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00:00Today I'm interviewing one of the most defining figures from the last quarter century of celebrity
00:05history a true icon Paris Hilton and I started our careers around the same
00:10time in the two thousands I wrote about her in the pages of the magazines I've worked for she was the
00:15original influencer as the socialite queen of the nightlife with the famous last name
00:20after a very public betrayal involving a leaked sex tape Paris did something people did
00:25expect she leveraged her notoriety and built a ground-breaking reality show
00:30an entertainment empire that she estimates to be worth one billion dollars today
00:35she's a multi-hyphenate entrepreneur with ventures in music fashion skincare and even
00:40as 30 fragrances and for many people the idea of Paris Hilton still comes
00:45up someone impossibly unrelatable wrapped in luxury and privilege she's the last
00:50person you'd imagine to be just like us but in recent years Paris has evolved beyond
00:55just being a successful businesswoman she's become more vulnerable and opened up to tell her full
01:00story and what was really going on behind the glitter and glamour in doing so she's made
01:05valuable contributions to the world in a 2020 documentary this is Paris she told her how
01:10the following story of being sent off to Utah's Provo Canyon School and became an advocate for
01:15survivors of the troubled teen industry leading to the passing of legislation reform she also
01:20uses her platform to talk about the misogynistic treatment of women in media and her charity
01:25work including launching funds for wildlife relief and is a vocal advocate for animals
01:30for all the time for children in the country and for children in the future and for her children
01:34in the future and for the new yoro divergent and the LGBTQ communities
01:35So although Paris may live the high life and may or may not have an entire...
01:40...dedicated to her 10,000 pairs of sunglasses, she has challenges and setbacks that...
01:45...to reveal, she may just be just like us. Today we'll dive deep into her life and...
01:50...documentary Infinite Icon, a visual memoir and assess how just like us...
01:55...this is Paris Hilton.
02:00So do you have a room for 10,000 sunglasses?
02:04I have lots of sunglasses.
02:05And that was at my other house that I just moved into. So this house...
02:10...has my glam room and it has my 10,000 sunglasses in it, yeah.
02:14So I like to start...
02:15...at my interviews with a little ritual about something personal about the person...
02:19...and I was so dumb.
02:20Confounded that you have 30 perfumes. I asked your team to send me some.
02:25...so that we could test them. So tell me about this one.
02:28This is my 30th fragrance.
02:30And it's called Iconic. And it is so beautiful. It has like...
02:34It really...
02:35...the rose tint. I love rose.
02:37Yes.
02:38It's like peony, raspberry...
02:40...rose. Those are some of the notes. And it's just like...
02:45...the house is just like very...
02:47...light, summery.
02:49...gorgeous.
02:50And I feel like men and women could both wear it.
02:53I would... I wear rose tint tones.
02:55And sometimes.
02:56I love it.
02:57What...
02:58If you've got 30 perfumes, how do you decide what...
03:00...to wear in the morning?
03:02I...
03:03...just kind of like what mood I'm in.
03:05I love that I have one literally for like every day of the month because there's 30.
03:08And do you only wear your own?
03:09Yeah.
03:10Yes.
03:11I've not worn another person's perfume since I was a little girl.
03:14But it's such a...
03:15...because when I was a little girl I would always go into my mom's boudoir and she collects perfumes.
03:20And my sister and I would be playing with all of them.
03:22And I was like, Mom, one day I'm going to have my own perfume.
03:25So...
03:25So now to have just released my 30th is just another dream come true.
03:28Well, it's not just like us to have...
03:30...but they are quite reasonable, right?
03:32What a surprise point.
03:33Yes.
03:34These are at Ulta Beauty.
03:35And for the size, this one's 80.
03:38So we're here in your craft room.
03:40And this helps your ADHD, right?
03:42It does.
03:43This is like...
03:44If you...
03:45If you looked inside my mind, what it looks like.
03:47I feel like the camera can't see at all because like...
03:50...the top with the rainbow and the butterflies, the clouds.
03:53Like...
03:54It feels like a dream.
03:55And when I walk in here with the kids, like we have so much fun doing art and just hanging out and...
04:00It's also my office and I love being able to look out the window and see...
04:05...like my 11-11 office and the waterfall and the just beautiful backyard.
04:10And all of it.
04:11It just...
04:12It's your safe space.
04:13Yeah.
04:14It just literally looks...
04:15Like when I was little, I would make like mood boards and like manifest what I wanted.
04:20In life, I really...
04:21Like this is what it was.
04:22And crafting gives you that...
04:23Yeah.
04:24That safe space.
04:25I love it.
04:26Well, you're...
04:27We're here in your home.
04:28It's absolutely beautiful.
04:29It's Beverly Hills.
04:30It is not quite just like us, but it is very unapologetically you.
04:35Are there any elements of just like us around the house?
04:38Are there like piles of unfolded lawns?
04:40Are there laundry?
04:41Are there dishes fill in the sink?
04:42I feel like it's just like...
04:45Any other family's house with kids.
04:47You know, there's toys everywhere.
04:49There's...
04:50Of course, like the laundry room as a laundry.
04:52Um, but then also we have like a water slide and...
04:55Like the pink tennis court and all the other fun things.
04:59It's like...
05:00The ultimate fun house.
05:01Like I feel like this is like the house I dreamed of since I was a little girl.
05:05So it's fabulous, but it's relatable and family just like everybody else.
05:09Just like regular folks.
05:10And I think that's what your new documentary really shows as well.
05:14It's an...
05:15It's an exploration into the human side of you, just like our side of you.
05:19Because it shows your...
05:20Life as a music icon and it marries that with the vulnerability of what...
05:25You've gone through.
05:26Behind the stardust and the glitter, it says I am...
05:30You're human.
05:31Like what do you want people to take away from the documentary?
05:34I feel that...
05:35This is really like a third part of a trilogy.
05:38Like the first time I really opened up...
05:40And, you know, showed people who I was, was through my first documentary.
05:44This is Paris.
05:45And then going even deeper through my memoir.
05:48And now in this part...
05:50With Infinite Icon, it's like my whole life through the lens of music.
05:55And just going back, you know, from the beginning, since I was a...
06:00Little Girl and all these dreams that I had.
06:02But then just going into so much more.
06:05Because I feel like within these past five years, I've just been on this whole journey.
06:10Of self-discovery and just learning so much and healing so much.
06:15And just so much has happened.
06:16So I just wanted to show that story and...
06:20I feel like it's also a story that others can relate to as well.
06:22I think we're going to talk through lots of those different points.
06:25On there, but to start with the music, I loved seeing you on the stage and so happy.
06:30And it being such a fulfilling journey.
06:32How does it feel to be up there when you're performing?
06:35When I'm on stage, it feels like the most incredible, magical feeling.
06:40In the world, just seeing everyone in the audience so happy and...
06:45excited and screaming and crying and singing along and dancing and just the...
06:50energy and love in the room is like another level.
06:53And when I'm up there, I just feel like...
06:55this was what I was born to do.
06:56It's funny because I've followed your career and worked with...
07:00you and covered your career for so long.
07:03And I never realized that music...
07:05was the pure love.
07:07And so, like, it made me wonder watching...
07:10the documentary.
07:11Do you feel that becoming famous before you explore music...
07:15hampered your ability to become a pop star quicker?
07:18Yeah, I do.
07:19I think that...
07:20just, you know, from doing The Simple Life, like a reality show...
07:23I think anyone who does reality...
07:25and then if they go into music...
07:27you're just not going to be taken seriously.
07:29And...
07:30especially during the early 2000s...
07:32when just the media...
07:34was...
07:35just extremely cruel to young women in the industry.
07:38So...
07:40it was always...
07:41really hurtful to me because it was just such a dream of mine,
07:44you know.
07:45ever since I could remember what I'd love to do...
07:47since I was literally, like, three years old.
07:49Like...
07:50I just...
07:51always wanted to be a pop star...
07:52but...
07:53I just felt that...
07:54my music didn't...
07:55didn't get the chance that it deserved...
07:56because...
07:57the media was controlling everything back then...
07:59and...
08:00now today, with social media, I'm actually able to hear what...
08:03the fans and people really think.
08:05so...
08:06And you can control your own narrative...
08:07and have your own voice.
08:08Yes, exactly.
08:09Well, I was a part of that media...
08:10you were at the time...
08:11I don't think I was mean to you...
08:12but I'd like to apologise...
08:13and...
08:14but...
08:15have you got any questions...
08:15for me about, like, at that time...
08:17covering the media and how unfair it was?
08:19Like...
08:20for you, I'm sure, just being in...
08:22the newsroom...
08:23Yeah.
08:24like...
08:25were you ever...
08:25pressured for them...
08:26to try...
08:27to make you...
08:28do or say things that you felt...
08:29like...
08:30uncomfortable asking?
08:31like...
08:32you felt like it was...
08:33going too far sometimes?
08:34I think there were times when there were...
08:35stories...
08:36where...
08:37I look back...
08:38and I'm like...
08:39why...
08:40did...
08:41they take that...
08:42direction...
08:43and it questions...
08:44I think...
