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00:00Today I'm interviewing one of the most defining figures from the last quarter century of celebrity
00:05history a true icon Paris Hilton and I started our careers around the same
00:10time in the two thousands I wrote about her in the pages of the magazines I've worked for she was the
00:15original influencer as the socialite queen of the nightlife with the famous last name
00:20after a very public betrayal involving a leaked sex tape Paris did something people did
00:25expect she leveraged her notoriety and built a ground-breaking reality show
00:30an entertainment empire that she estimates to be worth one billion dollars today
00:35she's a multi-hyphenate entrepreneur with ventures in music fashion skincare and even
00:40as 30 fragrances and for many people the idea of Paris Hilton still comes
00:45up someone impossibly unrelatable wrapped in luxury and privilege she's the last
00:50person you'd imagine to be just like us but in recent years Paris has evolved beyond
00:55just being a successful businesswoman she's become more vulnerable and opened up to tell her full
01:00story and what was really going on behind the glitter and glamour in doing so she's made
01:05valuable contributions to the world in a 2020 documentary this is Paris she told her how
01:10the following story of being sent off to Utah's Provo Canyon School and became an advocate for
01:15survivors of the troubled teen industry leading to the passing of legislation reform she also
01:20uses her platform to talk about the misogynistic treatment of women in media and her charity
01:25work including launching funds for wildlife relief and is a vocal advocate for animals
01:30for education and social welfare and for the neurodivergent and the LGBTQ communities
01:35So although Paris may live the high life and may or may not have an entire...
01:40...dedicated to her 10,000 pairs of sunglasses, she has challenges and setbacks that...
01:45...to reveal, she may just be just like us. Today we'll dive deep into her life and...
01:50...documentary Infinite Icon, a visual memoir and assess how just like us...
01:55...this is Paris Hilton.
02:00So do you have a room for 10,000 sunglasses?
02:04I have lots of sunglasses.
02:05And that was at my other house that I just moved into. So this house...
02:10...has my glam room and it has my 10,000 sunglasses in it, yeah.
02:14So I like to start...
02:15...at my interviews with a little ritual about something personal about the person...
02:19...and I was so dumb.
02:20Confounded that you have 30 perfumes. I asked your team to send me some.
02:25...so that we could test them. So tell me about this one.
02:28This is my 30th fragrance.
02:30And it's called Iconic. And it is so beautiful. It has like...
02:34It really...
02:35...the rose tint. I love rose.
02:37Yes.
02:38It's like peony, raspberry...
02:40...rose. Those are some of the notes. And it's just like...
02:45...the house is just like very...
02:47...light, summery.
02:49...gorgeous.
02:50And I feel like men and women could both wear it.
02:53I would... I wear rose tint tones.
02:55And sometimes.
02:56I love it.
02:57What...
02:58If you've got 30 perfumes, how do you decide what...
03:00...to wear in the morning?
03:02I...
03:03...just kind of like what mood I'm in.
03:05I love that I have one literally for like every day of the month because there's 30.
03:08And do you only wear your own?
03:09Yeah.
03:10Yes.
03:11I've not worn another person's perfume since I was a little girl.
03:14But it's such a...
03:15...because when I was a little girl I would always go into my mom's boudoir and she collects perfumes.
03:20And my sister and I would be playing with all of them.
03:22And I was like, Mom, one day I'm going to have my own perfume.
03:25So...
03:25So now to have just released my 30th is just another dream come true.
03:28Well, it's not just like us to have...
03:30...but they are quite reasonable, right?
03:32What a surprise point.
03:33Yes.
03:34These are at Ulta Beauty.
03:35And for the size, this one's 80.
03:38So we're here in your craft room.
03:40And this helps your ADHD, right?
03:42It does.
03:43This is like...
03:44If you...
03:45If you looked inside my mind, what it looks like.
03:47I feel like the camera can't see at all because like...
03:50...the top with the rainbow and the butterflies, the clouds.
03:53Like...
03:54It feels like a dream.
03:55And when I walk in here with the kids, like we have so much fun doing art and just hanging out and...
04:00It's also my office and I love being able to look out the window and see...
04:05...like my 11-11 office and the waterfall and the just beautiful backyard.
04:10And all of it.
04:11It just...
04:12It's your safe space.
04:13Yeah.
04:14It just literally looks...
04:15Like when I was little, I would make like mood boards and like manifest what I wanted.
04:20In life, I really...
04:21Like this is what it was.
04:22And crafting gives you that...
04:23Yeah.
04:24That safe space.
04:25I love it.
04:26Well, you're...
04:27We're here in your home.
