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Mumbai, Maharashtra: Actor Naseeruddin Shah while talking about his short film “IT’S ONLY 47°C,” said that it is important to realise the problem and maybe find a solution for the future. He also spoke openly about the survival of the Earth without humans and shared his thoughts on the future.


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00:00For almost 50 years of Motley and you start a company called Motley Movies, you make a short film, Man Woman, Man Woman, and then you produce a film like this one. So what draws you to that medium in this time and why this film?
00:14I made Man Woman because that was a real life story which happened with two friends of mine and I just thought it would make a wonderful story. It is a wonderful story and I didn't want to act in it myself because I think it's too much of a burden to try that.
00:41I hadn't planned to launch Motley Movies as an organization or anything until I met with Harish and learnt about his travels, his work, the research he's been doing and I was very moved by what he told me about himself and about his concerns.
01:09And again, I think we lost contact for a while but then he came back to me with the suggestion that this is a movie that I want to make and H. Paul will be directing it.
01:21And so I just said yes, instinctively. I always believed that the only significant purpose cinema can serve is to act as a record of its times. And this seemed right up that alley. It just seemed to me a film that is trying out to be made.
01:43And of course we had to make it on a very shoestring starvation budget. But I know all about such reviews. And I was very happy that it got made successfully.
02:01I, as Shirish Joshi himself confessed, I am not a researcher on climate. I don't know much about the technicalities of it. I have learnt what I have learnt from Harish and from my own experiences of not having seen a blue sky in this city for months.
02:24The sea here, it looks like gum. It started snowing in places where it never used to rain. It started raining in places where people's homes are not prepared for the rains.
02:41And so it did set me thinking. There are days when unseasonal rains grew in the nigo crop or the rice crop. These are things that I didn't encounter. And though I have to confess, I am one of the guilty party.
03:01We don't live in an air-conditioned house, but we have done our bit to pollute the atmosphere. I don't know what amends we can make, but I think it's important to at least realize that you're doing this.
03:17And maybe find a solution for the future. And for ourselves really. As one of my favorite stand-up comics called George Carlin says to me, we have climatologists who are worrying about the survival of the earth.
03:37Because the earth has survived for millions of years without humans. It survived ice storms, it has survived fire storms, it has survived hits from outer space, it has survived floods, it has survived earthquakes, it has survived everything.
03:52We don't need to worry about the earth. The earth can look after itself. We should worry about ourselves.
03:57We are the ones who are going to be affected. And this statement had a great impact on me. So I just decided to do my bit.
04:05Which is all at the moment that I can do. I am committed to a certain kind of work. And I felt that making this film was a natural follow-up to what I believed.
04:22Thank you. You speak of the carbon footprint that all of us need to be given in Afghanistan.
04:28So Paige, a film that has probably the smallest carbon footprint of films that I have seen in recent times.
04:34And you make it on a starvation party. Most of your films before this have been from a child's perspective.
04:40What brought this shift to a subject of this sort?
04:44So for me, as a child, what I see is an honest expression.
04:52Because a child, in a child's eyes, can never be dishonest.
04:59And as we grow up, there are a lot of layers.
05:04To hide things, to avoid mistakes, to support the wrong way.
05:08So as a child, I was born in a small village. I am a farmer's son.
05:17And this was my father.
05:19So when I was a kid, I was a kid.
05:22So when I was a kid, my father passed away. I was 13, 14 years old.
05:30So that, there had an impact on me. I felt emptiness inside me.
05:35Which somehow I could not address. And I have raised questions.
05:39So I was asked, I said, no answer always.
05:42I don't always say that. I am not saying that.
05:44I am not saying that. I am not saying that.
05:46But that always kept me inside.
05:48So somehow, when I started writing, that's when I could address that.
05:53And so on. And for this film, it's something, Harish has inspired me to do this.
06:01And from the, because Sarni Bola, she said Sarni Bola,
06:06we don't know much about climate change.
06:08As a storyteller, how I can contribute to this.
06:12I can write stories.
06:14And I have such big support from SIR, and then civic studios came on.
06:19They supported us and made this film happen.
06:22So I can, I will go on telling stories about relevant issues.
06:27Of course.
06:30Harish, everybody is talking about you.
06:33You seem to be the powerhouse that set this volume motion.
06:36So just tell us where that impulse, that first instinct to tell stories
06:41around this gig came from.
06:42Because, you know, subjects like this or even issues like this,
06:45they're just so overwhelming and so ubiquitous and so everywhere
06:50most of us don't know where to begin.
06:52How do you find that starting point?
06:54Okay, let's tell a story.
06:55Let's make a film.
06:56Let's get these kind of people together.
06:58I think with climate, what happens is, why it's happening and how it affects,
07:05actually is very simple.
07:06Which is that we've lost it in all the lecture stuff that happens around it.