08:45I believe media reflects society...
08:47and society was meaner back then...
08:49and that's...
08:50what people wanted...
08:51now people don't...
08:52want that...
08:53there's different meaner elements...
08:54on social media...
08:55but I think it's an...
08:56interesting question...
08:57or I think...
08:58there are certainly things...
08:59I regret being involved in.
09:00back at the time...
09:01and...
09:02I think the media has done better...
09:03in recent years...
09:04and I hope you find that...
09:05as well...
09:06definitely...
09:07I know that...
09:08so many of the things...
09:09you know...
09:10the way that...
09:10myself and other girls...
09:11were treated back then...
09:12would not happen today...
09:13it would not be accepted...
09:14so at least it's...
09:15changed for other people...
09:16so I think that's...
09:17like the silver lining...
09:18you had to go for...
09:19a lot of pain...
09:20to get there...
09:21a big theme from the documentary...
09:22of music saving your life...
09:23tell me...
09:24how that worked for you...
09:25just...
09:27you know...
09:28just from going through...
09:29so many traumatic experiences...
09:30as a teenager...
09:32and...
09:33you know...
09:34it was just so...
09:35painful...
09:36and traumatizing...
09:37and...
09:38when I got out...
09:39of those boarding schools...
09:40I just remember...
09:41like when I would...
09:42go out at night...
09:43it was like...
09:44the one thing...
09:45that I would just...
09:45forget about...
09:46all the pain...
09:47and just like...
09:48lose myself in the music...
09:49and have so much fun...
09:50and I just...
09:50felt...
09:51like this whole community...
09:52or I just felt...
09:53so accepted...
09:54and...
09:55no one was...
09:56judgmental...
09:55it was just...
09:56all about having...
09:57an incredible time...
09:58and...
09:59just...
10:00I don't know...
10:01I just...
10:02I love music...
10:03I love to dance...
10:04I love the lights...
10:05I love...
10:06the people...
10:05the escapism...
10:06yeah...
10:07you've been through...
10:08so much...
10:09and you touched...
10:10on some of it there...
10:10what has been...
10:11the hardest thing...
10:12to recover from...
10:13you've dealt with...
10:14sexual abuse...
10:15as a kid...
10:15so...
10:16the sex tape...
10:17the media treatment...
10:18what was the...
10:19what's...
10:20been the hardest...
10:20thing to heal from...
10:21do you think?
10:22hmm...
10:23all of it...
10:24you know...
10:25I think...
10:25these are things...
10:26that will...
10:27definitely affect me...
10:28for the rest of my life...
10:29but...
10:30especially...
10:30being...
10:31in these schools...
10:32which...
10:33my parents were told...
10:34it was called...
10:35a...
10:35emotional growth...
10:36boarding schools...
10:37and...
10:38they were sold...
10:39a lie...
10:40these places...
10:41are so many...
10:40manipulative...
10:41and...
10:42their marketing tactics...
10:43everything...
10:44they had brochures...
10:45where kids were...
10:45smiling...
10:46and...
10:47there was like...
10:48rainbows...
10:49and people were...
10:50riding horses...
10:51and everyone...
10:52looked so happy...
10:53in that situation...
10:54and...
10:55it was terrifying...
10:56just to be around...
10:57these adults...
10:58who...
10:58were literally...
10:59abusing...
11:00all of us...
11:01in so many ways...
11:02and...
11:03it's just...
11:04it took...
11:05many years...
11:06for me...
11:07to even talk about it...
11:08it was so...
11:08traumatizing...
11:09where it took me...
11:10you know...
11:1120 years...
11:12to even tell anyone...
11:13why do you think...
11:14there was...
11:15a shame...
11:16attached to it...
11:17definitely...
11:18and I think that's...
11:18the way they get away...
11:19with it...
11:20where they shame...
11:21the kids in these places...
11:22so much...
11:23where they're...
11:23we...
11:24were just too...
11:25embarrassed...
11:26and scared...
11:27to talk about it...
11:28and it was just...
11:28so...
11:29the things that happened...
11:30were just so like...
11:31crazy...
11:32it just...
11:33it...
11:33you wouldn't feel like...
11:34anyone would believe you...
11:35or...
11:36and...
11:37you kind of...
11:38go into...
11:38being told you're a bad kid...
11:39this is why you're here...
11:40yeah...
11:41and it just...
11:42it was just...
11:43it's horrible...
11:44what they do in these places...
11:45and plus...
11:46they get away with it...
11:47because they can...
11:48say to the parents...
11:48oh...
11:49they're...
11:50they're bad kids...
11:51they're lying...
11:52they're manipulating...
11:53they're trying to...
11:54you know...
11:55go home...
11:53so they're gonna say...
11:54that we're abusing them...
11:55they're gonna say this...
11:56they kind of tell the parents...
11:57what they're actually doing...
11:58they're lying...
11:59they're lying...
12:00and of course...
12:01if you're sending your child...
12:02to a place...
12:03and you think...
12:03they're gonna be protected...
12:04and you have no idea...
12:05the type of people...
12:06that work at these places...
12:08it's...
12:09you know...
12:10a recipe for disaster...
12:11I mean...
12:12I read some of...
12:13in your memoir...
12:13that...
12:14you're encouraged...
12:15to verbally abuse...
12:16each other...
12:17and then hug each other...
12:18afterwards...
12:18to untangle...
12:19mental abuse like that...
12:20it's...
12:21it just...
12:22I don't understand it...
12:23it blows my mind...
12:24how they think...
12:25that that's therapy...
12:26and when you go...
12:27into a place...
12:28and you...
12:28come out...
12:29more traumatized...
12:30than when you went in...
12:31Did it make you scared...
12:32of therapy...
12:33after that?
12:34Yeah...
12:33I've never had therapy...
12:34You've never had...
12:35therapy after that...
12:36because...
12:37it made me not...
12:38trust anyone...
12:38especially...
12:39people...
12:40like therapists...
12:41because I just thought...
12:42they were all...
12:43those type of people...
12:43and...
12:44um...
12:45it was just...
12:46a neat...
12:47that being a mom...
12:48it just makes me...
12:49even more...
12:50just...
12:51upset...
12:52and that's why...
12:53I just want to...
12:54continue...
12:55fighting...
12:56and using...
12:57leave them...
12:58in so many years...
12:59until...
13:00I've told my story...
13:01and now...
13:02it's started...
13:03an entire movement...
13:04it's been so difficult...
13:05especially for my mom...
13:06and dad to hear...
13:07about these things...
13:08because they had...
13:09no idea...
13:10the forgiveness...
13:11like even though...
13:12they were tricked...
13:13the forgiveness...
13:14process for you...
13:15with that...
13:14it must have been...
13:15so difficult...
13:16because I knew...
13:17that they had no idea...
13:18because that's...
13:19none of the parents...
13:20knew that this was happening...
13:21and...
13:22um...
13:23it's been...
13:24yeah...
13:25it's been like...
13:26a whole...
13:27my mom has just been...
13:28so...
13:29sad...
13:30just to hear...
13:31what has happened...
13:32and she's been...
13:33coming with me...
13:34to DC...
13:34to help speak...
13:35with the other parents...
13:36and...
13:37to let them know...
13:38her story as well...
13:39because it's important...
13:39for other families to know...
13:40because I feel like...
13:41the parents are just as much...
13:42the victims in this...
13:43well thank...
13:44thank you for using...
13:45your voice for good...
13:46thank you...
13:47it's been...
13:48the most meaningful...
13:49work of my life...
13:50like...
13:51when I was a little girl...
13:52I would have...
13:53no idea...
13:54that one day...
13:54I would be...
13:55I was...
13:56testifying in Congress...
13:57I would have passed...
13:58fifteen...
13:59state laws...
14:00and...
14:01the past two...
14:02federal bills...
14:03to protect children...
14:04so...
14:05it may...
14:04makes it all worth it...
14:05that I'm able to...
14:06help that from happening...
14:07to others...
14:08you should be...
14:09proud...
14:09so...
14:10instead of...
14:11traditional therapy...
14:12music's been something...
14:13that really has helped...
14:14to escape...
14:14and to disassociate...
14:15with a lot of the pain...
14:16and the healing...
14:17what...
14:18what...
14:19do you think...
14:19would have happened...
14:20if you didn't have music...
14:21to help you?
14:22I don't know...
14:23I think...
14:24out of thinking...
14:25of everything in my life...
14:26like music...
14:27art...
14:28and music...
14:29things...
14:30that helped me so much...
14:31and...
14:32even through doing...
14:33this documentary...
14:34I've just seen...
14:34like the power...
14:35in music...
14:36and...
14:37even the power...
14:38in listening to a lyric...
14:39and a song...
14:39like something...
14:40that could change your mood...
14:41or even change your life...
14:42and...
14:43just so many...
14:44of my fans...
14:45have come up to me...
14:46and said...
14:47thank you so much...
14:48for your album...
14:49it saved my life...
14:49like...
14:50thank you for your memoir...
14:51you have no idea...
14:52how much it means to me...
14:53so just to see...
14:54like the impact...
14:55it could make...
