00:00One more round and the ship will sink, but the short one was very strong too, starting the eighth round,
00:06He bit his lip, but more than anything, he bit himself, he bit himself, so they wouldn't let him out anymore.
00:13And from the pot he defeated our idol, the great Mexican champion, for the second time, but not for that reason Oscar
00:21I didn't like it, no, no, it's a sport, you win some, you lose some, of course it hurt.
00:27Well, that defeat didn't hurt him here, of course, I couldn't sleep, because it was Chávez, Chávez, Chávez, I grew up with
00:34Chávez, and then I had to deal with that transition in the pot, of course it hurt, it hurt a lot, even the
00:40My marrow hurt so much, I couldn't sleep, my dad, well, we were with Chávez, right?
00:47Our champion, our idol, well yes, no, the truth is, I didn't sleep, because Chávez, no, I was in shock.
00:53Chávez, what do you mean, Chávez?
00:56I had already seen her lose against Randall and everything, but I was a little older, more aware and all,
01:01And I didn't ask to have it, right? Like Chávez and all that? I didn't sleep, but that didn't make me fall for it.
01:06plus the gifts, and what's more, I supported him afterwards,
01:08I was involved in that transition, in the department, but of course it hurt us, because Chávez was, he was Chávez, he was the idol,
01:15the only one who has brought Mexico to a standstill, the only athlete who has brought Mexico to a standstill.
01:21Of course, also the elite, the politicians of Mexico, Chávez, Chávez, don't stop fighting, Chávez, don't stop fighting, Chávez,
01:29Don't stop fighting, Chávez, don't stop fighting.
01:34I had, I had a relationship with Carlos Salinas, don't stop fighting, Chávez, because you're distracting the people, they're going with you, and
01:42Politicians say, we can do our dirty tricks,
01:45It was also a distraction, it was, don't stop fighting, Chávez, don't stop fighting, don't stop, like you
01:52Don't mess with the king, don't stop fighting, don't stop fighting,
01:56so that people would leave with those things, and the politicians were making deals.
02:04So, Chávez was a distraction; he had an excellent relationship with politicians, they loved him very much, but he helped them, it must be said.
02:11That's just how it is.
02:13that a letter arrived from the drug traffickers before the second fight, saying, if you don't
02:21You let us win, we're coming for you, Oscar de la Hoya,
02:25Pretty boy, the drug traffickers of Mexico, if you don't let yourself get lost, we're coming for you.
02:34Over your head.
02:35And another letter, from Ernesto Cerillo, says Chávez must win the second fight, this was in the second one.
02:43From the pot he said, uh, well, who should I listen to, look, I'm like this, I get a letter from the drug traffickers,
02:48Otherwise, I'll let myself lose against Chávez, the second time.
02:52This was in the second fight, before the second fight.
02:55Hey, hold on, in the second fight, hey, a letter from the drug traffickers, if you don't lose to our
03:03Hey, if you don't lose to Chávez, we're coming for your head.
03:07And then Ernesto Cerillo, Chávez must win, Oscar.
03:14Damn, imagine.
03:16Uh, and Ernesto Cerillo was the one who, and then Ernesto Cerillo also left Chávez.
03:20There's that, he doesn't pay taxes, that, what with the tax issues and all that mess.
03:28But Carlos Salinas did love Chávez very much.
03:31And then Ernesto Cerillo told him that Chávez doesn't pay taxes, and that fiscal matters, etc., etc., etc.
03:37Okay, so, uh, this is it, Moral, Rómulo Quirar, I said that Mexicans are bastards, those from Mexico and those from
03:45Monterrey, fast.
03:46Barrera really angers Morales, Barrera really angers Morales, I said about the mischievous Arce.
03:53He has an excellent relationship with Morales, the mischievous Arce, Jorge Arce.
03:58What did I tell them? They were making fun of the naughty Maple, they were laughing at the naughty Maple.
04:03Those people from Mazaclan, that's not how it's done.
04:06No, they were disrespecting him.
04:09It's not just banter, jokes, no, it's humiliation, it's disrespect, it's aggression.
04:15But that's how Mexicans are, a barrier.
04:17Barrera and Morales cannot work together.
04:20They started going, they started working on one more round, this YouTube channel.
04:26One more round, they started working and were saying things to each other.
04:30More barriers for Morales, like they have video footage of him.
04:32More barriers for Morales.
04:35But Morales defended himself.
04:38And they told the owners, Morales said, I'll do all the work, this guy just sits back and I'll...
04:44I'm looking for ex-boxers and stuff, and this guy just sits here.
