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00:00On today's show, poor mums get tough with their teens.
00:08This is the last chance for Holly.
00:10She knows at 16, if she doesn't do anything to turn it around, she's out that door.
00:15I hate you. I absolutely hate you.
00:19All the bad girls take the boot camp challenge.
00:21This will be like nothing you've ever done.
00:22No mobile phones, no music, no cigarettes.
00:26Just the sheer wilderness.
00:27Does anybody not want to take up the Jeremy Carl boot camp challenge?
00:33Tears and tantrums.
00:34But can these mothers and daughters solve their long-running feuds?
00:38This behaviour now is not going to change anything.
00:40I throw a strop, I get a cigarette.
00:42I throw a strop, I get my own way.
00:45I throw a strop, I go out late at night.
00:48I don't want to do stupid boot camps anymore.
00:57Hello and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:14Now, coming up in the next hour, I'll be revisiting some of my most memorable guests from the past six years.
01:19And these guests you certainly wouldn't forget.
01:21In 2006, I met four mums who had all struggled to curb their daughter's bad behaviour and then I set them a challenge that could change their lives forever.
01:29My first guest, Yvonne, said she was left with no choice but to throw her daughter out of their family home because of her abusive behaviour and was adamant that she wouldn't allow her back until she changed her ways.
01:39Take a look at this.
01:40She is just so rude.
01:43She has no respect for nothing, you know, nothing anybody does for her.
01:48She's horrible.
01:49She's horrible to my mum.
01:50She's horrible to all her elders.
01:52She's currently living with your mum, is that right?
01:54She lives with my mum at the minute but my mum's on the process of throwing her out too because she's heard enough as well.
01:59She's been excluded from school.
02:02She got, the last few weeks she was put in the exclusion room because she was arguing with all the girls.
02:06Is she violent towards you?
02:08We've had a few little fights.
02:13You've hit her?
02:14I've hit her too, yeah.
02:15You've bought her alcohol as well?
02:17Yes.
02:18That's what I'm saying.
02:19We were so close.
02:20We were really close.
02:20But how is that a justification?
02:21Because I would rather know.
02:22I don't remember my mother buying me alcohol at 15 or 16.
02:27You admit then that you could have done things slightly differently?
02:30I think so.
02:31Interesting.
02:31Okay, for now Yvonne on the show, ladies and gentlemen.
02:33Thank you so much.
02:34Sit back.
02:34Relax.
02:37Please bear in mind this young lady is but 16 years of age.
02:44This is Cherry on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
02:46Welcome to the show, sweet.
02:56Hello.
02:57Whenever I start these shows, I try not to have any preconceived idea.
03:01Your behaviour's been appalling.
03:02That's what she says, but from the way I've been brought up and all the stuff that's happened
03:09to me in the past, I don't think that the way I act is wrong because she's, I believe,
03:16caused me to be like this.
03:17How can you blame your mum for that, though?
03:18Because she was the one that was going around sleeping with other blokes and...
03:23The thing is, Yvonne, you believe that Cherry has no respect for you.
03:26She has been absolutely clear to my research team from day one.
03:30She thinks you've put your life, your personal life, before hers and the kids.
03:36You've got no priorities.
03:38You said you kicked me out because my attitude was bad, but I distinctly recall you saying
03:44my attitude has got to change towards your boyfriend or I can leave.
03:48So I thought, right, if you're going to put your boyfriend first, I'm not going to go
03:50through all of this again.
03:51I'm going to leave.
03:52See, she sees it as a contradiction.
03:55She wants her mother, this is the truth, right?
03:57She wants her mother to be a role model.
03:59Now, you might think that sounds a bit unfair, but maybe when your kid is 13 and 14 and sees
04:04that, maybe after that, your priority should be your child.
04:07Another thing that Cherry said, which I'd love to hear your response to, Yvonne, is
04:11that you treat her as an adult when you give her responsibility, and then when a new bloke
04:16comes through the front door, she's pushed aside.
04:18She wants stability and love from her mother, not to be picked up and dropped when...
04:22No, I'm good enough for you in the week when he doesn't come down, but then the weekend
04:26I'm like, oh, can we go shopping?
04:28You're like, no, I'm with him.
04:30Because we do it in the week.
04:31But then that makes me feel used, because you're good enough in the week, but then when
04:36he's done, it's like I don't exist.
04:38But then when you're with your friends, you don't want me around.
04:40Let's talk about what I asked your mum about, and she was very honest.
04:45Yvonne said that for years you two were like friends.
04:47Yeah.
04:48Were there boundaries?
04:49Were there rules?
04:49Did you obey them?
04:51Well, that contradicts what you said.
04:52You said there were plenty.
04:52She did have her rules.
04:53No, we didn't.
04:54You did.
04:55No, we didn't.
04:55You always lived...
04:56You probably didn't even see them as rules, because they wasn't heavy.
05:00I go out and, like now, I go out a lot, and you say, oh, you're never home.
05:04We had blazing arguments, because I was never home.
05:06That's because you didn't come home at all at night.
05:07And then when I came home, you're like, oh, why can't you go out?
05:10And you pay me to go out.
05:12What?
05:12Because then you can have a dirty weekend with your boyfriend, so you pay me to leave the house.
05:17Is that true?
05:17So you can have sex loudly.
05:19Is that true?
05:19She was 16.
05:24She'd come home.
05:25I gave her some money to go out.
05:27This is an inappropriate mother-daughter relationship.
05:30I didn't say we had a normal relationship.
05:33No, but your mother is not somebody who should buy you alcohol and pay you so she can, you
05:37know, go upstairs and enjoy herself with her latest beau.
05:40And you, with the greatest respect, where I come from, should not gob off at your mother
05:46and so disrespect her.
05:47But this has been born, I think.
05:48She's quite happy to go out.
05:50But this has been born from being friends, right?
05:53She's just jealous of everything I do.
05:55Seriously, if I had the life that you have, I really, I'm not jealous of your relationship.
06:00I'm just, I said to you the other day, where are we going to be next year?
06:03You're like, I don't know, I don't like looking to the future, it scares me.
06:06You've got three kids to think about on where we're going to be next year.
06:10We'll all be together, even if we move out.
06:12At the minute, I live on my own with the children, yeah.
06:15But we'll all be together.
06:16So this is about the fact that you're concerned she's going to move in with the next one?
06:19Yeah, and it's all going to happen again.
