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00:00Sous-titrage Société Radio-Canada
00:30Oman, where high-stakes talks are beginning between Iran and the United States amid ongoing tensions over Iran's nuclear programme and the government's crackdown on protesters.
00:39Ahead of the talks, which nearly didn't happen, the White House says President Trump wants a deal that ensures, quote, zero nuclear capability.
00:47But if that doesn't happen, he has many other options at his disposal.
00:51Trump has even threatened a massive armada if the Iranians don't come to the table.
00:55So, for the latest, let's turn to your news correspondent, Shona Murray, who's following the talks very closely for us.
01:01Good morning, Shona.
01:02Good morning, Maeve.
01:02So, look, what should we expect from these talks and what exactly is at stake today?
01:06Well, I mean, what's at stake is really destabilisation of the whole region, which is a massive thing.
01:11We're talking about what Trump is saying to the Iranians, saying there's going to be a massive armada, that the Ayatollah, the Supreme Leader of Iran should be worried.
01:18We don't know exactly what the Americans are trying to extract from the Iranians.
01:22Now, you mentioned there, obviously, the end to nuclear capabilities, which is something that they may give into, because we saw from Operation Midnight Hammer last year that there was a huge destruction of their capabilities.
01:32But we also heard from Marco Rubio, the U.S. Secretary of State, yesterday, saying that he wants them to end their ballistic missile programme and their sponsorship of terrorist regimes.
01:41The Europeans would like to see them end their drone programme, which, of course, supports the Russians in Ukraine.
01:46So, will they give in to all these concessions? Will they have to allow the United States into the Iranian oil market?
01:53Now, the regime itself, as we know, is very weak. The economy is really in freefall.
01:57Inflation is very high. The currency is very, very low at the moment.
02:00There's been decades of economic mismanagement, deep systemic corruption.
02:04And then we saw those massive protests in Iran over the last few weeks, where we know at least 6,000 people were killed with the regime, but up to around 17,000 to 20,000 could potentially have been killed.
02:15So, that's why we're actually at this table right now.
02:18So, there was also a discussion over the last few weeks about regime change.
02:21And I caught up with Ehud Olmert, who's the former Israeli prime minister.
02:25Now, we know Israel has obviously had major confrontations with Iran over the past few years and also in the last few months.
02:30And I asked him whether he was optimistic or how he felt about these talks in general.
02:35Don't underestimate the Iranians.
02:39They are smart, they are cunning, they are manipulative, and they are playing a game.
02:46I don't think that any negotiations will change it.
02:50So, with all the respect that I have for President Trump and his threats,
02:57I don't think that even a massive American attack will change the regime.
03:03At the end, it will be changed from within by the people of Iran.
03:08I had Olmert there with a very clear message for Donald Trump.
03:11And Shona, we heard as well during the week, regional powers putting a lot of pressure on President Trump not to attack, calling for dialogue.
03:18That's right.
03:19I mean, that's why we have this dialogue right now.
03:21And over the past few weeks, when Donald Trump has been sabre-rattling the Iranians, regional powers, even the Saudi Arabians have been saying,
03:27please do not engage in any airstrikes.
03:29We don't need any further destabilisation.
03:32We heard from people like Anwar Gargash, who's an advisor to the President of the UAE during the week,
03:36saying that the Iranians should use this opportunity to rebuild their economy, rebuild their relationship with the United States.
03:43We heard the same from the Lebanese Prime Minister, who said that Lebanon won't support Iran in this regard.
03:48So hope that there will be no further destabilisation.
03:52But we don't know if that's going to happen.
03:54Remember, last time Iran and the United States were engaged in diplomatic talks, that's when the Americans struck Iran last year.
04:00So we'll see what happens.
04:01But it won't be ended in just one day.
04:03It will not.
04:04Deeply complicated and deeply complex.
04:06Shona Murray, thank you so much for keeping across that story.
04:09For us, and from one deal to another, you might have heard the last nuclear arms control agreement
04:14between the United States and Russia has reached its expiry date,
04:19though 11th-hour talks are reportedly working to prolong it.
04:23The two sides are looking at a brand new START treaty, which would limit the size of nuclear arsenals
04:28and ensure inspections.
04:30For more, Sasha Vakilini now joins me in the studio.
04:33Sasha, tell us, why has this not been renewed yet?
04:35Bring us up to speed.
