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00:00An 18-year-old Greenlandic woman lost custody of her baby an hour after giving birth.
00:06because she failed a parenting skills test in Denmark.
00:12Also in Denmark, a Brazilian woman who also failed this parenting test,
00:18Among other factors, she recently managed to regain custody of her son after a 5-year struggle.
00:26A 15-year-old girl sends a letter to the Swiss court pleading with them to allow her to return to live there.
00:35with his Brazilian mother.
00:37These cases are interconnected, and an understanding of international law is necessary, particularly Article 28 of the Convention.
00:46of Aya.
00:47Before we talk about the convention, how it's applied, and why Aya's mothers became known,
00:55Let's talk about those cases from the beginning of the video and see what it means to have a child abroad, within the country.
01:02a foreign marriage,
01:04It can be quite complicated, especially if you are not familiar with the laws of that country.
01:13But, right now, I ask that you stay tuned to this video, because the case of the 15-year-old girl is...
01:20very delicate.
01:21Let's begin by learning about the case of Ivana Nicolini, a young woman from Greenland.
01:27which was the reason why I decided to address today's topic.
01:32I'll bring you the article from the Metrópolis newspaper, which covers this case in more detail.
01:38On August 11th, Ivana Nicolini gave birth to her daughter.
01:42An hour after the birth, the city government, responsible for the region, removed the child from her care.
01:48Since then, Ivana has only been able to see her daughter for one hour at a time, without being able to comfort her or even change her diaper.
01:56of his own daughter.
01:58According to information from The Guardian newspaper, the authorities justified the separation based on the results of a psychometric test.
02:08known as FKU.
02:10In short, that was Ivana's case, but then I got curious, guys.
02:16I looked into this test, keeping in mind that it's linked to another case involving a Brazilian woman, which I will discuss later.
02:23I'll be back with you in a little while.
02:24Basically, the FKU is a set of standard psychometric tests used in child protection services in Denmark.
02:36to assess the parenting skills of prospective parents.
02:40They involve psychological assessments conducted by professionals, with the aim of identifying potential difficulties and support needs related to parenting.
02:52It's like taking the ENEM exam, but what if you passed and earned the right to care for the child?
02:56That's more or less it. It's like a child protection agency or social services, but in a very strict way.
03:04However, I discovered that this type of test, for people like Ivana, who is from Greenland, was no longer...
03:12It is no longer permitted to take this test.
03:15Because they were heavily criticized by human rights activists for being culturally insensitive to Inuit customs and language.
03:28Greenland.
03:29Such stereotypical assessments often resulted in negative, unfair evaluations, leading to the removal of children.
03:40What does that mean? They were like, social assistance workers were arriving there for the mothers in Greenland, and they were asking a series of questions.
03:49I'm going to bring to you two types of questions that they used to ask.
03:53And as a basis for their responses, they expected the mothers to answer according to Danish culture.
04:02But they generally responded based on their Greenlandic culture.
04:10And that already stood out as a negative point.
04:14So, adding up all these negative points, you're not fit to raise your children.
04:20Let me give you an example.
04:23Look, they would arrive there and ask like this:
04:25Your baby cries during the night.
04:27You need to work early the next day.
04:30What do you do?
04:31The social worker then expected the response, in accordance with Danish culture, to be...
04:38Stay calm and apply Danish sleep routine techniques.
04:44However, in Greenlandic culture, it is common for the mother to lie down with the baby and soothe it.
04:51And this, in Danish culture, is seen as an incentive to create excessive dependency.
05:00So, they don't approve of that kind of behavior.
05:04Wow, there are so many Brazilians here who sleep with the child, you know?
05:07Don't worry, we'll get there.
05:09Another issue here was which discipline method was most effective for a 3-year-old child.
05:16The response they were expecting would be the "time out" technique, which is a structured dialogue, and positive parenting techniques.
05:25However, in Inuit families, discipline can be more oral and communal, with stories and examples of behavior.
05:34And for Denmark, this is interpreted as a lack of authority.
05:39So, all these sets of responses could lead them to remove these children and place them in a Danish family.
05:47It was banned this year, however, it seems that in the region where Ivana gave birth to her baby, somewhat
05:55that they covered their eyes.
05:57However, this FKU test, it wasn't completely banned.
06:04It remains valid in other situations as well.
06:08And that's when I discovered that many women are caught in this situation of losing custody of their children.
06:19Because it continues to be applied to families with no connection to Greenland, including Danish families and immigrants from other countries.
06:30nationalities.
06:31They administer this test when there is suspicion of parental incompetence, or when there is a risk to the child.
06:40when substance abuse, domestic violence, and other relevant factors are present.
06:48It was during these searches, out of curiosity about this test, that I met Raquel Duvale.
06:57A Brazilian woman who is in Denmark fighting for custody of her son.
07:03The channel "Surviving in Türkiye," by Dani Bongione, details the case of Raquel Duvale.
07:10and also many other cases of women in situations similar to what I'm going to talk about here.
07:16But, to briefly summarize Raquel's case, I'm going to show Fernanda's video.
