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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:27I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain-Spanish. Spain-Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Bader. Yeah. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban,
00:50right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain.
00:56Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck with you either
01:00growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that
01:05you told me. Yeah. I love Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think
01:11that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know,
01:17gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight,
01:22I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house to the hood is what he said.
01:27That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having, you know, he said he wanted
01:33to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:40school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing that felt like it was really a part
01:46of the cultural zeitgeist. And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really
01:52cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think
01:59also
01:59was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and
02:05place and like letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm going to try to make an acronym. Sexy. This is going to be in relation to, um,
02:20into, uh, Ember and Ice. Um, sexy. Magic. Um, universe.
02:31T-T-T-T-T-T-T
02:33T-T-T-T
02:36the tongue
02:36the tongue
02:36the tongue
02:36the tongue
02:36the tongue
02:39I have no idea
02:40what did I say
02:41sexy magic
02:42universe
02:46titillating
02:47yeah
02:48yeah
02:49we'll do that
02:50titillating
02:50oh you very publicly
02:52shot your shot
02:53for Nightwang
02:55which was extremely fun to watch have you been a DC fan and what is it like to see fans
03:00instantly
03:01rally behind you especially the ones that say you have the face the talent and the butt I will be
03:06completely honest I when I saw like some fan art of you as Nightwing I was like blown away whoa
03:13like I I mean you never know if that's going to come to fruition or not but yeah I see
03:19like
03:19someone did you in the comic book style I was like I see it right away wow yeah I would
03:25I would love to
03:26play him I love DC I love um I loved all like comic books that were true to the source
03:35material um
03:37and I think you know there are a lot of good filmmakers who like bring their own style
03:42to these you know beloved um um comics that I think it would be really great to work with them
03:49you know I'm not fully set on Nightwing you know I'm open to other things um did you always want
03:55to be in like did is superheroes no always something that's been like I absolutely not it's just it's
04:03when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven so when like a guy like James Gunn um
04:08or Matt Reeves you know comes to comics it I think that's what draws me um and and I heard
04:16James Gunn
04:16is doing the the Teen Titans I know there's yeah but yeah James Gunn he's in love with you
04:23true or false Hudson is more like Ilya in real life and Connor is more like Shane I think me
04:29and you
04:29are both like Rose and I'm like Svetlana I just said me and you are both like Rose but I'm
04:36just I'm
04:37just parting ways that's so Svetlana for you to say um I don't know I mean maybe I do feel
04:44like
04:44Ilya I don't know I think that um I I'm I'm too sensitive or outwardly sensitive or don't have a
04:52lot
04:52of shame around emotion to be Ilya I could be a little cocky like Ilya yeah but beyond that it's
04:58like I think Shane and Ilya sort of share us you know a soulfulness that's kind of buried under all
05:04these you know walls and kind of um uh masks but I think I think underneath that what we both
05:12relate
05:12with both of them is you know the the heart and and their soul after wrapping heated rivalry you two
05:19got matching tattoos that say sex sales and if true how did that happen um I did I have a
05:26reason
05:26for coming up to Vancouver I just want to come see yeah come hang out am I not good enough
05:30right
05:30come on yeah I just I don't know why for a second I was like I have something to do
05:34up there I have
05:35nothing to do in Vancouver I was there so yeah I just went up to see um I just came
05:42up to see you we
05:43knew we wanted to get matching tattoos I hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever um and we were just
05:47shuffling through ideas and yeah I think you came up with sex but like we were both pitching ideas
05:53and then like one person would like them the other person wouldn't and then when you said sex sales
05:58I was like oh we were sold that's the first idea you've had that's good I think it's honestly my
06:02most well done tattoo as well so that feels good the front of my shin pull in here zoom in
06:10true or false you ate a pound of beef of ground beef a day while filming heated rivalry true um
06:17Connor
06:18told me what his routine was and after I saw him in person um I asked him how he got
06:24to that size I
06:25thought he was taking illicit substances he wasn't he does it super clean sorry I mentioned illicit
06:31substances um but I have nothing to hide bring it on but he was so
06:37just like so I was like what are you eating freak uh I was like I'm eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that and I was like I think that means ground
06:49beef
06:50um you're like that level of capability is what I need and then Connor was actually the person who put
06:55me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know ilia cheeks um
07:02and chests
07:03you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac arrest
07:09and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know pumped
07:14up pecs and a shut down you look you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it ends
07:19that way yeah yeah I actually um I'm gonna one-up this true or false I actually think that we
07:25ate more
07:26than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has I think 84 grams of protein and
07:31you need a
07:31solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes I can eat two pounds of ground beef a
07:37day plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads I was having so much salad because by the end
07:43I got like
07:43gained 10 pounds so like when I started shooting I was like and by the end I was like 10
07:48pounds heavier
07:48and it was because of yeah you I mean you're very inspiring I'm glad that we had each other because
07:54it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going back to our 12 hour
07:59days and
07:59then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone it's really it's nice that I got
08:03to be
08:04like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from a fucking 11 hour day skating lesson and
