00:00Hola, bienvenidos a M2. Hoy está
00:10re bueno, Ivette. ¿Cómo estás?
00:12Hoy está intenso, Susana.
00:14Vámonos. Intenso. Vámonos a la
00:16intensidad de ya se estrenó en
00:18México y en el mundo entero
00:19Send Help o Ayuda, protagonizado
00:22por Rachel McAdams y por Dylan
00:24O'Brien. Ya la viste, ¿Qué te
00:26pareció? Me encanta, me encanta.
00:27Creo que tiene una premisa que
00:29puede hacer catarsis con muchos
00:32que trabajamos, ¿No? Y que de
00:35pronto sentimos por ahí agobio o
00:38demás. Digo, me incluyo, pero
00:40hablo en general. Sí, sí, sí,
00:41espero que, digo, no, no estés
00:42viviendo, no quieras hacerle lo que
00:44Rachel McAdams le hace a Dylan en
00:46la... En lo absoluto, pero es que
00:48eso es solo el arranque. Así es,
00:51¿Verdad? ¿Verdad que eso está
00:52para mí? Y sin dar spoilers, la
00:53película va tomando un tono
00:55bastante oscuro en esa relación y
00:57en ese juego de poderes, que solo es
01:00lo que está por encimita. Yo te
01:02soy sincera, cuando vi el trailer
01:03dije, ya, me contaron la película
01:04entera. Y no. No, no. Y bueno,
01:08básicamente, un jefe bastante y una
01:11chica bastante torpe, se encuentran en
01:15una mala situación porque, pues,
01:16acaban en una isla desierta y ¿Quién
01:18tiene el poder ahora? Bueno,
01:20platicamos con los protagonistas de
01:21esta película.
01:23Así estaba yo.
01:26Pero te aseguro que soy mucho más
01:30amable de lo que tú fuiste.
01:32Eso fue algo que todos comentábamos,
01:33la forma en que proyectaste tantas
01:34cosas, solo con tu cara, con tu...
01:37Oh, gracias.
01:38Entonces, estaba hablando con Sam
01:39sobre eso y creo que eso fue una
01:41buena cosa que ustedes hicieron.
01:43Lo aprecio mucho.
01:45Sí, es cierto.
01:45Él me hacía porque me hacía
01:47chica por tomar suyo.
01:48Yo estaba como, ¿Has tomado todo el
01:49¿Hm?
01:50¿Hm?
01:51Y él decía, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:54Pero no, gracias, eso fue mucho,
01:56mucho divertido.
01:56Yo, quiero decir, es,
01:58no sé.
01:59Es demasiado divertido de mirar el
02:01filme y de mirar en cada
02:04secuencia, como, ¡Oh!
02:04Sabré que este otro se va a
02:07ahora, este otro se va a
02:07ahora, y...
02:08Sí, sí.
02:09Están todos muy divertidos para
02:10tocar, creo.
02:11Estamos hablando de poder, en este
02:13filme, quién tiene el
02:14y lo que se han convertido cuando tienen el poder.
02:19¿Tienes reflexiones sobre eso después de hacer el film y luego de ver que se ha terminado?
02:25Sí, me encanta.
02:27Me encanta la idea de que Linda sort de stare into el abismo demasiado largo
02:34y se became la cosa que estaba tratando de no ser.
02:38Se empezó con el poder de la dinamica de que, oh, por Linda,
02:44ella merece mejor, y luego ella se tiene mejor y tú eres feliz por ella.
02:49Y es que la humanidad de la humanidad de no saber cuando se stop con el poder.
02:58No saber cuando es suficiente.
02:59Interesting.
03:00I have so much forgiveness for her.
03:03Like, truly, because I don't know, I just find it's so, uh, it's so interesting to watch that pull, right?
03:12Like, that emotional, because you know what this person's life has been,
03:16you learn more about what this person's life has been,
03:19and, like, once you see the new lease on life that she's been given
03:22and how all of her decisions kind of come from that base, you know,
03:26not wanting to go back, not wanting to go back to that, you know,
03:29it does, it's, it pulls you in different directions, you know, so it's, God, I'm so torn.
03:35Esos son los protagonistas y era difícil a veces llamar su atención de lo que se adoran
03:39y de que se ponían a platicar entre ellos.
03:41Oye, pero, pero torpe en la oficina, en la oficina, porque a la hora de la acción,
03:46la verdad es que ahí es donde demuestra habilidades impresionantes.