07:11So, I don't teach for a good some time now.
07:14I have basically worked out the same cafe in many years.
07:17And that's how I bumped into it.
07:19But for four, four years, four, five years now, I've seen it come and write a video.
07:23I've had the pleasure of reading the scripts here and there once in a while.
07:27But we've been good friends.
07:28So, I think it's a conversation that this guy and I have had over these years.
07:33Because I was working on my bunch of ideas, he was working on his stuff.
07:37So, it's a lot of bad conversation.
07:39Don't just random conversations around, like I would talk to him about all the frustrating things that are happening,
07:44all the good things that are happening in climate, what I'm up to.
07:47And I think he probably absorbed all of that.
07:50And at some point he came back saying that, I've written this out of people, sort of thing.
07:58But Naseeh, sir, I've interacted with him before.
08:02So, I think 2020, 2021, I was in an Antarctic expedition.
08:07He was a big supporter of that quality time for me.
08:09This was a climate experiment of sorts.
08:12So, I remember the sir was very cheap and he really wanted to do that conversation.
08:18When you work in climate, you very frequently come across individuals who are not really, like,
08:23they're all curious but then the questions are not, like, far up.
08:27But he had really spoken on questions, right, from the first conversation.
08:31So, I knew that he was quite in it.
08:33I'm like, at least I could see that he was concerned that he felt to need to know more,
08:36without, without just, he was really listening to the things that were happening in.
08:41So, I think that is how, so this was these very organic networks that I have filled out.
08:46I've been working with, so I've done all the writing, basically experimenting with different media
08:52in terms of how do you bring the conversation to public discourse in the most simplest form.
08:57Because, like, we have these other groups where we have all these really dense conversations
09:00and that will happen because there are things around policy that are dense.
09:04But it doesn't have to be that, but I think the entry point into the conversation doesn't have to be that dense.
09:10It can be simple.
09:12The script that he put in was brilliant.
09:15If you notice, it touches all the points and it touches the whole idea of growth and the fact that it's us
09:23and our emissions that are causing it, it's not nature.
09:25That there is an inequity in how it's going to affect.
09:29There are certain sections of the society that will survive its worst form and some will not.
09:34And so, I'm like, these are things that he, everything was right there on the script in many ways.
09:38He just felt very natural to just come on the project and then to give this man a call saying that
09:44when you want to do this stuff, I think there's a good way to doing this.
09:48So, it's just very organic with you.
09:50And, yeah, I'm just, yeah, it's very organic in that sense.
09:53Yeah, because of film in what, under 12 minutes, 13 minutes, touches upon almost every point that you've touched.
10:00Yeah, exactly.
10:01Almost impossible to do in the story.
10:03Yeah.
10:04And just to add, I think, the idea was that, it was not, the whole idea of the film was to say that
10:10everybody gets it.
10:12They may not use the jargon, but they get it.
10:15Everybody gets it.
10:17You don't need to know the high technical words.
10:21Right?
10:22You know that it's coming.
10:23You know that some suffer more than the others.
10:25You know why it's happening.
10:27We can talk about markets and all that stuff.
10:30But there is no doubt that, you don't need that language to understand what's going on
10:35and how it can come out of the world.
10:37I think Teja did a wonderful job with unloading the errors without any jargon.
10:41We're really conscious that we would not use any China jargon throughout this film.
10:46Which is common understanding, common language.
10:49Because everybody gets it.
10:51Everybody gets it.
10:52Everybody knows that we are facing an apocalypse.
10:53Everybody knows that, as Masih said, that everybody is going to die.
10:54The plan that we carry on.
10:55Yet, there are people in power who don't want to address this.
10:56And yet, you and your group carry on relentlessly as volunteers.
10:58How, where do you find that stamina?
10:59And this particular journey with storytelling.
11:00Where do you see this going?
11:01How far can you guys take this?
11:03You can go quite, you know, you started off by saying that, you know, this movie touches.
11:04It didn't touch me, it hit me.
11:05You know?
11:06One, you know, you know, you know, you know, you are going to die.
11:07The plan that we carry on.
11:08The plan that we carry on.
11:09Yet, there are people in power who don't want to address this.
11:10And yet, you and your group carry on relentlessly as volunteers.
11:13How, where do you find that stamina and this particular journey with storytelling, where do
11:20you see this going?
11:21How far can you guys take this?
11:22You can go quite.
11:24You know, you started off this by saying that, you know, this movie touches.
11:26It didn't touch me, it hit me.
11:27You know?
11:28Yeah, I'd like to do it.
11:29You know, you know, Nasiya sah said there's a pouda.
11:30But, you know, there's a pouda in all of us.
11:31Whatever the age is, it's never too late to start.
11:32That's, that's the other part I'd like to take away.
11:33And as you said, you know, I'm doing my bit.