04:36Now, this is the very first time in over 50 years, half a century,
04:40when the US and Russia do not have any legally binding agreement limiting their nuclear forces.
04:46Now, let that settle in, that thought.
04:49This is hugely important.
04:50Now, at the same time, we have to say that the US and Russia,
04:52they do have 90% of all of the nuclear weapons in the world.
04:57This is the scale of the situation we are now talking about.
05:00Now, the latest one actually expired in 2021,
05:04but there was an automatic extension till February 2026,
05:08and the sides were kind of mentioning the possibility of extending it, but not yet.
05:12Now, both have certain demands, and at the same time,
05:15what we've heard from Moscow ever since specifically its full-scale invasion of Ukraine
05:18is numerous threats to use its nuclear weapons, both against Ukraine and against the West.
05:24Moscow also actually changed its nuclear doctrine, making it easier to go into nuclear weapons.
05:29This time, this is what Dmitry Peskov, the press person of the Kremlin,
05:33had to say regarding the possible extension.
05:36He said that we view this negatively, the expiration, and express our regret.
05:41Our initiative to maintain the nuclear arms control limits for another year,
05:45even after the treaty expires, has also remained unanswered.
05:49Now, it did not really remain unanswered, maybe.
05:52The United States and the Donald Trump administration responded to that,
05:56except they do have certain demands.
05:58Now, let's take a listen to the U.S. Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.
06:01The president's been clear in the past that in order to have true arms control in the 21st century,
06:07it's impossible to do something that doesn't include China
06:09because of their vast and rapidly growing stockpile.
06:12China's nuclear forces are not at all on the same scale as those of the U.S. and Russia,
06:18and thus, China will not participate in nuclear disarmament negotiations at the current stage.
06:23Russia has suggested that the two sides continue to observe the core limits of the treaty.
06:27China calls for the U.S. to respond positively,
06:30handle follow-up arrangements of the treaty in a responsible manner,
06:32and resume strategic stability dialogue with Russia at an early date.
06:36Indeed, China has around 600 warheads, Maeve.
06:42This compares to over 5,000 that the U.S. and Russia have each of those countries.
06:48And yet, China's been growing massively,
06:50adding over 100 warheads each year to its nuclear arsenal.
06:55So there are reasons for concern there,
06:56and this is the strategy from the United States.
06:59Indeed, reasons for concern.
07:00Sasha, and where does that leave the nuclear arms race then?
07:03Well, this race has been on already for a while.
07:05Both the United States, Russia, and China, as we just discussed now,
07:10they've been investing heavily in modernizing their nuclear arsenal.
07:14Now, the difference here is that Russia's been more vocal about it.
07:16Now, in November 24 and then in January 26,
07:20Russia actually used its conventional version of Oreshnik intermediate-range ballistic missile
07:25and also tested what it called the doomsday's weapon,
07:27the Poseidon nuclear-powered and possibly nuclear-carrying drone,
07:31publicly speaking about it to the world.
07:33Okay, Sasha Vecchelina, thank you so much for that update.
07:37And actually, just yesterday, we saw the U.N. Secretary-General, Antonio Guterres,
07:40warning that the risk of a nuclear weapon being used is the highest in decades.
07:44But now, coming up, we will be joined by Ben Hodges,
07:47the retired U.S. Army Lieutenant-General
07:49and former Commanding General of U.S. Army Europe.
07:53He's a well-known commentator on international affairs and defence issues.
07:56So we're thrilled to have him this morning with us on Europe Today.
07:59Good morning, Ben. Great to see you again.
08:00Thanks for coming on.
08:02Well, Maeve, thank you for having me back.
08:04Look, given these talks that we're all focused on today in Oman,
08:07the recent U.S. force buildup, and Trump's, of course, comments that the Supreme Leader should be very worried,
08:12what do you expect to come out of today?
08:16Unfortunately, nothing of real significance.
08:18I mean, I agree completely with what former Prime Minister Omer just said on your show.
08:26The Iranians are playing the game.
08:29They see that the U.S. president really does not want to do anything,
08:34and also that the Americans have not thought through what comes after a potential strike.
08:40I mean, we're good at the strike part,
08:42but we're not very good traditionally at figuring out what comes after that.
08:46And I don't think we know enough and don't have a plan for who would replace the regime
08:52or what would come in after it.
08:55And so I am honestly a bit skeptical.