04:49But I'm looking, I'm working, I'm screwed, that's what Morales told him.
04:54But they don't get along, they started working together and now they work, they continue working, there in one more round.
05:03But each one on his own, Morales gets his guests and Barrera does the same.
05:11Barrera also gets his guests, but separately.
05:15But they started working together, in one more round.
05:17But they don't get along.
05:19Barrera is a bastard.
05:21Barrera is always pecking at him, bothering him; he's envious.
05:23When Márquez, when Márquez knocked out Pacquiao, the fourth fight.
05:33Barrera is envious.
05:35Barrera was there on Aztec soil.
05:37And everyone gets two.
05:38Márquez, what a knockout by Márquez to the Filipino, to the Tagalog.
05:44What a knockout.
05:45And Barrera, Marco Antonio Barrera, the kid with the killer face, wanting to copy Oscar de la Olla.
05:52The Golden Boy, after they named him the Golden Boy, the golden boy.
05:56Many, with the face of a killer child and Barrera.
06:01The boy with the killer face.
06:04But ever since he got that nickname, they've been putting Oscar de la Olla, the Golden Boy, there.
06:09The golden boy, for the gold medal he won in Barcelona 92.
06:14He earned the nickname of the Golden Boy.
06:16The golden child, the golden child.
06:18And then everyone wanted to put, boy, boy, boy, Barrera.
06:22The boy with the killer face.
06:25The killer with the baby face.
06:26The killer with the baby face.
06:28The killer with the baby face.
06:30But after Oscar de la Olla, everyone wanted to call him "boy, boy, boy," his nicknames.
06:34Child, child, child, child.
06:35Then they called Marco Antonio Barrera the killer with the baby face.
06:40But after they put Oscar, the Golden Boy, in charge, Barrera, the baby-faced killer.
06:47Well, then he knocked him out, I love the thrill, Márquez knocked out Pacquiao, the Filipino, the Tagalog.
06:56And Barrera, very serious, and all shouting.
06:59And Barrera, very serious.
07:00And Barrera, supposedly, what Barrera says is that I didn't see it.
07:05I was here, I didn't know what had happened.
07:07Envy, envy.
07:08And it itches him a lot.
07:10In other words, it itches him, it bothers him a lot.
07:13Barrier to Morales.
07:15He's making fun of him.
07:17That's when they invited the four greats of Mexican boxing.
07:20Julio, Márquez, Morales and Barrera.
07:24He told him, Barrera told Morales.
07:28No, imagine Julio, if I hit him, not just in the last ten seconds of the rounds.
07:34If I hit him for three minutes, I'll disfigure Morales.
07:39Imagine, Julio, if I hit him for three minutes, I won't just hit him for the last ten rounds,
07:47I disfigure Morales.
07:49And Morales told me, calm down, calm down, calm down.
07:52He gestured to you.
07:53That's how Mexicans are.
07:55Do you want another example?
07:56Rómulo Quirarte!
07:59Extraordinary coach!
08:02Extraordinary!
08:04Mexican, from Guadalajara, but has been in Tijuana for a while.
08:07He managed Chávez, but he didn't go to the fights.
08:11Few fights outside.
08:13The one who was going was Martin the Buffalo.
08:15The Buffalo Martin, Spanish.
08:17José Martín, who died in his native Spain, in a car accident.
08:23José Martín, who brought his manelso.
08:26José Martín, the Buffalo.
08:28And I also wanted to train Oscar Relado well.
08:30But he passed away in '97.
08:32By '98, Rómulo Quirarte was no longer there.
08:36This world had already departed.
08:38Rómulo Quirarte was on the corner of Chávez, of J.C.
08:43And in the first one, José Martín, the Buffalo.
08:47Coaching Chavez, in Chavez's corner, against De La Hoya.
08:51He was on the corner of Buffalo Martin, Jose Martin.
08:55He had already died in the second fight.
08:57Then he was on the corner of Rómulo Quirarte, on the corner of Chávez, against Oscar Relado in La Hoya.
09:01Rómulo Quirarte was in Chávez's corner in the second round against De La Hoya.
09:06But in the first one was the Spaniard, José Martín, the Buffalo.
09:09The Buffalo was there with Chávez for a long time.
09:12In the golden age, in those fights against Macho Camacho, José Martín was there.
09:20That fight against Macho Camacho, José Martín.
09:27Against Foggen was José Martín, the Buffalo.
09:35Many have many arguments with Chávez.
09:37And he was also in Azuma Nelson's corner.
09:40Azuma Nelson!
09:41What a fighter she was!
09:43Salvador Fánchez beat him.
09:45Azuma Nelson!
