00:00I'm a millennial and I feel like America's Next Top Model was so big when I was like
00:05child, teen, very impressionable and like just watching the show was so impactful for me at
00:12that age that I can't even fathom the impact it had on you guys as the contestants. My first
00:18question is like what is your reaction to this documentary that's coming out? Did you watch the
00:23trailer? Do you plan to watch the documentary? Of course I'm going to watch the documentary
00:28mostly for, in my perspective, right? I like to see the way that these shows challenge
00:40the status quo. For me, it's more about peeling back the curtain and seeing what is allowed within the
00:54logistics of a tell-all because I know what it really is. I know the contestants know what it
01:02really is and then I also know that some contestants had way more severe traumatic experiences than
01:10others. Just from my own experience and what I have collected is a lot of the girls' experiences
01:18that are on there. I want to see how they're portrayed because I know a lot of the girls
01:24that are on that show, I know their true experience and how much it affected their lives. So I'll be
01:30watching it more to see how that gets portrayed and edited in this whole, right? As this whole entire
01:43project. So yes, I'll be watching, but not for the same reasons as other people. Right. You're going to
01:49be like comparing notes. You're like, here's what happened. Here's the actual truth. And now let's see
01:54like, that wasn't necessarily portrayed accurately. That's they're missing a whole thing here. Yeah. Oh, thank
02:01you. Yeah. He's in every interview. He's just funny boy, but, um, but yes, correct. Yeah. It's a
02:09dissection of me watching. Um, obviously the most important thing to me and also while,
02:16why I'm watching is, um, more of a concern for the girls and making sure that their stories get told
02:24correctly and also not to see them manipulated, which I am scared that their stories will be softened.
02:35And this is just a play for Tyra to play the victim along with Ken mock who, by the way,
02:41they both wear the horns and it just be like a money bag. So I'm looking, I'm going to definitely
02:48be watching, but not in the same way as everybody else. It's for other reasons. It's more of like a,
02:53um, a protective mother, if you will, just always trying to make sure that things are done correctly.
03:00I'm a big fighter and my dad, you know, he's my biggest cheerleader to make sure that I help.
03:06Like, I'm not in this world to get a bag. I'm in this world to make it a better place
03:11for people
03:13behind me. Like I want to make history. I'm not here to just for fame money and, uh, whatever I'm
03:21here to like, I'm really here trying to make a difference. You can tell you, I'm telling you like
03:27your words match your actions because from day one that like America met you, you have been exactly
03:34who you just described. You're here to make the world a better place. You're here to break the
03:40mold and break the stereotypes and pave a better way. And I, I'm just you, the fact that you use
03:47your platform to continue to do that. And you were doing that before you even had a platform. Like
03:52it's obvious and it's amazing. And I'm people can call me whatever they want. And it's fine if they
03:59misunderstand me because I understand, um, you know, when you're a triple dynamic type of person,
04:06which I think we all can be, um, I understand the skepticism of me because I do so many things,
04:17but one thing is for sure. Um, my opinion of things have never changed. I have been the same
04:25person from day one. I haven't said, well, I love this. And then go, no, I hate that. I've always
04:30been the same. Even when I went back on all stars, I went there for a vengeance because I had
04:35gotten so
04:36much, um, therapy and I had known their tricks. And also they, I signed the winning contract before I
04:46went on. So I went there for vengeance. I went there to, to change my persona in this machine that
04:54is America's next top model in a global platform that I was never going to get out of. The only
05:01thing I can do was help change the perspective of my persona. There was no way either. I was going
05:08to
05:08continue, let it perpetuate right. And it's negative, um, backlash forever because the episodes never
05:20stopped repeating around the globe, or I could go in there and try to change it and help my mental
05:27health and also show, uh, inspiration to other girls that you can also be your own hero. Yeah.
05:38Does that make sense? Yeah. So when you went back, that's really interesting. So you went back to
05:43all stars, like equipped basically with stuff you didn't have prior that you went in with like a
05:50different goal almost. Okay. Cause I know a lot of people are like, if you had such a miserable
05:56experience, why did you go back? But that actually makes a lot of sense. When people try to gaslight
06:01me and say, I'm just angry because I didn't win. Or Tyra goes on camera and says, they get mad
06:05at me when
06:06they don't win. No bitch. Yeah. It has nothing to do with modeling. It has nothing to do with the
06:12industry. It has nothing to do with this competition or you turning the girls on us. This is you. This
06:19is Ken lock. This is you. This is sweeps week. This is you trying to make money off of our
06:27traumas
06:27to manipulate our, our, our emotions. So you can switch them in a second and make it seem like
06:35we're that emotional over a photo shoot. Right. Right. No bitch. No. This new show, right. With Netflix
06:46and her blaming the audience and acting like it's over and she's reflecting on the past. Right.
06:53Is bull. Yeah. I think a lot of people are curious to see if she will be taking accountability. And
07:02I
07:02think the, the trailer at least gives glimpses that she might be taking accountability. She says,
07:08I knew I, I knew I went too far. Um, interestingly enough, couple seconds later, she was like,
07:16it was very, very intense, but you guys were demanding it. So we kept pushing. So a lot of
07:22people are like, okay, are you taking accountability or are you blaming the audience because they were
07:26watching? Like, which, which is it? So where do you, based on what we've seen, do you really think
07:31that there will be any real accountability or do you think it will be accountability in a nice box
07:38with a bow and presented in a certain way? My own intuition tells me from my own experience,
07:46which is very deep. And it's been many years. This is a money grab for Tyra and Ken Mock,
07:52but they are going, it's probably going to sting her so hard to, it's probably so hard for her to
07:59even
08:00probably take about 5% accountability, which I think she's going to be forced to do just to
08:05continue to be, it's just so her career can still, she can still grab what she can to, to,
08:15to make some money. Yeah. Do you think, okay. So let's say a hundred percent canceled. Do you know what
08:20I
08:20mean? Yeah. Yeah. So do you, so you don't think it would be genuine? No, God, no, no, really?
08:26No, Tyra. No, Ken Mock, neither. So with, with glass podcast specifically, yeah, we,
08:34I was working with them from 2020 and Gina, Gina Turner, um, she joined, she joined in because her
08:42story is devastating what Tyra and the show has done to her. And so we kind of just teamed up,
08:49like we're back to back, you know, like just always got each other's backs. And so, yeah,
08:57there's a show that we helped bring together with E and glass entertainment. And that airs March 11th
09:05and that show in itself has nothing to do with Tyra Banks and her sticky little greedy fingers along
09:13with Ken Mock. We, so it's that on our show, um, Gina and I, which is going to be on
09:21E March 11th,
09:22it's more focused of what they did to us behind the scenes. And that's what you didn't see,
09:28but it will correlate to what happened after that when we walked on set. Yeah. Wow. So it's going to
09:37be
09:39more transparent behind the cameras because I think Netflix is focusing on what the fans are
09:50familiar with because they've seen these scenes. Like re-examining what we already saw, but like,
09:56let's actually break it down. It's probably easier to get the attention because it's something that
10:00it's nostalgia for the viewers. Whereas what Gina and I are focusing on and through E, we're more
10:09focused on connecting the scenes that people are familiar with as to what they said to us and did
10:16to us behind the scenes.
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