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Liverpool boss Arne Slot on Florian Wirtz fitness, inconsistent decisions in the Premier League and the challenge of facing bottom side Wolverhampton Wanderers
AXA Training Centre, Liverpool, UK
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00:00Thank you, I am.
00:03First of all, how's Florian Hurts? Have you got a timescale as to when he might be available for selection
00:08again?
00:10Not anything different than what I said after the game.
00:13The game tomorrow will probably come too soon.
00:16And maybe the game in the weekend as well, but let's see how that ends up.
00:21We hope to have him back somewhere next week.
00:25Maybe earlier, maybe a bit later, but that timescale.
00:28I just wanted to compare a couple of decisions that we've seen lately.
00:31Obviously, we saw the situation where Mark Gay appeared to pull back Mo Salah when he played Manchester City.
00:38Yesterday, when Manchester United played Crystal Palace, we saw a foul on the edge of the box,
00:43a penalty awarded and a red card given in that situation.
00:47Obviously, the game pulled back, but it wasn't a red card.
00:49It was not a red card.
00:52How was it comparable?
00:55Very comparable.
00:57The only difference is that Mo was pulled by the shirt and here was a hand on the shoulder.
01:03If I look at it, I see a similar distance.
01:06Maybe, maybe, maybe even the distance between Gay and Diaz was even a bigger distance
01:11than the distance between both centre-backs of Palace.
01:14But I would try to ask you, check this for me, please.
01:19Let's see if it's the similar distance or it's more or less.
01:23So, the moment when I saw it, because I saw it live, I thought, knowing what has happened with us
01:28in that situation,
01:30VAR is probably checking if it is even a penalty or if it's in or outside the box,
01:35but he will never, ever give a red card for this.
01:39And this is what I sometimes hold against VAR because every time when the Premier League comes in,
01:44they tell me that there were only two wrong decisions over a whole season.
01:48But I hold this against VAR, you're expecting, because in both situations it's a VAR interference.
01:56So, nine or ten times in football, there's the difference between
02:00the referee has given a red card, OK, I stay away from it, I accept his decision,
02:04or the referee did nothing, I stay away from it because I accept his decision.
02:08But in both situations, the referee did not give a red card.
02:13And in one situation, he overturned the two red cards.
02:17That is for me, either one of the two is a mistake.
02:20So then when you come in, in the end of the season, you have to say,
02:23OK, we made more than only one or two mistakes.
02:27But what they mean with a mistake is if the VAR overturned it in the wrong way.
02:32Yeah, I can expect that in these two is already a lot done.
02:38So, yeah, surprisingly this was a red card.
02:44No, this was not surprisingly a red card, this is for me a red card.
02:49Because I said so many times that it was clear for me
02:52that the one from Kuei was a red card as well.
02:55But I wasn't backed up by everyone.
02:59I wonder, what did the panel say? Do we know?
03:00I think the panel said afterwards that the correct decision is made.
03:06So, yeah, we're expecting the panel now to say five times
03:11the wrong decision made by VAR and the referee.
03:15What frustration then is there?
03:18Of course, there's a frustration because that's not the first time.
03:22This is such a clear example because it happened so short ago
03:26I know that you are now, ooh, but I would like you to remember
03:29the goal is allowed from us at City, the header.
03:33And one week later we played against Forest or two weeks, I don't know,
03:37and exactly the similar situation and the goal was allowed.
03:40So, it's not for the first time.
03:42But, yeah, I've said also many times we have to make sure
03:46that we don't depend on these decisions.
03:48We're better than that and we just win our games by being so good
03:52that even if decisions go against you, which sometimes happens in football,
03:56I'm not saying that since I'm here for one and a half year
03:58everything has gone against us, that's not true.
04:01But sometimes decisions go against you
04:02and you have to make sure that it doesn't hurt you.
04:05Since the game against City though, it's a 100 per cent record,
04:08and it feels like you've got Champions League qualification in your own hands now.
04:12How do you see it, particularly when the last four games of the season
04:15you've got United, Chelsea, Villa and Brentford?
04:18Yeah, what an impact it could have had if the right decision was made for our position in the league.
04:25But also what that would mean to the league table, not only for us,
04:27but I think other clubs were hoping that that would have been a red card as well.
04:35Yeah, we are playing Wolves tomorrow and they've shown recently that they do much better,
04:43or getting more results from what they deserve,
04:46because I think throughout the whole season they've hardly been beaten by big goal differences,
04:52so that tells you that they're a competitive team throughout the whole season
04:56and recently they picked up points and even a win against Villa,
05:00so we know that we again are going to face a difficult game tomorrow.