07:24Brazilian Raquel Duvale, 35, lost custody of her 4-year-old son to her Danish ex-husband.
07:30who is imprisoned in Denmark for threatening public officials.
07:34The dreaded and infamous Barnevernet, pardon me if I'm pronouncing it wrong,
07:39The Danish Child Protection Council deemed it best to place the minor for adoption with a Danish family.
07:46instead of handing it over to the Brazilian mother who has a good income and a stable home.
07:52Barnevernet has already been sued in the European Court of Human Rights by other members of the European Union.
07:59for removing parental rights from foreigners under unclear circumstances.
08:05Raquel had already reported her husband for domestic violence several times.
08:10He is a person addicted to illicit substances.
08:14He constantly pursued and threatened to take the lives of Raquel and her son.
08:19He's a good person, isn't he?
08:20Oh my, oh my.
08:21One thing that impressed me there is that David Zastrow is on par with what we have in Europe, right?
08:25It seems that this type of problem doesn't exist.
08:27How strange is the situation at the Guardianship Center there?
08:29One of the things I saw most in the comments was that this type of behavioral pattern is common in
08:41European men.
08:42Of course, we're not going to generalize, are we?
08:47But this behavior is not very uncommon.
08:52From an aggressive man?
08:53It's not aggressive, it's perhaps problematic.
08:56He was saying this to the city hall employees themselves, and was only arrested when he threatened them.
09:05Before being arrested, Raquel was forced to leave the house she had rented in her name and
09:10Go to a shelter with your son.
09:12They kept changing shelters because they said he had discovered where they were and that it could be dangerous.
09:18During that time, Raquel was subjected to various types of tests to see if she was fit to create the
09:25son.
09:25This test is F.K.O.
09:27But apparently, he didn't do the same to Ivana, right?
09:29Like, an hour after the fourth one was later.
09:32Because she was already in that situation with her husband, but they administered the test to her, not to him.
09:40In fact, she had to go live with her son in the home of a Danish family so that this family could help her.
09:46to assess whether she was fit to be a mother.
09:49At that time, even with all the circumstances, with all the persecution, the father visited his son.
09:56And Raquel still had to hear things like, "But what clothes do you wear to receive him when he..."
10:01Go get the...
10:02These were the questions they asked her in the test.
10:05But are you always like this, always well-groomed, always wearing makeup?
10:08Why does he keep chasing you?
10:10Why?
10:10Why is this man so obsessed with chasing after you?
10:14As if it were her fault that she was being persecuted.
10:17After this citizen was arrested, the judge even called Raquel's lawyer, informing him that she thought it best to let it go.
10:24custody with the father.
10:26Because the father has custody, and he is in prison and unable to care for his son, who would be responsible for taking care of him?
10:31The son would be the municipality.
10:34In other words, deliver it to a Danish family. Why?
10:37Because Raquel is Brazilian, the judge was afraid she would return to Brazil with the child.
10:43Completely ignoring the fact that this child is also Brazilian.
10:48And that's what happened.
10:50The boy was given to a Danish family.
10:52Raquel has the right to visit the boy once a month.
10:56The boy is, obviously, completely distraught, because all he wants is to be with his mother.
11:01The boy had his birthday a few days ago.
11:04And Raquel was not granted the right to spend her son's birthday with her.
11:08Even though the boy said his greatest wish was to spend his birthday with his mother, it wasn't to be.
11:15Allowed.
11:15But yesterday Raquel posted on her Instagram that she managed to reverse this absurdity and that she has custody.
11:23The lawyer, thank God, managed to reverse it and they gave custody to Raquel.
11:28However, the boy is not with her yet.
11:30He remains at the Danish family's home.
11:33And now Raquel continues to fight to get that boy to come back and live with her.
11:39She has a few more hearings coming up.
11:41And if God wills it, everything will be alright.
11:43This is a clear case of xenophobia.
11:46Exactly, just like that.
11:47It's not too far removed from Ivana's case.
11:50That's the kind of thing you do.
11:51To view the child as property of the State, of the country.
11:56I have here the outcome of Raquel's case.
11:59Which was published by the Public Prosecutor's Office of the State of Mato Grosso.
12:04I'll read it to you.
12:06The drama of Brazilian Raquel Bezerra do Vale, 35, who even lost custody of her son Atos,
12:144 years old,
12:15For the Danish government, it may have a new ending.
12:19The Scandinavian country's justice system reversed the family court's decision and granted sole custody of the child to...
12:29The mother.
12:29Even with custody of the child granted by the high court of Denmark,
12:34Raquel is still awaiting the scheduling of a new court hearing to formalize Atos' return to daily contact.
12:43If I'm not mistaken, I think that hearing is about to happen sometime in the next few days, still this month.
12:50Currently, the Brazilian woman has the right to visit her son once a month.
12:57For only 3 hours, since he was put up for adoption.
13:02The child is under the guardianship of a Danish family.
13:06The expectation is that, within the next few months, the Danish courts will allow Atos to return to live with his wife.
13:15mother.
13:15Allow it as if the mother had done something.
