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Suite et fin de mon diptyque consacré à la saga de la Terre du Milieu, réalisé par Peter Jackson. Ici, je me concentre sur la trilogie du Hobbit, son développement chaotique, ses controverses, mais aussi ses nombreux points positifs.

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00:00 Intro
02:10 Les différentes adaptations
03:19 La genèse du projet
08:40 Le Hobbit : Un voyage inattendu
13:09 Le Hobbit: La désolation de Smaug
18:09 Le Hobbit : la bataille des cinq armées
23:49 Conclusion

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00:00It's a very complicated film, x3, earlier.
00:04This is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, and I've never...
00:10I've really had enough of these complicated things.
00:13My next film is going to be very simple, whatever it is, it's very simple.
00:19Ah, The Hobbit!
00:20A trilogy that has generated a lot of discussion.
00:23Perhaps even a little too much ink.
00:25Some see it as a great success in the continuation of The Lord of the Rings,
00:28with welcome technological additions, and others do not subscribe at all.
00:32They feel betrayed by Peter Jackson, whom they accuse of having distorted his own universe.
00:36Today, more than 10 years after its release, it's time to take stock.
00:39Looking back at the genesis of the project, up to its theatrical release,
00:43but above all by trying to analyze this controversy.
00:45By answering a simple question, should we still hate The Hobbit?
00:52There are fewer adaptations of The Hobbit than of The Lord of the Rings.
00:56But we were still entitled to certain things.
00:57Like an 11-minute short film from 1966, with a graphic style,
01:02My goodness, quite peculiar.
01:12An animated television film was also made in 1977.
01:16And in reality, it's not as horrible as you might think.
01:18But graphically, it's not good at all.
01:20That's not the idea we have of Tolkien's universe.
01:22It's more like a kind of Snow White on acid.
01:29In any case, it remains a masterpiece compared to the Soviet live-action version.
01:33Released only in the USSR in 1985.
01:50Yes, we can say that we have reached a level of discomfort that is quite above average.
01:54Who would dare say after this that Peter Jackson's version is rubbish?
01:57I'm waiting for you.
02:01Originally, Peter Jackson and Frances Walsh wanted to adapt The Hobbit in 1995.
02:07But ultimately, The Lord of the Rings was chosen first for the big screen.
02:11Following the success of the trilogy, the same three screenwriters decided to seriously revisit The Hobbit.
02:16But after financial disagreements, New Line refused to let Jackson direct the film.
02:20He therefore turned to Guillermo del Toro, with Peter Jackson remaining the exclusive producer.
02:25The problem is that, due to MGM's financial problems,
02:28Pre-production delays piled up and del Toro eventually left the project in 2010.
02:32to devote himself to his other future films.
02:34From that point on, things start to look rather unpleasant.
02:36But Peter Jackson eventually agreed to take on the role of director.
02:40and the banks, reassured, finally replenished the coffers so that filming of The Hobbit could begin in February 2011.
02:46So, it's a matter of big money.
02:47Which are not going to end anytime soon, since the New Zealand actors' unions
02:51decide to go on strike to protest the differences in wages and privileges between them and the actors
02:57Europeans.
02:57But Warner, one of the film's three production companies, is threatening to move filming to Europe if everything
03:02This is not being resolved quickly.
03:03From that point on, the New Zealand government got involved because they certainly didn't want to lose the prize pool.
03:08to smells.
03:08Losses related to tourism and other elements surrounding the trilogy are estimated at over 1.5 billion
03:13dollars if the latter were not to be filmed on the island.
03:16Everything eventually worked out and filming could finally begin.
03:30Well, when it doesn't want to, it doesn't want to.
03:33Despite all these delays, filming can finally begin. It's worth noting that all the technical teams have had five months
03:38to create the visual universe of the trilogy versus 18 months for The Lord of the Rings.
03:42Naturally, with so little time, compromises have to be made. And digital technology will make up for this delay since the
03:46Most of the sets will be handled in post-production.
03:48Now, despite all the mess it may have caused and the stress of a tighter deadline, all the
03:53The crew seems to be having a lot of fun on the set of the first film.