06:21We're all then going to have to move, move to a different area, then there's going to
06:24be another bloke, she'll get bored of him and then go to another one.
06:26I want you to think about that.
06:27I want you to go backstage, right?
06:29I want you to start talking in some detail with Graham.
06:31But later on, I want to get you back on the show with some other people as well,
06:34because we have a challenge which we want to offer you, OK?
06:39But Yvonne wasn't the only mother at breaking point.
06:42My next guest, Annette, said that she was at loggerheads with her daughter Holly.
06:45Holly had been violent, excluded from school and had even stolen from her family.
06:50Let's take a look back.
06:50What's today, Annette, about for you to say to her?
06:55That this is her last chance for her to gain some respect for herself.
07:01Yeah.
07:03Because she has no respect.
07:06She's sexually active and has been for the last 18 months, two years.
07:11I cannot get any help from anyone else and this is our last chance.
07:15OK, shall we bring her out?
07:17Yes, please.
07:17OK, this is Holly on The Jeremy Kyle Show.
07:20You stupid...
07:23Why are you such a liar?
07:27I hate you.
07:28I absolutely hate you.
07:32You've just proved...
07:33Oh, shut up!
07:34You've had your turn, now it's my turn.
07:36Shut up!
07:45This is what I put up with every single day of the week
07:49and have done for the last six or seven years.
07:51Shut up, it's not your turn to speak!
07:52I'll tell you something and I'm going to say this very calmly
07:55because I have a daughter that is one year younger than you.
07:59If you suspect in your wildest dreams, young lady,
08:02that you want time and space on this show to be listened to,
08:06you do not come out and treat the woman who brought you into this world like that.
08:10That was disgusting, I apologise and then we'll start.
08:13CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
08:15Then we'll start.
08:17OK?
08:17OK?
08:18OK?
08:19That's it.
08:20Do it nicely and then we'll start.
08:22Say sorry.
08:23Sorry.
08:24Now turn around.
08:25What...
08:26I mean, you know, I've got a 16-year-old, but what's this all about?
08:31What's going on?
08:32Her.
08:33What do you mean, her?
08:34She's a control freak.
08:36She's your mum.
08:37Yeah, she doesn't give me any space.
08:39She forgets about me.
08:41She's got five boys in the house.
08:43She just thinks that I'm not there.
08:45You genuinely feel that?
08:46Yeah.
08:46Did you know that?
08:47I don't see why she does, because when she was younger,
08:51she had ballet lessons, she had tap dancing,
08:56she'd won a scholarship to a dance school,
08:58she has numerous...
08:59It's not about what you buy a child, is it?
09:01No, no, I didn't.
09:02She had this given to her.
09:03This is a young girl who, and I've put her in a place for what she did,
09:07but she made a big point to the researchers that she felt invisible, right?
09:10I do feel invisible compared to her.
09:12What you need to do is not shout, you need to talk and listen to each other,
09:15tell her in a decent way.
09:17I do.
09:18I feel invisible, Mum.
09:20But when you...
09:21When I come home, I go to my room.
09:23You don't even come up to see if I'm all right.
09:24You don't ask how my day has been at school.
09:27Or nothing.
09:28But when you've had years and years of a dripping tap
09:32with the verbal abuse to myself,
09:36friends in the family,
09:38and things like that,
09:39Holly, I don't want to talk to you when you come home...
09:42I think it's a relevant point.
09:43Do you understand?
09:44Much as I know you're shouting because you want to be...
09:45Herb, we have to do both sides of the argument.
09:47Do you understand, right?
09:49It's quite a good analogy, isn't it?
09:51A dripping tap.
09:52Every time you gob off now, right,
09:54people just go,
09:55it's Holly again,
09:56and they just switch off.
09:57You said to my researchers,
09:58I hate living at home and I can't wait to move out.
10:00I can cook and I clean and I don't need anyone.
10:03I don't need anyone.
10:04I can look after myself.
10:06What do you think about yourself?
10:08Me.
10:08Some parts, but everyone always has bad sides and good sides.
10:14Most of my bad sides at home because I cannot stand being at home.
10:17And you do it to get a reaction?
10:19Yeah.
10:20So should you not apologise to your mother for wrecking her car and stealing from your brother?
10:24That's completely wrong.
10:25I did apologise.
10:26Do you know what they told me?
10:27What she wants to do?
10:30Oh, please don't tell me.
10:32You're her mother.
10:33You ought to know what she wants to do with her life.
10:36You came out and you said she wants to get pregnant.
10:38I hope nobody in this audience laughs
10:40because I actually believe that this is true.
10:42She wants to be a forensic scientist.
10:44Didn't you know that?
10:45Unfortunately, Holly's got no chance of that.
10:47School have told her that.
10:50Can I tell you something now?
10:51She has to go to school to get the qualifications to do it.
10:53Can I tell you something now, really, really calmly?
10:56I never said this on British television.
10:58I failed my maths O-level.
10:59Yes, I'm that old.
11:00Six times.
11:01And I was told that I would never ever get a job in the history of my life
11:04and that I was washed up at 18 years of age.
11:07Well, I proved him wrong.
11:08And I hope to God she proves you wrong
11:09because that is a ridiculous thing to say to a child.
11:12She'll never achieve her dream.
11:13Why don't you let your kids aim for the stars?
11:18Come on.
11:19She's got to go to school to get it.
11:21Okay.
11:22Maybe she'll turn her life around and go to college.
11:23Doesn't she need encouragement?
11:25But this is the idea that she can get something for herself.
11:27We'll go to the Army next year in September.
11:29I've already put in an application form.
11:31Why?
11:31Except to get away.
11:33To get away and get NVQ and, like, sort my life out.
11:37Go into the Army, then go to college and uni
11:39and become a forensic scientist
11:40because the NVQ will help go to college.
11:43I repeat, right?
11:47I am not.
11:48It is very easy to be on the periphery of somebody's relationship.
11:52And I'm sure, and I made the point,
11:54you said it's like a dripping tap for years.
11:56You've got to the point where you just don't believe anything anymore
11:58because it's worn you down.
12:00We're going to ask you to come back later on.
12:02We have something that we want to talk to you both about.
12:05Are you prepared as mother and daughter
12:08to go off and talk with Graeme and then come back later?
12:11Yes or no?
12:11Yeah.
12:11Yeah.
12:13Right, after this break, we'll meet Sharon,
12:15who was also desperate to control her runaway teen.
