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00:08Depensa naman ni dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
00:11ang nagharap ng kanilang argumento ngayong ikatlong araw
00:15ng Confirmation of Charges hearing sa ICC.
00:18Kabilang sa iginiit ng kanyang abogado,
00:21hindi sapat ang hawak na ebedensya ng prosekusyon
00:24para magtuloy ang paglilitis ang reklamo.
00:27Mula pa rin sa The Hague, nakatutok live si Maris Umali.
00:31Maris!
00:34Vicky, ngayon ngang ikatlong araw ng Confirmation of Charges hearing
00:38para sa mga kasong kinakaharap ni dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
00:42dito sa International Criminal Court.
00:44Ang depensa ang naglatag ng kanilang mga ebedensya at argumento
00:49kung bakit dapat daw i-dismiss ng Pre-Trial Chamber 1 ng ICC
00:54ang tinawag nilang politically motivated charges
00:57laban kay dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte
00:59at kung bakit hindi daw dapat ito makumpirma
01:02at tumuloy sa isang trial proper.
01:04Palala pa ni Defense Lead Council Attorney Nicholas Kaufman,
01:08walang kailangang patunayan ang depensa
01:10dahil ang burden of proof
01:11o burden of proof
01:12ay nasa prosekusyon.
01:18Giit ni Kaufman, hindi sapat ang hawak na ebedensya ng prosekusyon
01:22para litisin ang dating Pangulo ng Crimes Against Humanity of Murder
01:26and Attempted Murder para sa mga pagpatay sa madugong drug war
01:29nung Mayor Pashanang Davao City hanggang naging Pangulo ng Pilipinas.
01:33Sabi ni Kaufman, wala raw dahilan para dalhin si Duterte sa ICC
01:38kundi lang dahil sa nakagugulat na pananalita nito.
01:41Pero ang mga talumpati ni Duterte
01:43na ginagamit laban sa kanya
01:45hindi raw nagpapakita ng criminal intent
01:47at sa jarro pinili ng prosekusyon
01:50ang gagamitin sample sa korte
01:51para umakma sa kanilang naratibo.
01:54At hindi nito pinansin
01:55ang mas marami raw na pahayag ni Duterte
01:57na nagdidiin sa prinsipyo ng self-defense
02:00na naaayon sa batas.
02:02Sa dalawang speeches daw na ipinresenta ng prosekusyon,
02:05nakakita ang depensa ng 35
02:07na nagpapakita ng paghimok ni Duterte
02:10sa mga alagad ng batas na sumunod sa batas.
02:13Nagbigay si Kaufman ng mga ehemplo.
02:15Let's look at what the deputy prosecutor
02:17didn't state from the same speech.
02:21And the order is simply this.
02:24Go out.
02:25Arrest them if you can.
02:27But if there is no peaceful method of doing it
02:29and you are presented with violent resistance
02:31thereby placing your jeopardy in your life,
02:34you shoot.
02:36Well, the son of the b***h.
02:38Mr Duterte's language, obviously,
02:41but nevertheless an exhortation
02:42to lawful self-defense.
02:44Once again on shielding criminal agents
02:46from prosecution.
02:48And I quote.
02:50But if you do your duty,
02:52do not worry about cases.
02:54I'll protect you.
02:55Believe me.
02:57That's why I will protect them.
02:58And if there's somebody who will go to jail,
03:00it's me.
03:01I will assume full legal responsibility.
03:05Now let's have a look
03:06at the exonerating element
03:08which comes right underneath
03:11the allegedly incriminating element.
03:16He said,
03:17just do it right.
03:18We have our trainings
03:20that you can only kill
03:22if your life is in danger.
03:24And you are there
03:25performing the duty of a law enforcer.
03:27Sa mapa namang inilabas
03:29ng prosekusyon
03:30para ipakitang malawakan
03:31ang naging pagpatay
03:32sa Pilipinas
03:32at sa Davao,
03:34sinabi ni Kaufman
03:35na wala rong naguugnay
03:36sa mga incidenteng ito
03:37sa extrajudicial killing.
03:39Kinuontra rin ni Kaufman
03:40ang sinasabi ng prosekusyon
03:41na ang mga pagpatay
03:43ay nakadirekta
03:43sa populasyon
03:44ng Pilipinas.
03:45Ang katwiran niya,
03:46ang target ay limitado
03:48sa isang grupo lamang
03:49ng mga umano'y kriminal.
03:50How does one define
03:52a suspected drug pusher
03:54or suspected criminal
03:56for the purposes
03:57that are say of count one?
03:59It is not as if
04:00criminals have identifying features
04:02such as a shifty look
04:04or a five o'clock shadow
04:05or a sack marked swag.
04:09In other words,
04:10the definition
04:11suspected drug pusher
04:12or suspected criminal
04:14entails the exercise
04:16of discretion
04:17on the part
04:18of the perpetrator
04:20implementing
04:21the organisational policy.
04:23In our submission,
04:25there has to be
04:26at the very least
04:27an objectively
04:29discernible characteristic
04:30which unites
04:32the members
04:33of the targeted group
04:34such that they can be deemed
04:36a civilian population
04:37for the purpose
04:38of the attack.
04:39Leaving the determination
04:41of membership
04:42of a civilian population
04:43to the people
04:45who pulled the trigger
04:46introduces a degree
04:48of random selection.
04:50The prosecution
04:51must prove
04:53that the attack
04:54was not directed
04:55against a limited group
04:57of randomly selected persons.