09:45And then Azuma Nelson, boom!
09:47Well, then, this African, Azuma Nelson.
09:51José Martín, representative of Spanish boxing.
09:55Long live Spain!
09:57Castillejo too.
09:58Well, Caesar's, Caesar's.
10:00So, José Martín, Rómulo Quirarte, sometimes not, many times Chávez prepared it with Búfalo Martín, Rómulo Quirarte
10:09and Buffalo Martin.
10:10But Rómulo Quirarte said, I'm not going, you go, José Martín, Búfalo, to Chávez's fight.
10:17I'm staying here.
10:18He didn't like the spotlight that much.
10:21To be there in the spotlight.
10:22He was calmer, Rómulo Quirarte.
10:24No, you go to Chávez's fight, there's too much spectacle, too much drama, you won't be able to get through, Chávez
10:29It's a Buffalo, it pulls a lot of people.
10:31No, I'm staying here.
10:32I'll prepare it, but you watch the fight, José Martín.
10:37And he arrived in Tijuana from Guadalajara.
10:40The Quirarte family is from Jalisco.
10:42To Tijuana, Rómulo Quirarte.
10:44What's going on here?
10:45Okay, I'm going to say this.
10:48It was the first.
10:49Chávez arrived, the brothers arrived with Rómulo Quirarte in Tijuana.
10:54And then came Chávez, Julio César.
10:57But first came the brothers.
10:58And they were trained by Rómulo Quirarte in Tijuana.
11:02He was training Rodolfo Chávez.
11:04And then Julio arrived in Tijuana.
11:09To Mr. Rómulo Quirarte's gym.
11:14And there's an anecdote.
11:15Chávez traveled for many hours by truck from Culiacán to Tijuana.
11:22And I said to him, "What happened, kid?"
11:23I'm Rodolfo's brother and all.
11:26And I've come here to...
11:27I'm going to be world champion and this.
11:29Wait for me, wait for me, wait for me.
11:31First, let's eat some tacos.
11:33You're coming...
11:34Look at how you are.
11:35You haven't eaten, have you?
11:36You haven't eaten.
11:37No, I haven't eaten, sir.
11:38I've been on the bus for many hours.
11:41No, first let's have some tacos.
11:43Come here.
11:44And then you'll be world champion.
11:45But he arrived very thin.
11:49Chávez humble, poorly dressed.
11:51Well, with faded pants.
11:54Rodolfo tells that story, this Rómulo Quirarte, that anecdote.
11:57I was the first one to open the doors for Chávez.
12:00I'm going to be world champion.
12:01He told her, no, wait for me.
12:01Then we're going to be world champions.
12:02Then you'll be world champion.
12:03Let's eat some tacos.
12:05He was very thin.
12:10Humble, the jeans, the denim, faded.
12:13Then you'll be world champion.
12:14But first, let's have some tacos.
12:17And Chávez was always grateful.
12:19Rómulo Quirarte said.
12:20Chávez always paid me very well.
12:22He always helped me.
12:24Chávez helped people a lot.
12:26Chávez helped people a lot.
12:28They took advantage of the bastard.
12:30Scumbag Mexicans.
12:32Chávez gave away microwaves and refrigerators.
12:35Chávez, there in the villages, like the drug traffickers of old.
12:39Now they are hitmen.
12:40Like Felix Gallardo.
12:42Like Amado Carrillo.
12:47Caro Quintero.
12:48They helped people a lot.
12:49They did bad things.
12:50Put the drugs in and everything.
12:52Everything is the United States.
12:54Everything is the United States.
12:55All of them in the United States.
12:55The cartels and everything.
12:56It's a town.
12:57A work of dialogue.
12:59But, as Chávez says, the drug traffickers were very good people.
13:03These are hitmen.
13:04They were going in like the most Italian of people.
13:06The regulations.
13:09That's where things started in Italy.
13:12Well, they had their rules.
13:14We don't mess with family.
13:17Not even the Mexicans copied it.
13:19We don't mess with family.
13:20Just you and me.
13:22If there's a problem, it's between you and me.
13:23Family is to be respected.
13:24Nothing with ordinary people.
13:27Then, Chávez got to know Amado Carrillo, Alguero Palma, and Félix Gallardo.
13:34Félix Gallardo was already in jail.
13:37When Chávez took off.
13:40The boss of bosses.
13:41Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo.
13:43Although they say that the boss of bosses was Neto Fonseca.
13:46Ernesto Fonseca.
13:47Amado Carrillo's uncle.
13:50He must have asked me for a source.
13:52But he helped people a lot.