12:17We're right back after this break.
12:19Welcome back.
12:32Now, this week, we're looking back over the last six years
12:34of The Jeremy Carr Show,
12:35and today we're revisiting some of my most memorable tearaway teens.
12:39My next guest, Sharon,
12:40said she had tried absolutely everything to control her daughter, Sabrina.
12:43Sharon said things had got so bad at home,
12:45her daughter had run away at least 30 times.
12:48Take a look at this.
12:50She's stolen from people?
12:52She has, yes.
12:52She stole a cash card, went and drew out £100 out of somebody's account.
12:57You know that she's been sexually active?
12:59With a minimum.
13:00We actually know that she's admitted to two people,
13:03but we've been told by other people that it's several.
13:05What are you going to say to her?
13:07She's got to sort her life out,
13:08otherwise I'm going to get a knock on the door to say she's dead in a gutter.
13:11You love her, don't you?
13:12I love her with all my heart.
13:14I love all my kids.
13:15OK, let's bring her on.
13:16Sabrina on The Jeremy Carr Show.
13:18I'm not, I'm not sleeping around.
13:23I'm going to do drugs with you.
13:24Start saying it to everyone.
13:25I didn't say you were sick, Sabrina.
13:27I said you've got to sort your life out.
13:28You're saying I'm sleeping around,
13:29which means that you're saying I'm not.
13:30You're left with at least two people, Sabrina.
13:32You've admitted to yourself.
13:33Yeah, because that's the only way that I feel loved.
13:34How can I show this, love, when you're coming out here, shouting your mouth off?
13:41I can't show you love.
13:43You don't show me love.
13:44It works both ways.
13:45You've never shown me love, so how am I supposed to know how to show love?
13:48I can't help the way I express my love.
13:52I try to.
13:53I've even been out this morning and bought you things.
13:56Yeah, you bought me stuff for today.
13:57No, it was things that I knew you would like.
14:00You don't buy a child's love, though, do you?
14:02No, definitely not.
14:03It's the saddest thing I've heard in 15 months of doing this show.
14:06You have sex with boys because it's the only way that you can feel loved.
14:10Yeah.
14:12What do you mean by that, sweet?
14:14When I'm at home, it's just like my sister, she came home drunk once,
14:19got away with it all, didn't get grounded or anything.
14:21Mum had a go.
14:22The one night she was drunk, so she didn't remember it,
14:24and then no grounding.
14:26I came home drunk once.
14:27I was grounded for three weeks or a month or something,
14:30and it's just favouritism.
14:34You talked to us, didn't you, the researchers,
14:36about this award ceremony coming up.
14:37Tell me about that.
14:38Yeah, with the air cadets that I go to,
14:41there's an award ceremony coming up in February,
14:44and it's, like, something that I've got really into now, so...
14:47For you, if you achieve an award and do well,
14:51you don't think your mum will bat an eyelid?
14:53No, because I got a certificate,
14:54cos I'm in with different groups and that.
14:57I got a certificate for joining, doing all the training for it.
15:00I showed my mum, she was like, oh, OK.
15:01But when my sister got an award and a couple of certificates,
15:04she got 20 quid for it.
15:05Is that why you run away?
15:07Because she just don't...
15:08It's like favouritism.
15:10What do you want to say to your mum,
15:11cos all you want is to love her, isn't it, and get that back?
15:14Just that she's got to listen to me.
15:15I want you to continue this conversation backstage with Graham.
15:18What I'm going to say to you, listen to each other.
15:20The final mother and daughter we're looking back at today
15:22are Alison and Abby.
15:24Now, Alison said that her daughter's violent outbursts
15:26had got so bad that she even gave up her job to look after.
15:29Take a look at this.
15:31It's interesting, isn't it,
15:32because a lot of the stories this morning
15:33have been teenagers lashing out
15:36when a new man comes into mummy's life.
15:40Yeah, no, that's not...
15:40It's always been you and Abby together,
15:42and you'd think, wouldn't you,
15:43that you two would have this indefinable bond, really.
15:47Yeah.
15:47She hasn't had to put up with any boyfriends or anything.
15:51My life has just been Abby, and, you know...
15:54Fair play to you for that.
15:54Fair play to you for that.
15:55I'll sort her out for you.
15:56Good, thank you.
15:57This is Abby on The Jeremy Carle Show.
16:07Mum, you have to give me more freedom.
16:10Oh, just sit down, please.
16:13It's not about freedom, it's about you behaving yourself.
16:15I've told you, when you behave yourself,
16:18then you'll get more freedom.
16:19You have to earn things, Abby.
16:21You'll be rewarded when you can behave yourself.
16:25When I don't get a phone call almost once a week from the unit
16:29to say that your behaviour is inappropriate
16:31and that you've been abusive
16:34or that you haven't even turned up,
16:37you need to earn it, and then you'll get more freedom.
16:40It works both ways.
16:42It works both ways.
16:43APPLAUSE
16:44Hello.
16:48Hello.
16:49Who do you think you are?
16:53You need more freedom.
16:55You don't go to school, you don't go to college.
16:56What, do you think?
16:57This is a holiday camp?
16:58I think your mother's absolutely right, young lady.
17:01And I haven't said that to any mothers so far today.
17:03There isn't an excuse here of a new stepdad, is there?
17:05Or somebody to hate.
17:07This is a woman who's dedicated her life to bringing you up
17:09and how do you repay her?
17:11Come on.
17:12What's it going?
17:13Where?
17:14Where's the anger from?
17:15What's she done wrong?
17:18Just doesn't let me do what I want to do.
17:21I'm not allowed to stay out.
17:22What time do you think you should be able to stay out to?
17:24Ten o'clock.
17:26Ten o'clock?
17:27What time do you let her stay out to?
17:29Half eight, usually.
17:30Nine o'clock.
17:31Why don't you spend some time with your mum?
17:33Don't like spending time with her.
17:35Why?
17:35Because I don't like her.
17:39Why?
17:40Because she's...
17:42She's just horrible and doesn't let me...
17:45Get your own way?
17:46Yeah.
17:47Backstage you were heard to say that you want a baby.
17:54Why?
17:55Because my friend's got one.
17:57Well, it's just ridiculous.
18:01And you'll get a nice flat?
18:03Yeah.
18:04Away from my mum.
18:05And all the people in this audience who pay tax every day will pay for your child.
18:09For you to sit at home and watch the television and play with your child, yeah?
