00:00Inusisa ng House Justice Committee ang mga batayan ng ikatlong impeachment complaint laban kay Vice President Sara Duterte.
00:07Sa isang punto ng pagdinig, nagbigay ng komento ang isang kongresista tungkol sa isang aktres.
00:13Nakatutok live, si Tina Pangalipan Perez, Ina.
00:20Emil, isa-isang tinalakay ng House Committee on Justice ang grounds for impeachment sa third impeachment complaint laban kay Vice
00:29President Sara Duterte nang simulan ang deliberasyon sa sufficiency in substance kanina.
00:35The meeting of the Committee on Justice is hereby called to order.
00:40Tinalakay isa-isa ng House Committee on Justice ang basehan kung bakit nais ipa-impeach si Vice President Sara Duterte.
00:48Una rito, ang kaugnay sa 500 million peso confidential funds ng Office of the Vice President noong 2022 at 2023
00:56at sa 112.5 million peso confidential funds ng dep at ng kalihim siya nito noong 2023.
01:04Meron hong testimonya na sinasabi na yung mga funds na yun ay hindi naman talaga nagamit dun sa mga dapat
01:13ipaggamit ng confidential funds.
01:17Nakita natin yung mga acknowledgements receipts ng mga which appear to be questionable and fictitious names.
01:24These were approved by the Vice President herself.
01:29May mga may pirma siya sa certain documents as attached.
01:33No allegations is made that the respondent received the funds or personally benefited, which is very important, yung personal benefit.
01:42Hindi naman kailangan ng personal benefit sa malversation.
01:45In fact, marami pong mga nasasakdal ngayon sa Sandigan Bayan.
01:49All they did was basically just sign into the disbursement vouchers, sign into the bidding documents.
01:56At nakapilas ho sila doon ngayon, nakapiit ho sila sa mga kaso on malversation kahit sinasabi na wala ho silang
02:06personal benefit.
02:07Sa issue ng confidential funds, idinidikit ang affidavit ng nagpakilalang dating aide ng BICE na si Ramil Madriaga na umaming
02:16nag-deliver siya ng pera sa ilang individual sa utos daw ng BICE.
02:21Ang utos, ipinariting daw ni Col. Raymond Lachica, ang dating head ng Vice Presidential Security and Protection Group.
02:30So eto na po yung sagot sa tanong kung saan po na punta yung pera na binigay kay Lachica.
02:36Base po ito sa affidavit ni Madriaga.
02:40Hinihinga namin ang reaksyon dito si Lachica pero dati na niyang itinanggi ang aligasyon.
02:45Pagdating sa pangalawang ground na konektado sa confidential funds ng Department of Education noong panahong nakaupo bilang kalihim si Duterte
02:55at sa third ground kaugnay sa umunay panunuhol sa ilang opisyal ng DepEd,
03:00nagtalo ang ilang kongresista kung sakop ba ito ng impeachment o hindi.
03:05Sabi kasi ng ilang kongresista, hindi naman daw impeachable official ang DepEd Secretary.
03:11Section 2 of Article 11 enumerates the officials that will be impeached.
03:17I cannot see here the Secretary of DepEd to be impeached.
03:24In other words, Ms. Madam Chair,
03:27these allegations about actuations of Vice President Sarah as duly appointed
03:36The Secretary of Education is not within the jurisdiction of an impeachment court.
03:44Pero pagkontra ng ilan, hindi pwedeng ihiwalay ang pagiging VP at pagiging DepEd Secretary ni Duterte
03:51dahil iisang tao lang siya.
03:53Hindi po pwedeng gano'n na kung ano lang ang ginawa bilang VP,
03:58hindi yung as DepEd Secretary,
04:01even if these are related in terms of modus, in terms of pattern, in terms of system,
04:09ay hindi na dapat cognizable by an impeachment proceeding before the House Committee.
04:17Otherwise, I can just commit violations, I can just commit offenses,
04:22and skirt, skirt, accountability.
