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Europe Today: intervista esclusiva a Charles Michel, ex presidente del Consiglio europeo
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00:15Good morning, it's Friday the 30th of January. I'm Maret Gwynn.
00:20And this is Europe Today, your daily fix of European news and analysis.
00:25Live here on Euronews.
00:27Coming up on today's show.
00:30Russia and Ukraine set to resume peace talks in Abu Dhabi over the weekend.
00:35The EU's foreign policy chief says Moscow is not taking negotiations serious.
00:40After yesterday's meeting of EU foreign ministers, Kaya Callas also...
00:45...accused the Kremlin of weaponizing winter by pounding Ukraine's...
00:50...and said the EU could consider an entry ban on Russian soldiers...
00:55...who fought in Ukraine.
00:57Joining me now on set to debrief...
01:00...is our EU editor, Maria Tadeo.
01:03Morning, Maria. Great to have you.
01:03Good morning. Great to see you.
01:05Tell us, bring us up to speed now on the latest because it looks like Ukraine is facing a really, really tough...
01:10Well, it is probably the most difficult winter for Ukraine since the war started, of course.
01:15There's been now a weather alert that suggests that temperatures will drop significantly in which...
01:20...we talk about minus 20 degrees potentially going all the way to minus 30 degrees.
01:25...is the situation even more difficult because the war after four years, the energy infrastructure...
01:30...has been severely damaged.
01:32And, of course, we've talked and reported many times...
01:35...on this network about the very difficult, not just war frontline situation, but really...
01:40...when it comes to the blackouts that can go on for hours, the impact on the electricity...
01:45...and the heat in, minus 20 degrees and no heat in.
01:48Obviously, it's a very difficult situation.
01:50...for the people of Ukraine.
01:51On that note, yesterday, Kaya Kalos said that she believes...
01:55...the Russians are not serious about the negotiations.
01:57We know there's a number of documents that have been put on the table.
02:00...conversations and talks that are going on between the U.S., Russia, the European Union and Ukraine.
02:05We talk about this idea of the prosperity plan, the reconstruction of Ukraine all the way to 2040, but obviously all of...
02:10...this is underpinned by the final peace settlement, and that still looks very, very far...
02:15This brings up, however, a very uncomfortable question for Kaya Kalos, which is...
02:20...why are the Europeans not directly involved?
02:22Is there a way that Europe can have a bigger say?
02:25We are now seeing tensions within the 27, some of which suggest Kaya Kalos cannot do...
02:30...we need to bring up someone, someone else, to talk to the Russians.
02:33Let's take a look at those different...
02:35...opinions.
02:36We need to talk with them if we want a solution.
02:38If we...
02:40...can't talk to them, we won't find a solution.
02:41And if I was too small to do it, if then the President Macron...
02:45...or someone else is able to represent Europe because they don't want to talk to Kaya Kalos...
02:50We can't be the demanders here that...
02:55...you know, we go to Russia, talk to us.
02:57The concessions that the Americans are putting...
03:00...and Ukraine are quite strong.
03:03So I don't think there is anything...
03:05...that we can offer to Russia on top of that.
03:10...divided opinions there.
03:11Maria, there was also consensus yesterday on listing Iran...
03:15...in Iran's revolutionary guard as a terrorist organization.
03:18Yeah, of course, our European officials briefed...
03:20...that this is really the killing machine of the regime...
03:22...and this is in response to this very violent crackdown.
03:25...that took place at the start of the month on the streets of Iran...
03:28...when the protests are really...
03:30...at Tukov.
03:31Ultimately, the French, the Spanish and the Italians agreed to designate...
03:35...a terrorist group.
03:36There had been concerns that this is why this decision took about...
03:40...two weeks to get finally sealed and approved by the French...
03:43...and certainly also the Spanish.
03:45...that A, there is a hostage situation in Iran...
03:48...so there was a concern about the well-being of nationals.
03:50...and European citizens who are still in the country...
03:52...but also there was a concern that this could really...
03:55...completely now cut off all diplomatic channels.
03:57It was interesting yesterday to hear from Kayakala saying that...
04:00...that this, this new designation as a terrorist group...
04:02...had been, quote, a calculated risk but also pointed...