13:17During this period, the pro-victim group will continue to monitor the case and press local authorities.
13:25so that Raquel's rights are fully guaranteed.
13:30Oh my God, what right do they have to do that? Wasn't the woman mistreating the child?
13:35The video we're about to watch is of a Danish woman, Fefe, and in this video she says...
13:42This is a very common practice in Denmark towards many foreign women, especially Brazilian women.
13:52I am Danish with ties to Brazil, and I'm here to share something horrible.
13:58What is happening in Denmark against Brazilian women?
14:00And Raquel is not the only one. Over the past few days I have spoken with several Brazilian women.
14:07who have experienced the same situation. In some of these situations, the Danish male aggressor has custody of the child,
14:15Even though he had several problems with the police, even though he was violent, he now has custody and the woman doesn't.
14:22has more access.
14:23Even a Danish woman is speaking out about the behavior of a Danish man.
14:30In other cases, the child was placed with a completely unknown family.
14:35Lately, Denmark has been receiving criticism for removing children from Greenlandic families for xenophobic reasons.
14:44There were many other cases. I saw a video of another Greenlandic woman on TikTok.
14:53So, I thought about bringing it, but the video is too powerful.
14:59I think it was her second or third child, whom Denmark took away, two hours after the birth.
15:05And it's heartbreaking. So, it's a very inhumane practice, honestly.
15:14I have no other words to describe this.
15:17Brazilian women report feeling judged a lot for being too emotional.
15:22And I was told that when they expressed emotions, it was used against them in the process.
15:29We all know that a child should only be taken away from their mother in extremely dangerous situations.
15:38But it seems that Denmark, in these cases, is basing its decisions on xenophobia and ignorance about other cultures and
15:47How do they work?
15:48And they are leaving these Brazilian mothers without support, without them knowing their rights, and without their children.
15:58Of course, there are comments on Fefe's video, like those good Samaritans, right?
16:05Speaking is good for them to learn.
16:07Foreign lunchboxes in Brazil, they humiliate themselves.
16:11Why bother, right? How unnecessary.
16:14There's another comment here saying, Norway is also the same as Denmark.
16:19My friend also lost custody of her son to her Dutch ex-husband.
16:24Later on, we'll see a video of a Brazilian woman who is in the Netherlands, and her situation is also...
16:31It's one of the best.
16:33Portugal, Germany, and France are no different.
16:38I'm going to show you a video of Andrea now; she's married to a Frenchman.
16:43And in her video, she explains everything that can happen when you have a child within a marriage.
16:52outside the country.
16:54If many women knew the mess that having a child with a foreigner entails, they would think very carefully before having one.
17:00Friends, I may look like a silly girl, but I'm not silly, guys.
17:03I am very intelligent, I am very clever.
17:05I created my own financial stability.
17:06I have a disconnect with my husband in this social and financial matter.
17:12So, I'm in a healthy relationship.
17:15This is important to point out because, at least in cases that make it to the media,
17:20of Brazilian women who lost custody of their children because of this,
17:24These are people who are aware of situations of abuse, right?
17:26They fled to Brazil in desperation and, unfortunately, the law doesn't have a "part B," you know?
17:33There are many Brazilian women who live abroad, are divorced, and are doing really well with it, you know?
17:38So, I understand the fuss, okay?
17:41And it's important for us to understand and study the law.
17:44So, I know exactly which law this is based on, from A to Z.
17:47So, I understand and know what I can and cannot do.
17:52But, my friends, contrary to what many people think,
17:55The baby being born in Brazil doesn't protect me from absolutely anything.
17:59Because our residence is in France and will continue to be in France.
18:04So, what will matter to the law is the child's place of residence.
18:07Okay, so the child was born, I don't know, in Brazil?
18:10Okay, but the child, she's in France, she lives in France.
18:13She has an address in France, she studies in France.
18:16So, what really matters is the environment in which the child is immersed.
18:20and not the birth environment.
18:22Because, if that were the case, it would be easy, you know?
18:25But that's not how it works.
18:27That's why I'm telling you this, that's why it's important to study the law.
18:30Because I know there are people who think that way, you know?
18:33So basically, in the case of divorce, it is very difficult for a Brazilian woman...
18:37that has approval, like, that the father agrees to this woman taking the child to Brazil, for example.
18:46It is difficult.
18:46And it's understandable, because he's a father too.
18:49So, like, the child going to another continent,
18:52The visit, you know, was going to be much more difficult.
18:55So, like this...
18:56And that's one of the things I noticed.
18:59It seems that Brazil is one of the few countries where, in most cases,
19:06In cases of divorce, the mother gets custody of the child.
19:13In other countries, it seems that this doesn't happen.
19:16And so, it's kind of culturally accepted.
19:20Normal.
19:21I am not, therefore, generalizing.
19:23But it seems that it's already structurally normal for them.
19:29Keep in mind that, here in Brazil, for example,
19:32even if custody remains with the mother,
19:34This does not mean that she has complete freedom to come and go with a child.
19:39For example, if she wants to change states,
19:43If she wants to leave the country and the child is a minor,
19:48She needs her father's permission.