04:28It's absolutely beautiful.
04:29It's Beverly Hills.
04:30It is not quite just like us, but it is very unapologetically you.
04:35Are there any elements of just like us around the house?
04:38Are there like piles of unfolded lawns?
04:40Are there laundry?
04:41Are there dishes fill in the sink?
04:42I feel like it's just like...
04:45Any other family's house with kids.
04:47You know, there's toys everywhere.
04:49There's...
04:50Of course, like the laundry room as a laundry.
04:52Um, but then also we have like a water slide and...
04:55Like the pink tennis court and all the other fun things.
04:59It's like...
05:00The ultimate fun house.
05:01Like I feel like this is like the house I dreamed of since I was a little girl.
05:05So it's fabulous, but it's relatable and family just like everybody else.
05:09Just like regular folks.
05:10And I think that's what your new documentary really shows as well.
05:14It's an...
05:15It's an exploration into the human side of you, just like our side of you.
05:19Because it shows your...
05:20Life as a music icon and it marries that with the vulnerability of what...
05:25You've gone through.
05:26Behind the stardust and the glitter, it says I am...
05:30You're human.
05:31Like what do you want people to take away from the documentary?
05:34I feel that...
05:35This is really like a third part of a trilogy.
05:38Like the first time I really opened up...
05:40And, you know, showed people who I was, was through my first documentary.
05:44This is Paris.
05:45And then going even deeper through my memoir.
05:48And now in this part...
05:50With Infinite Icon, it's like my whole life through the lens of music.
05:55And just going back, you know, from the beginning, since I was a...
06:00Little Girl and all these dreams that I had.
06:02But then just going into so much more.
06:05Because I feel like within these past five years, I've just been on this whole journey.
06:10Of self-discovery and just learning so much and healing so much.
06:15And just so much has happened.
06:16So I just wanted to show that story and...
06:20I feel like it's also a story that others can relate to as well.
06:22I think we're going to talk through lots of those different points.
06:25On there, but to start with the music, I loved seeing you on the stage and so happy.
06:30And it being such a fulfilling journey.
06:32How does it feel to be up there when you're performing?
06:35When I'm on stage, it feels like the most incredible, magical feeling.
06:40In the world, just seeing everyone in the audience so happy and...
06:45excited and screaming and crying and singing along and dancing and just the...
06:50energy and love in the room is like another level.
06:53And when I'm up there, I just feel like...
06:55this was what I was born to do.
06:56It's funny because I've followed your career and worked with...
07:00you and covered your career for so long.
07:03And I never realized that music...
07:05was the pure love.
07:07And so, like, it made me wonder watching...
07:10the documentary.
07:11Do you feel that becoming famous before you explore music...
07:15hampered your ability to become a pop star quicker?
07:18Yeah, I do.
07:19I think that...
07:20just, you know, from doing The Simple Life, like a reality show...
07:23I think anyone who does reality...
07:25and then if they go into music...
07:27you're just not going to be taken seriously.
07:29And...
07:30especially during the early 2000s...
07:32when just the media...
07:34was...
07:35just extremely cruel to young women in the industry.
07:38So...
07:40it was always...
07:41really hurtful to me because it was just such a dream of mine,
07:44you know.
07:45ever since I could remember what I'd love to do...
07:47since I was literally, like, three years old.
07:49Like...
07:50I just...
07:51always wanted to be a pop star...
07:52but...
07:53I just felt that...
07:54my music didn't...
07:55didn't get the chance that it deserved...
07:56because...
07:57the media was controlling everything back then...
07:59and...
08:00now today, with social media, I'm actually able to hear what...
08:03the fans and people really think.
08:05so...
08:06And you can control your own narrative...
08:07and have your own voice.
08:08Yes, exactly.
08:09Well, I was a part of that media...
08:10you were at the time...
08:11I don't think I was mean to you...
08:12but I'd like to apologise...
08:13and...
08:14but...
08:15have you got any questions...
08:15for me about, like, at that time...
08:17covering the media and how unfair it was?
08:19Like...
08:20for you, I'm sure, just being in...
08:22the newsroom...
08:23Yeah.
08:24like...
08:25were you ever...
08:25pressured for them...
08:26to try...
08:27to make you...
08:28do or say things that you felt...
08:29like...
08:30uncomfortable asking?
08:31like...
08:32you felt like it was...
08:33going too far sometimes?
08:34I think there were times when there were...
08:35stories...
08:36where...
08:37I look back...
08:38and I'm like...
08:39why...
08:40did...
08:41they take that...
08:42direction...
08:43and it questions...
08:44I think...
08:45I believe media reflects society...