05:08I suppose it's quite an unusual situation playing against the same team twice in three days.
05:14What challenges does that provide for you as a manager?
05:18It's not unusual that we play three games in seven days for us,
05:21that's probably the fourth or fifth time this season that we have to do this.
05:27Does it bring a challenge maybe for the second game a little bit more,
05:31because then you know even better what to expect,
05:33but that I also like mainly on the Champions League,
05:36because the first time you play each other,
05:39mainly in the Champions League you don't play each other that much,
05:42so it's a bit new, but the second time you can prepare your team even better,
05:47especially if the team you face does the same again.
05:54But now being in the Premier League, we've played them already once,
05:57you see a lot of games of them because they play against teams that we are facing as well.
06:02You know each other that well that I don't see that much difference
06:07between playing each other twice in three days
06:09or that there's a longer period in between.
06:13You saw the importance of set-pieces again in the Premier League over the weekend.
06:18There's so much grappling and holding at corners.
06:22Does that need to be looked at or is it impossible to please that?
06:28Not everywhere you see that holding, but in some games you see that a lot in set-pieces.
06:35I said after the game we played something about the difference between us and Arsenal,
06:41going from 23 goals including penalties being down and us scoring free,
06:45I said probably we will now make the gap a bit smaller.
06:50But it was only one goal difference because they scored twice.
06:55Yeah, it is the new reality of the Premier League, mainly this season.
07:01Last season already a little bit, but mainly this season.
07:05Indeed, in some games you see a lot of fouls being made.
07:10And sometimes you also see very nice corner-kicks being scored.
07:19You're really well positioned now in the race for the Champions League places.
07:25We're coming into the final quarter of the season.
07:28How do you assess things?
07:30You said a few weeks ago the record would have to be almost perfect,
07:33and even if the performances haven't been, the results certainly have.
07:38Can you feel that things are beginning to turn in your favour
07:42and maybe that will give an added confidence to the players
07:46with so much having gone against them before that?
07:50No, that last thing is definitely true, what you were saying,
07:53that so many things have gone against us this season.
07:57In terms of performances, I think only the first half against Forrest
08:02was not of our standards for all the other games.
08:04I think we've played to our standards or what is there to expect currently in the Premier League,
08:11because it's not like every game is as if we were watching Barcelona 10 or 15 years ago
08:15or watching the Premier League four or five years ago.
08:18It just has changed how entertaining it is because of playing styles.
08:27We're well-placed now, but two weeks ago you didn't ask that question,
08:31but you could have asked the question, you're not so well-placed.
08:34So things can change really fast depending also on who you play yourself,
08:38who the other teams play.
08:40We're really close together with a few teams,
08:46and things can change every single matchday because of who you face yourself
08:52and who the other team is facing.
08:53So we, as all the other teams do as well, focus on our next game and ourselves.
08:59We know that every game has been difficult for us throughout the whole season,
09:03and that's what we expect in the upcoming turn as well.
09:06Given the problems that you've had in the right-back position,
09:09how important can it be between now and the end of the season
09:13to have Jeremy Krimpong back a bit again?
09:17We know how influential he can be,
09:20he can be a game-changer for you on occasion,
09:23so how difficult, given his recent record with injuries, how do you manage that?
09:30I don't think the only position we struggled was the right-field-back position,
09:34I think it's been in more positions,
09:35but the right-field-back is probably the one that stands out most.
09:39Having Jeremy back is really nice,
09:41but indeed what you are saying does go through your mind,
09:45because of the fact that we play three games in seven days,
09:47because if we play Galatasaray we have the early kick-off afterwards in Brighton, 12-15.
09:53So those things you all have to take into account,
09:56especially with players who come back from injuries.
10:00But we also know the importance of every single game,
10:03and that is a challenge performance staff,
10:07the player himself, the manager, has,
10:11but I'm not the only one who has that.
10:14I prefer to have this problem,
10:16to manage how many minutes do I have to give him,
10:19than to see him with the medical staff doing his recovery.
10:27I know you said in the past that goals aren't the only metrics you judge players by,
10:32but I just wondered how important that goal was for Cody the weekend,
10:36because he was calling a bit scrutiny in terms of his output.
10:40You said on Friday that when we talked about Moe,
10:43that he wasn't the only one in the fourth line who wanted to score in.
10:46So in particular for Cody, how important is that goal for him?
10:51As you correctly say, I don't judge them only on the goals they score,
10:55I judge them on different things as well.