19:51Now, imagine what it would be like if this were happening in a foreign country.
19:57So, that's why it's so important to know where you are.
20:03Because if here, within our national territory,
20:07It can already cause a headache.
20:09Imagine a place that most likely won't favor women.
20:15and even less so to favor a foreign woman.
20:19But, as I said, unfortunately there are many women who are in that situation.
20:23who flee to Brazil in desperation.
20:25But it's really necessary to have the father's permission, you know?
20:29To take the child away, to remove the child from the territory where she is located, right?
20:35Whether in Brazil or anywhere else.
20:38This applies to both mothers and fathers, folks.
20:40For both of them.
20:42For both of them.
20:43But, unfortunately, it happens more often to women precisely for that reason.
20:46that we are more vulnerable to experiencing situations of...
20:48And that's basically it, folks.
20:50Then I separated some comments from Andrea's video.
20:53so that we can react together here.
20:55That's exactly what you said.
20:57Study the law, seek financial and social stability, and learn the language.
21:02I think that's fundamental in any situation.
21:06Regardless of the reason you are thinking of going to another country,
21:13This is how it is, this is the basics.
21:16My cousin was completely convinced of this, she had a wonderful husband,
21:20A couple that nobody imagined would separate, and they did separate.
21:24Today she is experiencing the greatest anguish of her life in Germany.
21:29She dreams of returning to Brazil but can't.
21:31Because the ex-husband is threatening to take custody of their two daughters.
21:35She's not coming back because of that.
21:38And today, she has to work precarious jobs to survive as a lawyer.
21:43Ultimately, nobody knows anybody and nobody knows what tomorrow will bring.
21:46Unfortunately, it's something no one can predict.
21:50No, just different again, right?
21:51Because many people, at least that I know,
21:54Imagine moving to another country, changing your life, and everything else.
21:58Look, honey, she's in Germany and wants to go back to Brazil.
22:01It's also one of the things I've read a lot about.
22:04saying that there is no better place than Brazil,
22:07because in other countries it's very strict,
22:11It's all very controlled, cold.
22:14This is the law for everything.
22:16And the laws must be followed.
22:19But then again, I'm not sure if it's also a matter of lack of adaptation.
22:23or if it's due to lack of habit,
22:26But I just don't understand why people are always thinking...
22:31that every marriage can end in divorce.
22:34That's not the case, that's not the intention.
22:37Well, I, at least, share the view that
22:41No one gets married thinking about divorce.
22:45But sometimes it happens.
22:48And then, it's a tremendous amount of bureaucracy to sort out a divorce.
22:54And when you're at an international wedding,
22:57This bureaucracy is probably twice as bad.
23:00Unfortunately, what gains notoriety,
23:03What we see are these kinds of cases.
23:05So, what happens is that these mothers,
23:08in these vulnerable situations,
23:11grabbing their children in a desperate act
23:14and to run away, which is what we call Aya's mothers.
23:19And now we're going to talk about Law 28,
23:24which is the Aya Convention.
23:26Do you know all those details that Andrea mentioned in her video?
23:30Regarding permanent housing, the child's adaptation,
23:34the school she attends,
23:36How is she integrated into society?
23:40This is all that the Convention of Aya looks at when it is activated.
23:46But what exactly is Law 28 of the Aya Convention?
23:52In short, it is an international agreement signed by several countries.
23:57among them Brazil,
23:59which aims to protect children from being subjugated by one of their parents,
24:07in cases of international marriage.
24:11Currently, there are 103 countries that are part of the Aya Convention.
24:17And it works more or less like this,
24:19when one parent takes or retains a child in another country.
24:23without authorization from the person in charge or against a court order.
24:29This could be considered international kidnapping.
24:34In this case, the Aya Convention guarantees
24:37that the child be returned to the country where she or she normally lived.
24:43Remember Andrea's video?
24:45They will take into consideration where the child resides.
24:51where she is best adapted,
24:54where she fits best,
24:55where she studies,
24:57Where is her permanent residence?
25:00even though she speaks two languages,
25:02even though she has dual citizenship.
25:05The Aya Convention, until some time ago,
25:08She didn't pay much attention to emotional issues.
25:12Let's put it this way, it was something more practical.
25:15This child belongs to such and such a country.
25:18So this child will return to that country.
25:21So let's assume,
25:21I married a Spaniard, right?
25:24Let's suppose,
25:25Because Spain is also a party to the Aya Convention.
25:28Then something really bad happens,
25:32I'll take my child and return to Brazil.
25:35without his permission.
25:36He goes and activates the Aya Convention.
25:40Then the Federal Police came after me.
25:43take my son, my daughter,
25:45and returns it to the father.
25:46In short,
25:49That's what happens.
25:51And that,
25:52There was even a comment here.
25:53I'm just returning here quickly,
25:56In a comment that I let slip regarding Andréia's case,
25:59They commented on the Renata Cantarelli case.
26:03And folks,
26:04I was even going to bring this case up in this video.
26:07But when I started researching Renata's case,
26:13That's how it is,
26:13You can't approach him quickly.