08:11Connor would
08:11go let's do legs and I and I looked him he's a madman that's how he has a butt he'll
08:16finish a skating
08:17lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and I was like what are you saying I okay
08:24I knew I
08:24had a responsibility to the people he's America's ass and I I take that very seriously romance readers
08:34are famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel any pressure being bringing a beloved story
08:39to life and how did you approach making the characters your own it's good I think to go into
08:43a project accepting that you know people might be disappointed especially with something like a
08:50book where everyone already has preconceived notions they've vision they've envisioned these characters
08:54they've drawn these characters they've gotten tattoos of these characters like the love is already there so
09:00much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed all you can do is is read the material as much
09:07as
09:08you possibly can yeah and um and respect it show the respect show the dedication and just hope that people
09:16you know
09:17connect with it and love it and see that enthusiasm I think we both had that level of whether you
09:22want to call it
09:22nihilism or not like people might just hate this people might hate your casting and they might hate my casting
09:28I'm not
09:29going to expect anything more and I'm just gonna do the best I can but you have really no metric
09:35of if people are going to be
09:37warm to your your take I really think at the end of the day all you can do is be
09:42really intentional give
09:43it a hundred and fifty percent yeah just go for it you know yeah and luckily for us this worked
09:50out really freaking well
09:55Hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step Korean skincare routine can you break it down for
10:01us
10:01it's not that lengthy yeah I always made fun of you for it too because I like honestly I'm just
10:06kind of jealous
10:07because you have really good skin um but I was like yeah your skin routine and then it's actually not
10:12that long
10:12it's not that long it's okay I'm gonna tell you in the morning I use water to cleanse my face
10:19warm water and then I
10:21put on a glow toner but it's pretty dry it's not like I don't like when people have like dewy
10:26like if I see someone it looks like they just wore a face mask I'm like why are you out
10:30right now
10:30like go go wipe that off and then come talk to me because I won't right now
10:34um and then so my toner and then I'll put on um a serum and then sunscreen and then sometimes
10:42instead of a serum
10:43I put on a moisturizer and then my PM routine is an oil cleanser you know to get out these
10:49blackheads
10:49to get the the gunk out um and then I'll either use like a CeraVe normal ass cleanser or I'll
10:57use like a
10:57pore shrinking cleanser that's their new that's their new slogan CeraVe normal ass cleanser I think that
11:05is I yeah I also and then like a pore shrink or a pore shrinking cleanser if that's my goal
11:10and then the same
11:11thing toner serum and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid and then I go to fucking sleep
11:18so I think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot well I will also say I mean it
11:25makes
11:25sense you have flawless skin so and then when I take it off it just falls apart yeah he unhooks
11:32the
11:32he unhooks the clip back here in the back keeps it all up connor yes story yes do you have
11:39a favorite
11:40spicy scene from heated rivalry and a favorite from ember and ice what makes those stand out for
11:44you my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice is actually a scene where dane is with two former
11:51lovers cassandra and elijah yep i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane
12:03has an
12:04interaction with uh two of his former lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh
12:12yeah not to spoil but he he ends up realizing that what what really works for him isn't working for
12:19him
12:19anymore and it's kind of this moment of identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing
12:25me the same i think that's really cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy
12:30and spicy but it also is really revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you
12:36know um and i think it's funny i think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like
12:42and then the next thing i did was i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then
12:46he's like he's like
12:47my friends i have bad news i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene
12:54where we kind of
12:55go in together and you kind of coax it out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's
13:00just
13:01you know a lot of times like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in
13:06a way
13:07that one really got me um frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there's
13:15one that was really fun to film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing
13:19against the glass and our lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people
13:25i
13:26know it's always a fun balance right of like when you're filming um separate from like the audio
13:31space when you're filming it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of it is
13:39like is like
13:40true sex because at the end of the day you know you do have in real life people do have
13:44those those
13:45like movie moments where you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone on set was
13:49like oh yeah no we i've done that and then connor and i were like oh oh we usually fold
13:55our clothes
13:56place them down then go both chain naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in true
14:05or false
14:05hudson's roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know
14:12how many times i know that you i've yeah i remember this yep it's true it was one roommate
14:18um and i i mooned him 31 times what was his reaction when you moved him was he like hudson
14:28her poor name was chelsea i i i've talked with her and chelsea has been like you can say my
14:33name
14:33and i was like so i've since talked about this since double consent uh double consent um and uh poor
14:39chelsea would just go i think her main reaction was like oh and it made me so happy where where
14:51is chelsea now and i i developed different techniques over the years um she's chilling she's
14:56got a cat that's like hanging off her walls um but i would go and i would do like a
15:01drive-by
15:01i had all these different techniques and then she would bring like other you know um romantic
15:06interests home and then they're like what's this tally up on the board and they're like oh that's
15:10how many times hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would you just like kind of butt