08:47and society was meaner back then...
08:49and that's...
08:50what people wanted...
08:51now people don't...
08:52want that...
08:53there's different meaner elements...
08:54on social media...
08:55but I think it's an...
08:56interesting question...
08:57or I think...
08:58there are certainly things...
08:59I regret being involved in.
09:00back at the time...
09:01and...
09:02I think the media has done better...
09:03in recent years...
09:04and I hope you find that...
09:05as well...
09:06definitely...
09:07I know that...
09:08so many of the things...
09:09you know...
09:10the way that...
09:10myself and other girls...
09:11were treated back then...
09:12would not happen today...
09:13it would not be accepted...
09:14so at least it's...
09:15changed for other people...
09:16so I think that's...
09:17like the silver lining...
09:18you had to go for...
09:19a lot of pain...
09:20to get there...
09:21a big theme from the documentary...
09:22of music saving your life...
09:23tell me...
09:24how that worked for you...
09:25just...
09:27you know...
09:28just from going through...
09:29so many traumatic experiences...
09:30as a teenager...
09:32and...
09:33you know...
09:34it was just so...
09:35painful...
09:36and traumatizing...
09:37and...
09:38when I got out...
09:39of those boarding schools...
09:40I just remember...
09:41like when I would...
09:42go out at night...
09:43it was like...
09:44the one thing...
09:45that I would just...
09:45forget about...
09:46all the pain...
09:47and just like...
09:48lose myself in the music...
09:49and have so much fun...
09:50and I just...
09:50felt...
09:51like this whole community...
09:52or I just felt...
09:53so accepted...
09:54and...
09:55no one was...
09:56judgmental...
09:55it was just...
09:56all about having...
09:57an incredible time...
09:58and...
09:59just...
10:00I don't know...
10:01I just...
10:02I love music...
10:03I love to dance...
10:04I love the lights...
10:05I love...
10:06the people...
10:05the escapism...
10:06yeah...
10:07you've been through...
10:08so much...
10:09and you touched...
10:10on some of it there...
10:10what has been...
10:11the hardest thing...
10:12to recover from...
10:13you've dealt with...
10:14sexual abuse...
10:15as a kid...
10:15so...
10:16the sex tape...
10:17the media treatment...
10:18what was the...
10:19what's...
10:20been the hardest...
10:20thing to heal from...
10:21do you think?
10:22hmm...
10:23all of it...
10:24you know...
10:25I think...
10:25these are things...
10:26that will...
10:27definitely affect me...
10:28for the rest of my life...
10:29but...
10:30especially...
10:30being...
10:31in these schools...
10:32which...
10:33my parents were told...
10:34it was called...
10:35a...
10:35emotional growth...
10:36boarding schools...
10:37and...
10:38they were sold...
10:39a lie...
10:40these places...
10:41are so many...
10:40manipulative...
10:41and...
10:42their marketing tactics...
10:43everything...
10:44they had brochures...
10:45where kids were...
10:45smiling...
10:46and...
10:47there was like...
10:48rainbows...
10:49and people were...
10:50riding horses...
10:51and everyone...
10:52looked so happy...
10:53in that situation...
10:54and...
10:55it was terrifying...
10:56just to be around...
10:57these adults...
10:58who...
10:58were literally...
10:59abusing...
11:00all of us...
11:01in so many ways...
11:02and...
11:03it's just...
11:04it took...
11:05many years...
11:06for me...
11:07to even talk about it...
11:08it was so...
11:08traumatizing...
11:09where it took me...
11:10you know...
11:1120 years...
11:12to even tell anyone...
11:13why do you think...
11:14there was...
11:15a shame...
11:16attached to it...
11:17definitely...
11:18and I think that's...
11:18the way they get away...
11:19with it...
11:20where they shame...
11:21the kids in these places...
11:22so much...
11:23where they're...
11:23we...
11:24were just too...
11:25embarrassed...
11:26and scared...
11:27to talk about it...
11:28and it was just...
11:28so...
11:29the things that happened...
11:30were just so like...
11:31crazy...
11:32it just...
11:33it...
11:33you wouldn't feel like...
11:34anyone would believe you...
11:35or...
11:36and...
11:37you kind of...
11:38go into...
11:38being told you're a bad kid...
11:39this is why you're here...
11:40yeah...
11:41and it just...
11:42it was just...
11:43it's horrible...
11:44what they do in these places...
11:45and plus...
11:46they get away with it...
11:47because they can...
11:48say to the parents...
11:48oh...
11:49they're...
11:50they're bad kids...
11:51they're lying...
11:52they're manipulating...
11:53they're trying to...