26:16If you want to know about Renata Cantarelli's case,
26:22who had her two daughters taken away by the Convention of Aya,
26:27Leave your suggestions in the comments and I'll bring them to you.
26:31Just sharing an interesting fact,
26:33Why do you call the Convention Aya?
26:35Why does it have that name?
26:36That's because it was signed in the city of Aya.
26:40in the Netherlands.
26:43And that's when I felt the need to come and talk to you all.
26:47because at the peak of my 42 years,
26:50I really had no knowledge about the Aya Convention.
26:56Yes, I knew that there are some cultures in which the son belongs to the father's family.
27:03Then,
27:04when I saw Ivana's story,
27:07From what I read and researched about FKO,
27:11And then I saw Raquel's case,
27:14And since there are Brazilian women who have already suffered,
27:20They are suffering because of this law.
27:24Like I said,
27:25It is important to know international laws.
27:29so that we can spread this information further.
27:33that can be useful to someone,
27:35I honestly didn't know this was happening.
27:40Neither.
27:41It's proof that we live in bubbles, isn't it?
27:43What if the universe didn't have the best idea that it existed?
27:46I believe you can never have too much knowledge.
27:48And we also want to emphasize that the Aya Convention is not just for mothers.
27:54The cases we see most often involve women.
27:57but there are also many cases of parents,
28:01who were also victims of having their children subjugated by mothers, right?
28:07On the contrary.
28:09But, once again, answering that message up there,
28:11Not that we want every relationship to end.
28:17But we don't know what tomorrow will bring.
28:20And now, continuing this thought,
28:24Let's watch two videos of two Brazilian women.
28:28One is in the United States,
28:30The other one is in the Netherlands.
28:33And they tell us about their lives.
28:37of not being able to leave these countries,
28:41to return to Brazil,
28:44because they cannot bring their children with them.
28:48The first video we're going to watch
28:51It's from his aunt's profile.
28:54I never regretted having my children.
28:56But I regret not having had more information.
28:59before having them.
29:01And that was before I had my children on American soil.
29:03Exactly what we're talking about.
29:05The importance of having knowledge of international law.
29:09But why isn't this more widely publicized?
29:11Because, folks, it's a very specific AIA law.
29:13I didn't even know what AIA was.
29:15Exactly.
29:16And so, if you're going to take it like this,
29:18cases of women who are deceived
29:21in international relations,
29:23It's not a very distant bubble.
29:26It gets even more complicated when children are involved.
29:29Ending a relationship is complicated.
29:31You end a relationship with your son,
29:33much more complicated.
29:35You end an international relationship.
29:37It must already be tense.
29:40Ending an international relationship with your son
29:42It's the mother's terrible burden.
29:44But, remember, are we going to answer that person again?
29:47We are not wishing for any relationship to develop.
29:51Ultimately, we are only working with various hypotheses.
29:56I know that in desperation, that might be the first thing you think of.
29:59Ah, I'm going to take my child and go back to my country.
30:01But think twice before doing that.
30:03Because the AIA convention, it can indeed take your children away from you.
30:07It doesn't matter how much evidence you have against your husband or wife.
30:10Now, if you live in Brazil and your child has been taken to another country,
30:13You have two options.
30:15Or contact the Brazilian authorities.
30:17But this process can be extremely exhausting and time-consuming.
30:21Or hire a lawyer directly in the country where your child was taken.
30:25This might be a little faster, but probably more expensive.
30:28But it's worth it, right?
30:29So there you have it, something to think about.
30:31If you have children, like an American here in the United States
30:34or any country that is a party to the EIA convention,
30:37And if you decide to get a divorce and you want to go back to Brazil,
30:41You might not be able to.
30:43And I couldn't.
30:44And now I have to learn to live in a country where I have no family.
30:48I don't have people to support me.
30:51But at least I'm with my children.
30:53Wow, the atmosphere was tense.
30:55Poor thing.
30:56The next video is from Maria Munira, who is in the Netherlands.
31:01And her reality isn't very different from the video we just watched.
31:08Let me make one thing perfectly clear.
31:10My son has a Dutch father.
31:14So, I'm going to say something here that applies to many people and serves as a warning.
31:18Since my son has a Dutch father and we have joint custody,
31:22I can't go back to Brazil.
31:26Law.
31:27From the moment I return to Brazil without my father's permission,
31:33even if I go without my father's permission and manage to get to Brazil,
31:37He can contact the Dutch government.
31:42And the Dutch government does everything and goes there to Brazil.
31:48and take my children back and bring them to Holland.
31:52And you know what else happens?
31:54I call her a kidnapper, I'm not going back to the Netherlands, and I forgive my children.
32:00This has happened to several people before.
32:02So, like, if you have a child with a foreigner,
32:06I'm not going to say that I don't know, despite all this.
32:08I only know how to do it with foreigners.
32:09And you're thinking of returning to Brazil,
32:11Without his father's permission, he won't come back.
32:15He's not coming back.
32:17Man, I went through hell.
32:19I went through things I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
32:23But he's not coming back.
