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00:00But Tarzana was a great player, a great player, long hair and all blond, but a great player, one of the best that has played here, in this nascent league, football faded, Tarzana and Salomone, then it was America, America, Cruz Azul, America, Chivas, Cruz Azul and Pumas, America, Chivas, Cruz Azul and Pumas.
00:27And then León came in, so people only saw those teams, they could only see those teams, and so they developed a love for Chivas, for the champion team and all that, for the people's team with only Mexicans, the nostalgia, and for América, "hate me more," at that time there wasn't that slogan, "hate me more," the rich and the Chivas fans, the people's team, the champion team, the nostalgia of them playing with only Mexicans.
00:57And then León came in, so people could only see those teams.
01:03I mean, I take them to school, hand in hand, I take them to school hand in hand, I take them hand in hand, I take them to school hand in hand, that's why I said to the four big ones.
01:12So, look, Alvarito Morales, the other day I was there listening to him with Tuca Ferrete, and Álvaro Morales is one of the best, he's a showman, he just knows that everything is a game and so he's going to have fun.
01:26But he does say some true things from time to time, like about Messi, but he knows it's a game, that everything is rigged, so, he's a showman.
01:36And he said, he said to Tuca, Tuca, did you know Mexican soccer? Did you really know Mexican soccer?
01:43Well, when you arrived, because Tuca Ferrete arrived at Atlas, and then he went to Monterrey, to the Rayados, at that time the gang, and then to Pumas, that great goal against America.
01:58Then, Tuca said, of course he knew Mexican football, wasn't he, Tuca, Álvaro Morales, don't lie to me, you didn't know Mexican football, and Tuca, if he didn't know Mexican football, of course he did, of course he did, why?
02:14He came to play against Mexican teams, because before, I take him from school, hearts, because before, before, Europe wasn't the panacea, it wasn't Barcelona, it wasn't Madrid, you know?
02:28Also, the panacea was South American football, let Santo from Brazil come, let River Plate from Argentina come, obviously, well there is a River Plate from Uruguay, but let Santo from Brazil come, River Plate from Argentina, Boca, Nacional from Uruguay, Peñarol, it was the panacea, Flamengo, Vasco da Gama, Santo from Brazil, I repeat, it was the panacea.
02:58Botafogo, Mineiro, were the panacea that came to play here, they weren't from Europe, they were South Americans, and Mexico wasn't there, it didn't compete in Conmebol, it wasn't there, it didn't compete in Libertadores, Sudamericana, Copa América, no.
03:16Well, then, speaking of many years ago, the panacea wasn't the teams from the old continent, it was the South American teams, that's why Tuca didn't lie, of course he knew Mexican football, I came to play against teams from Mexico, I already knew Mexican football, and Álvaro Morales, that's not true, don't lie to me, yes he knew him, of course, of course Tuca Ferretti knew him.
03:40Okay, getting back to the topic, then, four, four, four, four big ones, and the Lion got in, with Tarzan Davino and Salomone.
03:49But, you still see a centralism, even though they say there isn't one, you still see, the commentators there, they wanted Toluca to win, biased, they wanted Toluca to win, I put them there on TV Azteca, and then I switched to Televisa, they wanted Toluca to win, and this is not new, I'm not discovering the black thread, a divided country, a divided country, in everything, in everything.
04:19Balkanized.
04:24For example, the north survives, and the south is starving.
04:29Mexico is already Balkanized from a socio-economic point of view, and now it's happening in this area too, because football is a reflection of peoples, of societies; it helps us measure the waters between beans.
04:41Measuring the water for sweet potatoes, the water for beans, helps us to measure the water for beans, measure the water for sweet potatoes.
04:51It's about having a kind of diagnosis of how the towns and societies are, Mexico divided in every way,
04:57Balkanized from a socio-economic point of view, the north survives, the south is starving,
05:02And in football, those from the center only want to win themselves, they don't want us to win, they only want our team to win, the ones from here, the ones from the center.
05:12And those from the north, Monterrey, Tigres, Santos, Tijuana, may our teams win, the ones from the north!
05:22And those from the center, let our team win, the ones from the center, I mean, you see it in the broadcasts, Mario, what's his name?
05:32Mario Castillejos, who disagreed with some things, said that the Tigers were a bunch of bricklayers,
05:38And the striped ones were on another level, and then he was president of Tigres, they didn't like him, and he only lasted 24 hours.