04:10Well, not really everyone. Ian McKellen really struggles to act alone in front of a green screen during
04:15Long days. He's finding this filming period very difficult.
04:30But when you see the stunning result regarding the size difference between the protagonists and what can be done...
04:35Despite that, it was worth it.
04:38It's quite paradoxical because this trilogy reuses the visual universe of the original trilogy without ever truly altering it.
04:43look like.
04:44And perhaps this is where we can talk about the weakness of this trilogy, which wants to go into the
04:47continuity of the three original films, but which goes from several hundred models for The Lord of the Rings to
04:52None for The Hobbit.
04:53From sets built entirely and at full scale, to pieces of sets with green screen and film stock
04:595K 3D HFR.
05:00You can't make miniatures when you're shooting with such precision and in relief, because it
05:04sees far too much.
05:16So now, more than ever, Peter Jackson is adopting the "we'll see in the editing room" philosophy because he doesn't
05:21I can't do otherwise.
05:22Because Warner Bros. stole his thunder by imposing December 2012 as the release date.
05:27And that's also why the director opted for a third film, not for the money or anything.
05:31I don't know why, but simply because he couldn't finish this story in two films.
05:34And naturally, imposing a third film on the production team is a guarantee that they will accept it, because they will actually do it.
05:38to see profit,
05:39And that's the price to pay so that the film crew can have an extension in order to
05:43To finish this story.
06:04And it was the insurance that made the team do it.
06:06It was the insurance that would have been simply impossible.
06:09We were simply asking the team to grant an additional extension for the one-year oversight.
06:12because I just wanted to have my head completely clear and be able to place that.
06:18I made myself part of the Hobbit team, as I wasn't above the team.
06:22Given that I didn't have much preparation, and that I didn't have much preparation,
06:26and that I had no preparation, even though we have a point-of-view script,
06:28Philippe and Fran and I didn't really have the script all the time, all the time to our satisfaction.
06:36And quite frankly, let's be honest, when you know all that and you see the final result, we
06:40You could say it's a real miracle.
06:42Because yes, spoiler alert, I'm going to be nuanced when I discuss the films individually.
06:47I'm going to talk about their flaws because they exist, but above all I'm going to try to convince you that yes, the
06:51The Hobbit trilogy is a success.
06:53It could have been better of course, it can always be better.
06:56But we must acknowledge that it could have been, and should have been given all these controversies.
07:00much worse.
07:01And I'd bet my life that if Del Toro's version had been released, everyone would have
07:05cried foul and reportedly called on their messiah, Peter Jackson, for help.
07:08Okay, the messiah is a bit tired right now, but that won't stop him from giving us some great tracks.
07:12incredible bravery.
07:13And it starts right from the first film, with an unexpected journey.
07:38For this new story, the context will once again be established through a remarkably well-crafted prologue that...
07:44boarding directly.
07:45Then, when we arrive in the county, the film immediately adopts the tone of the book.
07:49In fact, this is the closest sequence to the book that you will see in the entire trilogy.
07:52And does that make it better or worse than the rest?
07:55No, not at all.
07:55I will try again on this channel to explain the principle of adaptation.
08:00But I have a feeling it's not going to be easy.
08:01The adaptation should be as free as possible to adapt itself precisely to its medium.
08:05That's what Peter Jackson did with the first trilogy, which is never faithful to the
08:09book.
08:09But that's okay, because a good film has to be a good film, not a good
08:13adaptation.
08:14When he removes the character of Tom Bombadil, for example, it is for narrative reasons.
08:18And we can't say that it's a good or bad choice.
08:20It's his.
08:21And proof that you can take liberties when adapting something to get something good, since the three films
08:25They perfectly complement the books.
08:26It's the same for The Hobbit.
08:27Peter Jackson keeps elements from the book, adds some of his own creation, picks from the appendices, and removes some.
08:33That's how a good adaptation should happen.
08:36What will ultimately harm the film, beyond the adaptation itself, is that it will inevitably be
08:40compared to his elder brother, and that is what will de facto condemn him.
08:43People had unrealistic expectations for this film.
08:45They wanted to experience the same feeling as with the original trilogy.
08:48However, that's not the direction The Hobbit takes, which isn't aimed at the same audience.