11:35That way, and that's the strength that we get.
11:36Because can we, in each one of us, can we do our bit?
11:41Now, the challenge is, I'm doing my bit.
11:46That way, and that's the strength that we get.
11:51Because can we, in each one of us, can we do our bit?
11:54Now, the challenge is, I may not know what emissions are all about.
11:57You know, so many of us may not know.
11:59But, which is okay, absolutely.
12:01But, there's something I can do.
12:03When we started off with Project Mumbai, our strength was,
12:06there is a kindness in everybody.
12:08We all have, as I think, Manabhai has so many hattiyans,
12:12in each one of us, there's a kindness.
12:15Can we start using that kindness bone in all of us?
12:19Our effort is to make Mumbai the country's kindness capital.
12:22My kindness can be...
12:24Now, in this movie, each one of us can pick out something.
12:27I might see the innocence of that lucky girl.
12:29Somebody could see the hard work that that lady is doing cooking.
12:34Or the traffic policeman.
12:36Every one of us can be different.
12:38From my perspective, what can I do if I can go there?
12:43I have to do what I can do.
12:45I have to do what I can do.
12:46I have to do what I can do.
12:47Now, just to give a small example.
12:49Can I start carrying a bottle of water if you're travelling by car?
12:53Please remember, don't change your lives.
12:55Don't say, I'll stop going in the car, I'll go in the car.
12:59Don't try to put yourself through those hardships that will kill yourself.
13:02But if you're travelling by road, carry a bottle of water.
13:05If you see a cop, hand over the bottle of water to that cop.
13:09Don't try to put off your ACs and then you'll fall ill because you're not able to cope with that.
13:14Live a life which you can give you strength, help others and give you one small example
13:19and that relates to what you asked me.
13:21During COVID, there were a bunch of nice people that we worked with
13:24and there are nice people everywhere.
13:26When the film industry reached out to us to say, we've got vanity vans
13:31and can you do some help, we worked together on that.
13:35And there were 17 vanity vans which were given to us.
13:39And what do we do with vanity vans?
13:41We were helping Needy with food, the by-prints, travelling.
13:45We got the vanity van, we spoke to the Mumbai police commissioner
13:48and we said, now when you saw this traffic police van,
13:51all of us travel by road.
13:52When we see cops on the road,
13:54you can always think that if I'm standing in 5 minutes,
13:57what will happen to you?
13:58But we don't think, we must see.
14:01Now that traffic cop, those stories stayed with us.
14:04During COVID, we didn't even let relatives come home.
14:08Those who are shut.
14:09Now imagine, where would traffic cops go?
14:11Where would they go to use a washroom?
14:13Men can use any tree.
14:15There are a few of them left.
14:17What about women?
14:18What we did was, we asked the movement police to say,
14:21give us 17 locations where the cops are posted.
14:25We got these vanity vans.
14:27We cleaned them up.
14:28We spoke to Parley.
14:29We got biscuits done.
14:30We spoke to Doctor and Gambit.
14:32We got sanitary pad kit done.
14:34We made 17 safe washrooms for women cops.
14:37Now, I'm not, no, no, please don't clap.
14:40This is not about clapping.
14:41This is about, a lot of people said, wow.
14:43It's not about wow.
14:44It's about elementary.
14:45Look around you.
14:46Look around you.
14:47There are stories of what you can do.
14:49Kuch nahi aata karne ko to ek kebab dhe dijiye.
14:52Kisi ke ke tab a jaegi.
14:53Library shuru ho jaegi.
14:55Kuch nahi aata kisi ko dhanewaad bol dijiye.
14:57Kuch nahi aata kisi ko pari gula dijiye.
14:59Kuch dijiye.
15:00Can I do my bit?
15:01I think it starts there.
15:03And our strength comes from a lot of people in Bombay
15:07who put up their hands.
15:08The moment we say we'd like to help out,
15:10are their hands to go up?
15:11Some of my, there's people sitting there who volunteered with me from day one.
15:16Okay.
15:17She's a chartered accountant but she gives her time.
15:19There are lots of them here.
15:20Professionals sitting.
15:21They say, I'm happy to help out.
15:23There is a kindness tone.
15:24It's just that we need to ask.
15:26Draw up the courage and ask to attend.
15:28Draw up the courage and do your written help.
15:37You were in the special chair.
15:40Now Civic Studios has been consistently backing stories that have some sort of social impact
15:45or are raising social concerns.
15:47But this is the first time you've shifted to climate.
15:50So is there, is this a conscious shift and what after this?
15:57It's definitely a very conscious decision.
15:59I think for this year, we at Civic Studios are very intentionally focusing on climate storytelling.
16:06But we've created a vartavari, a speaker's vart.
16:09Anybody who wants to say something, registers, gets five minutes, please give me time.
16:14Okay.
16:15So that's one.