15:16crack it or would you full so i had one where i would get pants low like i would de
15:22-pants and she
15:22would be unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and i would run by and jump in the
15:28air so i was
15:30like a like like a like a literal moon a literal moon but in fast motion sometimes i would just
15:35do
15:35the like oh drop something before we leave bend and i'm right there gotcha oh god
15:43yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were gonna moon someone yeah a
15:48close
15:49friend chelsea is still my close friend make it and make it known that this is okay yep
15:53she got a do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as an asian actor
16:01leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for
16:06more people to see you in going forward hmm yeah i i wanna i wanna represent my my wasians out
16:15there
16:15you know um i've been declared do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince of
16:23wajah me i mean i i sign off on it okay i think you he's the final stamp off guy
16:30for this so uh yeah
16:32i'm the ambassador of wajah as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but uh as as uh this um
16:41little wajah i am i hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm happy to
16:50do roles that are you know race has something to to play in there but also i just want to
16:55be an actor
16:56and a lot of the times i just want to play parts where it's like i'm i'm just there and
17:01we don't
17:02need to go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know i'm playing with any other uh non
17:09person of color would play as well you know you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person
17:14love it baby on both heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator
17:20why do you think that role matters on projects like this was there anything about the process
17:24that you think would surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question
17:32is
17:32i mean it's so important i mean you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing
17:41that i think would shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about and
17:47this is what i learned from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about the
17:52actual safety the boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's okay
17:59there's also actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know
18:07was also the voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know
18:12you need to i need to hear that shiver or that i need to hear those um i need to
18:18hear that feeling
18:19through your wings i need to see that come about i need to feel that pleasure in this way so
18:25it's not
18:25always technical even though that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic
18:29sensibility to that job and that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first
18:37ginger ale this is so fun we have canada dry we have schweps we have can you can someone give
18:44me a
18:44rundown of the brand nope you're gonna try it and we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from
18:49memory well how about this i'll hold it so we don't we don't give away anything yep that's my hudson
18:59that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like
19:11um yeah that's my guess it you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada
19:16dry's got more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and should
19:23be de-blindful
19:28we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way it says it says
19:37from frisco texas
19:39nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two that is so
19:48embarrassing
19:50thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one i'm good
19:58um you're my baby drink more
20:03okay this is cough syrup this is this is yellow snow what is this a pissy pineapple but that's the
20:15brand hudson i have to guess the brand that bye yeah this is schweps okay this one is schweps
20:30i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong
20:34i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding
20:40stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up give me another one do you have more
20:46bring
20:47me bring in how many more bring in the last one bring it to me oh this one's a hard
20:55one thank you
20:59oh no
21:09that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer
21:17hudson what what what what there's a there's a secondary flavor
21:26do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full som vibes do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's
21:41fucking ginger pear
21:43fucking it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to understand you can't taste
21:48that flavor at all let's see what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food
21:55coloring in you didn't put no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though
21:59that was that one's nice i like all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed
22:04it
22:04when did you first realize you clicked and what are some of your favorite memories from working
22:10together i would say our first facetime outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was always
22:16shane he was always ilia but then when we first met over facetime before we went to toronto um
22:24we had so many like so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked and
22:31similar
22:31approaches to how we you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there
22:38and i think that's saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the
22:43fact
22:43that there is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set being in
22:51muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was just great
22:59my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside joke that we
23:05just died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also with oh yeah i
23:12would always be
23:12like storm the set if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do it like a
23:19cattle
23:19call we used to joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and stuff where
23:24there would be like you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and we'd
23:28have
23:28like five people and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costumes get up there and
23:36everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage and just like
23:42opening it up to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement
23:49i can't i honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like i
23:56think i look a little too shabby i'm i'm in the process of gaining weight you know now yeah i
24:01was
24:01when you look you look freaking fantastic well bring it back to most of them but just garage
24:10yeah um yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care
24:20about my health i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work
24:27out