13:54Just like Chávez.
13:56They went to the villages.
13:58Parmadas.
13:59Of pickup trucks.
14:00Trucks.
14:01And giving beans.
14:03Eggs.
14:03Eggs.
14:04Not only that.
14:06Televisions.
14:07Refrigerators.
14:09Microwave.
14:10Drug traffickers and Chávez.
14:12Chávez met them.
14:14It was a different kind of society.
14:16It was a different kind of society.
14:17We're talking about the eighties.
14:19The late eighties and all.
14:22Early nineties.
14:22That's why Chávez always sees him in a positive light.
14:25Romulo Quirarte says.
14:26Chávez always paid me very well.
14:28She is a very grateful person.
14:30It may have its own character.
14:31But very grateful.
14:32I received him.
14:33At my camp.
14:34In my gym.
14:36I received it at my gym.
14:37I already had his brothers.
14:38And then he came.
14:39He was little.
14:41Skinny.
14:41His pants were faded.
14:43His jeans.
14:44I'm going to be world champion.
14:45He said no.
14:45Then you'll be world champion.
14:47We're going to get some tacos right now.
14:48And Chávez from there.
14:49That's what Romulus Quirarte remembers.
14:51He was a world champion.
14:53He always helped me.
14:54He paid me very well.
14:55It was never taken advantage of.
14:56Those are people who are worthwhile.
14:57Like the great Mexican champion.
14:59JC.
15:00Julio César Chávez.
15:02Gonzalez.
15:04The great Mexican champion.
15:06Those are people who are worthwhile.
15:07That's why he'll never do badly.
15:09You helped me.
15:10Romulo Quirarte.
15:11I will always help you.
15:12Because you opened the doors for me.
15:13The first one.
15:14In trusting me.
15:16Me too.
15:17Here I'll be.
15:18And Romulo Quirarte.
15:19He was there too.
15:20At the corner of Yoriboy Campas.
15:22Also very good.
15:23Yoriboy Campas.
15:23A very strong hit.
15:24The pot won.
15:26With Trinidad.
15:27I put up a good fight.
15:28Yoriboy Campas.
15:30But then Trinity.
15:31He finished it.
15:35In the sixth round.
15:36If I'm not mistaken.
15:37But there it was.
15:38Yoriboy Campas.
15:39Fighting Trinidad.
15:40He gave him some good blows.
15:42And all.
15:42Against the pot.
15:43Well.
15:44No.
15:45There was nothing he could do.
15:46Yoriboy Campas.
15:47From Sonora.
15:48Yoriboy Campas.
15:49I had many fights.
15:49Like 110.
15:51Fights 108.
15:52From Navajo.
15:55In Navajo to Sonora.
15:57In Navajo to Sonora.
15:59Yoriboy Campas.
15:59Also.
16:00He was there.
16:01I didn't train.
16:02The Lord.
16:03Rómulo Quirarte.
16:04And with that I'll finish.
16:05And with that I'll finish.
16:07So you can see.
16:07Of the Mexicans.
16:08They're bastards.
16:09Those from Mexico.
16:10The ones from Monterrey.
16:11Rómulo Quirarte.
16:12Almost crying.
16:13Said.
16:13No.
16:14I.
16:14I never liked it.
16:15The arena.
16:16Me too.
16:17I went low on skates.
16:18And he said.
16:19Rómulo Quirarte.
16:20But many people.
16:21He took advantage of me.
16:23He didn't pay me.
16:24What they should have paid me.
16:27Many people.
16:28No.
16:28Chávez no.
16:29Chávez always.
16:29He said.
16:30No.
16:30Chávez always paid me.
16:31Very good.
16:31And he continues to help me.
16:33But.
16:34Other boxers.
16:37Promoters.
16:39They took advantage of me.
16:41And I was younger.
16:43And I was younger.
16:44And they told me.
16:45Well, here's something for you.
16:46Well yes.
16:46I accept it.
16:48When I should have earned more.
16:50When I should have earned more.
16:52But they took advantage of me.
16:54Some boxers.
16:55No Chávez.
16:56Chávez never took advantage.
16:58Some promoters.
17:01And I was saying.
17:02Well.
17:02Well yes.
17:02I'll take that money.
17:04Well, whatever they want to give me.
17:05But I should have earned more.
17:07They took advantage of me.
17:08And she almost cried.
17:09That's why.
17:11They are not grateful here.
17:12That's why.
17:13They're always sunk.
17:15Long live Julio Cáceres Chávez González.
17:17And long live the Lord.
17:18Rómulo Quirarte.
17:19The great coach.
17:20Thank you.
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