:42Siamo, in definizione, divideri,
07:44perché abbiamo diversi powers, diversi geografi, diversi stori.
07:50Ovviamente, c'è, per esempio,
07:52che Germania sta sticchendo con gli USA
07:55e sticchendo con l'Israele.
07:57È veramente ovviamente.
07:59Molto europei,
08:00io diria,
08:01sono cercano di hidegare themselves.
08:03che non vogliono essere chiedere
08:05tra gli americani e l'Israele
08:12o l'Irania.
08:13e l'Israele.
08:14Quindi,
08:15molti europei,
08:16sono andati in questo modo
08:18e aspettando per l'ultimo
08:19della crisi.
08:21Abbiamo alcuni dei cittadini che sono più attivi.
08:24Spano,
08:25Spano,
08:26spano,
08:26spano,
08:27spano,
08:27spano,
08:28spano,
08:29spano,
08:30spano,
08:31spano,
08:32spano,
08:33spano,
08:34spano,
08:35spano,
08:35spano,
08:36spano,
08:37spano,
08:41spano,
08:42spano,
08:46spano,
08:50spano.
08:51spano.
08:53really have rejoined the Spaniards.
08:56And now, one by one, the European countries are really assessing that the operation is in a dead end
09:05and also assessing that their public opinion is more and more moved by the suffering of the civilian population in
09:15Iran, but also in Lebanon.
09:16And if I may, just lastly, of course, the one woman who seems to want to be very active is
09:23the head of the European Commission.
09:24Are you surprised by the role that the head of the Commission is playing and wants to play?
09:28Is she in the wrong or ultimately is she a smart operator?
09:31I am a bit, you know, really, I'm a bit surprised because she's out of her competence.
09:36You know, the treaty, the European treaty, which is the basis of the European Union, doesn't give her any special
09:45competence in foreign policy.
09:48On the top of that, she's she's sticking to a line which, again, it's not the line of Spain.
09:54It's not the line of France. It's a German line, really.
10:00So, especially which is more important, in a sense, than the treaties, is the fact that the Europeans are the
10:09last flag bearer of international law.
10:12Really, it's, I should say, the DNA of the European Union is the international law.
10:20And to hear the president of the European Commission saying that really it's not that important, the way the Germans
10:29actually are saying what the Germans are saying.
10:33Frankly, you can really you can ask a lot of questions about that.
10:38Yes, I think there is a division in the European Union, not at a very bad moment.
10:45But again, as I've told you, with the Europeans, they are always divided.
10:49But on this point, just very briefly, what she did say is that the EU stands for international law, but
10:54it cannot be the custodian of a world that no longer exists.
10:58Does she have a point or is she in the wrong? Is this the wrong time to make that statement?
11:02You know, frankly, to be for, it's a bit like somebody who is, well, it's very French, somebody who is
11:10in the middle of adultery and is going and is saying, oh, actually, I am in favor of the principle
11:17of marital fidelity while committing adultery.
11:23It's not the international law. It's not only a principle, you know, really coming from heaven, but it's a policy.
11:32And which means that it should have consequences.
11:37And and we should, the Europeans really, in a sense, saying we have to react to react against Israel and
11:47against the U.S.
11:48Well, Ambassador, thank you so much on the geopolitics and marriage, too.
11:52Thank you for joining us. Always great to see you.
11:54Thank you. A pleasure.
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