03:50Y sabes que entre las entrevistas nos daban clases de supervivencia,
03:54estuvo muy divertido, la verdad, el evento fue Los Ángeles, gracias, Disney,
03:57porque, muy bien, muy bien.
04:00Y de hecho hablamos también con el director Sam Raimi
04:02que regresa a hacer películas para adultos, clasificación R,
04:06así, Drag Me to Hell y todas esas cosas que conocemos perfectamente.
04:09Lo recordamos perfectamente.
04:09Pero luego que se nos fue al mundo de Spider-Man, no,
04:12está ahí él con la productora de esta película, estos nos dijeron.
04:16I want to know how something like this comes to happen
04:19because from the production standpoint, I mean, we have so many franchises,
04:24we have so many sequels, this is an original.
04:27Yes.
04:27How does that happen these days?
04:29That's to be celebrated.
04:30It is very, very hard to make an original film.
04:34It's perseverance, luck, a lot of hard work.
04:40What do you think?
04:41Yes, I think it's that because the studios want to bet on the sure thing.
04:44It's much easier to invest in a sequel for them because it has a known audience that they can build upon,
04:51a guaranteed income of some form against the risk that they take in their investment.
04:57And if the film fails, the executives can always turn to the chairman and say,
05:02well, the first one was successful.
05:04Right.
05:05It's a safe thing to do.
05:07And audiences also can be timid and really mostly go to sequels and remakes and things they feel familiar with.
05:16So it takes some courage on behalf of the audience to go out and see something that is original.
05:22They have no expectation.
05:23They're going to have to do the work themselves.
05:25Who are these characters?
05:27And they're going to have to do some learning in the theater.
05:30Maybe that has something to do with it.
05:32Well, it is.
05:33It is totally new.
05:34But it's also not just one single genre, I would think.
05:38Because when we see, obviously it's psychological terror and so many things,
05:43but it was so funny as well.
05:45Oh, thank you.
05:46Thank you.
05:47How do you mix it?
05:48How do you get to do that?
05:50Because that's not always easy to mix the both.
05:52What do you think?
05:55I think there's a number of factors.
05:58I mean, Sam is so collaborative with his actors.
05:59So the actors brought so much of their own comedy, especially Dylan O'Brien.
06:05His comedic timing is funny.
06:06And Rachel had so much input into her character.
06:10So we had a great time shooting as many options as possible.
06:15And then you have Sam and Sam's editor Bob Murawski in the edit, you know, fine-tuning it.
06:21And then with test screenings, we got to work on what jokes were working or what needed more jokes.
06:27So it was a process.
06:28Well, thank you very much.
06:30Yvette, that same day we also had the opportunity to talk with Andrew Guest,
06:34who is the showrunner of the most recent series of Marvel.
06:37Exactly.
06:38Wonder Man, that I really loved it.
06:40It's completely different.
06:41Because it's a satire of Hollywood, of course, and that's what makes it attractive.
06:46And that's what makes it attractive, related to everything that has been offered Marvel,
06:51that's what makes it so attractive and good as it was a long time ago.
06:55A mí me parece que hicieron algo fantástico con esto, para los que no somos necesariamente fans base de Marvel,
07:01pero también funciona para los que sí, porque hay canon ahí.
07:03Esto nos dijo Andrew Guest.
07:05Adelante.
07:05El señor Kovac los verá en la sala.
07:10¿Están aquí para conocer a Von Kovac?
07:12Uh-huh.
07:13Hola a todos.
07:15Quiero que juntos exploremos el espacio entre la ficción y la no ficción.
07:21Qué gran idea.
07:22I think you're going really deep, even though it doesn't feel that way,
07:26because you're enjoying it so much along the way.
07:29But people, we all have things we want in Out of Life, and we cannot get it.
07:35People think having, being a superhero is a way to get it.
07:37I don't think it really is, is it?
07:39Not for Simon Williams, it's not.
07:41And I do, I know that, you know, there's concern always when you tell us a Hollywood story
07:46that it might feel too inside baseball, that we over here in Hollywood,
07:49we understand these references, and the general public's not going to get it.
07:53But I think there's anybody, as you're saying, can relate to the feeling of really wanting something
07:57and feeling like you would do anything you could to make it happen.
08:01So I think we can all relate to that feeling of being a dreamer that Simon has in the beginning of the series
08:06and hopefully root for him and want him to succeed.
08:09Let's go into that a little bit, what you said, that people sometimes say that other people
08:14that are not in the industry are not going to get it.