14:56on someone's life...
14:57and...
14:58I love that I'm able now...
14:59to have these...
14:59concerts...
15:00and create these...
15:01safe spaces...
15:02where my fans can come...
15:03and...
15:04dress up...
15:05however they want to...
15:04wear like...
15:05these outfits...
15:06and have so much fun...
15:07and just...
15:08lose their self...
15:09in my music...
15:09and have the most...
15:10incredible night...
15:11and forget about...
15:12anything bad...
15:13that's happening...
15:14in their life...
15:14what's...
15:15what's the darkest moment...
15:16you've been through...
15:17was it in...
15:18Provo?
15:19yes...
15:20just the...
15:21things that happened...
15:22to those places...
15:23should never happen to it...
15:24anyone...
15:25and especially...
15:26not a child...
15:27and...
15:28just...
15:29being terrified...
15:30every single day...
15:31of like...
15:32what was gonna happen next...
15:33and then having...
15:34severe nightmares about it...
15:36for...
15:37you know...
15:3820 years...
15:39until I started talking...
15:39telling my story...
15:40Were there moments...
15:41where you didn't want...
15:42to be here anymore?
15:43What...
15:44when I was in there...
15:45I was...
15:46it felt...
15:47everyone I felt...
15:48felt that way...
15:49like...
15:50you just...
15:49was like...
15:50it would be better...
15:51not to live...
15:52than being in these...
15:53type of places...
15:54um...
15:56but...
15:57it did make me really strong...
15:58where...
15:59it almost...
15:59prepared me...
16:00for Hollywood...
16:01in a sense...
16:02because I don't know...
16:03if I could have...
16:04survived the two...
16:042000s...
16:05and the way...
16:06I was treated...
16:07unless I had already...
16:08been through...
16:09such hell before...
16:09documentary...
16:10there was a line...
16:11that really stuck with me...
16:12where you said...
16:13life doesn't stop...
16:14life doesn't stop...
16:15with the drama...
16:16so neither should you...
16:17and I found it...
16:18really interesting...
16:19and something...
16:20I've tried to embrace...
16:21like...
16:22life is crazy...
16:23and bad things...
16:24are always gonna happen...
16:25and you've just...
16:24got to...
16:25power through...
16:26and we see that...
16:27in the documentary...
16:28when the fire...
16:29happens in the trailer...
16:29and you're...
16:30you've just...
16:31got to keep going...
16:32it's a pivotal moment...
16:33in the production...
16:34of the...
16:34at all...
16:35how do you...
16:36manage to carry on...
16:37when bad things happen...
16:38and...
16:39you're somebody who...
16:39things have happened...
16:40constantly...
16:41and you...
16:42are always smiling...
16:43you're always positive...
16:44from going...
16:44through so much...
16:45in my life...
16:46it's made me...
16:47so strong...
16:48and resilient...
16:49where...
16:50I can make it...
16:49through anything...
16:50so no matter what...
16:51life throws at me...
16:52it just continues...
16:53to make me...
16:54stronger...
16:55every single time...
16:56well...
16:57I'm loving...
16:58this pop journey...
16:59what...
16:59do you want to do...
17:00next...
17:01with your pop career...
17:02this has just been...
17:03so...
17:04so much fun...
17:05just...
17:06living out my dreams...
17:07and now...
17:08I've been in the...
17:09studio...
17:10the past year...
17:11and just finishing up...
17:12my third album...
17:13which will be...
17:14really...
17:14released next year...
17:15and I can't wait...
17:16we have a big tour...
17:17planned...
17:18so I can't wait...
17:19to perform...
17:19around the world...
17:20and then get started...
17:21on my fourth album...
17:22this is what...
17:23I love to do...
17:24more than anything...
17:25Have you got...
17:26advice from your...
17:27musical friends...
17:28like Brittany?
17:29we were just talking...
17:30about music...
17:31the other night...
17:32we were in Cabo...
17:33for her birthday...
17:34the other night...
17:35yeah...
17:36it was such...
17:37an amazing night...
17:38and...
17:39yeah...
17:40we always love...
17:41to like...
17:42play music...
17:43we love...
17:44to have to play...
17:46can't wait...
17:47to have to play...
17:48to have...
17:49to have to play...
17:51Yes, yes...
17:52it was such...
17:53it was such...
17:54an amazing night...
17:55I love her so much. She's an angel.
17:57And you threw her birthday party, was that accurate?
17:59Yeah.
18:00That's lovely that she's got such a good sisterly bond with you.
18:05You keep it very low-key as well, and I'm sure she appreciates that.
18:08You're someone who is so...
18:10Super famous. Do you ever wish you weren't famous at all?
18:15I feel like this is something I was born to do as well.
18:20I feel like there's certain people in life that this is what they're meant to be.
18:25So even though it's been so difficult and hard, I try to think about...
18:30all the beautiful things that come with it, and I really see fame as like a superpower.
18:35To make people happy.
18:36So I love that I'm able to just make people...
18:40those days by like taking a photo with them or spending time with them or just...
18:45anything, smiling, just...
18:47I feel like it just makes people so happy.
18:49So I think...
18:50that's one of the good things you can do with it.
18:52And I love that I'm able to use my platform just to make...
18:55a difference in other people's lives.
18:57So even though it has been very traumatic...
19:00traumatising at times, it's worth it.
19:03I like that.
19:04I love that you're using your...
19:05fame and your platform to do good in the world.
19:07How...
19:08how about money?
19:09How do you think...
19:10money brings you happiness?
19:11It does because I have worked so hard and...
19:15success is something that has always really been a driving force for me and...
19:20I feel very lucky just to grow up in my family and have incredible business mentors.
19:25of my grandfather and my parents and I always have loved to make them.
19:30really proud and I love that I've created this entire brand and...
19:35empire and now 1111, my media company.
19:38So...
19:39it...
19:40makes me happy because I'm able just to...
19:42feel that happiness.
19:44And I think that also...
19:45just from going to those schools and being so controlled that I made a promise to myself...
19:50that I was going to work so hard and become so successful that no one could ever control...
19:55tell me or tell me what to do again.
19:57So I really see it as freedom.
19:59So you use...
20:00the pain that you went through and the restrictions and the abuse to...
20:04to...
20:05to...
20:05to...
20:06drive your...
20:07your...
20:08your...
20:09your...
20:10your...
20:11ambition.
20:12Yes.
20:13What you...
20:14You...
20:15You...
20:16You...
20:17You...
20:18I'm very privileged that I'm, you know, came from a family where...
20:23I've been able to learn so much from such incredible businessmen and women.
20:28And just, you know, coming from my last name as well, so...
20:33But I've seen a lot of other people who come from, you know, prestigious families.
20:38And a lot of them don't do anything, like a lot of people I know.
20:43Like they just get like an allowance from their parents still.
20:45They've never worked a day in their life.
20:47And...
20:48I've also seen just how unhappy they are because I feel like they have no fulfillment in life because...
20:53They are just handed everything and they've never had to work for any of it.
20:57So...
20:58Yes, I can understand people.
20:59They don't know and don't see how much work has went into every...
21:03Everything that I do and just how...
21:05What I've created and what I've built and...
21:08You know, what I've been through on top of all that.
21:12So I think...
21:13If people know me, they understand.
21:14But then if there's like an outsider who just, you know, sees the name Paris Hilton...
21:18So I can understand how some people would think that.
21:21Because I would say I'm self-made, but like my...
21:23Granddad paid for me to go to journalism school.
21:25Everybody's going to get some help.
21:26How much help did you get?
21:28Yeah.
21:29At the beginning.
21:30I...
21:31Like used to get like an allowance, but I haven't...
21:33Had anything since I was 18.
21:3418.
21:35So...
21:36That's the same as me.
21:37My...
21:38Mine was probably 21 through college.
21:40So...
21:41You didn't get money from your parents.
21:42There was no trust fund.
21:43Nothing like that.
21:44I've been working since I was...
21:4616.
21:47And so they...
21:48Didn't help with the deposit for a house or anything like that.
21:50No, I did everything on my own.
21:51So that's really not fair that...
21:53People like criticize you for being...
21:56Not believing that you're self-made because...
21:58There was a New York Post thing saying fans are reacting, saying she's delusional.
22:01Thinking she's self-made.
22:03They actually knew everything and saw everything they would understand.
22:06That's...
22:07That's really...
22:08Very interesting.
22:09So...
22:10Congratulations.
22:11How will you handle that balance with your own...
22:13Your own kids?
22:14Because obviously you've been incredibly successful.
22:17How will you create the balance?
22:18Trying to work out how much to support to give them?
22:22I think it's...
22:23It's...
22:24You know, just from growing up in this way and seeing so many others, I think...
22:28If you spoil your children, you will destroy them.
22:31So that's something that my husband and I talk about.
22:33Where we, of course, want to give them the most beautiful life, make them so happy, but...
22:37We also...
22:38People want to instill that work ethic in them and make them want to do something with their own lives.
22:43And I think with my babies growing up and seeing just how hard I work and everything I accomplish...
22:48It's going to be really inspirational to them.