18:12What did you want to do with your life?
18:14Become a hairdresser.
18:15So, you have to go to school to get qualifications, to become a hairdresser.
18:23What is it that...
18:25Why are you so...
18:26I don't know what word I want to use.
18:27Why are you so hacked off?
18:28I don't know, just with my mum and school.
18:35What could your mum do differently?
18:40Let me stay around my friend's houses more often.
18:44Give me a bit more freedom.
18:45No.
18:46No.
18:46Because in the past, you haven't deserved it.
18:49You've said you were staying at Friends, and when I've checked up on you, you haven't been there.
18:53You see, I find myself all morning rather thinking,
18:58Mum, you need to meet halfway.
19:02But I have to say, everything she's said so far, I don't know if the audience agree with me,
19:05I totally support her.
19:07You have to earn privilege and respect.
19:09You don't get it by...
19:11I don't see in front of me a woman who is parading men in and out of the house
19:21or is out getting drunk every single night.
19:24I see a woman who's dedicated her life to you, young lady,
19:26who has put her own personal life to one side,
19:29whose professional life has disappeared down the car seat
19:32because she's again put you as first priority,
19:35and you come out here and say, I don't even like her.
19:38I think that's rubbish.
19:39I think you love her completely, and for some reason,
19:41and I'll tell you what it is, in my humble opinion,
19:43it's a bit like the I want a baby stuff.
19:45My friends do it.
19:47I bet your friends think it's cool to lash out at your parents.
19:50Well, I know you think I'm boring and old-fashioned and three times your age,
19:52but one day you will realise, right,
19:55that this lady is the most precious lady in your life,
19:58and she should get enough respect for that,
20:00and if you started with that, you might get something back.
20:03You've got a good mum, OK?
20:05You're full of angst and you're full of anger and all that,
20:07and we'll work on that, right?
20:10But you've got a great mum.
20:11Do you agree with me?
20:13APPLAUSE
20:13OK?
20:17Take a breather, cos after the break, I've got a challenge for you.
20:23You ready for that?
20:24Yeah.
20:25Sure.
20:26Right, coming up next, we'll find out how the mums and daughters reacted
20:29when I set them my biggest challenge yet, boot camp.
20:33I'm right back.
20:34This boot camp is going to be the hardest one ever.
20:37Welcome back.
20:46This week, we're looking back over the last six years of The Jeremy Kyle Show,
20:49and before that break, I was revisiting some of our most memorable tearaway teens.
20:54I was about to set them all one final challenge,
20:57but did they all accept my offer?
20:58Check this out.
21:00I guess some of you probably have some sort of idea of why you're here.
21:04We have four mums and four teenage rebellious daughters to a degree.
21:09You've all seen and heard about The Jeremy Kyle Boot Camp, yeah?
21:12It's about taking up a challenge, showing leadership, communication,
21:18showing that you've got the ability to throw off your inhibitions
21:21and rise to a challenge.
21:24Anybody concerned at all?
21:26OK.
21:27This boot camp is going to be the hardest one ever.
21:30This boot camp is for three whole days,
21:32and it's mothers and daughters together, OK?
21:35When I say throwing away your inhibitions and your shackles,
21:38this includes sleeping under the stars in the middle of absolutely nowhere.
21:43OK?
21:45That means no hair straighteners.
21:48In fact, let's start as we mean to go on.
21:51Can you bring me a package?
21:51I'll tell you what we're going to do.
21:53That means no make-up for anybody who's on The Jeremy Kyle Boot Camp.
21:56So these are make-up wipes.
21:59Please wipe.
22:01And the mothers can join in as well,
22:02because we're going to do this, and we're going to do this properly.
22:05No make-up, no hair straighteners, no mobile telephones.
22:10You are going to carry your own equipment through the wilderness
22:14for the best part of three days.
22:16You'll spend two nights in the middle of absolutely nowhere.
22:20There will be physical challenges, like rock climbing and abseiling.
22:23You'll be scrambling through gorges and hiking up hills.
22:26And there will be a shed load of physical challenges and surprise challenges, OK?
22:32Now, Abby, you're not wiping your make-up off.
22:34Come on, this was designed specifically.
22:35Well, not specifically for you, Abby,
22:37but I had it in mind as I came up with the idea during the break.
22:39Wipe it off.
22:40Go on.
22:41This is a serious attempt for us to get you guys to connect with each other.
22:48Yes, amongst yourselves, but specifically with each other, OK?
22:52This will be like nothing you've ever done, OK?
22:55Does anybody not want to take up the Jeremy Kyle Boot Camp Challenge?
23:02Abby?
23:05No, I'll do it.
23:06You all right with it?
23:06Good.
23:07The Boot Campers, ladies and gentlemen.
23:11It's day one on the boot camp, and the mothers and their daughters arrive,
23:14where for the next three days they will be tested to their extremes,
23:17both emotionally and physically,
23:19having to hike for miles into the wilderness
23:21and confront their problems face on.
23:23For all, this really is the last chance for them
23:25to try and salvage some sort of relationship together.
23:30OK, if you leave your luggage here for now,
23:33I'm going to swap your luggage for some of our luggage across there.
23:37But first, we're going to get you kitted up.
23:39We're going to get you some waterproof jackets, trousers, boots.
23:43As you know, Sharon and Sabrina have not turned up,
23:46so that means that you've got less kit to carry as a group.
23:50Within that kit, you've got a tent, a roll mat each, two sleeping bags.
23:55We're going to get your personal clothing,
23:59and you'll go through with one of our tutors,
24:01just out a pack of rucksack.
24:03A bit apprehensive.
24:06Abby's not looking forward to it at all.
24:09I don't like it. I don't want to be here.
24:12I'm hoping that Abby's going to realise
24:14that she's got to do things for herself.
24:16It's that time she took responsibility.
24:18You know, I just want her to grow up a bit
24:20and, you know, stop relying on me so much.
24:22Do you want to do it yourself?
24:24Do you want to do it yourself?
24:25No.
24:28I don't think it will help.
24:29Camping outside, it's cold.
24:31She hates the cold.
24:33Yeah, it's cold already.
24:34She's got thermals on already.
24:37I'm going to go home.
24:39It's going to be a real eye-opener for her.
24:41Haven't you got a really, really long extension, Lee?
24:43It's got our hair strengthens.
24:46Because she's never camped before.
24:47She's never done anything away from home before.
24:49This is horrible.
