00:00Générique
13:29Nous avons les États-Unis et la Chine qui nous pressent en deux parties.
13:33Ça a été très difficile.
13:34Nous avons travaillé avec les États-Unis et nous avons besoin de plus de trade agreements.
13:39En Indien, c'est très bien que vous êtes pro l'indien, et nous avons plusieurs autres.
13:43La Chine.
13:44Je pense que vous avez voté pour ça aussi.
13:46Pourquoi vous choisissez-vous...
13:49Vous dites que c'est trop petit ?
13:54Mais c'est toujours un growth.
13:55C'est toujours plus de travail pour les Européens.
13:59Parce que c'est important de vos autres entreprises, mais c'est important pour vos besoins.
14:00Il soutient de petites et medium-sizedes entreprises.
14:01Nous avons besoin de croissance de l'Europe pour les jeunes.
14:04Donc, pourquoi ne peux-tu pas vous aider à offrir cette croissance?
14:09La geopolitique situation a été une des grandes issues de l'Université de Parlement.
14:14Every week there's a different agenda
14:16And usually driven by the United States or otherwise
14:18But the point is
14:19You're right, we need to do more trade
14:21But for me as an MAP, I have to balance
14:23On one side, the better
14:24Good of the EU
14:26And on the other side
14:27The better good of the economy of the EU
14:29And when the people
14:29Of France
14:30And the people of Poland
14:31The people of Austria
14:32Ireland
14:32And even Belgium
14:33On this
14:34Have come in and said
14:34At the end of the day
14:35We're more to lose
14:37In a deal
14:37Of this size
14:39Because it's so
14:39Small
14:40That's what they're saying to me
14:41Even though I don't know
14:41If the French economy
14:42Should be a good example
14:43Well
14:44The less the
14:44The French are united on this
14:45We've seen it in the Parliament
14:47I mean 127 MAPs can be wrong
14:49Can they all be
14:49Are they all be wrong
14:50They can all be wrong
14:52I'm afraid that's a bit of a
14:53Statement about you
14:54And democracy
14:54Because at the end of the day
14:55They represent left
14:56Right and middle
14:57Ciarán Mullooly
14:58You've a chance for
14:59Another question there
14:59Are you in favour
15:00Of a deal
15:01Which at the end of the day
15:02Continues to leave workers
15:04In Brazil
15:04On an average monthly salary
15:06Of just €1,000
15:08It's doing nothing for
15:09Trailer
15:09How could you support that
15:11Nothing for employees
15:12And workers in Brazil
15:13You're right on sir
15:13So
15:14If we vote down the
15:17Mercosur trade agreement
15:18How will it
15:19Help the workers
15:21In Brazil
15:22How will it help
15:23The workers
15:24In Europe
15:26In Ireland
15:27It will be the opposite
15:28And we spoke about
15:29It's about growth
15:31Europe is facing
15:33A huge growth problem
15:34And it's good
15:35That the commission
15:36Is now pushing
15:37To change this position
15:39We have the Draga report
15:41We need to do
15:41A lot of things
15:42The rest of the world
15:43Is growing fast
15:44Better than Europe
15:45And that's why
15:47We need to tap
15:48Into that growth
15:49And we
15:49To do that
15:50With the trade agreements
15:52But you decide
15:53That you do not want
15:54To tap into that
15:54Growth
15:55To 270 million
15:57Consumers
15:58Now I look at the facts
15:59That can sell
15:59The
15:59The
16:01Pharmaceuticals
16:02I also look at the facts
16:03The trade unions
16:04Tell us
16:04That
16:04And actually
16:05I misquoted
16:05500 euros per month
16:07Is the average one
16:08At the top 10%
16:09Are
16:09On 1200 euros per month
16:11That's today
16:11That's today
16:12That has been the way
16:13For some time
16:13And you know that
16:14So
16:14With an agreement
16:16Another point
16:17That complicates this matter