05:00Dagdag ni Kaufman,
05:02hindi raw naiugnay
05:03ng prosekusyon
05:04ng mga sinabi ni Duterte
05:05tungkol sa paghabol
05:06sa mga kriminal
05:07at sa aktual na pagpatay
05:08sa kanila.
05:09It is not enough
05:10simply to assert
05:12that Rodrigo Duterte
05:13said outrageous things
05:16and that deaths occurred
05:17and so,
05:19as a result,
05:20he must be criminally
05:21responsible.
05:22The prosecution
05:23has to show
05:24which one of Duterte's
05:25statements,
05:27orders,
05:28or commands
05:28were given
05:30to a specific individual
05:31who then went out
05:33and pulled the trigger
05:35or communicated
05:37the command
05:37to someone else
05:39who also went out
05:40and pulled the trigger
05:41killing one
05:43of its 78
05:44identified victims.
05:48That
05:49would have been
05:50the classical way
05:51to prove
05:51a causal link
05:52between stuff
05:54that came out
05:55of Rodrigo Duterte's mouth
05:57and the deaths
05:59pertinent
06:00to the case.
06:01Ang sinasabi ng depensa,
06:03wala raw nakuha
06:04ang prosekusyon
06:04na witness
06:05na nagsasabing narinig
06:06nila mismo si Duterte
06:07na nagutos ng pagpatay
06:09taugnay ng mga incidenteng
06:10tinukoy ng prosekusyon
06:11sa kanilang akosasyon.
06:13There is no smoking gun
06:15in this case.
06:16Not one witness
06:18relevant
06:19to any of the 49 incidents
06:21with which Mr. Rodrigo Duterte
06:23is charged
06:24will testify
06:25that he received
06:26a direct order
06:28from the former president
06:29to go out
06:30and kill someone.
06:36Yan nga, Vicky,
06:37exactly yung sinasabi
06:39at ginigiit ng depensa
06:41na nabiguraw
06:42ang prosekusyon
06:43na patunayan
06:44na ang mga murder
06:45na naganap
06:45ay bilang resulta
06:46ng direktang utos
06:48ni dating Pangulong
06:49Rodrigo Duterte
06:50at sapat na raw ito
06:51para kumbinsihin
06:52ang pre-trial chamber 1
06:54na inosente si Duterte.
06:55Hindi raw na-establish
06:56ng prosekusyon
06:57na may common plan
06:58sa pagitan
06:59ng suspect
07:00at ng mga
07:01co-perpetrators
07:02na nauna na rin
07:03binanggit
07:03sa proceedings na ito
07:05na may mutual plan
07:07silang napagkasunduan
07:09at may criminal intent.
07:10Lahat daw
07:10ng circumstantial evidence
07:11ay mababang kalidad
07:13ayon sa depensa.
07:15At complete fiction
07:16lang din daw
07:17ang Davao Death Squad
07:18tila eksena
07:19na kinuha raw
07:19sa pelikulang
07:21Godfather
07:22na parang
07:23si Duterte raw
07:23ang ginawang bida
07:25sa pelikula
07:26kung saan
07:27pinagbidahan
07:28ni Al Pacino.
07:28Pinabulaanan din
07:30ang depensa
07:30ang lahat
07:31ng binanggit
07:32ng prosekusyon
07:33na common plan
07:34gaya na lamang
07:34ng command circular
07:35ni PNP chief
07:37Bato de la Rosa
07:38na siya'y gawing
07:39nung siya
07:40maging PNP chief
07:41na naguutos
07:42ng Oplan Tukhang
07:43taken out of context
07:44daw ito.
07:44Pinalabas daw ito
07:45ng prosekusyon
07:46na utos
07:46para targetin
07:47ang mga suspect
07:49o sangkot sa droga
07:50pero ang totoo raw
07:51ang ibig sabihin
07:52ng Tukop
07:53o PNP
07:53ay knock and plead.
07:55At pinunariin
07:56ang depensang
07:57paggamit ng prosekusyon
07:58sa salitang neutralization
08:00o bilang euphemism
08:02o pinagandang salita
08:04para sa murder.
08:05Sa ngayon Vicky
08:06ay nagpapatuloy na
08:07ang second session
08:09ng confirmation of charges hearing
08:11ibig sabihin
08:11nagpapatuloy din
08:12ang paglalatag
08:14ng mga argumento
08:15ng depensa.
08:16Ngayong buong araw
08:17ay nakalaan
08:17para sa depensa
08:18since meron silang
08:19three and a half hours
08:20para magbigay
08:21ng kanilang mga argumento
08:23hindi lang
08:24ngayon matatapos
08:25ang kanilang
08:26paglalatag ng argumento
08:27hanggang bukas yan
08:29ay makakapagbigay pa sila
08:31ng kanilang mga argumento
08:32at pagkatapos nito
08:34ay magkoclosing statement
08:36na ang prosekusyon
08:39ang depensa
08:40at ang CLRV bukas
08:41pero ayon naman
08:42sa abogado
08:43ng mga biktima
08:44na si Atty. Gilbert Andres
08:46ay handa sila sa rebuttal
08:47sa mga sasabihin
08:48ng depensa
08:49bukas.
08:50Yan muna
08:50ang pinakasariwang sitwasyon
08:52mula pa rin dito
08:53sa Media Center
08:54na International Criminal Court.
08:55Balik sa'yo Vicky.
08:56Maraming salamat sa'yo
08:57Mariz Umali.
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