04:05...to the idea that the channels with the foreign ministry still remain.
04:08Maria, thank you for that. We'll be keeping an eye on...
04:10...and that story, of course, throughout the day.
04:12But coming up next, I'll be joined by former European Council...
04:15...or President Charles Michel.
04:17He served for five years in the top Brussels...
04:20...and steered EU leaders' response to Russia's invasion of EU...
04:25...of Ukraine in 2022.
04:27He has also served as the Prime Minister...
04:30...of Belgium before becoming the European Council President...
04:34...and I'm very, very...
04:35...happy to say that he joins us now in our studio in Brussels.
04:39So...
04:40Welcome back to Euronews. Great to have you.
04:42Thank you. Good morning.
04:43Listen, we heard from Kayakala...
04:45...there, resisting this pressure coming from Maloney, Macron...
04:49...for the EU.
04:50...to engage directly in talks with Russia.
04:52Do you think it's the right moment?
04:54I think it's...
04:55...and Macron and Maloney, they are right...
04:57...to say we need to be around the table because...
05:00...today, that's very sad.
05:01That's even a bit shocking.
05:03Who is defending the European...
05:05...interests around the table, not the United States, not Russia.
05:09And I think that...
05:10...with Ukraine and the EU, we have the same doors.
05:13We want more stability.
05:15We want peace.
05:16We want security.
05:17And I think it would be legitimate if there is...
05:20...a way to make sure that our European interests are better defended.
05:25But who can go to those talks?
05:27Who can stand up to Putin?
05:28Is it Kayakala's?
05:29Because many leaders say...
05:30...she can't do it.
05:31Yeah, I think that the European Council has a special role to play.
05:35Because that's a very legitimate body with 27 head of state, head of government.
05:40And that's, I think, a debate for the European Council.
05:43And I'm confident that sooner or later...
05:45...the European Council can give a mandate to someone.
05:48It can be to the point of the European Council.
05:50Antonio Costa, for instance, to be the one who has the legitimacy to talk.
05:55On behalf of the 27 member states.
05:57Yet calls in this town this week from some...
06:00...on the EU to consider merging the roles of the Council Chief and the Commission...
06:05Is that something you'd support?
06:06Do we need a President of Europe?
06:07Look, this is a traditional...
06:10...debate.
06:11...and the day there will be a direct election.
06:15...of the European representatives, of the European institutions, then that's a legitimate...
06:20...debate, debate and question.
06:22But you know, my impression is the following.
06:25The...
06:25European Union is based on a double
06:27legitimacy. The member states on the one
06:29hand and on the other.
06:30The European Parliament and the Commission
06:32with a certain role to
06:33defend the...
06:35European interest.
06:36And I feel, whatever we do in terms
06:38of institution, we will...
06:40always to take into account
06:41this double reality.
06:43You had harsh words for the...
06:45NATO Chief Mark Rutte earlier this week.
06:47Do you think he's smooth-talking
06:48Trump too much?
06:50You say that Europe is able to
06:51defend itself.
06:52I want to be clear.
06:53Mark Rutte is disappointed.
06:55And I'm losing confidence.
06:57Why?
06:57Because I'm not expecting Mark Rutte to...
07:00to be an American agent and expecting
07:02Mark Rutte to work for the unity
07:04within NATO.
07:05Today, we can see that Article 5 is put
07:07in danger.
07:09Why?
07:09Because...
07:10Because of this very hostile rhetoric
07:12developed within the United States,
07:14developed by the...
07:15White House, point one.
07:16We face intimidations.
07:18We face threats.
07:19What is doing...
07:20on with Greenland is not acceptable.
07:23And I expect Mark Rutte to...
07:25to be a strong voice to defend
07:26the unity within NATO.
07:28But how, if you are in his shoes...
07:30What should Europe do?
07:31How can it stand up to Trump?
07:32It's very clear that
07:33appeasement will not work.
07:35flattering diplomacy will lead to a failure,
07:38to a total failure.
07:39The more...
07:40you use this flattering diplomacy,
07:42the more we are observing the United States...
07:45are going very far
07:46in this tactic of intimidation
07:48and threats against...
07:50the allies.