04:28Again, you are now recognized.
04:31Nagpakita rin ang video si Delima mula sa isang hearing ng Kamara noong 19th Congress
04:37bilang suporta sa umano'y panunuhol sa ilang DepEd official,
04:41pati na video ng vice na umano'y pinagbantaan at Pangulo, First Lady at dating speaker.
04:47May kinausap na ako na tao, sinabi ko sa kanya, kapag pinatay ako,
04:53patayin mo si BBM, si Lisa, Karaneta, at si Martin Ovales.
04:58No joke.
05:00No joke.
05:02Common sense dictates that if you are really serious in killing someone,
05:07you do not announce it to the whole world.
05:09That amounts to a credible threat against the President, the First Lady, and the Speaker.
05:18Words from someone in her position carry weight.
05:24It can intimidate other officials,
05:28it can influence decision,
05:31and even undermine public trust.
05:35Para sa panlimang ground tungkol sa umano'y unexplained wealth
05:38at hindi pagdedeklara ni Duterte ng lahat ng ari-arian niya sa kanyang SAL-EN,
05:44sabi ni Delima,
05:45balak niyang ipasabpina ang SAL-EN at bank records ng vice sa hearing proper.
05:51Nagpalabas din si Delima ng video ng vice sa ilang rally at press conference
05:56para suportahan ang pang-anim na ground
05:59tungkol sa umano'y pagkakasangkot ni Duterte
06:01sa political destabilization, sedition, at insurrection.
06:06Pero ipinunto ni Quezon City Representative Bong Suntay
06:10na hindi pwedeng parusahan ng isang tao
06:13dahil lamang sa kanyang iniisip.
06:15Sa paglalarawan niya sa kanyang punto,
06:18may sinabi si Suntay na inalmahan ng ilang kongresista
06:21dahil sa pagiging offensive umano sa kababaihan.
06:25Alam mo mo minsan, nasa Shangri-La ko,
06:28nakita ko si Ann Curtis, ang ganda-ganda pala niya.
06:32May desire sa loob ko na nag-init talaga.
06:36Na-imagine ko na lang kung anong pwedeng mangyari.
06:38Pero siyempre, hanggang imagination na lang yun.
06:41Pero, di naman siguro ako pwedeng kasuhan
06:45dahil kung ano-ano'y na-imagine ko eh.
06:48Madam Chair, I would like to have those statements
06:52stricken from the record.
06:54There is nating seksual dun sa sinabi ko.
06:59Nating immoral.
07:00It's just, I said, may na-imagine ako.
07:04I think that is not, there is nothing wrong.
07:07Sa botong 13 yes,
07:092 no at 2 abstain,
07:12binura ang komento ni Suntay
07:13tungkol sa aktres na si Ann Curtis.
07:16The Chair would like to state
07:18that if the manifestation of the Justice Member
07:23offends the sensitivity of the Justice Members,
07:28then it means that we are crossing the boundaries.
07:31Madam Chair.
07:32After all,
07:33we rule here
07:34by the judgment of the Justice Members.
07:42Natapos na ngayong araw
07:43ang deliberasyon
07:44sa sufficiency in substance
07:46ng third impeachment complaint
07:48laban kay Vice President Sara Duterte.
07:50Hindi pa ito pinagbutohan
07:52kung sufficient in substance nga,
07:54pero nanindigan dito
07:55ang endorser
07:56na si Representative Laila Delima.
07:59Bukas naman
08:00sa pagpapatuloy ng deliberasyon
08:01ng House Committee on Justice,
08:03sufficiency in substance naman
08:05ng fourth impeachment complaint
08:07ang kanilang tatalakayin.
08:09Sabi ni House Committee on Justice Chair
08:11Jervie Luistro,
08:13sakaling sufficient in substance nga
08:15ang mga reklamo,
08:16pwede nilang idaos
08:18ang hearing proper
08:19sa Abril.
08:20Emil?
08:21Maraming salamat,
08:22Tina Panganiban Perez.
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