08:52and which will offer something lighter, even more burlesque at times.
08:56The stakes are not the same, the concept is not the same, the way of seeing a film is different
09:01is no longer the same.
09:02So yes, the comparison is inevitable, because it's the same director and the same universe.
09:06But in the end, it has no reason to exist.
09:08It's like the people who compared the original Star Wars trilogy with the prequel trilogy.
09:12These are two pre-artistic parts and two different eras.
09:14And that's precisely why I prefer two artists who aren't going to rest on their laurels.
09:18who will take the risk of proposing something different and innovative, even if they are wrong,
09:23rather than pandering to fans with reheated leftovers.
09:26Where it is possible to notice this difference in tone,
09:29it is by comparing the scene of Moria in The Fellowship of the Ring and that of Goblin-town in
09:33The Hobbit.
09:33Both have in common the arrival of the group of heroes in a hostile underground location where they will
09:37having to escape from enemies.
09:38It is primarily the stakes and the tone of the sequence that will be different.
09:41In The Lord of the Rings, the colors are muted. You can feel the noose tightening around the characters.
09:46The chase is viscerally unsettling, and we witness the fact that a character could die at any moment.
09:50until one sacrifices himself to save the others.
09:53This is something very serious. In The Hobbit, the chase is completely different, almost like a video game.
09:58Where gravity was once a danger in the community, here it no longer has any impact.
10:02Fluidity is key. The characters jump, bounce, fall, but are not in any danger at that moment.
10:08narrative.
10:09Of course, it takes away from the emotional impact and many will not support it, but it is a different party altogether.
10:14The enemy is no longer frightening, he is disgusting. The soldiers are no longer a threat, they are funny.
10:18The ending is no longer sad, it is joyful.
10:21It's not dark fantasy, it's a fairy tale.
10:24Now, of course, you have the right to prefer either one or the other.
10:27The main point here is to emphasize that the comparison is futile.
10:30The first part of The Hobbit is a rather confusing hybrid object.
10:33But precisely, he has this childlike innocence, moments of pure poetry,
10:37but also visual gags, songs, and above all, meticulous, inspired direction,
10:42which offers some truly magnificent sequences, and which make this film something quite unique.
10:46He is the least loved of the three, and yet he is the one who has done the most honor to
10:49natural scenery of New Zealand,
10:51who makes the best use of Howard Shore's composition,
10:53and which offers some pretty crazy moments of bravery, like that famous scene with the goblins,
10:57but also more subtle sequences, such as the confrontation between Bilbo and Gollum,
11:00which has never seemed so alive.
11:02A suspended moment where the two engage in a game of wit,
11:05undoubtedly the best scene in the film, along with the one where Gandalf explains the courage of the Hobbits.
11:09It features characters we love, familiar places; it's important to incorporate all of that.
11:13but we discover new and very endearing characters.
11:15Thorin, the new hero of this fantasy epic, frustrated by the fate of his people,
11:20is one of them.
11:21Perfectly interpreted, perfectly developed.
11:23An unexpected journey suffers from some lengthy pacing and can sometimes seem too disorganized.
11:28But it remains a very enjoyable entertainment show.
11:31which, disregarding any comparison, offers a truly worthy introduction to this new trilogy.
11:35With a final scene that hints at a sequel in the same vein,
11:38a journey that promises many more twists and turns.
11:40Well, if of course they manage to get down from that cliff.
11:46Okay, in 10 minutes, I consider us definitively lost.
11:52The Hobbit is a complicated novel to adapt.
11:54not that it is too short or too long.
11:56Personally, I don't think the number of pages should determine the length of the adaptation.
12:00but simply the director's vision
12:02and what contribution he wants to make to the project.
12:04Including a paragraph from the appendices of The Lord of the Rings,
12:06We could make a trilogy.
12:07All that would be needed is to develop a story around that.
12:09But that's also where the difficulty lies.
12:11And it's the same in The Hobbit.
12:12For example, the book chooses to develop the company of dwarves as a whole,
12:15where the film needs to offer them individually more substance.
12:19Logically, otherwise we'd have a group we don't care about.