10:57So attackers are also judged on the fact if we keep a clean sheet,
11:01as defenders are judged by the fact that we can score from open play,
11:04because they have to create promising situations for our attackers.
11:08But for our attackers, I know how they think and what they want,
11:13and that is scoring goals.
11:14So I was happy because I think it was the 4-1, if I'm correct.
11:19Yeah, it was the 4-1.
11:21So that gave us even a more comfortable cushion.
11:24But even more happy for him to score,
11:27because I think he needed that goal, as you correctly say.
11:39No, I don't think his confidence was gone or away or whatever in that regard,
11:47but I saw a few times recently that he made maybe different decisions than I'm used to.
11:53And that doesn't always have to mean that it's a lack of confidence,
11:57but I think when players are not scoring longer and longer,
12:01they start to think more about their action.
12:04And thinking is usually not the best way to...
12:07Yeah, that's not completely true.
12:09You need to think, but overthinking is not the best thing you can do.
12:17But I think that's something different than confidence,
12:20because these players, if it's Cody or Mo or whoever they are,
12:23they know that they can have a certain spell without scoring,
12:25but they know they've had this before in their careers,
12:28they will eventually start scoring again.
12:31But there are periods of time where you don't put that much effort in,
12:36but the ball just falls to you and you can score.
12:38And there are periods of time in your career where you try so hard, so hard, so hard,
12:42trying too hard or overthinking is usually not the best thing to score a goal.
12:49When Wolves played against Arsenal and Aston Villa recently,
12:53their set-up was quite narrow in order to ingest the centre of the pitch.
12:57And considering you're going to be missing a great talent in the centre-back,
13:01does that put more emphasis on the wider areas to find creativity?
13:08No, I don't think Wolves is an exception to that.
13:11I think all the teams, but that is not this year for the first time,
13:17all the teams try to protect the centre.
13:19Why? Because the goal is in the middle,
13:21so it's quite smart to protect the middle as much as you can.
13:24So you rely a lot, especially if you have the ball a lot and you face low blocks,
13:31you rely a lot on your combination play on the side,
13:34so a full-back winger with the help sometimes of a midfielder.
13:39And I think that has become clear in modern football
13:43that wingers' full-backs are very influential in open-play chance creation.
13:51Do you think that might have an influence on whether or not you do use Jeremy?
13:56Has that trickery and, as you said before, he's very good in one-on-one situations?
14:00Yeah, that definitely goes through my mind,
14:04but the other thing is we spoke about Jeremy,
14:06but you can also say the same about Joe Gomez,
14:09who's been out for a while, played 75 minutes for the second time.
14:14The last start he had before this weekend was against West Ham three or four months ago.
14:20So these are all the things which is our situation this season,
14:25and in the meantime I think the players handle that really well.
14:32Dominic or Milos, who is it this time?
14:34Dominic?
14:34Dominic or Milos, who is it this time?
14:36You can answer after this, but I'm more curious about how do you face two games
14:47against the same opponent in a short span and on the same pitch?
14:53So how do you balance both without losing focus on either?
15:00No, I don't think we're in a position to lose focus.
15:02No one is at this period of time, everyone is fighting for something,
15:05and we have to fight really hard in the league to get in the end what we want now,
15:12and that's a qualifier for Champions League,
15:14and there's an FA Cup to play for, so the focus will definitely be there.
15:19The only difference indeed is between playing each other in short notice,
15:24is that it's twice on their ground,
15:26where usually when you play in Europe you once have a home and an away game.
15:30But it is the situation we are facing now,
15:35and maybe the only person where it's helpful for is our analyst and myself,
15:44because usually you watch a lot of games from the opponent,
15:47now we've done this before this one,
15:49but before the next one we probably focus mainly on one game,
15:52and that's the one of tomorrow morning,
15:54so it saves me a bit of time maybe in the upcoming days.
15:58Alright, so can you tell me...
16:00That time will be used for Kalatasaray probably, but sorry.
16:04Can you tell me now the news about Milos?
16:08Oh, I don't think there's any news about them.
16:12They're fit, so that's...
16:16Yeah, they're both in a good place.
16:19Both played 90 in the last game, yeah.
16:21So, ready to go again.
16:26Oh!
16:28It seems to be a bit of a theme this season,
16:30that the top teams were at the top end of the league
16:32are less able to exercise control no matter who they're playing against.
16:37I just wondered if you have any thoughts about why that is,
16:40and do you think the top teams will be able to get that control back more?
16:43Is it just how the Premier League is now?