11:54you know...
11:55go home...
11:53so they're gonna say...
11:54that we're abusing them...
11:55they're gonna say this...
11:56they kind of tell the parents...
11:57what they're actually doing...
11:58they're lying...
11:59they're lying...
12:00and of course...
12:01if you're sending your child...
12:02to a place...
12:03and you think...
12:03they're gonna be protected...
12:04and you have no idea...
12:05the type of people...
12:06that work at these places...
12:08it's...
12:09you know...
12:10a recipe for disaster...
12:11I mean...
12:12I read some of...
12:13in your memoir...
12:13that...
12:14you're encouraged...
12:15to verbally abuse...
12:16each other...
12:17and then hug each other...
12:18afterwards...
12:18to untangle...
12:19mental abuse like that...
12:20it's...
12:21it just...
12:22I don't understand it...
12:23it blows my mind...
12:24how they think...
12:25that that's therapy...
12:26and when you go...
12:27into a place...
12:28and you...
12:28come out...
12:29more traumatized...
12:30than when you went in...
12:31Did it make you scared...
12:32of therapy...
12:33after that?
12:34Yeah...
12:33I've never had therapy...
12:34You've never had...
12:35therapy after that...
12:36because...
12:37it made me not...
12:38trust anyone...
12:38especially...
12:39people...
12:40like therapists...
12:41because I just thought...
12:42they were all...
12:43those type of people...
12:43and...
12:44um...
12:45it was just...
12:46a neat...
12:47that being a mom...
12:48it just makes me...
12:49even more...
12:50just...
12:51upset...
12:52and that's why...
12:53I just want to...
12:54continue...
12:55fighting...
12:56and using...
12:57leave them...
12:58in so many years...
12:59until...
13:00I've told my story...
13:01and now...
13:02it's started...
13:03an entire movement...
13:04it's been so difficult...
13:05especially for my mom...
13:06and dad to hear...
13:07about these things...
13:08because they had...
13:09no idea...
13:10the forgiveness...
13:11like even though...
13:12they were tricked...
13:13the forgiveness...
13:14process for you...
13:15with that...
13:14it must have been...
13:15so difficult...
13:16because I knew...
13:17that they had no idea...
13:18because that's...
13:19none of the parents...
13:20knew that this was happening...
13:21and...
13:22um...
13:23it's been...
13:24yeah...
13:25it's been like...
13:26a whole...
13:27my mom has just been...
13:28so...
13:29sad...
13:30just to hear...
13:31what has happened...
13:32and she's been...
13:33coming with me...
13:34to DC...
13:34to help speak...
13:35with the other parents...
13:36and...
13:37to let them know...
13:38her story as well...
13:39because it's important...
13:39for other families to know...
13:40because I feel like...
13:41the parents are just as much...
13:42the victims in this...
13:43well thank...
13:44thank you for using...
13:45your voice for good...
13:46thank you...
13:47it's been...
13:48the most meaningful...
13:49work of my life...
13:50like...
13:51when I was a little girl...
13:52I would have...
13:53no idea...
13:54that one day...
13:54I would be...
13:55I was...
13:56testifying in Congress...
13:57I would have passed...
13:58fifteen...
13:59state laws...
14:00and...
14:01the past two...
14:02federal bills...
14:03to protect children...
14:04so...
14:05it may...
14:04makes it all worth it...
14:05that I'm able to...
14:06help that from happening...
14:07to others...
14:08you should be...
14:09proud...
14:09so...
14:10instead of...
14:11traditional therapy...
14:12music's been something...
14:13that really has helped...
14:14to escape...
14:14and to disassociate...
14:15with a lot of the pain...
14:16and the healing...
14:17what...
14:18what...
14:19do you think...
14:19would have happened...
14:20if you didn't have music...
14:21to help you?
14:22I don't know...
14:23I think...
14:24out of thinking...
14:25of everything in my life...
14:26like music...
14:27art...
14:28and music...
14:29things...
14:30that helped me so much...
14:31and...
14:32even through doing...
14:33this documentary...
14:34I've just seen...
14:34like the power...
14:35in music...
14:36and...
14:37even the power...
14:38in listening to a lyric...
14:39and a song...
14:39like something...
14:40that could change your mood...
14:41or even change your life...
14:42and...
14:43just so many...
14:44of my fans...
14:45have come up to me...
14:46and said...
14:47thank you so much...
14:48for your album...
14:49it saved my life...
14:49like...
14:50thank you for your memoir...
14:51you have no idea...
14:52how much it means to me...
14:53so just to see...
14:54like the impact...
14:55it could make...