09:00And I have to say I'm also very unhappy that the president inspired protesters to come out in the street
09:05and take over their institutions, and he encouraged people to come out, and then we did zero.
09:10So no telling how many thousands of Iranians were killed on the false hope that the U.S. was about to intervene.
09:17So you're very pessimistic about today.
09:19Do you think these talks, though, could be de-escalatory or a final warning perhaps before Trump's military action?
09:25Well, maybe a final warning might be part of it.
09:29But even if it is a final warning, unless we know what comes next, I don't know that this is a very good idea.
09:41Now, certainly the United States and probably some regional allies have built up a lot of capability in the region.
09:47But it seems that most of our allies actually are pushing hard against any kind of a strike
09:53because obviously they would suffer from some of the Iranian retaliation.
09:59And so we're really feeling it now.
10:01The United States, even with all of its capability, if you don't have a lot of allies with you to do certain things,
10:06it reduces the amount of pressure you can put on adversaries.
10:11And our viewers are probably thinking this morning as well, is the world even ready or able for another war?
10:15Well, I will tell you this.
10:19The president and his administration have not prepared the American people for another war.
10:24I mean, he campaigned on no never-ending wars, you know.
10:29And in fact, the idea of going into Iran with troops would be, in my view, would be a disaster.
10:36I mean, you're talking about a very large country.
10:39And for what purpose?
10:40It's just not clear that they have thought this all the way through, in my view.
10:45And as you heard earlier from Sasha Vakilina on SESH, this talks between the Americans and the Russians on a nuclear deal.
10:51Do you agree with the statement of Antonio Guterres, what he said yesterday,
10:56the risk now of a nuclear weapon being used is the highest it's been in decades?
11:00I think that there's always a risk, but I think it's extremely unlikely because the Russians do not, would benefit nothing from having a, using a nuclear weapon.
11:17So I don't think it's the highest.
11:18I don't know that those kinds of comparisons are useful.
11:21The fact is, once again, if all of our allies were with us, putting pressure on Russia, then I think we'd have a better chance of getting back to an agreement.
11:32And just on Ukraine, we saw Ukraine and Russia concluding those talks in Abu Dhabi yesterday, Ben.
11:37No breakthrough, though, towards ending Europe's most deadly conflict since the Second World War.
11:41Do you think they'll ever be able to break this impasse?
11:45I don't think so, for two reasons.
11:47Number one, the Russians have not changed a bit any of their maximalist demands.
11:51I mean, they absolutely are not backing away from anything that they wanted four years ago.
11:57And on the American side, the administration has never cared about the origin of the conflict.
12:04They have only been interested in getting a deal of some sort.
12:08And I think that they don't, they look at this as a gigantic real estate transaction, you know, that like blocks of apartments in Manhattan versus parts of a sovereign country.
12:19And that's why Brussels is worried, too.
12:20Just briefly, this idea of an EU envoy to talk to Putin, is that a good idea?
12:25Well, I think Europe has allowed itself to be sidelined, thinking that somehow the Americans were going to handle it.
12:31And it's clear to me that the American approach has been doomed from the beginning.
12:37But the American side has no respect for Europe.
12:39The Russians have no respect for Europe.
12:41So the Russians have to, the Europeans have to get their own seat at the table, even if they have to make their own table.
12:49OK, Ben Hodges, thank you so much for joining us once again here on Europe Today.
12:54Well, now, moving on to another major story that we're watching this week, and it's about social media.
12:59Brussels has come out in defence of Spain and a number of other EU countries planning to tighten control over digital platforms.
13:07Speaking in Dubai earlier this week, Pedro Sánchez said he would be banning social media usage for under-16s.
13:13For more, David Artiles from our Madrid office sent us this update.
13:17Good morning from Madrid.
13:19As Pedro Sánchez announced, Spain is set to ban social media for everyone under-16.
13:24Sanchez has labelled the digital world as a failed state, vowing to rescue minors from a digital Wild West, where he says crimes go unpunished.
13:33The plan is bold.
13:34The Spanish government will mandate strict age verification and hold tech executives criminally liable for illegal contents.
13:41They even aim to outlaw the manipulation of algorithms on platforms like Instagram and TikTok.
13:47The backlash was instant.
13:49Telegram's Pavel Drov warned of total control on the internet, while Elon Musk branded our prime minister as a tyrant.
13:57Sánchez, however, is unfazed, dismissing the barking of the tech giants as proof that Spain is on the right track.