07:51And the EU is a very loyal partner
07:53and ally for the United States.
07:55that's why we do not deserve this behaviour.
07:58We can see, for instance...
08:00ambiguities coming from the United States
08:02with Russia,
08:02the way Donald Trump decided to...
08:05beef legitimacy to Vladimir Putin,
08:06we can see some sanctions against...
08:10as a former EU commissioner.
08:11That's not acceptable.
08:12Finally, on Ukraine,
08:13very briefly, if you can,
08:14President...
08:15Zelensky says the country
08:15should join the EU by 2027.
08:18Is that feasible?
08:18He's absolutely right.
08:20and that's possible.
08:21There's a question of political will.
08:23The Ukrainians are making a lot of...
08:25of progress in terms of criteria
08:27that have to be fulfilled
08:28to join...
08:30the EU
08:30and everything must be done
08:32to help them,
08:32to support them.
08:33And I think...
08:35that Ukraine,
08:36being a member of the EU,
08:38it should take place...
08:40Okay.
08:40as fast as possible.
08:41Shachmisha,
08:42that's all we have time for.
08:43Thank you so much
08:43for coming to join us.
08:44Thank you.
08:45on set this morning.
08:46See you again soon,
08:47we hope.
08:48Now we're moving on
08:48to another hot button.
08:50geopolitical issue now.
08:51It's been nearly one month
08:52since the US
08:53ordered the capture
08:54of Venezuela's...
08:55Nicolás Maduro.
08:56Secretary of State
08:57Marco Rubio
08:58said earlier this week
08:58that the US...
09:00is committed
09:00to democratic transition
09:01in the country.
09:03I'm pleased to say
09:03that joining us live
09:04from a...
09:05is Leopoldo López,
09:06a figurehead
09:07of Venezuela's
09:08opposition forces.
09:09So...
09:10welcome.
09:10It's great to have you
09:11with us.
09:12Let us start
09:13with the recent US...
09:15intervention in Venezuela.
09:17You've fought for years
09:18for democracy and freedom.
09:20in the country.
09:20Is the US
09:21helping your cause here?
09:24Oh, thank you very much.
09:25I can tell you
09:26that we are much better off
09:27than what we were
09:28on January 1st.
09:30the second Venezuelans.
09:32We have done
09:32for decades
09:33everything
09:33to have the...
09:35democracy in our country.
09:36We have taken the streets
09:37not once
09:37but thousands of times.
09:39We have gone to...
09:40elections
09:40and these elections
09:41have been stolen.
09:42We have engaged
09:43in 16 rounds.
09:45of negotiations
09:45with all sorts
09:47of mediators
09:48from the Vatican
09:49to ex-presidents.
09:50to Norway
09:50and it all led
09:52to the same position
09:53where Maduro...
09:55only use those negotiations
09:57to buy time
09:57and to manipulate.
09:59So we are...
10:00much better off
10:01with the removal
10:01of Nicolas Maduro.
10:03We are not
10:03where we want to be.
10:05We want to be
10:05in a fully
10:06and total
10:07democratic Venezuela
10:09and we understand...
10:10that this is a transition
10:10and that's what
10:11we need to push for.
10:12Because the figureheads
10:13of the Maduro regime...
10:15we're talking about
10:16Delsi Rodríguez,
10:17Teostado Cabello
10:18are still in power.
10:20in Caracas.
10:21Is the US
10:21really interested
10:22in free and fair elections
10:24or...
10:25do you think
10:25they will settle
10:26for a soft democracy
10:27if it serves
10:28their commercial interests?
10:30Well, I can tell you
10:31that the Venezuelan people
10:32are set to be
10:33in a democratic Venezuela.
10:35we've been fighting
10:35for this
10:36for, as I said,
10:37over two decades
10:38and we will continue
10:39to do so.
10:40that's the aspiration
10:41of the Venezuelan people,
10:43the Venezuelan
10:43democratic leadership.
10:45and the US
10:45has committed
10:46to democracy
10:47and not
10:48in the very,
10:49very short term.
10:50there is a transition
10:51that has started
10:52mostly on the economic realm.
10:55but we need to push
10:56for democracy.
10:57That's our responsibility
10:58and that's what...