16:17As well
16:18Just to complicate it
16:18Even further for you
16:19You want to sell
16:20People want to sell cars
16:22Into this community
16:23How many of these workers
16:24Are going to be able to
16:24Afford a Volvo car
16:26At that wage
16:27At that salary
16:28Never
16:29Allow Mr. Wormans
16:29To answer
16:30No
16:30Much more
16:32Of the workers
16:33Will afford it
16:34If
16:34We have the
16:35Mercosur agreement
16:36Not a chance
16:36Because economic development
16:38Will increase
16:39With the agreement
16:40That's what trade does
16:41Actually
16:42The European export
16:43Will grow by
16:4430%
16:4439%
16:46That's a huge possibility
16:48For
16:49Cars
16:50For car parts
16:51For car parts
16:51For machinerie
16:53For
16:53Pharmaceutical
16:54Products
16:55And for
16:55Farmers
16:56And that's why
16:56The industry
16:57Have called it
16:58The big trophy
16:58That they took
16:59Home from Paraguay
17:00And you mentioned
17:00Mario Draghi
17:01He has been invited
17:03To the EU leaders
17:03Retreat
17:04In February
17:04And that just describes
17:05How bad really
17:06Our economy is
17:07Right now
17:08What Kieran is doing
17:09Is
17:09Saying no
17:10To growth
17:10And I'm saying
17:11Yes to growth
17:12I'm saying balance
17:13I'm saying balance
17:14Well I'm curious
17:14To hear what our
17:15Viewers think
17:16Do write to us
17:16At the ring
17:17At yournews.com
17:18To tell us our view
17:18But now
17:19I would like to bring
17:20In another voice
17:21Because regulars
17:22Here on
17:22Euronews
17:23Will have noticed
17:23That
17:24Ursula von der Leyen
17:25Was in
17:25New Delhi
17:26Earlier this week
17:27And the red carpet
17:27Was rolled out
17:29For her
17:29We can take a listen
17:30To what she had to say
17:31During the EU India
17:32Historic Summit
17:34We did it
17:38We
17:39We delivered
17:40The mother
17:40Of all deals
17:42And this is
17:43The tale
17:43Of two giants
17:44The world's
17:46Second and fourth
17:47Largest economies
17:49Two giants
17:50Who choose partnership
17:51In a true
17:53Win-win
17:54A strong message
17:56That cooperation
17:57Is the best answer
17:58To global
17:59And global challenges
18:00Ursula von der Leyen
18:01There also charming
18:02The Indian community
18:04Is there
18:04With her
18:05Traditional dress
18:06This is not so
18:07Controversial
18:08As the Mercosur
18:09Why do you
18:09Really like
18:10The EU India deal
18:11It's a
18:13It's a huge deal
18:14It's a
18:16It's a
18:16Fantastic market
18:17For European
18:18Products
18:19It's 1.4 billion
18:21Consumers there
18:22And in a time
18:24Where once again
18:25When we are pressed
18:26By US and China
18:27We need more partners
18:29And that's why
18:30This agreement
18:31Is so good
18:31We've seen
18:32Chicken, beef
18:32Sugar
18:33Are protected here
18:34So nobody wants
18:34A food fight
18:35With the farmers
18:35In front of the parliament
18:37Which is why
18:37It's a good deal
18:38You know what
18:38I think
18:39EU negotiators
18:40Have learned
18:40From Mercosur
18:41Having waited
18:42For 20 years
18:43And we've
18:44We've seen
18:44It's little or no
18:45Beef involved
18:45In this deal
18:46At all
18:46So that's why
18:47Your voters
18:48Will love it
18:48Because there's
18:48No
18:49Please hear
18:49It's a key
18:50Indigenous industry
18:51Right across Europe
18:52So at the end of the day
18:53Europe must protect
18:54Its markets as well
18:55So the balance
18:55Was needed
18:56And she's found the balance
18:57We're quite happy with this
18:57But Irish risk
18:58You will see
18:59Sell into India
18:59And better volumes
19:00Than ever before
19:01We're really pleased
19:01About it
19:02But we're also glad
19:03To see the