24:52I don't like it.
24:53I want to go home or shopping or something.
24:56It's not me.
24:58We haven't spoke at all, really.
25:00Cherry doesn't really live with me.
25:01We've had a few cross-textes and no real conversation.
25:05We haven't spoken since the show
25:07because I'm still not living with her.
25:11She has been still nasty at the moment.
25:16Last night they gave us a room together.
25:18But I complained.
25:20So they gave me my own room.
25:22Even get back to being a mum and daughter, basically, really.
25:24That would be good.
25:24You're going to be navigating to your campsite
25:28where you're staying tonight.
25:29No, that's not...
25:30I'm not holding this thing.
25:33What kind of thing?
25:33This.
25:34You have to.
25:35You have to wear it on your back.
25:36I don't care.
25:37We have to.
25:38Come on, Holly.
25:39I'm staying here.
25:40I'm not moving.
25:41No, you are.
25:42No, I'm not.
25:43Holly, come on.
25:44Come with mum.
25:45Come on.
25:45That's what I'm staying here.
25:47We're going to do some bonding in a minute, Holly.
25:49Let me explain to you first, Holly.
25:51Come on, Holly.
25:52That's what I'm staying here.
25:53Have a look.
25:53It's not far.
25:54It is.
25:54I've had to look.
25:55It's too far.
25:56Just do it.
25:57You don't want to do it, but do it.
25:58Come on.
25:59If it's only that two miles,
26:00I'll turn back and I'll go home.
26:02For the next three days,
26:04each person is responsible for looking after
26:06and carrying their equipment and food.
26:08But for some, this is a new concept.
26:11At home, Abby is more than used to throwing a strop
26:13and getting her own way.
26:15That's trying there.
26:16This bag will send in river.
26:30Yeah, but I need to stop because I've got a back aid.
26:33Yeah, well, we've got back aid.
26:34Abby, you're more than welcome to carry it like that,
26:37but I think you'll get fed up with it.
26:40Holly!
26:42Come to join us.
26:44I'll catch you up in an hour.
26:46I'm not doing no more.
26:50I'm not moving no more.
26:52My back is killing me.
26:53I'm not moving.
26:55It's heavy.
26:56Look how small we are.
26:57Look how much we've got to carry.
26:59Yeah, come on.
27:00Look how big you are to me.
27:02Come on, let's go.
27:03No!
27:04No, no, you've had to sit.
27:05You've had to rest.
27:07Now get it on and let's get going.
27:08You've had to rest.
27:09I'm not taking that.
27:10You are taking that because you've got the tent in it.
27:13Maybe, carry on without me.
27:15Okay, we're only halfway through the hike
27:17and as you can see, both groups are separating.
27:19Mothers are separating from the daughters.
27:21Clearly don't want to communicate with each other.
27:23We're going to have a little chat now with the parents
27:24and teach them how to communicate with their daughters.
27:28How are we doing?
27:30All right, thank you.
27:31Oh, yes.
27:32Okay, you've noticed your daughters are all hanging back there.
27:36Yeah.
27:36And what I'd like you to do right now
27:38is like to pick up your daughters separately
27:40and become mother and daughter units for a while
27:42and when they make these statements like,
27:45I can't do this, I don't want to do this,
27:47I want you to ask them why.
27:49Instead of just making statements
27:51and then making statements, open them up.
27:55Make sure that you're going to get an answer from them.
27:57Yeah?
27:58Are we with it?
27:59Graham's challenge to get the mothers and daughters talking
28:02opens up some old wounds with Cherry and her mother
28:04and makes it apparent how much work will have to be done
28:07if they want to save their relationship.
28:09Come on, girls.
28:10They're having a fight over there.
28:12Oh, dear.
28:13You know what?
28:14No, you know what else?
28:14I said you can come home any time you want
28:17when you're happy.
28:19Yeah, well, I'm not happy around you, am I?
28:21Do you think that your mum treated you unfairly in some ways?
28:24I don't know, she didn't treat me right at all.
28:26She just expected everything.
28:28Is that what you're saying, that she treated you unfairly?
28:30That's your perception of it.
28:31It may not be true, but that's your perception of it right now.
28:34Yeah.
28:34You say to me that I have to change.
28:36Why do I always have to change?
28:37You have to do something, too.
28:39Maybe both of you have to change.
28:40But tell her that, because she doesn't seem to think that.
28:43She seems to think it's all me.
28:44Do you think that maybe what you have to develop is an adult,
28:47you being an adult right now,
28:49and another adult relationship here,
28:51maybe you need to learn how to talk with each other?
28:53Because when I hear you talking,
28:54all you're doing is shouting.
28:57Do you want to change this relationship, Cherry?
29:00I don't know.
29:02You've got three days now to start this new relationship.
29:06Both of you.
29:08You have to bury what's in the past,
29:10but you can start this new relationship,
29:12the relationship that you had before.
29:14It's not too late.
29:15It was good, Cherry.
29:19Abby's just kicked off and refused to help do the tent.
29:22She did it, some of it,
29:24but she won't put the pegs...
29:26We couldn't find the pegs,
29:27and she's saying that I'm not going to go at her,
29:28and I'm not.
29:29I'm just trying to get it done.
29:31So she's just walked off, doesn't want to be here,
29:34doesn't want to help put the tent up,
29:36and I'm not going to do it...
29:37I'm not going to put the pegs in until she comes back and helps.
29:41We've got to work together,
29:42or we're not going to get anywhere, are we?
29:45No, he's going to go home.
29:46There's no going home.
29:47We're here now.
29:48It's a couple of days.
29:50We'll make the best of it.
29:51A couple of days walking.
29:54I'll do it if you give me a peg.
29:55No, I'm not open to bribery.
29:58She ain't going to give me nothing.
30:00So what's the point?
30:01I'm not doing it.
30:02You shouldn't just do things to get something out of it,
30:05should you?
30:06I don't want to do it.
30:07If it was something I'd want to do, I'd do it.
30:09There's no talking to her.
30:10She's just like, you know,
30:12it's just her way or no way,
30:14and this is what I have to put up with all the time.
30:17And it's always bribery.
30:18Well, I'm not doing this if you're not going to let me have that.
30:21And I do give in to her.
30:23I have spoiled her,
30:24but I've had enough of it.
30:26I can't carry on like this.
30:28She's got to take responsibility for herself.
30:31I'm sick of it.
30:32Good morning.