22:50And that's why I've built so much at the house.
22:53That's where I have my recording studio here, the podcasting studio, the photo studio...
22:58Just like so much of my work I'm able to do from home and my kids are always there watching everything.
23:03So I feel like that will be instilled in them.
23:06Just like any time in a meeting here...
23:08I feel like they're sitting on my lap.
23:09So like I feel like even the other babies, they're soaking it in and they'll continue...
23:13To do so throughout their life.
23:15So yeah, I think for my kids...
23:18I just want them to be so happy and be incredible human beings and I want them to do whatever...
23:23It never makes them happy.
23:24You've talked a lot about reclaiming your narrative.
23:26What's one misconception about...
23:28Paris Hilton that you're still trying to correct?
23:30I feel like I've been such an open book.
23:33In the past five years where I've discussed everything.
23:36So I don't really think...
23:38I don't think there's any anymore.
23:39I feel like I've cleared up so many misconceptions.
23:43I feel like before they just thought I was a dumb blonde because of the simple life but...
23:48I've proved that I am not a dumb blonde.
23:50I'm just very good at pretending to be blonde.
23:52Well...
23:53That comes on to my next question actually.
23:56I loved in the movie when...
23:58You're doing a recording and somebody says,
24:01You can use your real voice on this one and...
24:03It reminded me I was on your BFF show with you back in the day and we would record and...
24:08And you'd have this baby voice saying,
24:09That's hot.
24:10And then we'd go off and you'll be with Benji talking about...
24:13Beats and this voice so low.
24:15And I would just be like,
24:16She's two different people and so...
24:18Like...
24:19You pretended to be somebody.
24:21Was that...
24:23When...
24:23Where did that come from?
24:24Was that protectionism?
24:25Protecting yourself by being a caricature?
24:28Or was that strategically to play a part and earn money?
24:32I think...
24:33You know...
24:33I didn't even realize until...
24:35You still do it.
24:36Was it high or low then?
24:37That was low.
24:38See, I literally can't even control it.
24:40I think it's just such a part of me now because I've been doing it for so...
24:43But I do think it was a trauma response to what I went through.
24:48Where I just kind of wanted to build this perfect Barbie doll life.
24:53And...
24:54Like a Disney...
24:55Kind of...
24:56I don't know...
24:57Barbie character.
24:58And then...
24:59You know...
25:00Getting the simple life.
25:01And then the producer is telling me...
25:03You know...
25:04We want you to play this kind of blonde...
25:05Spoiled airhead.
25:06And play into this caric...
25:08And this was the first reality show.
25:11And I had no idea I'd have to continue...
25:13On that character for five seasons straight.
25:15And then...
25:16Every talk show and everything I would go on.
25:18Then...
25:19I would be the character.
25:20And then I just kind of got...
25:21Stuck in it almost.
25:22Because the whole world thought...
25:23That's who I really was.
25:24And I'm also a very naturally shy person.
25:27So I feel like...
25:28Being the character.
25:29It made it easier for me...
25:30To kind of...
25:31Be silly.
25:33And say...
25:34Say ridiculous things.
25:35I don't know.
25:36I feel like if the simple life...
25:37Had me talking in my normal voice...
25:38And not playing the character...
25:39It would not have been the show...
25:40That it was.
25:41I can see that.
25:42I...
25:43I know Nikki.
25:44Your sister.
25:45And she's shy too.
25:46And...
25:47That shyness...
25:48Comes across...
25:48With both of you.
25:49And it's an understanding that like...
25:51You're playing a part...
25:52To get through...
25:53Social anxiety.
25:54Sometimes I'll do that at parties.
25:55Like...
25:56I've got to be Dan Wakeford tonight.
25:58Like...
25:59How do you deal with social anxiety now?
26:01I still have social...
26:03And I think that might be the ADHD as well.
26:06Because I'm just so in my head all the time.
26:08And...
26:09I get just...
26:10I think also since the pandemic...
26:11Like...
26:12I've gotten just like...
26:13Like...
26:14Way more anxiety than I used to.
26:16Um...
26:17But then if I'm around like...
26:18If I bring like...
26:19The best friend.
26:20Or like...
26:21I'm with like...
26:22A group of people I trust.
26:23Then I...
26:23Feel more comfortable.
26:24But if I'm just like...
26:25Going in somewhere...
26:26And not knowing anyone...
26:28Sometimes I get a little nervous.
26:29I think that's normal.
26:30I feel like everyone...
26:31I mean it's just like us.
26:32It's just like regular...
26:33Folks...
26:34Everybody deals with mental health issues.
26:35But people wouldn't imagine...
26:36That Paris Hilton...
26:37This striking...
26:38Beautiful blonde woman...
26:39With everything.
26:40Would be nervous...
26:41Going into...
26:42Going into an event.
26:43Yeah.
26:44I think people would definitely...
26:45Be surprised to know that.
26:46What's your...
26:47What's your...
26:48Relationship with the character...
26:49Of Paris Hilton these days?
26:51Well...
26:52I think...
26:53Before I saw it as like...
26:54A form of protection.
26:55And now I see it as...
26:57Like my...
26:58This fun silly side.
26:59Like...
27:00You know...
27:01There's a time and place...
27:02For everything.
27:03Like when I'm doing TikToks...
27:04Or just like doing certain content...
27:06Or...
27:07You know...
27:08Like different campaigns...
27:08With brands...
27:09And they want me to play the character...
27:10Like...
27:11I...
27:12I will do it.
27:13And I love...
27:13Doing it.
27:14Um...
27:15And then...
27:16Obviously when I go to DC...
27:17And I'm speaking...
27:18On Capitol Hill...
27:19And talking about...
27:20Serious subjects...
27:21That's when you see...
27:22Like...
27:23The real side of me.
27:24Um...
27:25But yeah...
27:26I just...
27:27I can do it...
27:28Back and forth.
27:28We can all have...
27:29Silly sides...
27:30And serious sides...
27:31It's fun.
27:32I think a lot of artists...
27:33And people do...
27:34Like they...
27:35A lot of people I've spoken to...
27:36Like actors...
27:37Beyoncé...
27:38Sasha Fierce...
27:39JLo...
27:40Jennifer Lopez...
27:41We all have that...
27:42And then we all have the one...
27:43When we're at home...
27:44You know...
27:45Chilling in our sweats...
27:46And just like...
27:47Laid back...
27:48And just like...
27:48Ourselves...
27:49So you are just like us...
27:50You're playing the part...
27:51Of an entitled heiress...
27:52But now...
27:5320 years have passed...
27:54I have to ask you the question...
27:56Was the warm-up question set up?
27:58Did you really not know...
27:59What a warm-up was at the time?
28:03I did.
28:04You did that?
28:05I did, yeah.
28:06You did.
28:07I just thought it would be a funny line.
28:08And you came up with a line?
28:09I just...
28:10Yeah.
28:11It wasn't like I thought about it in advance...
28:12Because I didn't even...
28:13We were gonna talk about Walmart...
28:14Yeah.
28:15But when it came up...
28:16I was like...
28:17In my mind...
28:18I was like...
28:19This will be funny.
28:18I had no idea it would be such an iconic line...
28:20That people to this day still say...
28:23Um...
28:24And now I have like...
28:25My entire...
28:26Kitchenware and homeware...
28:27And...
28:28All of the fragrances were in Walmart...
28:29All of it, yeah...
28:30So...
28:31When was the last time you were in Walmart?
28:32Um...
28:33I was there...
28:33Two weeks ago...
28:34Um...
28:35In Arkansas actually...
28:36I go there all the time...
28:37Um...
28:38To...
28:38Go meet with the whole team out there...
28:39And...
28:40I was showing them all the new products...
28:41From my new line...
28:42For Paris and Pup...
28:43And...
28:44My new homeware line...
28:45And kitchenware line...
28:46And...
28:47Storage line...
28:48And...
28:48All of it...
28:49I have so...
28:50I have like...
28:51Over 400 SKUs of products...
28:52Inside of Walmart...
28:53So now I know they don't sell walls...
28:55They sell...
28:56Paris Hilton products...
28:57You're just a...
28:58You're just a...
28:58Comedy icon...
28:59Um...
29:00Moving on to something a bit more difficult...
29:01The sex tape...
29:03Um...
29:04It's really heartbreaking...
29:05Looking back on the doc...
29:06In the documentary...
29:07And you talk about it...
29:08You had no agency about this...
29:10Besides Pamela Anderson...
29:12You were the first...
29:13Celebrity to go through this...
29:15Publicly...
29:16And...
29:17Internet was different...
29:18And...
29:19Copyright was different...
29:20It was a wild, wild west...
29:21And...
29:22Now it would be impossible to happen...
29:23Like...
29:24Was there no way of stopping it coming out?
29:26How was that time?
29:28It was...
29:29Just...
29:31Humiliating...
29:32So painful...
29:33I did not want to leave my house...
29:34I was just...
29:35It was just...
29:37It was just...
29:38You know...
29:39Just trust somebody...
29:40And have them...
29:41Violate me like that...
29:42It was...
29:43It was just...
29:45The most horrible thing...