19:04Going the other way
19:04We think it's good
19:05For Europe
19:05Because of the scale
19:06That's the key issue
19:07Balance
19:08While Europe
19:09Has and the scale
19:09Of what's possible
19:10Okay
19:11And so now
19:11The workforce
19:12Is
19:13They
19:14They can afford
19:14To buy a Volvo
19:15You mean
19:15In India
19:16And the Irish
19:18Can afford to
19:19Buy another car
19:19In Ireland
19:20With the whiskey sales
19:21Increase
19:21It's a win-win
19:22It's a win-win
19:22Which will happen
19:23In America
19:24As well
19:24Well
19:25Not because of the scale
19:26I'm quite genuine
19:27About that
19:27It doesn't have
19:28The scale
19:28That's
19:29If you look
19:29Say in Ireland
19:30At the moment
19:30We've got half a billion
19:32Sales already
19:32Into India
19:33In terms of whiskey
19:34Already
19:34Before we start
19:35Whereas the
19:36Mercosur
19:36Exports
19:37Are tiny
19:38From an Irish
19:38Perspective
19:39270 million
19:40Consumers
19:41I think
19:41The viewers
19:41Can assess
19:43That
19:431.5
19:44We will continue
19:45Discussing it
19:46In one minute
19:46But just
19:47We must take
19:48A short break here
19:49On the ring
19:49But stay with us
19:50Because we'll be back
19:51Very soon
19:51With some more
19:52Political punch
19:53From the parliament
19:54In the ring
19:59In the ring
25:39Yes.
25:40Do you like that Brussels trades on behalf of the 27, Kieran?
25:44Yes, in key...
25:44Is globalisation a good thing, Jörg?
25:50Yes.
25:51Yes, in controlled and regulated.
25:53Kieran, is the EU...
25:54Yes, is the answer, and I'm a big believer in that.
25:59But we have to be even more...
25:59More relevant and not reacting to the US and other parties or the world powers.
26:03Yes, and with the Mercosur...
26:04Was it a mistake to sign the EU-US trade deal back?
26:09Was it a mistake in Scotland back in July?
26:12No.
26:13Yes, because we were bullied.
26:14On that Sunday in July, our president of the commission was bullied into submission.
26:19Should that deal be ratified, yes or no?
26:23I think it should stay suspended.
26:24Until we clarify exactly what's going on in the United States.
26:27We need that deal.
26:29We need it concretely.
26:29Struggling there with the yes or no, Mr. Malouli.
26:32We need more predictability.
26:34I say more.
26:34We cannot create a lot of...
26:36We cannot create absolutely stable situation for businesses.
26:39So should the deal be ratified?
26:41It should, because it creates more predictability than today.
26:44Final question.
26:44Mr. Malouli, did you agree with anything that Jorgen Warbon said today?
26:48Oh, I certainly did.
26:49I mean, we...
26:49The overall trade deal, Jorgen is right.
26:52We need to do the big deals.
26:53That's why I'm happy with India.
26:54But it all comes down at the end of the day, for me, to a personal choice.
26:58Jorgen, would you be happy with your family?
26:59Thank you.
26:59Have you seen Brazilian meat tomorrow?
27:01And what about you?
27:02Yes.
27:03Yes, absolutely.
27:04I do eat.
27:04Brazilian meat and Irish meat and Swedish meat.
27:07You have no idea where it came from?
27:08I have no problems with that.
27:09Do you agree with anything Kieran Malouli said here today?
27:12Yes, I think it is very good that Kieran is supportive.
27:14of the Indian, the agreement with India.
27:19We need that.
27:19We need more trade agreements in general.
27:22What a lively debate.
27:23I think we've given our viewers a real glimpse.
27:24of what it's like inside the heated hemicycle.
27:27Thank you so much, Jorgen Warburne and Kieran Malouli.
27:29for being our guest.
27:31It was great to hear your views.
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