16:46Yeah, you give the answer and then I can tell you what the Premier League is.
16:50The Premier League is now that all the teams that are playing have a lot of money
16:55and can get very good players on ages between 25 and 30, the best athletes in the world.
17:04So, it's not only down to Liverpool or Chelsea or City or Arsenal or United
17:10or all the other top teams to sign big players from different leagues.
17:15This happens now with teams that are fighting for relegation as well.
17:19That's one thing.
17:20And the second thing is the playing style.
17:22The playing style is hard to control if you face, and that's not only against us,
17:28so if you face long balls it's really hard to control
17:32because then eventually that ball, if the goalkeeper kicks it from a free kick,
17:35it will end up in your box.
17:37And usually when the team plays a low block and is really well organised,
17:41they are able to play two, three, four, five, six times a good counter-attack.
17:47So that's the quality of the league.
17:49The playing style and the set pieces play a part of it as well,
17:52that it's really hard to control the game because, yeah,
17:55it's really hard not to concede a throw-in in your own half.
17:59It's really hard not to concede a free kick within 80 yards of your goal.
18:05So, yeah, if that ball has always been brought in,
18:09it's much more difficult to keep control over a game where in the past,
18:13and that's the recent past, teams probably didn't use so much that strategy
18:19as I'm talking about now.
18:22Did you have to change your approach then,
18:24and how to exercise that control?
18:28I think being a football manager throughout the years,
18:31you constantly adjust your approach towards what you are facing.
18:36But sometimes it's really hard to find a tactic
18:41about not giving away a throw-in in your own half,
18:44or not giving away a free kick within 80 yards of your goal.
18:55But controlling a counter-attack is something you are having tools for,
19:00and that's also why I think we've done that part of our game not too bad.
19:05We haven't conceded that many counter-attacks,
19:07and I don't know if we're still the team,
19:09but we were for a long time the team with the most ball possession.
19:14So, yeah, then controlling the counter-attack is something that you can do,
19:19and we've done that quite well, in my opinion, in general.
19:24So, yeah, you have to adjust to what's new,
19:28and what is new is mainly in the Premier League the set-piece part.
19:34Last one up.
19:35Just generally, on that piece,
19:36what do you make of that reliance across the Premier League?
19:39I mean, you said it's a new reality,
19:40but it's actually working for units and meets,
19:43but is that a concern for you in terms of that football?
19:47Is that a concern for you in terms of football?
19:52First of all, you have to accept.
19:54I think it's mainly here in the Premier League.
19:56If I watch other leagues, I don't think there's so much emphasis on set-pieces.
20:03One of the reasons is, and that's sometimes funny for me to do,
20:06if I watch an Eredivisie game, which I still do,
20:08I see goals being disallowed or falls on goalkeepers being given.
20:14I'm like, wow, that's a big difference.
20:17Here you can almost hit a goalkeeper in his face,
20:20and the referee still says, just go on.
20:25Do I like it?
20:27My football heart doesn't like it.
20:29I already said once in this press conference,
20:32if you ask me, thinking about football,
20:36I think about 10-15 years ago about the Barcelona team,
20:38every Sunday evening you were hoping that they would play.
20:42Now most of the games I see in the Premier League are not, for me, a joy to watch.
20:48But it's always interesting because it's so competitive,
20:50and that is what makes this league great,
20:52because there's so much competitiveness,
20:54everyone can win from everyone.
20:56But just as someone who loves to watch football,
21:00without being interested in who's winning or losing,
21:02just to be enjoyed,
21:04I think there's a big difference now between three or four years ago in the Premier League.
21:09Not only because of the set-pieces,
21:12but also because teams have become so much stronger.
21:15So three or four years ago, when the top clubs faced the number 18-17, 16-15,
21:20it could have been a four or five goals difference.
21:22And that's usually what you like,
21:24if there's so much difference between the teams,
21:26then one team is really good.
21:28But that's not the situation anymore,
21:30so it's not only about the set-pieces,
21:32it's also because so many teams have become very strong.
21:37But we're not going to change it,
21:39and maybe in five or ten years' time things will change again.
21:42But what I wouldn't be surprised of,
21:45if you go to an under-16 game somewhere,
21:47you know, how do you call this here, Sunday League football?
21:50We call this amateur football in Holland.
21:52I wouldn't be surprised if you see teams completely be in focus,
21:5516-year-olds on set pieces.
21:57And, yeah, that's the new reality,
22:02and I have my opinion about it, but it doesn't change.
22:05Thanks, guys.
22:06We'll see you next time.
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