32:24Because from the moment you return to Brazil,
32:27You lose the child, he comes back.
32:29And you're still listed as a kidnapper?
32:31and you can no longer enter the country,
32:33In one country, and you won't see your child, you won't.
32:37And you know that justice takes time, man.
32:40So, don't make that mistake.
32:42Don't do it.
32:43So, be aware, if you marry a Dutchman,
32:46something, and come live in Europe,
32:48If you separate, you don't get back with your child.
32:51And I, as a mother who loves my children,
32:53I would never go back without my children.
32:55Never.
32:56I've been through what I've been through, I could go through it again.
32:59But I would never go back to Brazil without my children, man.
33:02Life would be meaningless if I returned to Brazil without my children.
33:06Never.
33:06And today, at the beginning, we don't understand anything.
33:10And today I am very happy.
33:11Today I have no desire to return to Brazil.
33:14This is my place, Holland.
33:16This is where my children belong.
33:18They will grow up here, be born here.
33:21And this is a place that's out of this world.
33:25I see that there is a future here.
33:26It's not that it doesn't exist in Brazil.
33:27But their future here is bigger.
33:29So, everything I went through was worth it.
33:32So, be aware.
33:34If you have children with a foreigner,
33:36You're not coming back to Brazil anymore.
33:39If your marriage is going well,
33:41and the father is someone else,
33:42and authorize you to live in Brazil.
33:44But apart from that, you're not going back to Brazil with the child.
33:47He's not coming back.
33:47You can go back alone.
33:48But your son is no longer going to Brazil.
33:51If the father does not authorize it.
33:53And you're going to fight it in court, you're going to fight it.
33:55And it's still going to be very difficult.
33:58Very.
34:05To know the person by your side very well,
34:07maybe that's not enough,
34:09But it already helps a lot.
34:10Remember that the purpose of this video is...
34:12It's not about criticizing international relations,
34:15saying that if you met a person outside the country,
34:19Obviously you're being deceived.
34:22Your relationship is going to go wrong.
34:24And all of this that we are seeing
34:26This is what will most likely happen to you.
34:29No.
34:30There are healthy relationships,
34:32There are many international couples.
34:35who get along well,
34:37who are happy.
34:38But, unfortunately,
34:40if we are seeing this,
34:42That's because there are statistics there.
34:46that something is also happening.
34:50So, the goal of the video is to talk about,
34:55It's about exchanging information.
34:56And as I mentioned at the beginning of the video,
34:59to know international laws,
35:02to be aware of where I'm fitting in,
35:06entering,
35:07It is extremely fundamental.
35:09to know exactly how to act
35:12In case something unexpected happens.
35:16And as I said
35:17that the Aya convention
35:19It serves both mothers
35:21as for father,
35:22There's a comment on the video.
35:24by Maria Munira
35:25of a father.
35:26I'm going through this.
35:27six years ago.
35:29My son's mother
35:30She is Dutch.
35:32Unfortunately,
35:32We're stuck here.
35:34And truth,
35:35Men too.
35:36We just think that
35:37the woman who goes through this,
35:38She has a man too.
35:39Exactly.
35:40But,
35:41when I was finishing
35:43this video here
35:44so we can leave
35:45for the last case,
35:47I found out
35:48which has made progress
35:50in relation to
35:51to the Aya convention
35:53here in Brazil.
35:55The Supreme Federal Court
35:56voted in favor
35:58of Aya's mothers.
36:00In a unanimous vote,
36:01they succeeded
36:02A historic victory.
36:05Who will tell the story best?
36:06for us
36:07It's Camila.
36:08in your video.
36:09The Supreme Federal Court
36:11made a historic decision
36:12that changes lives
36:13of women and children
36:14who live
36:15The pain of violence.
36:17Let's remember
36:18a little bit.
36:19Since 1980,
36:20the Convention exists
36:21of Aya
36:22regarding civil aspects
36:24of the kidnapping
36:25international children's group.
36:26And Brazil
36:27adhered to this convention
36:28Sometime around the year 2000.
36:29And since then,
36:30The rule was automatic.
36:32When a child
36:33was brought
36:33from another country
36:34without authorization
36:35of one of the parents,
36:36she should be
36:37returned immediately
36:39to the country
36:40habitual residence.
36:41No matter the reason,
36:43no matter the pain,
36:45it didn't matter if the mother
36:46had escaped
36:47of a relationship
36:48violent.
36:49The law only commanded
36:50return.
36:51And that was it.
36:52that Brazil was doing.
36:53And that was it.
36:54that Spain was doing.
36:55And that
36:56that parents still do.
36:58However,
36:59my people,
36:59life is not
37:00fits in
37:01automated formulas.
37:03Many of these women
37:04and some men
37:05also
37:05crossed borders
37:07carrying their children
37:08not on a whim,
37:09not even for revenge,
37:10but for survival.
37:13And there,
37:14when they arrived
37:14in your country of origin,
37:15they were forced
37:16to return
37:17your children
37:18for the same
37:19context of violence
37:20where are they from
37:21They had managed to escape.