12:21Although some dwarves were not allowed to develop.
12:23Like him over there.
12:24Or him, I don't even know who he is.
12:25From this point on, we can say that the length of the film is justified.
12:28Developing the characters is important,
12:30But Peter Jackson, the eternal child, wants to have fun with his characters.
12:34And he will mainly justify this length by putting them in awkward situations.
12:37which will lead to completely crazy action sequences.
12:40Because, well, since I'm going to be in Middle-earth to make a film that's going to be...
12:43controversial,
12:44Might as well enjoy it.
12:45And in terms of regressive pleasure and hallucinatory scenes, the film really delivers.
12:49The sequence in the Black Forest has a beautiful atmosphere.
12:52Giving spiders a voice through the ring is rather clever.
12:54But apart from all that, it's especially at that moment, I think,
12:57that we can realize what Martin Freeman brings to his character.
13:00When he retrieves the ring after slaughtering some kind of absolutely terrifying baby spider,
13:05I would have smoked it without the ring, personally.
13:07We can see all the emotions that the character experiences.
13:09Satisfaction, hatred, incomprehension, astonishment.
13:13He has a very mannered style of play.
13:14You can't say he's gesticulating.
13:16But what is certain is that he uses his body extensively to convey emotions.
13:19The same applies to facial expressions.
13:21He would have been a great silent actor with his own unique facial expressions.
13:28Furthermore, since we're on the subject of silent films, why not mention the barrel scene?
13:32Which brings back memories of Buster Keaton's best days
13:34and that Peter Jackson serves up to us like a sweet treat.
13:37that we will definitely enjoy tasting.
13:39This sequence is a ride-the-roller that only Jackson knows the secret to.
13:42Packed with staging ideas.
13:44Ultra-smooth.
13:45With near-perfect space management.
13:47One of the director's strengths.
13:48All the dials are pushed to their maximum to make this scene an example of the genre.
13:52Which once again provides a real lesson in how to breathe truly epic discoveries into a
13:56sequence.
13:57And apart from all that, we have a blast.
13:59And that's perhaps the most important thing.
14:00Perhaps that's what people sometimes forget to do at the movies.
14:03Have fun.
14:04Yes, having fun doesn't mean becoming blind to everything that's wrong.
14:06And in the desolation of Smog, there are things that are wrong.
14:09The film has a weak middle section.
14:10The entire sequence in the city is far too drawn out.
14:12Even though there are still some testicular moments in the extended version that are well worth watching
14:17delays.
14:36Proof that at least one person had fun with this film, and that is
14:39Peter Jackson.
14:39The real negative point is above all this poorly developed romance between Toriel and Kili.
14:44Forced onto the production team, much to the dismay of the writers and Evangeline Lilly, who were primarily there to
14:50to grope the orca.
14:51Now, contrary to appearances, there are many constructed sets and real sets, and this is for the
14:56three films.
14:56It's paired with a green screen, admittedly, but for some sequences, it's kind of necessary.
15:00Now, there is still some truly masterful work from the artists at Weta Workshop.
15:04Who, moreover, constantly have to work under pressure, but who still do it just as well.
15:09In any case, if there is one element that is not a weak point, it is Smog.
15:12The visual work on the character is insane.
15:14The dragon appears so tangible that one feels its immense strength, size, and weight through the eyes.
15:19'screen.
15:20It is portrayed by Benedict Cumberbatch, who lends his voice to the dragon.
15:23but also certain expressions thanks to in-depth work
15:26where the British actor will not hesitate to crawl in tights to give form to the antagonist of this installment.
15:43The entire sequence between the dragon and the Hobbit is masterful.
15:46The sound work on Smog's voice is truly incredible.
15:49Furthermore, this is the perfect time to commend the French dub of the trilogy, which is a truly excellent achievement.
15:53and Jérémy Covillo, the French voice of Smog, has nothing to envy in the actor who plays Sherlock Holmes.
15:58Smog is a great success, undoubtedly the most beautiful dragon in cinema.
16:01which alone justifies the existence of this trilogy.
16:03When I saw the film in the cinema, I really liked what I saw.
16:06And when Smog was about to attack the city, I was totally into it, 300%.