24:27even more yeah so what drew you to doing a fae romantic story and what was it about the script
24:32that hooked you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice you know that's the only
24:40tool you have and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know that there it was a
24:45really fun
24:46way to explore yourself it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's very demanding and it's well
24:51written i think in the booth the term winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway
25:01because there was like war there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a
25:09lot of ways um and that was way heavier than i thought you know this would look like and it
25:16was really
25:16rewarding the story just moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone who
25:24you know is not a big reader i think something like this would be really appealing to me um just
25:30the way it it cycles through the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah yeah i
25:36just
25:36think it's really like almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly
25:42with women right now mm yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it
25:49um there's so many reasons there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight
25:55women there are trans women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like
26:02a
26:02giant term to be like i know exactly why um you know there's like the element of you can live
26:08vicariously
26:09and you can feel safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered
26:15or thought of um that i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um
26:21and you
26:22are you are taken out of the equation there's and you're you're there's a spectatorship to that
26:31there's like a there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like especially women
26:38um historically being put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to sex and pleasure
26:43it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without um right female
26:51dynamic being yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like when you see like
26:56a hetero
26:57um couple you know you default to like relating with or forced to sort of relate with the woman character
27:04um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and two and like imagination a lot of writers you
27:10know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of outdated tropes um old archetypes and i
27:17think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they can kind of relate with this person in
27:21one
27:21moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced into a box of here this is your person to
27:26relate with at the end of the day though we're both men i have no idea what it's like to
27:31be a woman
27:32um yeah and so y'all let us know yeah y'all tell us i think me because i would
27:39just be i'd be drinking
27:42i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table yeah asleep naked but i will say you you're really
27:50freaking athletic and you're really strong and you know how to fight so if it came down to like a
27:55wrestling
27:56match between you and leather face freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning
28:04okay snack time me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than
28:13i do um if something is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like
28:20oh i've become really aware of how do you do that kind of it's not that you left and now
28:27now i'm
28:27gonna leave connor will do the like the like it's like so serious he kind of gets a little
28:33tape and then and i can't do his laugh do i do that do i do and then he goes
28:37do i do a polly pocket
28:39hand you know what i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself
28:48me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:57not me online more than i yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan
29:09and i'm like why what there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things
29:15yeah heaven eats ass i don't know yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it
29:25yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the rake and the cake the what the rake and the cake well you break up
29:36some some
29:36people together and then you ass yeah are these all going to be ass related
29:43they are for me
29:47oh right right
29:49oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like the grump
29:54why tubes why is this a love triangle thing
30:04you don't make me nervous on twitter we're going to react to some tweets you don't scare me connor's
30:09story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too good they'll kill
30:16you you really i mean you end up on delivery too good yeah you i i'm i'm cool with that
30:21i feel good um
30:22i i whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank you or if i'm supposed
30:28to
30:29like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples that's it
30:37that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i i saw the receipts
30:44and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all singing it yeah i was i was
30:52seeing it
30:53damn for real i love whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy bullets but because it's a true
31:11yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies you're
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics and character
31:33and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things jacob talks about
31:38this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us um to try and explain
31:45his vision
31:46which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages it can sound very sex heavy
31:50but to
31:51know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how they connect um yeah i
31:58think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know for the first years of their life
32:03that's how
32:03they communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know that's not usually how sex is
32:08used in media yeah yeah me dear i need hudson williams to know that so many people imagine draw
32:15right and read about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he knows and even comments on
32:23yeah mara he derived updates pointing this out to me i know when i learned that about it's crazy i
32:28was
32:29like whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think that's like i think that's in
32:35the
32:35deep fanfic side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what you freaks you gung-ho you
32:42go get
32:42it you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me knock him up this is another one
32:51about
32:51my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor's story deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o
32:58-t-y mean
32:59connor's story asks of the i don't like this tweet it should be asked century hey whoa
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