37:22There,
37:23yesterday,
37:24the Supreme Federal Court changed
37:25this paradigm.
37:26A vote
37:27unanimous,
37:28the ministers
37:29they recognized
37:29that the AIA Convention
37:31needs to be interpreted
37:32in light of the Constitution
37:33Brazilian,
37:34which puts the best
37:35child's interest
37:36and protection
37:37of human dignity
37:38above all
37:40international treaty.
37:41And what was decided?
37:42It's magnificent.
37:44When there is evidence
37:45domestic violence,
37:47be against the child
37:48that is, against the mother,
37:50There is no more
37:51the obligation
37:52of the immediate return
37:53of the child.
37:54The judge must analyze
37:55case by case,
37:56listening to the child
37:57when necessary,
37:58listening to the father
38:00who ran away with the child,
38:01the mother or the father,
38:02and assessing the risks
38:03real violence.
38:05This means that,
38:06from now on,
38:07each story
38:08It will have to be looked at.
38:09in the eyes.
38:10A new era
38:11in which love,
38:12in which dignity,
38:13in which life
38:14They pass in front
38:15of any paper
38:17Signed.
38:17And that precedent
38:19Brazilian
38:19inspire everyone
38:21the countries
38:22who also signed
38:23the AIA Convention.
38:24Because when
38:25a mother
38:26or a father
38:27they leave to return
38:28to your home
38:29with your son,
38:30Sometimes it's not fast.
38:31Sometimes it's a way
38:33to protect.
38:34and today
38:35the Supreme Federal Court
38:36He honored that love.
38:38For sure
38:39and yes
38:39a great victory
38:41and because of the cases
38:42that I was seeing,
38:43Based on the comments,
38:44the testimonies,
38:46I really
38:47I hope
38:48what,
38:49at least
38:50with this vote
38:51what happened
38:51in the Supreme Court
38:53Federal,
38:54they can
38:55now
38:55give a
38:56breath
38:57quiet
38:58and a light
38:59at the end of the tunnel
39:01may arise
39:02for these cases.
39:03There are some comments.
39:05here
39:05saying
39:06in theory
39:07It's beautiful.
39:08for sure
39:08in practice
39:09It won't be that easy.
39:11like this.
39:11She answered herself.
39:12the decision
39:1360 days
39:14to the Council
39:15of Justice
39:16draw up a plan
39:17for that
39:17to happen.
39:18Because really
39:19It can't be
39:20Overnight.
39:21Vote,
39:22everyone agrees,
39:23So what?
39:23Now everyone
39:24you have to sit down
39:25and decide
39:26how is that
39:27It will be done.
39:27This can set you free
39:29many women
39:29of the European countries,
39:31but they have
39:32that you can
39:32leaving the country
39:34where do you live
39:34and that
39:35Only a few succeed.
39:37Because one of the things
39:37that I was seeing
39:38That's how it is.
39:39that arrives
39:40at the airport
39:41sometimes
39:42justice itself
39:43bar
39:44boarding
39:45of them
39:46back
39:46For Brazil.
39:47So,
39:48it really
39:48a situation
39:51terrifying.
39:52And finally,
39:53let's talk
39:54of the case
39:55that I mentioned
39:55at the beginning
39:56from the video.
39:57The teenager
39:5815 years old
39:59who pleaded
40:00to the court
40:01Swiss
40:02so that she
40:03returned
40:04to live
40:05with your
40:05Brazilian mother.
40:07Her name is
40:08Moara
40:09and apparently
40:10she is living
40:12in a situation
40:12prison
40:14private
40:15with his father
40:16in Switzerland.
40:17She is a product
40:18of a relationship
40:19from a Brazilian woman
40:20with a Swiss person.
40:21They both met.
40:22here in Brazil
40:24and then
40:24they moved
40:25to Switzerland
40:27where she was born.
40:28It seems that
40:28unfortunately
40:29the wedding
40:30Theirs didn't work out.
40:32They got divorced.
40:33but they kept
40:34joint custody
40:36so that they
40:37could
40:37observe together
40:39growth
40:40of the girl.
40:41It seems that
40:42around
40:432012
40:44Neide
40:45the mother
40:46of the girl
40:47began to observe
40:48that she
40:49was returning
40:50with spots
40:51throughout the body
40:52whenever
40:53she was passing
40:54some period
40:55at home
40:56of the father.
40:57Concerned
40:57with that
40:58she took
40:59the girl
41:00at the hospital
41:00to see
41:02what was it about
41:03those stains
41:04but the hospital
41:05simply
41:06I didn't care.
41:08to those brands.
41:10Then
41:10she decided
41:12to go back
41:12to Brazil
41:14with the girl
41:15same
41:16not having
41:17authorization
41:18of the parent.
41:20Characterizing
41:21that which we
41:21we mentioned
41:22during
41:23from the video
41:24becoming
41:25a mother
41:25of Aya
41:26That's over.