16:10So much so that it could have lasted another hour and I wouldn't have minded.
16:13But it stops there, with a cliffhanger that frustrated me so much.
16:16and which can still, and rightly so, seem unwelcome today.
16:20But it's a narrative choice like any other, and it deserves respect.
16:22The Fellowship of the Ring also ends on a cliffhanger.
16:25but which seems less frustrating because it does not take place in the middle of an action.
16:28This is undoubtedly the best of the three films.
16:30because it is the one that fleshes out the characters, that develops the story the most.
16:33and which strings together a series of bravura performances.
16:35When the film is released, everyone wonders what Peter Jackson will be able to say with the ultimate
16:39stolen.
16:39And yet, not only will he succeed in telling many stories,
16:42but in addition, it will offer us one of the craziest fantasy films of the last 20 years.
17:00The Hobbit wasn't always a walk in the park for the film crew.
17:04Many demands, much stress,
17:07but an experienced man at the helm,
17:09which will transform this chaotic production into a family collaboration,
17:12with a team that believes in him, even when he himself no longer believed in himself.
17:34The Battle of the Five Armies arose from a planning problem.
17:37because during the filming of the second film, which should have been the final film,
17:40The director had absolutely no time to prepare for the final battle.
17:46I don't know, but he doesn't have it.
17:49I made myself a hobbit,
17:50as I wasn't at the top of the hobbit.
17:53When you're a set and you're a little bit,
17:55You don't have to do anything.
17:56You don't have to do anything.
17:56You don't have to do anything.
17:57You don't have to do anything.
17:58And so what delayed it,
18:00It's because it's delayed.
18:01It's because it's a thinning agent.
18:03It's because it has departed from the example set.
18:03It's simply a matter of using both heart and head.
18:06and to have a little time to write,
18:08and just seeing the little inspirations
18:10to come to the battle that you have like that,
18:26This famous image, where Jackson can be seen doubting himself, has often been taken out of context.
18:30in order to justify that he had absolutely no control over the project.
18:33But it's quite the opposite; he's the one who will make this project a success.
18:36When you look at the appendices of The Hobbit, you realize that not only does it hold
18:40to this project, which he does not undertake reluctantly, but which, despite constant fatigue, he takes on
18:44having fun, enjoying himself like a child, and we can see that through the
18:48staging of this latest film, where the director uses the full potential of technology
18:52that he has in his hands to return to his first love, uninhibited action and
18:56gore.
19:02Finally, especially in the extended version, which is the only version of this film worth seeing.
19:05The Battle of the Five Armies picks up where the previous film left off, on the plane
19:09close, with a prologue worthy of the best James Bond films, that is to say, an action sequence
19:13An introduction that immediately sets the mood.
19:15That could have concluded the previous film, but Jackson prefers to maintain this tradition
19:19which consists of starting the films of the saga with a pivotal and breathtaking scene.
19:23Especially since the sequence is a real success, and perfectly bridges the gap.
19:26between Smog's death and what it will lead to.
19:29From this point on, the entire structure of the film will revolve around the great battle to come.
19:32And one may not like the bias.
19:34But strive to see that effectiveness is there in terms of action, but also
19:37In terms of character development, Thorin is at the forefront, having to fight
19:41against himself and not let this cursed treasure cloud his mind.
19:44Jackson thus manages to deliver an absolutely enjoyable war film, with a rhythm
19:48Extremely fast-paced, with very dynamic staging, sprinkled with astonishing moments like this
19:52a tank chase that evokes the Peter Jackson of the 90s, when he was having fun
19:57back then, they were making blood spurt everywhere.
19:59But despite this over-the-top action, the film can suffer from some poorly executed moments.
20:03The romance that binds Toriel once again, which ends with what is undoubtedly the worst dialogue.
20:07of the entire saga.
20:09They will want to bury him.
20:13They pissed me off, didn't they?
20:14And let's not forget Alfred, who can sometimes bring a smile to your face.
20:17Yes, I have a good sense of humor too.
20:18But it takes up such a huge amount of space in the narrative that it quickly becomes very cumbersome.
20:22And that's a shame.