29:46That you could do to a person...
29:47And...
29:48And...
29:49There was nothing that I could do about it...
29:51And...
29:52Yeah...
29:53That's something that will...
29:54Haunt me the rest of my life...
29:55And...
29:56If that happened today...
29:58It would be illegal...
29:59Um...
30:00So...
30:01I mean...
30:02I...
30:03Like...
30:04Another thing I went through...
30:05That now...
30:06It would be illegal for people today...
30:07So I think that...
30:08Again...
30:09Is...
30:08The good part...
30:09That other girls...
30:10Don't have to go through that...
30:11But...
30:12Um...
30:13Yeah...
30:13That was...
30:14Um...
30:15I mean...
30:16When you frame it...
30:17That this was a young girl...
30:18Who didn't...
30:18Who...
30:19Was coerced to do this...
30:20And then was publicly humiliated...
30:21And then flogged for it...
30:23But afterwards...
30:24It...
30:25Like...
30:26It...
30:27It really wasn't...
30:28Really wasn't fair...
30:28I'm not gonna mention the name...
30:29Of the guy...
30:30Because...
30:31You cleverly...
30:32Didn't do that in the doc...
30:33Have you ever spoken to that ex again?
30:35No...
30:36Would you ever have a conversation with him?
30:38No...
30:39Um...
30:40Have you...
30:41Thought about...
30:42When your kids find out...
30:43About the sex...
30:43And how you'll approach it with them?
30:45Uh...
30:46That's gonna be a really...
30:48Just...
30:49Painful...
30:50Subject to talk about...
30:51Like I don't even know...
30:53Like I haven't even thought about...
30:55What I'm gonna say...
30:56Since they're only...
30:57Two years old right now...
30:58Um...
30:59But...
31:02Hopefully by talking...
31:03To them...
31:04They'll...
31:05Never have something like that...
31:06Happen to them...
31:07Or they'll be taken advantage of...
31:08So it's just...
31:10Horrible...
31:11And now...
31:12Just being...
31:13Being alone again...
31:14Just thinking about that...
31:15Just makes me even sadder...
31:16For me...
31:17That I had to go through...
31:18All that...
31:19And so publicly...
31:20And have people vilify...
31:21Me for it...
31:22When I was just a 19 year old...
31:23Kid basically...
31:24Yeah...
31:25The media...
31:26Were just...
31:27Brutal...
31:28For...
31:28The news media...
31:29Particularly...
31:30The expert in the documentary...
31:31Said...
31:32You're targeted...
31:33Because of your...
31:33Intelligence...
31:34To play the game...
31:35Effectively...
31:36We kind of played...
31:37The game together...
31:38Similar to Princess Diana...
31:39You were...
31:38Worked with the press...
31:39At times...
31:40Welcomed them into your life...
31:41Posed for the paparazzi...
31:42Do you think...
31:43You paid...
31:44The price for that...
31:45By welcoming the media?
31:46I didn't think...
31:47That was fair at all...
31:48I was always...
31:49Respectful...
31:50And kind...
31:51And I knew that...
31:52People were just trying...
31:53To do their job...
31:54So I would...
31:55Always be nice to everyone...
31:57I never...
31:58Was one of those celebrities...
31:59That would...
32:00You know...
32:01Tell them off...
32:02Or...
32:03Or go off on them...
32:04Like I've seen...
32:03And some people do...
32:04So I just thought...
32:05It was...
32:06Really unfair...
32:07The way that they did that...
32:08I'm gonna read some of the headlines...
32:09From the documentary...
32:10And just ask you like...
32:12How...
32:13Did they make you feel...
32:14Back then...
32:15Like...
32:16The idea that...
32:17That this was a description...
32:18Of a young woman...
32:19In her early twenties...
32:20Paris Hilton...
32:21What's the point?
32:22Famous for nothing...
32:23Bimbo...
32:23No Brains...
32:24All Fame...
32:25A new low...
32:26For celebrity culture...
32:27Like...
32:28Human...
32:29Just like the rest of us...
32:30How...
32:31Did that feel at the time?
32:32It was...
32:33Really hurt...
32:33You know...
32:34I was just a young girl...
32:35Just...
32:36Living my life...
32:37But I had the whole...
32:38World watching...
32:39And judging...
32:40And picking...
32:41Everything apart...
32:42And just...
32:43I felt like...
32:44No matter what I did...
32:45Or what I accomplished...
32:46People...
32:48Just...
32:49Refused to...
32:50I don't know...
32:51Just see...
32:53See me as like...
32:54A human being...
32:55It was just like...
32:56A cartoon character...
32:57Or like...
32:58A punch...
32:58A line...
32:59That they...
33:00Just make fun of...
33:01And...
33:02It just always hurt my feelings...
33:03Because I've always...
33:03Been such a sensitive person...
33:04As well...
33:05And then...
33:06On top of it...
33:07When...
33:08Having...
33:08A PhD...
33:09We...
33:10Experience...
33:11Emotions...
33:12Like...
33:1310 times more...
33:13Than a...
33:14Neurotypical person...
33:15And...
33:16Especially...
33:17There's...
33:18Something called...
33:19RSD...
33:20Which is...
33:21Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria...
33:22Which...
33:2399...
33:23Of...
33:24People...
33:25With ADHD...
33:26Experience...
33:27So...
33:28To have...
33:28Things like...
33:29Said like...
33:30That...
33:31Is...
33:32Just...
33:33Physically painful...
33:34Like...
33:35It's like...
33:36Being stabbed in the heart...
33:37Like...
33:38It's just...
33:38I would cry...
33:39So much...
33:40All the time...
33:41Just like...
33:42Constantly hearing...
33:43Things and...
33:43People...
33:44Making up lies...
33:45And stories...
33:46It was just...
33:47A nightmare...
33:48What would you say...
33:48To the people...
33:49Who wrote those headlines...
33:50Now?
33:51Say...
33:52Look at me now...
33:53Money...
33:54I've always loved...
33:55Proving people wrong...
33:56So many...
33:57I've...
33:58So much of my career...
33:59I've been underestimated...
34:00And misunderstood...
34:01So now...
34:02Today...
34:03To see...
34:04My life...
34:05And everything...
34:06That I've accomplished...
34:07And...
34:08My beautiful...
34:08Family...
34:09And...
34:10Just everything...
34:11That I've done...
34:12And now...
34:13I've had...
34:13So many people...
34:14Come up and...
34:15Apologize to me...
34:16So many reporters...
34:17Just...
34:18People on the street...
34:19Have said that...
34:20If I'm doing an interview...
34:21Just so many people...
34:22Have said...
34:23I'm so sorry...
34:23For the way that...
34:24Myself and others...
34:25Treated you...
34:26Because you did not...
34:27Deserve that...
34:28So it feels...
34:28It's very healing...
34:29To hear that from people...
34:30To realize...
34:31That they know it was wrong...
34:32What advice...
34:33Would you give...
34:34To the...
34:35To the young girl...
34:36Who's going through that now...
34:38My advice would be...
34:41That...
34:43You shouldn't listen...
34:44To people like that...
34:45That...
34:46What matters most...
34:47Is what you think...
34:48Of yourself...
34:49So don't let that...
34:50Outside noise...
34:51Affect how you feel...
34:52About yourself...
34:53Because...
34:54A...
34:55A lot of people...
34:56Can be mean...
34:57Especially...
34:58You know...
34:59Now with the internet...
35:00And you know...
35:01People are able to hide...
35:02Behind a computer...
35:03And...
35:04It's a different...
35:05Form of meanness now...
35:06It's different...
35:07I feel like the media...
35:08It wasn't like that...
35:08But then there's like...
35:09The internet trolls...
35:10Who are just like...
35:11These people living in like...
35:12That are...
35:13In a parent's basement...
35:14Like miserable...
35:15With no life...
35:16And like...
35:17Just sit on the computer...
35:18All day...
35:19Just write...
35:18And like...
35:19Getting rude things...
35:20To people...
35:21Like I just would tell them...
35:22Like I would feel bad...
35:23For this...
35:23These people...
35:24That they...
35:25Are that miserable...
35:26That they need to go...
35:27And try to...
35:28Tear you down...
35:29And don't let it affect you...
35:30In the movie...
35:31I found it really interesting...
35:32You talk...
35:33Talking about your ADHD...
35:34And thank you...
35:35I think...
35:36Like I believe...
35:37With mental health challenges...
35:38It's so important...
35:38You talk about them...
35:39And normalize them...
35:40And destigmatize them...
35:41And make people feel less alone...
35:42And you're...
35:43That you've been a leading...
35:44Person with ADHD...
35:45To do that...
35:46And the quote...
35:47That really hit me...
35:48From the documentary...
35:48Was...
35:49I have all the success...
35:50But I wish I could be...
35:51As happy as someone...
35:52Without the ADHD...
35:53Demon voice...
35:54Who had had all these things...
35:56Still have...
35:57Would have had all these things...
35:58So...
35:59Do you still feel like that?
36:01It's...
36:02It's gotten...
36:03Much better...
36:04Like now that I've...
36:05Really...