05:44And he left; his father worked for the striped ones, at that time the gang, Mario Castillejo Valle,
05:52She had a heart attack there, she was at the gym, she died a few years ago, she passed away several years ago.
06:00He had a heart attack; there he was at the gym, saying things that were sometimes interesting, and other times, stupid things.
06:07that made, that separated, that divided, made fight, for example, the Tigers are the bricklayers,
06:15And the striped ones are on another level, but the one who's worse off is Don Roberto Hernández Jr., Don Robert,
06:23a pause and we return, that it wasn't even from, at least Mario Castillejo was from Monterrey,
06:28Don Roberto, Don Robert, was from Guanajuato, he worked at Televisa, and then he came to Monterrey.
06:35She found it easy, she found it ready-made, they're really stupid, wherever I'm going to put them to sleep,
06:40and he just made people fight, and he started going to Monterrey,
06:44Many people don't know this, Don Robert started it, a pause and we'll return, he started it,
06:49When he arrived in Monterrey, he began to support the Rayados, at that time the gang,
06:54And then he went to the Tigers, as they say, a turncoat, because, well, money.
07:00Well, there are sources, it's documented that he received it, he was on the Tigres' payroll,
07:07But he started going, supporting them, the Monterrey gang,
07:12Now they're striped, and then they switched to Tigres, and they made people fight.
07:15He was worse than Mario Castillejos, and they had a falling out.
07:19And Toño Nelly, the Uruguayan, but a lifelong resident, arrived here when he was very little,
07:24At around four years old, Toño Nelly was already Mexican.
07:27He's already a naturalized citizen; he arrived very young, but he was born in Uruguay, in Montevideo.
07:33But what's going on? Don Robert, not even from Monterrey,
07:39He was at Televisa, and then he came to Monterrey, the "Sultana of the North".
07:43To my beautiful Sultana of the North, beautiful and beloved Sultana of the North,
07:49Play me the corrido, the city in the mountains,
07:53From Cerro de la Silla, we are the best at everything,
07:57Well, then, he was blaming the guys from Torreón,
08:01That's why, when people go from Monterrey to Torreón,
08:04Even the police beat them, they throw stones and sticks at them.
08:08But it was because of Don Robert, the Santos fans,
08:11They're something else, they have a stadium full of,
08:14That city is full of dirt,
08:16Their stadium is falling apart,
08:18and he also went against the people of Tamaulipas,
08:21Tampico, that stinking port,
08:25those from Victoria, villagers,
08:28He caused what is happening today in Monterrey.
08:31Because Monterrey wasn't like this before.
08:34Monterrey was always civilized,
08:35so you can see,
08:37Monterrey, the fans,
08:39It's already broken down.
08:40But first,
08:42There were more of them,
08:43were,
08:44The fans in Monterrey weren't like this before.
08:47They were taking their little girl,
08:50There was no problem,
08:52The tigers and the striped ones sat there,
08:54to drink beer and everything,
08:55That's no longer possible.
08:57That's no longer possible.
08:58and who was responsible,
09:01who was responsible,
09:03the person most responsible for that problem,
09:06of that phenomenon,
09:07of that sad phenomenon,
09:15of that problem,
09:17who was responsible,
09:18mostly,
09:20Don Robert,
09:21So I was telling the guys from Tigres,
09:23First it happened to the Monterrey team,
09:25and then he switched to the tigers,
09:27No, those from Monterrey,
09:28and this one and the other,
09:29I was telling them things,
09:30and then he jumped,
09:33broke down borders,
09:34He was going with those from Coahuila,
09:36about that city full of dirt,
09:39The stadium is falling apart.
09:41the old Corona,
09:43They weren't playing,
09:44The warriors didn't play games,
09:46where they're playing right now,
09:47They play in that stadium that used to be,
09:49man,
09:50It was a very difficult customs checkpoint,
09:53the stadium was,
09:53The people were there,
09:54in the corners and everything,
09:57I liked it better,
09:58there the old Corona,
10:00the one right now,
10:01The one right now isn't even full.