41:27around
41:28of 2018
41:29both
41:30lived
41:31together
41:31in São Luís
41:32in Maranhão
41:33for approximately
41:34about 4 years
41:36even the father
41:38of the girl
41:38activate
41:39the convention
41:41of Aya
41:41there in Switzerland
41:43he came
41:43personally
41:44here in Brazil
41:45pick up the girl
41:46back
41:47she didn't want to
41:48hypothetically
41:49some
41:49to go back
41:50to Switzerland
41:51much less
41:52for the company
41:53of the father
41:54accordingly
41:54with mother
41:55what it was
41:56proven
41:57after
41:57the girl
41:58resisted
41:59vehemently
42:00your
42:01repatriation
42:02and needed
42:03to be
42:03drugged
42:04to return
42:05to Switzerland
42:06Neide
42:07Moara's mother
42:08He went after it.
42:09of your daughter
42:11and returned
42:11to Switzerland
42:12also
42:13staying in the city
42:14from Itarlaquem
42:15where he received
42:16indictment
42:17subtraction
42:17minor
42:18by convention
42:19of Aya
42:20and received
42:21What a shame.
42:21convicted
42:2234 months
42:24prison
42:26where is she
42:26about regime
42:28conditional
42:29at first
42:30she had permission
42:32to visit
42:32your daughter
42:33twice
42:34per month
42:36under supervision
42:37but there are almost
42:38one year
42:39these visits
42:40were suspended
42:41and she doesn't have
42:42no contact
42:44with the daughter
42:45as for Moara
42:46she wrote
42:47last year
42:47the letter
42:49which was delivered
42:50to the court
42:51from Switzerland
42:52she already had
42:53attempts made
42:54to other bodies
42:55but none of them
42:57They listened.
42:58the girl
42:58in this letter
42:59she pleads
43:01so that they
43:02shoot
43:03of the presence
43:04of the father
43:05that they allow
43:06that she returns
43:07for the company
43:08from your mother
43:09I'm going to read one.
43:10small excerpt
43:11from her letter
43:12for you
43:13I am scared
43:14and disgust
43:14of these two
43:15my father
43:16and Nicole
43:17who is the stepmother
43:18her
43:18I don't want to stay here.
43:19but also
43:20I don't want to go
43:21for a house
43:21teenagers
43:22I want to stay with my mother.
43:23until the end of the process
43:25this house
43:26It's hell.
43:27It's a prison.
43:28write this letter
43:29as a last resort
43:31to have my life
43:31back
43:32and be able to follow
43:33in front
43:34because in that place
43:35I'm wrong.
43:36of living
43:36It's strange to imagine
43:37that she has
43:38only 15 years
43:39who is writing this
43:40after that
43:41There is no further news.
43:43from Moara
43:43Not even from Neide
43:45nor of the case
43:46good
43:46at least I
43:47I couldn't find it.
43:49I couldn't find it.
43:50if you know
43:51this case
43:52if you have more information
43:54that can add
43:56Leave it here
43:57in the comments
43:58because
43:59where did I find out
44:00the girl
44:01no access
44:02the Internet
44:03no access
44:05to no others
44:06media
44:07I know that
44:08college students
44:10right
44:11from Toledo Prudente
44:12in São Paulo
44:13they filed a petition
44:15in the European Court
44:16Human Rights
44:18the students
44:19They accuse Switzerland.
44:20to violate
44:22fundamental rights
44:23of the teenager
44:24according to them
44:25the girl
44:26all this time
44:28is asking
44:29only
44:30to live
44:31in an environment
44:32insurance
44:33and peaceful
44:34and she is not being heard
44:35because
44:36she already has
44:37more than 12 years
44:38and I think
44:39from that age
44:40that the judges
44:41begin
44:42listening
44:43the children
44:44but it seems
44:46that she is being
44:47neglected
44:48in that right
44:50organizations
44:51as the Central Authority
44:52Federal Administration
44:54and the Public Prosecutor's Office
44:55from Brazil
44:56They are following.
44:57the case
44:58but according to them
44:59the situation
45:00remains
45:01challenging
45:02and now
45:03I'm going to do it.
45:04the appeal
45:04here in this video
45:05if you want
45:07support
45:08in a more active way
45:09this case
45:10has a profile
45:12the
45:12at
45:13return
45:13Moara
45:14it seems that over there
45:15There are more updates.
45:17information
45:18about the case
45:20you can
45:21to accompany
45:22over there
45:23and I think
45:24that at this moment
45:25visibility
45:26public
45:27It is fundamental.
45:28because, as I said
45:30during
45:30from the video
45:31I really
45:32I did not know
45:33about these cases
45:35so I believe
45:36what information
45:37debate
45:38It is extremely
45:40important
45:41maybe it won't work
45:42for you
45:43that it is not passing
45:45but it can serve
45:46like a network
45:48support
45:49and as a form
45:50to end
45:51with this practice
45:53that only brings
45:54Suffering
45:55mainly
45:56for innocents
45:58that was
45:59today's video
46:00I hope you
46:01I hope you enjoyed it.
46:02if case
46:03you want
46:04more videos
46:05regarding
46:05about this subject
46:06Leave it there.
46:07in the comments
46:08and see you
46:09in the next video
46:10Bye bye
46:25goodbye
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