14:56on someone's life...
14:57and...
14:58I love that I'm able now...
14:59to have these...
14:59concerts...
15:00and create these...
15:01safe spaces...
15:02where my fans can come...
15:03and...
15:04dress up...
15:05however they want to...
15:04wear like...
15:05these outfits...
15:06and have so much fun...
15:07and just...
15:08lose their self...
15:09in my music...
15:09and have the most...
15:10incredible night...
15:11and forget about...
15:12anything bad...
15:13that's happening...
15:14in their life...
15:14what's...
15:15what's the darkest moment...
15:16you've been through...
15:17was it in...
15:18Provo?
15:19yes...
15:20just the...
15:21things that happened...
15:22to those places...
15:23should never happen to it...
15:24anyone...
15:25and especially...
15:26not a child...
15:27and...
15:28just...
15:29being terrified...
15:30every single day...
15:31of like...
15:32what was gonna happen next...
15:33and then having...
15:34severe nightmares about it...
15:36for...
15:37you know...
15:3820 years...
15:39until I started talking...
15:39telling my story...
15:40Were there moments...
15:41where you didn't want...
15:42to be here anymore?
15:43What...
15:44when I was in there...
15:45I was...
15:46it felt...
15:47everyone I felt...
15:48felt that way...
15:49like...
15:50you just...
15:49was like...
15:50it would be better...
15:51not to live...
15:52than being in these...
15:53type of places...
15:54um...
15:56but...
15:57it did make me really strong...
15:58where...
15:59it almost...
15:59prepared me...
16:00for Hollywood...
16:01in a sense...
16:02because I don't know...
16:03if I could have...
16:04survived the two...
16:042000s...
16:05and the way...
16:06I was treated...
16:07unless I had already...
16:08been through...
16:09such hell before...
16:09documentary...
16:10there was a line...
16:11that really stuck with me...
16:12where you said...
16:13life doesn't stop...
16:14life doesn't stop...
16:15with the drama...
16:16so neither should you...
16:17and I found it...
16:18really interesting...
16:19and something...
16:20I've tried to embrace...
16:21like...
16:22life is crazy...
16:23and bad things...
16:24are always gonna happen...
16:25and you've just...
16:24got to...
16:25power through...
16:26and we see that...
16:27in the documentary...
16:28when the fire...
16:29happens in the trailer...
16:29and you're...
16:30you've just...
16:31got to keep going...
16:32it's a pivotal moment...
16:33in the production...
16:34of the...
16:34at all...
16:35how do you...
16:36manage to carry on...
16:37when bad things happen...
16:38and...
16:39you're somebody who...
16:39things have happened...
16:40constantly...
16:41and you...
16:42are always smiling...
16:43you're always positive...
16:44from going...
16:44through so much...
16:45in my life...
16:46it's made me...
16:47so strong...
16:48and resilient...
16:49where...
16:50I can make it...
16:49through anything...
16:50so no matter what...
16:51life throws at me...
16:52it just continues...
16:53to make me...
16:54stronger...
16:55every single time...
16:56well...
16:57I'm loving...
16:58this pop journey...
16:59what...
16:59do you want to do...
17:00next...
17:01with your pop career...
17:02this has just been...
17:03so...
17:04so much fun...
17:05just...
17:06living out my dreams...
17:07and now...
17:08I've been in the...
17:09studio...
17:10the past year...
17:11and just finishing up...
17:12my third album...
17:13which will be...
17:14really...
17:14released next year...
17:15and I can't wait...
17:16we have a big tour...
17:17planned...
17:18so I can't wait...
17:19to perform...
17:19around the world...
17:20and then get started...
17:21on my fourth album...
17:22this is what...
17:23I love to do...
17:24more than anything...
17:25Have you got...
17:26advice from your...
17:27musical friends...
17:28like Brittany?
17:29we were just talking...
17:30about music...
17:31the other night...
17:32we were in Cabo...
17:33for her birthday...
17:34so it was such...
17:35an amazing night...
17:36and...
17:37yeah...
17:38we always love...
17:39to like...
17:40play music...
17:39to dance, and we were just talking about what our favorite songs are.
17:44And like, what type of music that we love, and...
17:46Do you think you could ever do anything with her?
17:49That would be iconic, so we'll see what happens.
17:54Yeah.
17:55I love her so much.
17:56She's an angel.
17:57And you threw her birthday party, was that accurate?
17:59Yeah.
18:00That's lovely that she's got such a good sisterly bond.
18:04With you, and you keep it very low-key as well, and I'm sure she appreciates that.
18:08You're someone who...
18:09Do you ever wish you weren't famous at all?