36:06Studied...
36:07And researched...
36:08And know so much...
36:09About my ADHD...
36:10But...
36:11Growing up...
36:12No one was talking about it...
36:13Especially with...
36:14Young girls...
36:15So...
36:16I had no idea...
36:17Like...
36:18Being...
36:18Being in school...
36:19And constantly...
36:20Getting in trouble...
36:21All the time...
36:22Like not able to focus...
36:23Like...
36:24Always in detention...
36:25Always failing...
36:26Like all the tests...
36:27Because I couldn't remember anything...
36:28Or like losing my homework...
36:29Just like so many things would happen...
36:30And...
36:31You know...
36:32People with ADHD...
36:33Would just be called like...
36:34Bad kids...
36:35And I think that's...
36:36You know...
36:37One of the reasons...
36:38I got sent away to the...
36:38These schools...
36:39Is because of it...
36:40Because I just...
36:41Was not able to...
36:42Focus in school...
36:43Or anything...
36:43No matter...
36:44How hard I tried...
36:45Um...
36:46And then...
36:47Now...
36:48Knowing...
36:49That...
36:50The voices...
36:51From that...
36:52That are negative...
36:53Self...
36:53Love talk...
36:54Are not true...
36:55Like that...
36:56Is always a good thing...
36:57So anytime I do...
36:58Have that happening...
36:59I'll just...
37:00Immediately say...
37:01That's not you...
37:02That's just your ADHD...
37:03So that's how you manage...
37:03That's really...
37:04I really love...
37:05Sharing the solutions...
37:06That's how you...
37:07I talked to...
37:08I mean...
37:08An amazing doctor...
37:09Named Dr. Hallowell...
37:10Who is like...
37:11One of the leading...
37:12ADHD psychiatrists...
37:13And...
37:14He has it as well...
37:15And he calls it...
37:16The demon...
37:18It's called...
37:19DMN...
37:20Which is like...
37:21The default mode network...
37:22With the real...
37:23Termporters...
37:24In the documentary...
37:25You call it the demon voice...
37:26I found it fascinating...
37:27The idea that all of these...
37:28Mean things...
37:29Are being said...
37:30About you and the press...
37:31But it's worse...
37:32In your head...
37:33That you were saying...
37:34Worse things about yourself...
37:35Yeah...
37:36So...
37:37That was just...
37:38Painful...
37:38And I think...
37:39Through doing this documentary...
37:40Like...
37:41I feel like...
37:42I never even gave myself...
37:43The credit for...
37:43Like...
37:44How much I survived...
37:45Even going through that...
37:46Like...
37:47After everything I had already...
37:48Went through in these schools...
37:49Then...
37:48You know...
37:49Coming out...
37:50Into Hollywood...
37:51And then having...
37:52The media say...
37:53All these crazy...
37:53Things...
37:54Like...
37:55It was just...
37:56It was...
37:57It was just so traumatic...
37:58Back then...
37:59So I'm so...
38:00Like...
38:01Grateful...
38:02Now...
38:03To have...
38:03Healed...
38:04From that...
38:05And now...
38:06I'm able to tell my story to others...
38:07Because I know there's so many...
38:08Other...
38:08You know...
38:09Kids...
38:10Who have ADHD...
38:11Who I'm sure...
38:12Are going through the same thing right now...
38:13And...
38:14Just to...
38:15Tell them and let them know that...
38:16This is something that we all...
38:18To experience...
38:19And that those things are not true...
38:20And...
38:21To be strong...
38:22And to...
38:23To lean in on it...
38:24As your superpower...
38:25Because I wouldn't be...
38:26The woman I am today...
38:27Without it as well...
38:28I wouldn't be the entrepreneur I am...
38:30I wouldn't be the creative I am...
38:31I wouldn't have these...
38:32So many different businesses...
38:33Without the ADHD...
38:35So I want...
38:36To inspire others that...
38:38That this can be a superpower...
38:40And you can just lean in...
38:41To what you love...
38:42They...
38:43Say that we can't focus...
38:44But...
38:45That's not true...
38:46We can hyper-focus...
38:47Like no other...
38:48We just can't focus on things...
38:50That are boring...
38:51But the things that light us up...
38:52We...
38:53We'll focus...
38:54Like a superhero...
38:55That's really interesting...
38:56It's just that all of our brains...
38:57Have worked different...
38:58And so...
38:59The fact you're talking about it...
39:00And normalizing this...
39:01And showing it's actually a positive...
39:03Not a negative...
39:04Is a great example...
39:05For society...
39:06So thank you...
39:07I've had so many...
39:08Families...
39:09Kids...
39:10People come up to me...
39:11And say thank you so much...
39:12For writing your song...
39:13With ADHD...
39:14Like my child...
39:15Used to be so ashamed of it...
39:16But now...
39:17That's their...
39:18Their anthem...
39:19And they're singing it...
39:20Every morning...
39:21And telling everyone...
39:22ADHD is my superpower...
39:23So I love how I'm able...
39:24To reframe it...
39:25Especially for these young kids...
39:26Growing up with it...
39:27Because I know that...
39:28A lot of them are struggling...
39:29And back in the noughties...
39:30You felt...
39:31You couldn't...
39:32Admit...
39:33Having any...
39:34Any weaknesses...
39:35And now it's different...
39:36Opening up with your vulnerabilities...
39:38Your superpower...
39:39Yes...
39:40For sure...
39:41Growing up...
39:42In the 2000s...
39:43Like no one was even...
39:43Saying the word...
39:44Mental health...
39:45Like if you heard that...
39:46They'd be like...
39:47What?
39:48Like mental hospital?
39:49Like they wouldn't...
39:48Understand that...
39:49I'm a big believer...
39:50And I've done a lot of work...
39:51In the mental health space...
39:52That like...
39:53Every...
39:53Everybody...
39:54Has got somebody in the family...
39:55Who's going through something...
39:56Scratch beneath the surface...
39:57I've got...
39:58People...
39:58PTSD...
39:59ADHD...
40:00To...
40:01Clinical depression...
40:02And it...
40:03It...
40:04People don't talk about it...
40:05And we should encourage it...
40:06And make people feel less alone...
40:07So thank you for all...
40:08Of your work...
40:09Thank you...
40:10I think it's amazing...
40:11Seeing this new generation...
40:12And how open they are...
40:13Just how...
40:14You know...
40:15We were all taught like...
40:16If anything's wrong...
40:17Don't talk about it...
40:18Just like...
40:19Everything's fine...
40:20But when you do talk about things...
40:21It just shows like...
40:22The...
40:23The power of vulnerability...
40:24And telling your truth...
40:25And just like...
40:26Letting it out...
40:27And it just like...
40:28Helps you so much...
40:29And then it makes others...
40:30Feel...
40:31Safe to open up as well...
40:32And then it starts...
40:33Like this whole domino effect...
40:34Where so many people...
40:35Could heal...
40:36Around the world...
40:37So you are just like...
40:38If that's the relatable things...
40:39Or what matter...
40:40So all of my gay friends...
40:42Are totally jealous...
40:43I'm here with you...
40:44At your house...
40:45And...
40:46Until I saw...
40:47This documentary...
40:48I didn't...
40:48Really realise...
40:49Why you were a gay icon...
40:50And...
40:51I had tears...
40:52Streaming down my...
40:53Face...
40:54When you said...
40:55They are the ones...
40:56Who gave me the greatest gift...
40:57Show me...
40:58What it truly means...
40:59To live my truth for so long...
41:00I was weighed down...
41:01By the shame...
41:02Over what I went through...
41:03In the troubled teen industry...
41:04I've never heard...
41:05A straight person...
41:06Understand...
41:07The shame...
41:08That gay people go through...
41:09Living in a world...
41:10Feeling othered...
41:11And not feeling...
41:12Welcome...
41:13And the fact...
41:14That you could empathise...
41:15With that...
41:16With what you'd gone through...
41:17I found that really...
41:18Really powerful...
41:19So...
41:20Thank you...
41:21When...
41:22When did you realise...
41:23Your similarities...
41:23With the gay community...
41:24Just...
41:25Especially...
41:26Getting out of those schools...
41:28And then...
41:29David LaChapelle...
41:30And I...
41:31We've been very close friends...
41:32Forever...
41:33And I was one of his...
41:33Muses...
41:34And he would take me...
41:35To all the gay clubs...
41:36So I was hanging out...
41:37Like him...
41:38And Amanda Lepore...
41:38And like Patricia Field...
41:39And like...
41:40That whole club scene...
41:41And just...
41:42Feeling so...
41:43Like...
41:44Much love...
41:45So accepted...
41:46Just seeing...
41:47These people...
41:48Who just like...
41:48Live their life out loud...
41:49Just...
41:50Beautiful...
41:51Inside and out...
41:52And...
41:53Just learned so much...
41:55From that...
41:56Just an incredible community...
41:57In so many ways...
41:58Pride is my favorite time...
41:59Of the year...
42:00It's...
42:01So much fun...
42:02Just being on stage...
42:03Performing...
42:04Going to all the gay clubs...
42:05And feeling the energy...
