00:00And we're speaking around the 55th anniversary of Apollo 8, which flew three astronauts around
00:05the moon in 1968. Artemis II's flyby is coming close to recreating that scenario. And so can
00:12you talk about the parallels between the two missions from your point of view?
00:16We see parallel. I wish Victor and Christina were in here because they would give you a far better
00:21answer. We see all those parallels. Let me give you two sides of an answer. First, the parallel
00:28I most like to draw right now is that we are building on the Mercury Gemini Apollo era for
00:35sure. But when I look at what we're doing in Artemis, it feels to me in Artemis that we are
00:40more building on the international space station and a long-term presence. I feel the international
00:46space station in everything we do. I feel the international community. I feel the way we do
00:50export control, the way we farm out hardware to different experts around the world. And then we
00:55pull all of this together. We have an international crew. We don't really have that, like, before this
01:01decade is out, we are going to do this. We don't feel that space race necessarily as the crew, but
01:06we
01:06do feel a really robust international team. Everywhere we go, we try to highlight the Artemis Accords. I think
01:11we're up to 32 nations, maybe even 33 now. So I just feel like this, to me, feels like it's
01:17built on the
01:18International Space Station legacy of a little slower, methodical, we're here for the long term.
01:25However, the day we got announced when you were here, April 3rd, sitting on my couch later that day,
01:30completely exhausted. My cell phone rings. It's an unknown number. I thought it was a telemarketer,
01:34and I picked it up all annoyed. It was Tom Stafford, you know, who flew Apollo 10, not 8, but
01:3810. And he was
01:39so excited that we were heading back to the moon. And just to know that we are going to go
01:45out and try to
01:45wrap Apollo 7, 8, and a little bit of, like, 10 into one mission, it's just, you know, Victor walks
01:56around and says, the moon is the mission. And he's right. Like, we have got to get used to flying
01:59out
01:59into deep space. We've got to get out of low-Earth orbit, start making it comfortable to go out to
02:04the
02:04moon. And that's what Artemis 2 is going to go do. And then Artemis 3 will do more than we
02:08could ever
02:09even dream of. So I love the parallels. I think Apollo 8, once we did Apollo 8, I think everybody
02:14in the
02:15United States knew we can land now. Like, that was, that mission meant so much to just going. Go and
02:21the systems work. Holy smokes, we can fly around the moon. We can read from the book at Genesis on
02:26Christmas Eve on the back far side of the moon. You know, it's just, all that stuff is just amazing
02:30to me. So we do think about that legacy a lot.
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