18:14Mm-hmm.
18:15I feel like this is something I was born...
18:19to do as well.
18:20I feel like there's certain people in life that this is like what they're meant to be.
18:24So, even though it's been so difficult and hard...
18:29I try to think about all the beautiful things that come with it, and I really see fame as...
18:34like a superpower to make people happy.
18:36So, I love that I'm able to just...
18:39make people's days by like taking a photo with them, or spending time with them, or just...
18:44anything, smiling, just...
18:46I feel like it just makes people so...
18:49happy.
18:50So, I think that...
18:51the good things you can do with it.
18:52And I love that I'm able to use my plow...
18:54platform just to make a difference in other people's lives.
18:57So, even though I'm...
18:59it has been very traumatizing at times...
19:01it's worth it.
19:02I like that.
19:03I love...
19:04I love that you're using your fame and your platform to do good in the world.
19:07How...
19:08how about money?
19:09How...
19:10do you think money brings you happiness?
19:11It does because I have worked so hard...
19:14and...
19:15success is something that has always really been a driving force for me.
19:19and...
19:20I feel very lucky just to grow up in my family and have incredible...
19:24business mentors of my grandfather and my parents...
19:28and I always have...
19:29love to make them proud...
19:31and...
19:32I love that I've created this entire...
19:34brand and empire...
19:35and now...
19:361111, my media company.
19:38So...
19:39it makes me happy because I'm able just to...
19:42feel that happiness.
19:44and I think that also just from going to those schools...
19:47and being so controlled...
19:49that I made a promise to myself...
19:50that I was going to work so hard...
19:52and become so successful...
19:53that...
19:54no one could ever control me or tell me what to do again.
19:57So I really see it as...
19:58freedom.
19:59So you used the pain that you went through...
20:01and the restrictions...
20:02and the abuse...
20:04to...
20:05to drive your...
20:06your...
20:07your ambition.
20:08Yes.
20:09What do you say to people who say you've had it easy...
20:12because...
20:13because you came from money?
20:14I could totally understand people saying that...
20:17because of course...
20:18I'm very...
20:19very privileged...
20:20that I'm...
20:21you know...
20:22came from a family...
20:23where I've been able to...
20:24learn so much from such incredible...
20:26businessmen...
20:27and women...
20:28and...
20:29just...
20:30you know...
20:31coming from my last name as well...
20:32so...
20:33but I've seen...
20:34a lot of other people...
20:35who come from...
20:36you know...
20:37prestigious families...
20:38and...
20:39a lot of them don't do anything...
20:41like...
20:42a lot of people I know...
20:43like...
20:44they just get like...
20:44allowance from their parents still...
20:45they've never worked a day in their life...
20:47and...
20:48I've also seen just how...
20:49how unhappy they are...
20:50because I feel like they have no...
20:51fulfillment in life...
20:52because they...
20:53are just...
20:54handed everything...
20:55and...
20:56they've never had to work for any of it...
20:57so...
20:58yes...
20:59I can...
20:59understand people...
21:00they don't know...
21:01and don't see...
21:02how much work has went into...
21:03everything that I do...
21:04and...
21:05just how...
21:06what I've created...
21:07and what I've built...
21:08and...
21:09you know...
21:10what I've...
21:09been through...
21:10on top of all that...
21:11um...
21:12so I think if people...
21:13know me there...
21:14understand...
21:15but then...
21:16if there's like an outsider...
21:17who just...
21:18you know...
21:19sees the name...
21:20Paris Hilton...
21:21so...
21:19so I can understand...
21:20how some people would think that...
21:21because I would say...
21:22I'm self-made...
21:23but like...
21:24my granddad...
21:24you need to go to...
21:25journalism school...
21:26everybody's gonna get some help...
21:27how much help...
21:28did you get at the beginning?
21:29um...
21:30I...
21:31like...
21:32used to get like an allowance...
21:33but I haven't...
21:34got anything since I was...
21:3418...
21:3518...
21:36so...
21:37that's the same as me...
21:38my...
21:39mine was probably...
21:39only one through college...
21:40so...
21:41you didn't get money...
21:42from your parents...
21:43there was no trust fund...
21:44nothing like that...
21:44I've been working since I was...
21:4616...
21:47and so they didn't help...
21:48with the deposit...
21:49for a house...
21:50or anything like that...
21:51no...
21:52I did everything on my own...
21:53that's really not fair...
21:54that people...
21:54like criticize you...
21:55for being...
21:56not believing...
21:57that you're self-made...
21:58because...
21:59there's a New York Post...
21:59saying fans are reacting...