42:07The love in the room...
42:08It's like...
42:09Nothing...
42:10I can even describe...
42:11It's just so...
42:12Much fun...
42:13Well thank...
42:14Thank you for your support...
42:15The way you vocalized...
42:16That connection to the community...
42:17Was so...
42:18Breathtaking...
42:19Like...
42:20How have you...
42:21Dealt with that...
42:22Shame...
42:23That you talked about...
42:23I've just felt...
42:24That...
42:25A lot of the things...
42:26That have happened in my life...
42:27Are because...
42:28Other people hurt me...
42:29And something...
42:30Another message in this film...
42:31That I wanna...
42:33Have others know...
42:34Is that...
42:35The shame...
42:36Should not be on us...
42:37It should be on...
42:38The people who hurt us...
42:40And...
42:41I was actually speaking...
42:42With one of the...
42:43Survivors...
42:44Who...
42:45Went to Provo Canyon School...
42:46With me...
42:47And she said that...
42:48To me...
42:48When we were doing...
42:49My first documentary...
42:50And that's something...
42:51That has stuck with me...
42:52Ever since...
42:53And it's so true...
42:53I feel like...
42:54So many of the times...
42:55So many of us...
42:56Have held on to shame...
42:57Which...
42:58Never should have...
42:58Been on us...
42:59It should have always been...
43:00On that person...
43:01Who hurt us...
43:02So I think that's such a...
43:03Powerful message...
43:04For people to know...
43:05In their hearts...
43:06Because I feel like...
43:07That would...
43:08Take away a lot of pain...
43:09From people...
43:10If they knew that...
43:11Motherhood...
43:12They say...
43:13Becoming a parent...
43:13Will humble you...
43:14And make you just like us...
43:15What's...
43:16One way...
43:17Your kids have humbled you...
43:18With me recently...
43:19Yeah...
43:20They are just...
43:21My...
43:22Everything...
43:23My...
43:23In the world...
43:24And...
43:25Every day with them...
43:26Just feels like...
43:27A dream come true...
43:28I've...
43:29Always wanted to be a mom...
43:30And...
43:31Now to have these two...
43:32Little angels...
43:33Who are just...
43:34The cutest little...
43:35Fun...
43:36Like...
43:37Sweet...
43:38Smart...
43:39Um...
43:40They're just...
43:41Everything to me...
43:42I'm so...
43:43So lucky...
43:43That I'm their mom...
43:44When was your...
43:45Latest...
43:46Breakdown in tears...
43:47My...
43:48Mommy...
43:49Meltdown...
43:50Moment...
43:51They're such good kids...
43:52I know...
43:53I've never had like...
43:53A meltdown...
43:54Moment...
43:55They're really well behaved...
43:56They're so well behaved...
43:57They're so...
43:58Like...
43:59Just...
44:00Smart...
44:01They're so kind...
44:02They're so gentle...
44:03They're on a...
44:03Amazing sleep schedule...
44:04Like...
44:05They're just like...
44:06The perfect kids...
44:07So...
44:08When they become...
44:08Teenagers...
44:09If they turn out to be wild...
44:10How are you gonna deal with this?
44:11I...
44:12I think about...
44:13That a lot...
44:14That's...
44:15That scares me...
44:16Um...
44:17You're not gonna send them to...
44:18At school...
44:19We know that...
44:20Definitely not...
44:21Um...
44:22That's why...
44:23Even...
44:23Even with this house...
44:24Like...
44:25I wanna like...
44:26Build like...
44:27This world...
44:28Where they...
44:29Never wanna sneak out...
44:28Cause they'll just...
44:29Always wanna invite...
44:30All their friends here...
44:31And this will be like...
44:32The house...
44:33Everyone...
44:34Like...
44:33Is at...
44:34Like...
44:35Movie nights...
44:36And going in the pool...
44:37And the water slide...
44:38And just like...
44:38Having so much fun...
44:39Where like...
44:40I feel like...
44:41They'll never wanna leave...
44:42And if they try to sneak out...
44:43We have...
44:44The most advanced...
44:45Security system...
44:46Security guards...
44:47Cam...
44:48Cameras...
44:49Lasers...
44:50Everything...
44:51So...
44:52There will be no sneaking out...
44:53On my watch...
44:54So you're creating...
44:55You're creating...
44:56A safe environment...
44:57Very safe environment...
44:58So they don't want to leave...
45:00And if they did...
45:01They couldn't anyway...
45:02Um...
45:03What...
45:03What's something...
45:04Your mum and dad...
45:05Have taught you...
45:06About...
45:07Life and parenting...
45:08That you wanna pass on...
45:08Your kids...
45:09Or...
45:10Is there anything...
45:11You wanna do differently...
45:12I love that...
45:13My mum and dad...
45:14Just always made...
45:15Every...
45:16Holiday...
45:17Especially...
45:18So...
45:18So...
45:19Special...
45:20Just like...
45:21My mum is like...
45:22The queen of Christmas...
45:23So with all...
45:23All the decorating...
45:24Like...
45:25All of that...
45:26I learned from her...
45:27And just making...
45:28All those family moments...
45:28Just like...
45:29Unforgettable...
45:30And like...
45:31Just all of the memories...
45:32And family traditions...
45:33I learned from my parents...
45:34I'm now passing on...
45:35To my children...
45:36And...
45:38Just how important...
45:39Family is...
45:40And being close with each other...
45:41And...
45:43Yeah...
45:44Just like...
45:45The holidays are so special...
45:46And I love that...
45:47My mum really...
45:48And...
45:49Instill that into me...
45:50And...
45:51How is Cathy...
45:52As a grandma...
45:53Is she hands on...
45:54Or...
45:55Does she spoil them rotten...
45:56Don't call her grandma...
45:57Or...
45:58She's called Kiki...
46:00And...
46:01She...
46:02She is...
46:03The cutest...
46:04And the best...
46:05And the kids...
46:06Love when she comes over...
46:07They love going to her house...
46:08She has like...
46:09A whole...
46:10Like...
46:11Children's nursery...
46:12Playroom...
46:13At the house...
46:14That has...
46:15All the coolest toys...
46:16And everything...
46:17So they're always...
46:17Going over there...
46:18And playing with her...
46:19And she's very childlike...
46:20In so many ways as well...
46:21So she's...
46:22She's just so...
46:23Sweet with them...
46:24And...
46:25She's obsessed...
46:26She...
46:27Especially with...
46:27London...
46:28She's like...
46:29London is like...
46:30My twin...
46:31Because if you look at...
46:32Their baby photos...
46:33They look so similar...
46:32Really?
46:33That's so cute...
46:34But she's an amazing...
46:35Yeah...
46:36She's an amazing grandma...
46:37You have...
46:3820 boy embryos...
46:39On ice...
46:40I read...
46:41After trying for a girl...
46:42How many times...
46:43Will you keep them...
46:44On ice?
46:45Yeah...
46:46Because you never know...
46:47So you...
46:48You consider more kids?
46:49I...
46:50I love having two...
46:51But you never know...
46:52Because they're getting so big...
46:53So I...
46:54I love babies so much...
46:55So...
46:57Maybe there'll be...
46:58Another brother one day...
46:59We'll see what happens...
47:00Or if someone...
47:01In the family needs one...
47:02You have...
47:03Lots of...
47:04Boys...
47:05We talked about this...
47:06Earlier about how...
47:07Trolls and social...
47:07Media are difficult...
47:08And there's so much...
47:09Mum shaming on social...
47:10Like critiquing...
47:11Like a baby...
47:12Physicality...
47:13So appalling...
47:14How do you handle...
47:15Things like that?
47:16What does it bring out on you?
47:17I'm...
47:18Like a protective...
47:19Mama bear...
47:20So...
47:21I get very protective...
47:22And...
47:23You know...
47:24Sometimes there is...
47:25You know...
47:26People online...
47:27Who...
47:27Don't want to be...
47:28Mean and negative...
47:29And I just think...
47:30It's so wrong...
47:31To talk about a baby...
47:32In a bad way...
47:33Or...
47:34Or...
47:35Just like a cruel way...
47:36So I...
47:37I'm always very protective of it...
47:39But...
47:40There's been so many moms...
47:41And other...
47:42Others...
47:43Who have been so supportive...
47:44And so amazing...
47:45And...
47:46I love being able to...
47:47To share my life with them...
47:48And...
47:49It's always nice to hear...
47:50From the other moms...
47:51Because...
47:52Moms are superheroes...
47:54And we can do it all...
47:55Just like us...
47:56There's a level...
47:57And...
47:58Like...
47:59No matter if you've got...
48:00Millions of dollars...
48:01Like...
48:02You still...
48:02Have to go through...
48:03The same struggles...
48:04As other parents...
48:05How do you...
48:06And Carter...
48:07Think about...
48:08Balancing privacy...
48:09With sharing family moments...
48:10Like...
48:11Do you ever have any...
48:12Tension about...
48:12I feel like...
48:13I...
48:14Share so much...
48:15Of my life...
48:16Um...
48:17And I love my fans...
48:19And I know that they...
48:20Love seeing...