20:22When you know that there are magnificent scenes like the one where Bilbo explains to Bard the importance
20:26to believe in victory and to hope, but which were not kept in the final edit
20:30It's a bit incomprehensible that Alfred monopolizes the screen.
20:33Especially since that's where the strength of this saga lies, in these scenes at eye level
20:37of man, where the characters will be sublimated in all their humanity.
20:40In The Lord of the Rings, they are unforgettable, like the one where Gandalf reassures
20:44Pippin, when discussing life after death.
20:46And in The Battle of the Five Armies, they are not forgotten, the exchange between
20:49Thorin and Bilbo, where the Hobbit confirms to the dwarf the affection he has for him through
20:53a symbol.
20:53An essential sequence to give substance to the character's death a little later.
20:58A final showdown reminiscent of Beowulf, the major inspiration for
21:01Tolkien.
21:02And which offers a gripping duel of tension, counterbalanced by Legolas's antics,
21:06which may seem inappropriate given the seriousness of the sequence.
21:12If we take a step back from the film, we can realize the epic scope of this
21:16last.
21:16From Smog's attack to Thorin's madness and the eagles' intervention, everything
21:20is iconized and magnified to the maximum.
21:22But what evokes the beauty of this work for me the most is that moment between Gandalf
21:26and Bilbo.
21:27The calm after the storm.
21:29Two friends who don't say a word to each other, because there's nothing to say, but who
21:33comfort
21:33through their mutual presence.
21:35A moment suspended in this surrounding chaos, and which proves once and for all that this trilogy
21:39has a heart.
21:39A scene even more laden with meaning when you know that it was the last tour
21:43by Yann McEllen as Gandalf.
21:57There's nothing to say, but there's nothing to say, but there's nothing
22:02Nothing to say.
22:03There's nothing to say.
22:29So, when we take stock, what remains of this trilogy today?
22:33For me, she is what she has always been, an appendage to The Lord of the Rings.
22:36An additional trilogy that doesn't reach the scope of the original, which has always
22:40suffered from comparison with its predecessor, but despite its production problems
22:43and more than 10 years after its release, remains at the top of Hollywood entertainment.
22:47Whether in terms of emotional impact, generosity, or expertise.
22:51No work is perfect, no work should be, but this one has at least
22:55the right to be considered an achievement.
22:58Today, the world of The Lord of the Rings continues to exist on our screens, and continues
23:02to do so amidst controversy, sometimes even nauseating controversy, since it comes to put back
23:06The artists who work there are the ones being criticized, as if certain ethnic groups didn't have the right
23:09to take part in this adventure, when Tolkien's entire argument in the first place,
23:13That's precisely the unity.
23:14Dwarves, hobbits, men, and elves who unite despite their differences to face
23:19to the only true enemy, hatred incarnate.
23:24In any case, the English author left behind something that had this
23:27the power to bring people together, whether in bookstores, on television or in cinemas.
23:31A work that has been elevated by artists from all over the world, that has made us laugh, that
23:36It galvanized us, left us speechless, and made us cry very often.
23:40But it's not up to me to tell you whether or not to cry during The Lord of the Rings.
23:43or in front of The Hobbit, because we must not forget that not all tears are a bad thing.
23:50Thank you for watching these two videos about the Lord of the Rings universe.
23:54If you haven't seen the first part dedicated to Peter's original trilogy
23:57Jackson, of course I refer you to him.
23:59And in the meantime, I invite you to like, share, and comment on this video.
24:03very important for SEO.
24:04I wish you happy holidays, and I also wish you a good
24:07a year ahead of schedule.
24:08And I'll see you on this channel in 2025, because I'm not finished yet.
24:11To get you out of some crazy situations, and with that, see you very soon.
24:29Subtitling by Radio-Canada
24:44THANKS.
Commentaires
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Grourmayil y a 3 heures
Une bonne saga quand même
J'ai vu qu'une seule fois aha
JordanUniverseil y a 1 jour
Quel saga quand même ...
Spider-Koda 🕷il y a 2 jours
C’est tellement cool le Hobbit !
ju2pommmil y a 2 jours
Merci pour la vidéo !
pti_thanosil y a 2 jours
J’ai adoré ces films

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