22:00saying she's delusional...
22:01thinking she's self-made...
22:02if they actually knew...
22:04everything...
22:05and saw...
22:06everything...
22:07they would understand...
22:08that's...
22:09that's really interesting...
22:09congratulations...
22:10how will you handle...
22:11that balance...
22:12with your own kids...
22:13because of a...
22:14obviously...
22:15you've been...
22:16incredibly successful...
22:17how will you...
22:18create the balance...
22:19of...
22:19trying to work out...
22:20how much to...
22:21support to give them...
22:22I think it's...
22:23you know...
22:24just from growing up...
22:25in this way...
22:26and seeing so many others...
22:27I think...
22:28if you spoil your...
22:29children...
22:30you will destroy them...
22:31so that's something...
22:32that my husband and I...
22:33talk about...
22:34where...
22:34of course...
22:35want to give them...
22:36the most beautiful life...
22:37make them so happy...
22:38but...
22:39we also want to...
22:40instill...
22:39that work ethic...
22:40and make them...
22:41want to do something...
22:42with their own lives...
22:43and I think...
22:44with my babies...
22:44growing up...
22:45and seeing...
22:46just how...
22:47hard I work...
22:48and everything I accomplish...
22:49it's going to be...
22:50really...
22:49really inspirational to them...
22:50and...
22:51that's why...
22:52I've built so much...
22:53at the house...
22:54where I have like...
22:54recording studio here...
22:55the podcasting studio...
22:56the...
22:57photo studio...
22:58just like...
22:59so much...
22:59of my work...
23:00I'm able to do from home...
23:01and my kids are always there...
23:02watching everything...
23:03so I think...
23:04I feel like...
23:05that will be instilled in them...
23:06just like...
23:07anytime I'm in a meeting here...
23:08like they're sitting on my lap...
23:09so like...
23:10I feel like...
23:11even the other babies...
23:12they're soaking it in...
23:13and they'll continue to do so...
23:14throughout their life...
23:15so...
23:16yeah...
23:17I think...
23:18for my kids...
23:19I just want them to be...
23:19so happy...
23:20and be incredible human beings...
23:21and...
23:22I want them to do...
23:23whatever makes them happy...
23:24you've talked a lot about...
23:25reclaiming your narrative...
23:26what's one...
23:27misconception about...
23:28Paris Hilton...
23:29that you're still trying to...
23:30correct...
23:31I feel like I've been...
23:32such an open book...
23:33in the past five years...
23:34where I've...
23:35discussed...
23:36everything...
23:37so I don't really think...
23:38there's any anymore...
23:39I feel like...
23:40I've cleared up...
23:41so many misconceptions...
23:42I feel like...
23:43before...
23:44you know...
23:45thought I was a dumb blonde...
23:46because of the simple life...
23:47but...
23:48I've proved that I...
23:49I'm not a dumb blonde...
23:50I'm just very good at...
23:51pretending to be on...
23:52Well...
23:53that comes...
23:54on to my next question...
23:55actually...
23:56I loved in the movie...
23:57when...
23:58you know...
23:59doing the recording...
24:00and somebody says...
24:01you can use your real voice...
24:02on this one...
24:03and...
24:04it reminded me...
24:04I was on...
24:05your BFF show...
24:06with you back in the day...
24:07and we would record...
24:08and you'd have this baby...
24:09voice saying...
24:10that's hot...
24:11and then we'd go off...
24:12and you'd be with...
24:13Benji...
24:14talking about beats...
24:15and this voice...
24:14so low...
24:15and I would just be like...
24:16she's two different people...
24:17and so...
24:18like...
24:19you pretended to be somebody...
24:21was that...
24:22where did that come from?
24:24was that protectionism...
24:25protecting yourself...
24:26by being a caricature...
24:28or was that...
24:29strategically...
24:30to play a part...
24:31and earn money?
24:32I think...
24:33you know...
24:34I didn't even realise...
24:34until...
24:35You still do it!
24:36Was it high or low then?
24:37That was low then.
24:38See I...
24:39I literally...
24:40can't even control it...
24:41I think it's just...
24:42such a part of me now...
24:43because I've been doing it...
24:44for so long...
24:44um...
24:45but I do think it was...
24:46a trauma response...
24:47to what I went through...
24:48um...
24:49where I just kind of...
24:49wanted to build this...
24:50perfect...
24:51like a Barbie doll...
24:52life...
24:53and...
24:54like a Disney...
24:55kind of...
24:56I don't know...
24:57Barbie character...
24:58and then...
24:59um...
25:00you know...
25:01getting the simple life...
25:02and then the producer's telling me...