14:04That was David Artiles there reporting from Madrid for us.
14:08And now for the view from the European Parliament, we can actually bring in MEP Alexander Gies from the Green Party.
14:13Good morning, Alexander.
14:14Lovely to have you with us.
14:16Look, this social media ban for under-16s, it's gaining momentum in many EU countries, but we're seeing a huge backlash from big tech.
14:24What is your view here?
14:26Good morning and thanks for having me.
14:28I think the social media ban for minors is a last resort solution.
14:33I'm not a fan in the beginning, but I think it has gone so far.
14:38The hate and the violence, the illegal content that is pushed to our kids, that our kids do not choose,
14:44but that people like Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk choose to give to our kids,
14:51that a last resort solution should be something that we need to consider.
14:55And we're seeing now many EU countries contemplating bringing in their own legislation.
15:01Could we then not kind of see a patchwork across the 27?
15:04That is indeed a huge problem.
15:07And we did approve the Digital Services Act in the European Union in the past years to avoid exactly that problem.
15:14The issue with the Digital Services Act is that for the very large online platforms such the likes of X or the Instagram or TikTok,
15:25the European Commission is responsible for enforcement and the European Commission has not been enforcing this piece of legislation robustly enough.
15:34There are consistent threats from the U.S. administration against the European Commission not to enforce that piece of legislation,
15:43not to protect our citizens, not to protect our kids.
15:46And I think this attitude has to change.
15:48The European Commission has to do something against the toxic algorithms, against the hate and the violence.
15:53And it needs to protect our kids.
15:55And that's why many in the Parliament want to move on with this ban, this social media ban for under-16s.
16:01But the big question, of course, is how do you verify the age of a digital user?
16:05Is it even feasible?
16:07Well, it is feasible, but we do not have a technical solution yet that allows to identify a user,
16:15or better to just verify the age of the user without using or ID or biometric data.
16:21And therefore, we need to develop that solution very quickly.
16:25And I'm hearing it's coming in the next month where you can only disclose that single trait.
16:31So being over-16 or under-16, over or under-18, because I would very strongly advise against using or ID or biometric data,
16:40because that biometric data can be used to train AI.
16:43And we have seen on GROC how relentlessly that data is used for intimate images, for example.
16:49Alexander Grisa, we'll have to leave it there.
16:50Thank you so much, though, for joining us this Friday morning.
16:54And it is indeed Friday the 6th of February, which means after months of prep and going way over budget,
17:00the Winter Olympics get underway today in Milan-Cortina.
17:02Among the VIPs there invited are the US Vice President J.D. Vance and the French President Emmanuel Macron.
17:08Jacob Yanis has more.
17:09Today, the Winter Olympics return to Europe.
17:15The snow cannons are ready, but nature was faster, covering the Italian slopes in the real thing.
17:22And the International Olympic Committee promises the emotions will be just as real.
17:28So who will be the winner?
17:30Early data showed Americans drive over a third of foreign spending.
17:36And the bills are huge.
17:37Australians average over 2,500 euros per booking, while the Dutch pay over 1,300.
17:45And what about the Italians?
17:47Because tickets are quite pricey, it looks like many of them are staying home.
17:52But maybe it is easier to watch from the sofa.
17:55These are the most dispersed Olympics in history, spreading over 22,000 square kilometers.
18:02So if you want to see skiing after skating, get yourself ready for a 5-hour drive.
18:09And the organizers promise these games will be green.
18:12So let's cross fingers for that and hope it doesn't end like Sochi 2014 Winter Games in Russia.
18:19And that ended with illegal waste dumps in the national parks and a massive price tag fueled by corruption.
18:26However, we won't see their flag this time, as Russia is banned because of its invasion of Ukraine.
18:33In a recent survey, the majority of them foresee a positive regional impact and lasting improvements to infrastructure and transport.
18:45And if they are right, the lasting price won't be the skiing, but a region finally connected for good.
18:52Let's just hope that during this Olympics, the only ice locals have to deal with is the one on the mountains.
19:05Jakob Janis there.
19:06And if you are watching the games from your sofa this weekend, enjoy.
19:10And if you're watching us this morning from the UK, Ireland, Portugal or Morocco,
19:14where serious rainfall has seen many evacuated from their home, please stay safe and stay dry.
19:19But this brings this edition of Europe Today to an end.
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