10:02Very few people go,
10:05but in the old Corona,
10:08Yeah,
10:09He was very old,
10:09Okay,
10:10the stadium,
10:11near the airport,
10:13but,
10:14But it will be for him,
10:16at four in the afternoon,
10:17on Sundays,
10:18by TV Azteca,
10:19the desert fox,
10:20Jerez Borghetti,
10:21Adomaitis,
10:22the Turkish Apud,
10:24de Anda,
10:27Muñoz,
10:30Adrian Martinez,
10:31It was a very difficult customs checkpoint,
10:33and the,
10:33corner kicks,
10:35You had people here,
10:37and then this,
10:38stationary,
10:38May he not rest in peace,
10:40May he not rest in peace,
10:41that it is,
10:42in hell,
10:43where it belongs,
10:44Hey,
10:45those from Torrión,
10:46They are a city,
10:47with,
10:48city full of dirt,
10:50and then,
10:51They broke down borders,
10:51and then he would go with those from Tamaulipas,
10:53those from Tampico,
10:54Log,
10:55Stinky Port,
10:57and then with those from Victoria,
10:58The Road Runners,
10:59Who are those people?
11:00villagers?
11:02Well, this genre,
11:04now,
11:04There they go on television,
11:06They are fighting,
11:07but before that,
11:07the,
11:07the,
11:08The people of Monterrey,
11:09look,
11:09I'm saying it,
11:10so that they may say,
11:11No,
11:11That's just how it is.
11:12The people of Monterrey,
11:14That wasn't the case,
11:15They were going to the stadium,
11:16and they were taking their little girl,
11:17and to friends,
11:18You tigers,
11:19I'm stressed,
11:19to the little bags,
11:20drinking beer,
11:21and there was no problem,
11:23They were more civilized,
11:25than the rest of the country,
11:26not now,
11:27not now,
11:29those of,
11:30Well,
11:32well in what culture,
11:33What joy!
11:34Thank me for that.
11:35those from Tamaulipas,
11:36Yes, they are.
11:36They are very demanding hobbies,
11:38those from Tamaulipas,
11:39Yes, they are hobbies.
11:40That's why they don't have a team in the first division.
11:41Well,
11:41Victoria couldn't,
11:43because there is no money,
11:43There are no companies,
11:45Tampico, yes.
11:45that ends,
11:46that just,
11:47of,
11:47of being champion,
11:48there from the expansion league,
11:50They beat the team from Irapuato,
11:52to the ice makers,
11:53to the strawberry plant,
11:54with pure Mexicans,
11:55those from Tampico,
11:55and with a Mexican coach,
11:57So that it's possible,
11:59But, well,
11:59not what they're going to,
12:00They will not allow it.
12:01Let those from Tamaulipas rise,
12:02They will not allow it.
12:04Victoria couldn't,
12:05because there is no money,
12:06There are no companies,
12:07Tampico, yes.
12:09Tampico,
12:10Altamira,
12:10the Madero area,
12:11the metropolitan area,
12:12There's a little more money in Tampico,
12:14Tampico could,
12:15But they won't let them.
12:16because they are violent,
12:18recently,
12:19about 10 years ago,
12:21in a match,
12:21of the third division,
12:23He's playing there,
12:24Tampico,
12:25against,
12:26I don't know,
12:27Oaxaca,
12:27or Atlas,
12:29I don't remember,
12:30and,
12:31But we make the point,
12:33one from above,
12:33the sale,
12:34a table,
12:34No,
12:35not a chair,
12:36a table,
12:37a table,
12:39please,
12:40how are they going to,
12:40They will allow it.
12:41that have a first-division team,
12:42A riot broke out,
12:44in Victoria,
12:45there in the cup,
12:46when the cup was there,
12:48that was a long time ago,
12:49and then it was suspended,
12:50and they returned to her,
12:51to put,
12:52the MX Cup,
12:53Or have they already removed it?
12:54the MX Cup,
12:56the,
12:58The goats went to play in Victoria,
13:02or America,
13:03America went to play in Victoria,
13:04America went to play in Victoria,
13:08to the Marta Ergómez stadium,
13:10and,
13:11And finally,
13:12They broke the window,
13:15to the truck from America,
13:17and him,
13:17And it makes me laugh a lot,
13:18because they interviewed him,
13:19to whom,
13:20broke the glass,
13:21from the truck of America,
13:23from the America bus,
13:24and they interviewed him,
13:26a young man,
13:27about 15,
13:27and 6 years old,
13:28And he said,
13:29But you got angry,
13:30because America beat Correcaminos,
13:31No,
13:32I don't even follow the Road Runner,
13:34I'm a Chivas fan.
13:35that's why,
13:36I did what I did,
13:37That's why I broke the glass.