30:33Good morning.
30:33Hey, what are we?
30:35Did we sleep well?
30:36No.
30:36Yes.
30:37No?
30:38Yes?
30:38No.
30:39Yeah.
30:39Yeah.
30:40So what happened this morning?
30:42Nothing.
30:43We've taken the tent down and Cherry wasn't very good.
30:44She started moaning at me.
30:46I asked her to help.
30:47Yes, and I was helping and you were moaning at me
30:49because it was my fault that I lost the bag.
30:51No, I asked if you got the bag.
30:53You didn't want to undo your bag to have a look,
30:55see if the bag was in there.
30:56I emptied my bag this morning.
30:58Are you all ready for today?
31:00I'm not ready for the walk, no.
31:01You're not ready for the walk?
31:04What are we walking to?
31:12Does this say something about your behaviour?
31:16No, it just says that we've had enough.
31:17It says we've had enough and we cannot cope in this environment.
31:20We don't need to cope.
31:20No one lives up here anyway.
31:22Okay, we're not asking you to live up here.
31:24We're asking you to walk off the moor.
31:25All these people are asking you right now,
31:27reasonably, can you all three get up
31:30and walk off the moor?
31:32You tell me exactly what this behaviour is achieving.
31:34Tell me.
31:35I've had enough.
31:36I don't want to do this stupid boot camp anymore.
31:40What's that coming over the hill?
31:42Is it a monster?
31:44Is it a monster?
31:46But nothing's going to change.
31:48This behaviour, no, is not going to change anything.
31:51All it's achieving is you three getting a lot of attention
31:53and that's it.
31:55Have you had enough attention, though?
31:56We've had enough of everything.
31:58Okay, let's go, then.
31:59No, we want to go home.
32:00And what do you think will happen by staying here?
32:02We'll ring an air ambulance.
32:03They'll come get us and they'll take us home.
32:05On the moors, yeah?
32:06Yeah.
32:07Where are you going to tell them to come and pick you up
32:08on the Derbyshire moors?
32:09They see us.
32:10Where is this?
32:12I don't know.
32:13They see us.
32:14Yeah, where is that?
32:15We've got our head down.
32:16We'll put them on.
32:16They'll see the lights.
32:17So are you going to tell them there's what?
32:18Seven blades of grass away from the fern branch?
32:21There are no ultimatums.
32:32You will not control this situation.
32:34You're not getting an air ambulance.
32:36You've got to get off the moor.
32:38Yeah.
32:38And sat here is doing what?
32:40We're going to get off the moors tomorrow.
32:41We want to get off the moors today.
32:43Tell me what this is achieving.
32:45The three of you sat here throwing a strop.
32:47What is it achieving?
32:49That's how you try and control your moors.
32:52I throw a strop, I get a cigarette.
32:55I throw a strop, I get my own way.
32:57I throw a strop, I go out late at night.
33:00I throw a strop, my mother gives in and gives me what I want.
33:03You're not getting what you want.
33:06I hate it.
33:07It's a horrible strop in the middle of nowhere.
33:10Nowhere to be seen, 20 kilometres.
33:14Abby, she's doing my head in.
33:18She stopped for an hour and half.
33:21I just want to pull her hair out.
33:23You're not achieving anything, mate.
33:24You're just going to sit here and get absolutely nothing.
33:28If you leave the moor, you can have a drink, do whatever.
33:31But you know what?
33:32You're getting absolutely nothing by sat here.
33:34I don't want nothing.
33:35I want to go home.
33:37You know what?
33:37This is an important lesson in life, an important lesson.
33:40You are not going to control these guys that are out here like you control your mother by
33:44throwing a strop.
33:45Everybody else is tired.
33:46Everybody else is hungry.
33:48Everybody else is carrying a backpack.
33:49Not you.
33:51You're just not achieving anything.
33:52Look, everybody's going to hate you for how you're behaving because you're making...
33:57I don't care.
33:57I'm never going to see them again.
33:58I don't give a...
33:59They all hate me.
34:00Yeah, but you should.
34:01I do not give a...
34:02Well, you're going to see me again, aren't you?
34:03You're putting me through all this as well.
34:05I don't care.
34:06I'm never going to meet any of these people ever again.
34:08Yeah, what about me?
34:08What about me?
34:09I live in London.
34:10They live all the way in.
34:11What about me?
34:13I don't care.
34:14You don't care about me.
34:15You don't care what you're doing to me.
34:17Two hours later, a cold, wet, reluctant Abby realises that she won't get her own way
34:23and starts to walk off the mountain.
34:25What happens when you don't follow the rules?
34:27I don't mind.
34:28You have a problem with authority, don't you?
34:30Because you have problems at school as well.
34:32And people tell you what to do.
34:34You don't like that, do you?
34:37But in life, people do tell you what to do.
34:39You just don't like that big word, no.
34:42Yeah?
34:43So can we work with that today?
34:45Trying to work better with that word, no.
34:46Yeah.
34:47Yeah?
34:48Excellent.
34:50The final task for the day is to set up camp, but it seems even the simplest task caused
34:54problems for our boot campers.
34:57We've lost our poles.
34:58We've lost the poles.
35:00At the top.
35:01Abby.
35:02What?
35:03Have a look in there, see if you can find the poles.
35:06I'm going home.
35:07I'm going to walk back to Milwaukee.
35:08There's a pub number.
35:09Yeah.
35:10Let's stay close.
35:12I can feel safe, but that ain't it.
35:13Can we have one of your tents, please?
35:26With one tent down, the group has to decide who is sleeping with who.
35:31Who's sleeping where?
35:33I think I'll sleep here.
35:35You're going to sleep there?
35:36I'm in there.
35:37Holly, which way do you want it to be?
35:40Kids in one, adults in another.
35:42Right, Cherry.
35:42Don't you're sleeping?
35:44Cherry.
35:44No, because you're not sleeping in there.
35:46Cherry, what do you want?
35:48I don't know, but either way, one of us kids are going to get left out.
35:53Cherry, which way do you want it?
35:54I don't know with Cherry.
35:56Abby.
35:56I don't know.
35:58As long as I can sleep.
36:00I don't like sleeping with my mum.
36:02You were all right last night.
36:03It's one night, Holly.
36:05Green camp is one night all the thousand nights.
36:07Well, it's only one night, so I'm sure you can put up with me for one night.
36:11Having two mums.
36:11I'll sleep outside.