08:16I mean, you did 30 Rock, which was amazing.
08:19I think we've seen, some of my favorite shows are about the industry.
08:23And even though I work in it, I think everybody can relate because we all get to see the result.
08:27Why is there that stereotype against that?
08:29I think it's this concern from people who are here working and feel like they're in a bubble.
08:35But I feel like time and again, we prove that if you look at it as details
08:41and specificity that you're providing an audience, they don't need to necessarily understand every word
08:47that came out of somebody's mouth.
08:48It'll just feel real and lived in.
08:50You look at a show like The Bear, and I feel like for many people, having tried to do restaurant shows
08:55myself over the years, everyone thought you had to make the show about something else other than the restaurant.
09:00And the thing I found so incredible about that series that worked so well is
09:03they made it about the restaurant.
09:05The stakes were, were we going to have a good dinner tonight?
09:07And that was enough.
09:08And the storytelling was compelling enough that maybe you didn't understand every bit of lingo
09:13that was thrown around between these chefs.
09:15Yeah.
09:15But you understood the stakes and why people cared.
09:19And I kind of feel like we sort of tried the same philosophy when it came to this show,
09:23that maybe you don't understand, you know, what the breakdown for a character is.
09:27But does that matter if you know that, you know, X Mayo is yelling at Simon Williams about trying
09:32to stay focused?
09:33I don't think so.
09:34And when you have somebody, well, like Ben Kingsley, for example, who's the master in the art there,
09:39and obviously your lead and everybody else doing this so naturally, I think it's a way to bring people in as well, right?
09:47I hope so.
09:48I mean, when you're given an actor like Sir Ben Kingsley to work with, it's an incredible challenge in some respects
09:56because you feel like, am I up to this?
09:58Can I deliver something for Sir Ben, who's worked with some of the best people who's ever, you know,
10:04made films or TV shows, and he was so open to talking about both Trevor Slattery's character,
10:12which he's worked with for the last 13 years.
10:14He knows everything there is to know about his backstory and his relationship to acting.
10:18And he was open about his own feelings about acting.
10:21It's an amazing adaptation.
10:22When you speak of things like that, I get it even more.
10:25The original comic, I think, was, he was more of an antagonist at first.
10:31Correct.
10:31And then he came in and now he's something completely different, but at the same time, what makes it hold the spirit, the original spirit?
10:38Well, I think for, in many ways, there was, there was many different, different iterations of this character.
10:44And I think one of the most famous versions was kind of like a Tom Cruise style.
10:48I do my own stunts, but I'm also a superhero and I'm outwardly a superhero and I'm a celebrity.
10:53And I think at the time, it was an opportunity for the comic book to sort of take a poke at Hollywood and look at this industry.
11:01And I think that DNA is still what this show is about.
11:05And Simon Williams had some iconic looks that were definitely inspiration for us.
11:09And we've tried to live up to in our series as well.
11:12There's also a lot of family drama, which I truly enjoy because when you think of Marvel, I mean, we've seen a lot of different things with Marvel.
11:20But how do you make it that we have that part, we have, it's very funny, but it's also very dry and very sad.
11:27So when we have all these things together, how do you keep the Marvel spirit of it all?
11:31I mean, I think one of the first principles of Marvel storytelling to me is focusing on character.
11:39When you look at Iron Man and you look at the casting of Robert Downey Jr. in that first movie, that was a big swing.
11:44That was a risk.
11:45And what he did with that character was iconic and launched an incredible journey that we've all been on.
11:51And I always think that one of the things you need to focus on is character and unexpected characters.
11:58And I feel like Yaya and Simon Williams is something that will feel fresh, hopefully, different than people are expecting.
12:06And part of it is learning about his family and spending time with them.
12:09And even though it may seem like we're just at a family barbecue in Pacoima for a full episode, that there's other stuff going on.
12:16There's some spy craft and they're ultimately we're learning more and more about Simon and the frustrations and difficulties deals with.
12:26And the difficulties of being a first generation American who, you know, has certain expectations from the family members around him.
12:33Wow, pues hoy sí tuvimos mucho, mucho.
12:35Me encanta. Gracias, Ivette.
12:37Gracias. Como siempre, un placer.
12:38Igualmente, gracias, Caro. Gracias, equipo. Esto es M2.
12:42Nos vemos por aquí en un ratito más.
12:43Gracias, Álvaro.
12:56Gracias, Álvaro.
12:58Gracias.
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