11:00what we will do.
11:01We expect a process
11:03that will lead us to...
11:05a general election
11:06that will give
11:07the Venezuelan people
11:08the voice.
11:10to who will govern
11:12the country.
11:13That's what we hope for.
11:14That's what...
11:15we'll fight for.
11:16And are you hoping
11:16for, for example,
11:17the return of
11:18Maria Corina Machado
11:19or...
11:20would you be able
11:21to contemplate
11:22returning to
11:23Venezuelan politics
11:24if the...
11:25of the US
11:25does guarantee
11:26this transition?
11:27No, absolutely.
11:28Absolutely.
11:29There are...
11:30thousands,
11:31I would say
11:31hundreds of thousands
11:32of Venezuelans
11:33that will be
11:34willing to...
11:35return at the political level.
11:37Yes, we hope to return
11:39as soon as possible.
11:40to Venezuela
11:41and to contribute
11:42to the rebuilding
11:42of our country.
11:43Leopoldo Lopeta
11:44is always...
11:45we have time for,
11:45I'm afraid,
11:45but thank you so much.
11:46It was a pleasure
11:47to have you with us
11:48this morning.
11:49Next up,
11:49we move...
11:50moving to space.
11:51Isn't he getting ahead
11:52in the space race?
11:54Our...
11:55reporter Jakob Janis
11:56takes a look.
12:00folks,
12:00let's clear the air.
12:01When you hear
12:02EU space industry,
12:04you think...
12:05of bureaucracy,
12:06not rockets.
12:07And honestly,
12:08I can't blame you.
12:09This...
12:10This week,
12:10your reporter
12:11took part
12:12in the European Space Conference
12:13to verify it.
12:15So is the EU
12:16that far behind
12:17in the space race?
12:19Let's take a look.
12:20Meet Copernicus,
12:23Europe's eyes
12:24in disguise.
12:25It is the invisible
12:26infrastructure
12:27that powers
12:28your weather up
12:29and...
12:30hot the storms
12:30before they even hit
12:32and meet Galileo,
12:34the EU's...
12:35navigator.
12:35It connects
12:36your bank
12:37and your phone.
12:38And it's the only thing
12:39and...
12:40ensuring that
12:40when a geopolitical
12:41crisis explodes,
12:43the EU
12:43is not relying
12:45on Washington
12:45to tell Europeans
12:47where they are
12:48and meet
12:49the new kids
12:50because space
12:52is now a dogfight.
12:54The EU
12:55finally has
12:55an encrypted shield
12:57for European leaders
12:58and the military
12:59to protect...
13:00secrets
13:00from cyberattacks.
13:02But here
13:03is what
13:03Eurospace
13:04is now...
13:05it isn't
13:06Starlink
13:07or SpaceX
13:08while Elon Musk
13:09dom...
13:10illuminates the sky
13:10with thousands
13:11of satellites.
13:13Europe
13:13is still
13:14playing
13:14catching...
13:15and the EU's
13:16alternative
13:17iris squared
13:18won't be flying
13:19until...
13:20until 2029.
13:22So can the EU
13:23compete
13:24with the US
13:25in China?
13:26The talent
13:26is here
13:27but the speed
13:28not quite.
13:30Europeans
13:30are missing
13:31Silicon Valley's
13:33private capital
13:34and European...
13:35pension funds
13:35are too scared
13:36to bet
13:37on exploding rockets
13:38and while China...
13:40and the US
13:41are shooting
13:41for the moon
13:42this year...
13:43Brussels
13:43is still
13:44filling...
13:45out their paperwork
13:46and hard work
13:47is ahead
13:48in this era
13:49of hard work
13:50and power
13:50can the EU
13:51be seen
13:51from space?
13:53Because for now
13:54all I can...
13:55is the Great Wall
13:56of China
13:56and obviously
13:57Trump's ego.
14:00is the Great Wall
14:01and the EU
14:02is the Great Wall
14:02and the EU
14:03is the Great Wall
14:04and the EU
14:05pianos there. And that brings this edition
14:06of Europe Today to an end. Thank you
14:08for your company throughout the week.
14:10We'll be back with more news and analysis
14:12on Monday morning. Have a great weekend.
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