16:16Second, for many of you who don't know what to do in the goodness space, start giving away
16:21your plastic waste.
16:23Okay.
16:24Saving it, donating it.
16:25Let me see.
16:26This is what Project Mumbai volunteers do.
16:28We collect plastic waste from your homes.
16:31We convert them so that this doesn't go into a landfill.
16:34Okay.
16:35We have an initiative called carpet.
16:3630% of the landfills is from the clothes that you buy and discard.
16:41This pencil box is made from, again, the plastic waste that you order.
16:45Okay.
16:46And then if you don't know where it's gone, just be a little bit more mindful.
16:50This is not my job.
16:51You know, you might say, people call us, which is fine.
16:55As long as, as she said, next generation, start being a little more mindful.
17:03That's all it takes.
17:05Thank you very much.
17:07Excuse me, can I say something?
17:12So yes, we are a model of public-private people partnership to get the government involved.
17:17But the power of people is what I believe.
17:20And you know, if you manage to get people, like the lady that I said, I can start, all
17:25of us getting together, suddenly if 50 people start saying, I will not, there will be somebody
17:31who will start taking heat.
17:33A lot of times, throughout COVID, the government reached out to us.
17:37We were a one-year-old organization.
17:39Why?
17:40Because citizens were the first.
17:42Okay.
17:43So there is a definite sense in strength.
17:46And there are some battles you can't fight.
17:48So let's not fight those battles.
17:49But there are some battles you can.
17:51Let's fight those.
17:52Those quick wins will give us energy.
17:54You know?
17:55And then the energy will give us energy to fight too much.
17:58But there is a way, and I always believe, somewhere you need to start.
18:01Many of us stay back not knowing where to start.
18:05Start a conversation, it will start from where?
18:10Right.
18:11If I can just corroborate what he's saying.
18:12So during the pandemic, we sort of collaborated and spoke about doing things and even I was
18:17active in the field.
18:18But our starting point was rage.
18:20Like the government is not doing enough.
18:22His starting point is always love.
18:24He's always inclusive.
18:26And that itself is a power that will only keep growing.
18:29It doesn't diminish.
18:30Rage diminishes.
18:31So I've seen that first time.
18:34I just want to add one more thing.
18:38I think there is a lot of power in people coming together and doing this.
18:42But there is another way of like most of my work actually goes the other way around.
18:48So I would work very closely with institutions or people in power.
18:55Because a small change in policy here and there can affect a lot of people in one go.
19:00So I like there is a lot of power in what you're trying to do.
19:04But there is, but it's not to be said that there is no point in engaging with power.
19:09Right.
19:10And, and, and, but that's where those things obviously take time and you need to be and
19:15you need to be, and sometimes we don't even see the full story in many ways.
19:20But that one has to happen.
19:22And I'm like, yes, you have a lot of things that you can do in your personal lives.
19:27But you also have a vote in your hand, which is ultimately the most powerful thing that
19:32you have.
19:33Right.
19:34And that, that, that I think is your biggest finger pointing in many ways.
19:38Yeah.
19:39So, you know, I'm, I'm sorry.
19:40You told us no point in a few hands which did go up.
19:41So let's, because I think I have to keep the voice to be heard.
19:42One voice here.
19:43One voice needs to be done.
19:44And I feel that a lot of conversation end with, you know, plastic bottle and throwing garbage
20:01on the street.
20:02That's really not even the tip of the iceberg.
20:03Right.
20:04That doesn't even count.
20:05It's far deeper, far more systemic.
20:07And I feel that, you know, content like this, when it just goes to, oh, they and us rich
20:10versus poor and stops at Kabul.
20:13I think we lose a lot of opportunity to really drive the nuance of what's actually going on,
20:18why it's happening and what we can do.
20:20It's a much longer conversation, but I wish that, you know, I wish that more nuance is brought
20:25into the story so people really understand what is happening.
20:28And we don't end with a very simple say rich versus poor, west versus east, you know, north
20:33versus south kind of dualities, which doesn't help us to explain anything and doesn't help
20:37us to solve anything.
20:38So I'm completely with you.
20:39I'm just taking 10 seconds to respond.
20:41Every conversation is important.
20:43You know, today when 70, 100 people are sitting here, some of them were never exposed to even
20:48a subject like climate.
20:49Today they've been introduced.
20:51I am, I respect your point because climate is massive.
20:55This is the tip, but it also has a power.
20:59You know, so this is the tip right now, which we've introduced them to.
21:02As they start getting involved, they'll become part of the larger conversation.
21:06And then maybe, so there is a power in confrontation, but there's also power in collaboration.
21:12Yes, ma'am.
21:13The last question.
21:14Yeah.
21:15Yeah.
21:16Okay.
21:17So hi, I am.
21:19Patronizing the audience.
21:21I think that's the, that's the most important thing to avoid.
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