13:38from the America bus,
13:41I laughed a lot,
13:42because,
13:42a young boy there,
13:43but,
13:43Why did you do it?
13:44Why did you break the bus?
13:46of the eagles of America?
13:48Did you get angry?
13:49Why did he beat the Road Runner?
13:50No,
13:50I'm a Road Runner fan.
13:51I'm a Chivas fan.
13:53That's why I broke the glass.
13:55from the America bus,
13:56It made me laugh a lot,
13:57when I heard,
13:58oh well,
13:58It is violence.
13:59nothing more than what he said,
14:00It made me laugh a lot,
14:01That's why they won't have a team in the first division.
14:04Victoria couldn't,
14:05neither yes,
14:06oh well,
14:08It must be eradicated.
14:09one has to,
14:11Well, if he says,
14:13eradicate,
14:15violence,
14:17eradicate violence,
14:21but,
14:23but not,
14:24I mean,
14:24the big four,
14:25Pumas, for example,
14:26Pumas already lost,
14:27America is great,
14:29and Cruz Azul,
14:30because Cruz Azul,
14:32They have done him a lot of harm,
14:33the,
14:35the managers,
14:35Look at one,
14:36Guillermo N,
14:37He's in jail.
14:39and who hurt him so much,
14:40to the cement workers' team,
14:43Carlos Hurtado,
14:44who has just passed away,
14:46who does not rest in peace,
14:48He controlled all of Mexican football,
14:51but he had more influence,
14:52at Cruz Azul,
14:55Ask Carlos Hermosillo,
14:57and Cruz Azul,
14:57It's a much-loved team,
14:59The goats are gone.
15:00the team,
15:01They support Chivas,
15:02due to the influence,
15:03from the parents,
15:04from the grandparents,
15:05But if you catch a boy,
15:06to a child,
15:07without that,
15:08Hey no,
15:08You're going to tell me who you're rooting for,
15:09And don't involve your parents.
15:11to your grandparents,
15:12Well, I'm going for Tigres.
15:13I'm going to Toluca,
15:15I'm going to America,
15:16But not Chivas anymore.
15:19Those who support it did so because,
15:21the nineties,
15:23or the eighties,
15:25or those from the year 2000,
15:26because they are influenced by their parents,
15:28from the grandparents,
15:29that the champion,
15:31that the Tiger Sepúlveda,
15:32Chava,
15:33Chava Reyes,
15:35Salvador Reyes,
15:36father,
15:37that Valcaza,
15:38Benjamin Galindo,
15:42more recently,
15:44Ramón Ramírez,
15:45the Guzano Naples,
15:46who is from Nuevo León,
15:48Alberto Poyote,
15:50Well,
15:51but,
15:52But Chivas,
15:53It is no longer,
15:53It is no longer one,
15:55look,
15:55the era of the ultimate champion,
15:57and then,
15:57how many championships has he won,
15:58Chivas now,
16:01not anymore,
16:01It's no longer a people's team,
16:03besides,
16:03It's a team of,
16:04of banknotes,
16:05I didn't want him to leave Jalisco,
16:08at noon,
16:09on Sundays,
16:11so,
16:14the Pumas,
16:15No,
16:15neither,
16:16the Pumas,
16:16It doesn't say one thing,
16:17the Pumas,
16:18They gave a lot to Mexican football,
16:20players,
16:24with another,
16:26with another lineage,
16:27players of a different lineage,
16:29with another chip,
16:31But that was a long time ago too.
16:33Mexicans,
16:34and they brought goatskin,
16:35and they brought foreigners,
16:37of very good quality,
16:38But more than anything, they were Mexicans.
16:40And if they brought foreigners,
16:41but of quality,
16:42cab and all,
16:44But Mexicans,
16:45with another chip,
16:47Hugo Sánchez,
16:48Luis García,
16:48Enrique Borja,
16:50And they were Mexicans,
16:52no, poor things,
16:53Mexicans with a certain level,
16:55cultural,
16:57educational,
16:59with purchasing power,
17:01important,
17:02They weren't the damn ones,
17:04of all time,
17:05They were Mexicans,
17:06with purchasing power,
17:09significant,
17:12were studied,
17:14They were middle class,
17:15upper class,
17:17There's Luis García,
17:18the doctor,
17:18Luis García Postigo,
17:21from grandfather,
17:23from grandfather,
17:25Asturian,
17:26and now he's a commentator,
17:27from Azteca television,
17:28and it looks like resources,
17:30No, poor thing.