36:13No, you won't.
36:14So all the children are saying they don't want to sleep with two adults?
36:20Shut up!
36:22Abby, what about if you're winning with me and Annette then?
36:25And Holly winning with...
36:26That's what they just said of, I don't want to be with two parents either.
36:30Especially with...
36:31I will walk off tonight.
36:37If?
36:39It's just bang out of order.
36:41What's bang out of order?
36:42Me sleeping with two parents.
36:44It's like the parents sleeping with two grannies.
36:47End of day two.
36:49And a lot of tired and emotional people over here.
36:52And the loss of the tent poles has been the final straw for these guys.
36:55It's going to be a tough hole for these people.
36:58And I'm not sure at this moment they're going to make it.
37:00How are we all?
37:02Fine, fine.
37:03Did you sleep well?
37:04No.
37:05No?
37:06Cold and wet.
37:07I think they're starting to realise that the consequences of packing a wet tent or, you know,
37:13not being very prepared.
37:15All three girls slept together.
37:16All three mums slept together.
37:17Is it comfortable?
37:19No.
37:20They were in bed about eight o'clock last night.
37:22And then we heard singing from the tents over there, a few lights on.
37:27And a bit of a ging-gang goole.
37:28It was a good laugh, actually.
37:30But even after three days of boot camp, the challenges keep on coming.
37:34What are we going to be wearing?
37:40Are we going to get wet from head to foot?
37:42Probably.
37:44Who wants to help me put my papers on?
37:46I'm going to break my armpit in this.
37:48You will get very wet, inside out, top to bottom.
37:56We've got a series of challenges for you.
37:58A little bit of climbs at waterfalls.
38:03Culminating at the end in a big jump into a pool.
38:18We had a chat about your relationship with your mum.
38:29And you said things have improved.
38:31How have they improved?
38:33We can get on.
38:35But it's just...
38:37There's no-one else here I can take my anger out on,
38:40so it has to be my mum.
38:41Right.
38:42And it wasn't her.
38:43I was nervous.
38:44It was just doing all that walking out of time.
38:46So it was important to tell your mum that it's not always her fault.
38:51You just get tired and emotional and angry,
38:53and then you vent your anger towards your mum.
38:56How would you rate your mum on a scale of one to ten
38:58if ten is the best mum in the world?
39:02Nine.
39:02Nine?
39:03Yeah?
39:04Is that good to hear?
39:05Yeah.
39:06Yeah?
39:07She cares a lot about me.
39:09She does?
39:09She's a great mum.
39:11And we've talked about that.
39:12Yeah, I know that now.
39:12You know that now?
39:14Number one couple, I think.
39:15Yeah.
39:16Are you impressed with yourselves?
39:21Yeah.
39:22Yeah?
39:23We work quite well together, yeah.
39:25What have you learned about yourselves?
39:28We're quite strong people.
39:30Yeah?
39:32We can work as a team.
39:34Even though sometimes we don't like each other,
39:36we can still work as a team.
39:38What have you learned about your relationship?
39:40But Holly, deep down, is a really nice girl,
39:46and I hope that when she goes home,
39:49that she'll be able to take that with her
39:50and use the things she's learned and thought about
39:55over the weekend with her.
39:57So you've noticed a change in her over the past three days?
40:01Yes.
40:02Positively.
40:02A nicer Holly.
40:03A nicer Holly.
40:05Brilliant.
40:05You're not level with your feet.
40:06Good girl.
40:07Feet flat on the wall, just walk you up.
40:08Please, for your mum?
40:10Felt of her?
40:10Yeah, I am.
40:11Brilliant.
40:12When you get angry, you stop speaking to your mum.
40:14It's really difficult, that situation.
40:16So what have you learned about that?
40:18Not to do it.
40:19Not to do it?
40:20I have to talk.
40:20You have to talk and not shout.
40:23Can you say three positive things about your mum
40:25that you've learned about her?
40:26She's fun to be with.
40:27I love her.
40:29She's my mum.
40:30And she helps me when it was hard.
40:34She encouraged me to do this.
40:36Can you say three positive things about Cherry?
40:39I've learned Cherry can be fun again,
40:40because all I've seen with Cherry lately is angry
40:43and not very nice.
40:45I've admired her determination.
40:46I didn't think she'd do it,
40:47and she's really struggled in places,
40:49but she's pushed herself and she's achieved it.
40:53No, it's just getting to know the old Cherry again.
40:55I'm not getting the grumpy Cherry
40:57that's been around for so long.
40:59Do you think this environment helps to bond you?
41:02Yeah, because we've got nothing else to do,
41:04apart from talk and being in the same space.
41:06There's no distraction.
41:07She can't turn the telly up loud and ignore me.
41:09She can't walk out the room.
41:11She can't go to her mates.
41:13You've just been able to focus on each other
41:15and your relationship for three full days,
41:17which is hard, isn't it?
41:18Yeah, yeah.
41:19But it's worked in some ways.
41:21I'm really pleased you've worked really well.
41:28Right after this break,
41:29the girls are back on the show with their mums,
41:31and we find out what had changed.
41:33I need to touch on last night for a reason.
41:36Annette, you were very honest.
41:37You said that I worked hard and so did Holly.
41:39We came back to civilisation and it all went wrong.
41:42Why?
41:48Well, welcome back.
41:49Today we're looking back over the past six years
41:51of the Jeremy Kyle Show,
41:52and before that break,
41:53we were visiting our most memorable tearaway teens.
41:56Let's see if the boot camp had changed any of them
41:59for the better.
42:01Now, obviously, I've had a couple of conversations and reports.
42:06You did some amazing stuff,
42:08but there were moments, as we've seen on the VT.
42:11Abby having a moment on the moors and the campsite.
42:15You know, Cherry and Yvonne on day one on the moor.
42:19But then there was achievements as well.
42:20When Holly climbed that rock, that was fantastic.
42:22Look at her, terrified.
42:23You know, and you're doing your abseil cherry as well.
42:26And Abby, you know, I loved it when you said I love my mum,
42:29but I just like getting my own way.
42:32How was it?
42:32Yeah, it was tough, absolutely.
42:34And we've had our high moments and low moments.
42:37And, Abby, it's been fantastic working with you.
42:41It really has, because I've seen such movement with you
42:43in your relationship with your mum.
42:45Rebellious at times, and it's been tough.
42:48But you've got a really good mum there,
42:50and you know that, don't you?
