00:00OK, and on the one hand, we're hearing the U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying the U.S.
00:04does want to deal with Iran.
00:06Then we've heard in the last few days President Trump saying that a change of leadership in Iran is the
00:10best thing that could possibly happen.
00:13I mean, what do you read as being Washington's desired outcome here?
00:17Yeah, so President Trump, you know, was critical of the regime change that the Bush administration conducted in 2003 in
00:25Iraq.
00:26So he has this new model, which let's call it the Venezuela model.
00:30Which is essentially to get rid of the top leadership of a regime, but to keep the regime itself in
00:36place and to replace the leader with a new leader and then to cut deals and to make agreements with
00:43this new regime.
00:45I mean, with this new leadership, rather, of the same regime.
00:48And what Trump is offering is basically a rehabilitation and a development of the Iranian oil and gas sector.
00:55We're telling the Iranians you'll make a lot of money if you agree to our terms and we can eventually
01:02remove all sanctions and just behave like a normal state and let the oil and gas flow and everything will
01:10be fine.
01:11I mean, that's essentially Trump's pitch to the Iranians.
01:13It means that the Iranians would have to give up on their ideological commitments, their revolutionary commitments, which have been
01:20there since 1979.
01:21Iran is a revisionist power that wants to see the destruction of Israel and the expulsion of the United States
01:29militarily, culturally and economically from the Middle East.
01:32That's not going to happen.
01:33That's not going to happen.
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