17:31no fucking,
17:32Enrique Borja too,
17:33and then went to America,
17:35Hugo Sánchez,
17:36were studied,
17:37And they had another one,
17:37another culture,
17:38another chip,
17:39They weren't typical,
17:40Poor things,
17:41damned things,
17:42No,
17:42No,
17:43so,
17:43But not anymore.
17:44not anymore,
17:45so,
17:46Cruz Azul,
17:47for me,
17:47It's big,
17:48because if there were,
17:50by points,
17:52If this were measured,
17:53by points,
17:53championship,
17:54to whoever scores the most points,
17:55Cruz Azul would bring,
17:56from 15 to 20,
17:57from 15 to 20,
17:59but endings,
18:00sold,
18:01You already have it in your bag,
18:02let yourself get lost,
18:03Cruz Azul,
18:04when he won,
18:05which broke the drought,
18:06in his early twenties,
18:07with the Peruvian,
18:10Juan Reynoso,
18:12They don't say that,
18:13all of Mexico,
18:14He went crazy,
18:15except Monterrey,
18:15because Monterrey,
18:16Tigre de Monterrey,
18:17Striped tigers,
18:18Striped tigers,
18:18Tiger in Monterrey,
18:19nothing more than striped Tigers,
18:20Striped tigers,
18:21Striped tigers,
18:22Striped tigers,
18:22but in Victoria,
18:24in Tampico,
18:26in Veracruz,
18:29throughout Mexico,
18:31People went out to celebrate,
18:34Cruz Azul's title,
18:35after so many years,
18:37Not in Monterrey,
18:38because that's all there is to it,
18:39in the Sultana of the North,
18:40striped Tiger,
18:41striped Tiger,
18:41striped Tiger,
18:42But since I travel to several places,
18:44when Cruz Azul won,
18:45dearest,
18:46but very badly mistreated,
18:47by the managers,
18:48People went crazy,
18:49celebrated Cruz Azul's title,
18:51after so many years,
18:53broke the drought,
18:54with the Peruvian Juan Reynoso,
18:55that things didn't go well for him afterwards,
18:56unfortunately,
18:57with his country and everything,
18:58but,
18:59I consider Cruz Azul to be a great team.
19:01more beloved than the goat,
19:03I consider Cruz Azul to be a great team.
19:05I consider Cruz Azul to be a great team.
19:06and America,
19:08Toluca,
19:09Well,
19:09in titles,
19:11but,
19:12There are many foreigners,
19:14And it's valid,
19:15well,
19:15Here are the rules,
19:17but,
19:17Let's see what happens.
19:18because afterwards it stops winning,
19:20ten years,
19:22so,
19:23Cruz Azul must have already had,
19:25I don't know,
19:26If it were based on points,
19:27sports justice,
19:28about fifteen championships,
19:29I support América and Cruz Azul.
19:31I support América and Cruz Azul.
19:33the goat no longer,
19:34Pumas no longer,
19:34Toluca is on its way,
19:35but then it falls,
19:36loudly,
19:38then it falls spectacularly,
19:40Tigers,
19:41big,
19:42It's on its way.
19:43It has to last about ten or fifteen years,
19:45in the finals,
19:47winning them,
19:48for,
19:49to consider Tigres as,
19:51as a big guy,
19:52Toluca too,
19:53because then,
19:54wins and,
19:55and how many years passed,
19:57without winning a title,
19:57like ten,
19:58fifteen,
19:59That's where he was competing with me,
20:00to Cruz Azul,
20:01then Tigers,
20:03It's on its way.
20:03It needs to stay around ten,
20:04fifteen years,
20:06Monterrey,
20:06Stripes, no way.
20:08so,
20:10big,
20:11big,
20:13America,
20:14Yeah,
20:14Great America,
20:15It has to be said,
20:16even if it hurts them,
20:17I'm not a fan of anyone.
20:19I'm not a fan of anyone.
20:20less from Mexico,
20:21he at the same time,
20:22a special affection at the same time,
20:24but,
20:25But in Mexico,
20:26No,
20:26No,
20:26No,
20:27No,
20:27absolutely nobody,
20:29but,
20:30Hey,
20:31If I acknowledge that they,
20:34just two big ones,
20:36America,
20:37and Cruz Azul,
20:38that they have,
20:40Sweet dreams.
20:40Thank you.
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