42:51Yeah.
42:52What was he like up on the moors?
42:55He done well.
42:56Did he?
42:56Yeah.
42:57He came back looking very professional.
42:59We move along to Annette and Holly.
43:02You said Holly was the leader.
43:03She was the leader of the girls, definitely.
43:06And the girls followed willingly.
43:09And when we had certain times when the girls were not cooperative,
43:14I think Holly was there in the centre.
43:16Annette, one of the things that came through from the last show,
43:20bless you, was that you and Holly were so distanced, if you like,
43:25you'd forgotten how to talk to each other,
43:27you to her, she to you.
43:28Did that improve?
43:29Did Graham help with that?
43:30Well, while we were on the moors, yes.
43:34Once we hit civilisation yesterday,
43:37everything that I'd worked for with Holly went down the tube.
43:42We'll talk about that in a minute.
43:43Let's move along to Yvonne and Cherry.
43:45What did they do?
43:47They did great.
43:48What was really interesting here is that I was on the moors,
43:52waiting for these two to arrive,
43:54and then I had a message that said Cherry refuses to share a room with her mum.
44:00So we had all the production team running round saying,
44:02let's get a room for Cherry quickly.
44:05And on our return journey from the moors,
44:07Cherry wanted to share a room with her mum.
44:10So I think that demonstrates that we have made some progress there in that relationship.
44:13Some progress, but work to do.
44:15Yeah, still work to be done there.
44:19Yvonne, did you enjoy it?
44:21Strangely, yeah, I suppose, yeah.
44:23What about you and Cherry?
44:24Did the two of you feel that there was progress made?
44:28Yeah, I feel we've moved on.
44:29I feel that we can now build a new relationship.
44:33I need to touch on last night for a reason.
44:35Annette, you were very honest.
44:36You said that I worked hard and so did Holly.
44:39We came back to civilisation and it all went wrong.
44:41Why?
44:42On the way back, I said to Holly, she said she was going out.
44:46I said, no, Holly, you can't go out.
44:48I got a phone call at about 11 o'clock.
44:51We're bringing two boys back to the hotel.
44:54I went, you're not.
44:55You will not get them through the door because I will go and tell them.
44:59Is that true?
45:00Yeah.
45:01Who did you get out with?
45:02Who did I go out with?
45:03Cherry.
45:04What did you feel about that?
45:07It's slightly different because Cherry's over 16 and I didn't know nothing about the boys.
45:10No, but let's be totally honest.
45:11I didn't know nothing about the boys.
45:12Let's be totally honest about your approach.
45:13Your approach was it's okay.
45:15I didn't know nothing about it until Annette told me this morning because Cherry had gone out.
45:18They came back and sat with me at 12 o'clock.
45:21They came in and sat in the bar.
45:23I think the thing is, right, I hope everybody can just take this.
45:27It's not for us, I think, to say you did well, you did badly.
45:31The boot camp is but a starting point, okay?
45:34And I think that there was enough in terms of what you might have got from it.
45:38Now, it might all go wrong.
45:39It might actually change your life.
45:42All we can do on the show is give you a glimpse.
45:45I said at the beginning, his first words with Johnny, who rang the thing for us brilliantly, was,
45:51my God, those parents, bless them.
45:52I mean, you know, honestly.
45:54Can I just say, I think what we've achieved over these past few days,
45:58if we can achieve what you've seen us achieve on the film,
46:02like the rock climbing and the abseiling, trekking, everything else,
46:07if we can achieve all that, we can achieve anything, I think.
46:09I agree.
46:10Fantastic.
46:14Is this the first step, is it?
46:16Yeah, yeah.
46:18You know, there's a famous saying, isn't there?
46:20Keep doing what you do, you'll get what you get.
46:22So if you're doing good things, you'll get good things.
46:23If you're doing bad things, you'll get bad things.
46:25And if you want to change anything, you can do it.
46:29So what you don't know now, and I will say a massive thank you to Alison Abbey,
46:33Annette and Holly, Yvonne and Cherry, we'll ask you to leave in just a tick.
46:36And our surprise for you, Graham, is that we're sending you back this afternoon
46:39to the Moors for another four days on your own.
46:41I hope you don't know.
46:42Ladies and gentlemen, Graham and the bad girls.
46:46Now, I recently got back in touch with all of the girls and their mums
46:49to see how they've been getting on.
46:50Cherry told me that, unfortunately, after the show,
46:52my relationship with my mum went downhill.
46:54We didn't have any contacts until the beginning of this year.
46:57But we've now, which is great, resolved our issues.
46:59And it's like we never fell out.
47:01I'm expecting my first child in January, and I cannot wait to be a mum.
47:05Yvonne, Cherry's mum, says that things were tough for a while, Jez,
47:08but now Cherry and I are closer than ever.
47:10She's changed a lot.
47:12And I think the prospect of becoming a mum has really made her grow up.
47:15I'm really looking forward to the arrival of my first grandchild.
47:19Annette told me that since the show,
47:21things have been much better between Holly and I.
47:23She did move out when she was 16,
47:25which was the hardest decision I've ever had to make.
47:28But it was also the best,
47:29because since then she's grown up and she's about to start college.
47:32And Holly said,
47:33since the show,
47:34things have been so much better between me and mum, Jez.
47:37I've grown up since the show.
47:38I'm going to college,
47:39and I'm even getting married in December.
47:42Sharon tells us that Sabrina and she are completely different people now.
47:45We got on better than ever.
47:47Sabrina is always there for me,
47:49and if I ever need anything,
47:50I just pick up the phone or vice versa.
47:52I'm really proud, Jez,
47:53of how she's turned her life around.
47:56Sabrina says,
47:56Jez, my life has changed so much since that show.
47:59I'm now engaged with a 13-month-old son.
48:01I wouldn't change the past,
48:03as it's made me who I am,
48:04but I'm very happy that I now have a strong relationship with my mum.
48:08And finally, Alison.
48:09She tells us that it didn't happen straight away,
48:11but things are great between me and Abby now.
48:14She's training to be a hairdresser,
48:16and she even acts as a mentor to young students,
48:18which is great.
48:19I've started working again, too,
48:21and now we're more like best friends than mother and daughter.
48:24I wish all of them the very best,
48:26because I could work for them.
48:27I am, though, for this morning out of time.
48:28Thanks for watching.
48:29I'll see you soon.
48:30Take care.
48:30Bye for now.
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