48:21My family...
48:22So I love to show them...
48:23Certain moments...
48:24Or not like...
48:25Every single day...
48:26But...
48:27All like...
48:28The...
48:29Special fun moments...
48:30That we do together...
48:31It's always fun to share them...
48:32Like...
48:33Phoenix...
48:34Just like...
48:35Always is saying...
48:36The cutest things...
48:37And...
48:37Um...
48:38I don't know...
48:39What was the funny thing...
48:40He said lately?
48:41He...
48:42Just everything...
48:43Like...
48:44He just like...
48:45He says...
48:46All of my catchphrases...
48:47Like...
48:47That's hot...
48:48Iconic...
48:49Loves it...
48:50Sliving...
48:51Sliving says...
48:52He says...
48:53Sana-sa...
48:54He loves singing that song...
48:55London just learned it...
48:56So she's now saying it...
48:57Iconic...
48:58Is favorite...
48:59Is London's favorite word...
49:00And it's our dog's name as well...
49:02So...
49:03They're just so cute...
49:04I can't...
49:05I'm like...
49:06Obsessed...
49:07I can't take it...
49:08So the whole gang now...
49:10The crew back in the day...
49:11Are all mums...
49:12Do you and Kim Kardashian ever bond over motherhood these days?
49:15We do...
49:16We talk a lot...
49:17About...
49:18Our kids...
49:19How much fun it is to be a mom...
49:21Um...
49:22I met Dr. Wong through her...
49:24Who was...
49:25Both of our doctors for our babies...
49:27And...
49:28She's such an amazing mom...
49:29Did she give you advice?
49:30She said just like...
49:31She said just like...
49:32Soak up every moment...
49:33Because it...
49:34It goes so fast...
49:35And they are just growing up so fast...
49:37How often do you two hang out?
49:39Um...
49:40We're both so busy...
49:41So anytime...
49:42Like during the holidays...
49:43Or if it's like...
49:44An event or something...
49:46But...
49:47I love her so much...
49:48I'm so proud of her...
49:49Carter seems so supportive of you...
49:51How do you...
49:52Have you ever learned together?
49:53We're...
49:54Just...
49:55The best parents...
49:56We...
49:57Have so much...
49:57fun with the kids. Carter is just so sweet and fun and gentle.
50:02And just an amazing dad and they love him so much and we just have the best.
50:07So you agree on all the parenting principles. I think there's not not come up things.
50:12You've disagreed with so far. You sorted that all out beforehand.
50:17How does he really feel about your obsession with pink and your interior design?
50:20Like the pink tennis.
50:23He loves it. He loves anything that will make me happy.
50:26It's like.
50:27It's really incredible.
50:28That is an amazing moment because the next question was how.
50:32How and when did you know Carter was right for you?
50:35I just knew right away.
50:37There was just something special about him. I could just tell like just right when he
50:42looked at me and smiled like I could just look in someone's eyes and see whether.
50:47Like they're a good person or not. And he has such incredible family values. He's.
50:52So kind and patient and loyal and sweet and funny and.
50:57Loving and loving and lifts me up in a way that no one ever has before. And.
51:02He seems to love you for you. Yeah. I just feel like so safe with him or I feel like.
51:06Anything.
51:07Anything is possible.
51:08And.
51:09That's an amazing feeling because it's been so hard.
51:12To.
51:13To trust people with everything that's happened in my life.
51:15And.
51:16You know I met him at a.
51:17Time where.
51:18I just.
51:19It's like I'm not even going to get married. I'm not going to be with anyone.
51:22Like.
51:22I don't need a man.
51:23And.
51:24That's what I was thinking.
51:25And then met him.
51:26So.
51:27They always say like.
51:27Love will find you when you're not looking for it. And I never believed that either.
51:31But.
51:32I guess it's true because it worked with me.
51:34And so.
51:35You've done.
51:36So.
51:37So much.
51:38What.
51:39Unfinished business have you got?
51:40What have you still got to prove?
51:41What's next?
51:42I feel like I've accomplished like everything that I would want.
51:47to in life.
51:48But I'm just going to continue on with everything I'm doing with 1111.
51:52media.
51:53And just all of the different projects I have with that and.
51:57And.
51:58I'm very excited for.
51:59Para V.
52:00My skin care line.
52:01That.
52:02I've developed for the past three years and.
52:04Building new products with that as well.
52:06And.
52:07I'm just continuing on with the music and all my advocacy work.
52:11And.
52:12I'm just continuing to build IP and then.
52:15Getting involved more in real estate.
52:17with my own hotels.
52:18And.
52:19Yeah.
52:20I just continue.
52:21Paris Hilton Hotels.
52:22Rivaling Hilton Hotels.
52:23Um.
52:24The skin care line.
52:25You.
52:26Are aging back.
52:27backwards.
52:28You look.
52:29Amazing.
52:30Like I have a.
52:31LED mask.
52:32Like.
52:32Just.
52:33Just like us.
52:34But you have a whole machine.
52:35I read.
52:36Yeah.
52:37The spa.
52:37It's living spa.
52:38It's living spa.
52:39What.
52:40What works the best for readers.
52:41For anti-aging.
52:42How.
52:42Can we look as amazing as you.
52:43What works the best is Para V.
52:45My skin care line.
52:46Of course.
52:47And then the LED.
52:48Red light.
52:49Is incredible.
52:50Uh.
52:51Cryotherapy.
52:52Um.
52:53Hyperbaric chamber.
52:54Is the number one thing.
52:55Uh.
52:56For longevity.
52:57Which I'm obsessed with.
52:57Um.
52:58I just invested into.
52:59Brian Johnson's company as well.
53:01Uh.
53:02Blueprint.
53:02Which I'm obsessed with.
53:03Um.
53:04So I think.
53:05Yeah.
53:06It's important.
53:07To do.
53:07All of those things.
53:08Try to stay out of the sun.
53:09But.
53:10Yeah.
53:11That.
53:12Red light.
53:12It really does work.
53:13I have like a whole red light bed.
53:14Which.
53:15I'm obsessed with.
53:16And.
53:17And building.
53:18An entire spa downstairs.
53:19Which would be like.
53:20An 8,000 square foot.
53:22Longevity center.
53:23And spa.
53:24So we go from an 8,000 longevity spa.
53:27To testing out just like us.
53:29Because.
53:30That's not quite just like us.
53:32But.
53:32Paris Hilton really is.
53:33It's a quick fire.
53:34Now it's time to find out.
53:35How just like us.
53:36Paris Hilton really is.
53:37It's a quick fire.
53:37Around.
53:38Yeah.
53:39Questions will come fast.
53:40The answers should come faster.
53:41And there's no hiding from.
53:42Your humanity.
53:43Are you ready to prove.
53:44You're just like us.
53:45Yes.
53:46Stars are blind.
53:47Is one of my top five karaoke songs.
53:49But it's really hard to sing.
53:51Are you just like.
53:52Stars.
53:53And have you ever sung.
53:54Karaoke.
53:55Yeah.
53:56I love karaoke.
53:57What are your songs.
53:58Do you sing stars are blind.
53:59Yes.
54:00Of course.
54:01Stars are blind.
54:02And I love.
54:03Betty Davis.
54:02I love you guys.
54:03By Kim Cards.
54:04One of my favorites as well.
54:05So iconic.
54:06Classic.
54:07How much help do you have.
54:08Around the house.
54:09Yeah.
54:10We have like.
54:11The nanny.
54:12The families.
54:13The people who helped take care of the house.
54:14And.
54:15The handyman.
54:17And yeah, all of them.
54:18And I love them so much.
54:20They're like part of the family.
54:21What's the most surprising thing?
54:22Surprisingly normal thing you do every day that no one would ever expect from Paris Hilton.
54:27Most normal thing just being with my kids in the morning.
54:32Eating cereal.
54:34Watching cartoons.
54:36I like Frosted Blake.
54:37I love cooking.
54:38I love making French toast with Frosted Flakes cooked onto it.
54:42It's so good.
54:43That's a good American breakfast.
54:44She is just like us.
54:46How much do you spend?
54:47What happened on a glam in a year, would you estimate?
54:49I don't know.
54:50I've never looked into that.
54:52But I'm sure a lot.
54:53What's one household chore you secretly loved?
54:57What are you doing yourself?
54:58I don't know.
54:59You don't do any?
55:02Organizing.
55:06I like organizing.
55:07I like tidying.
55:08I hate cleaning.
55:09When was the last time you pumped gas?
55:12I used to pump gas when I used to drive everywhere, but I honestly never leave the house now.
55:17Unless I have to, and then I have a driver, and then I'm always just...
55:22I'm just going directly from here to the airport and flying somewhere, so I have not done gas in a long time.
55:27But if I was driving, I would do it.
55:29I don't mind.
55:30You would.
55:30You don't mind.
55:31Okay.
55:31You are just...
55:32Thank you for sharing your incredible journey and the wisdom that you've imparted.
55:37How you've helped people along the way, and I do think how vulnerable you are.
55:42It shows that you really are just like us, so thank you, Paris.
55:45This was so much fun.
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