25:03you know...
25:04we want you to...
25:04play this kind of...
25:05blonde...
25:06spoiled airhead...
25:07and play into this character...
25:08and this was the...
25:09first reality show...
25:10and...
25:11I had no idea...
25:12I'd have to continue...
25:13on that character...
25:14for five seasons straight...
25:15and then...
25:16every talk show...
25:17and everything I would go on...
25:18I would be the character...
25:19and then I just kind of...
25:20got...
25:21stuck in it almost...
25:22because the whole world thought...
25:23that's who I really was...
25:24and I'm also a very...
25:25naturally shy person...
25:27so I feel like...
25:28being the...
25:29character...
25:30it made it easier...
25:31for me...
25:32to kind of...
25:33be silly...
25:34and say...
25:34ridiculous things...
25:35I don't know...
25:36I feel like...
25:37if the simple life...
25:38had me talking...
25:39in my normal voice...
25:40and not playing the character...
25:39it would not have been...
25:40the show...
25:41that it was...
25:42I can see that...
25:43I know...
25:44Nikki...
25:44she's shy too...
25:45and...
25:46that shyness...
25:47comes across...
25:48with both of you...
25:49it's an understanding...
25:50that like...
25:51you're playing a part...
25:52to get through...
25:53social anxiety...
25:54sometimes I'll do that...
25:55at parties...
25:56like...
25:57I've got to be down...
25:58wait for tonight...
25:59how do you...
25:59deal with...
26:00social anxiety...
26:01now?
26:02I still have...
26:03social anxiety...
26:04and I think...
26:05that might be...
26:06the ADHD as well...
26:07because I'm just...
26:08so in my head...
26:09all the time...
26:10and...
26:09I get...
26:10I think...
26:11also since the pandemic...
26:12like...
26:13I've gotten...
26:14just like...
26:15way more anxiety...
26:14than I used to...
26:15um...
26:16but then...
26:17if I'm around...
26:18like...
26:19if I bring like...
26:19the best friend...
26:20or like...
26:21I'm with like...
26:22a group of people...
26:23I trust...
26:24then I feel...
26:25more comfortable...
26:24but if I'm just like...
26:25going in somewhere...
26:26and...
26:27not knowing anyone...
26:28sometimes I get...
26:29a little...
26:29nervous...
26:30I think that's normal...
26:31I feel like everyone...
26:32I mean...
26:33it's just like us...
26:34it's just like...
26:35regular folks...
26:36everybody deals...
26:34with mental health issues...
26:35but people wouldn't imagine...
26:36that Paris Hilton...
26:37this striking...
26:38beautiful blonde...
26:39woman with everything...
26:40would be nervous...
26:41going into...
26:42going into an event...
26:43Yeah...
26:44I think people would...
26:45definitely be surprised...
26:46to know that...
26:47What's your relationship...
26:48with the character...
26:49of Paris Hilton...
26:50these days?
26:51Well...
26:52I think...
26:53before I saw...
26:54it was like...
26:55a form of protection...
26:56and now I see it as...
26:57like my...
26:58just fun...
26:59silly...
26:59inside...
27:00like...
27:01you know...
27:02there's...
27:03a time and place...
27:04for everything...
27:05and like...
27:06when I'm doing...
27:07you know...
27:08like...
27:09different campaigns...
27:10with brands...
27:11and they want me...
27:12to play the character...
27:13like...
27:14I...
27:15I'm...
27:16I'm...
27:17I'm...
27:18I'm...
27:19I'm...
27:20I'm...
27:21I'm...
27:22I'm...
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27:31I'm...
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27:54I'm...
27:55I'm...
27:56I'm...
27:57I'm...
27:58I'm...
27:59what a warm-up was at the time.
28:02I did.
28:04You did that?
28:04I did, yeah.
28:05You do.
28:06I just thought it would be a funny line.
28:08And you came up with it.
28:09I just, yeah, it wasn't like I thought about it in advance,
28:12because I didn't even know we were going to talk about it.
28:14But when it came up, I was like, in my mind,
28:16I was like, this will be funny.
28:18I had no idea.
28:19It would be such an iconic line that people,
28:21to this day, still say.
28:24And now I have, like, my entire kitchenware and homeware and
28:27Your fragrances were immoral.
28:29All of it.
28:29Yeah, so.
28:30When was the last time you were in Walmart?
28:32I was there two weeks ago.
28:34In Arkansas, actually.
28:36I go there all the time to go meet with the whole team out.
28:39And I was showing them all the new products from my new line
28:42for Paris and Pups.
28:43And.
28:44My new homeware line and kitchenware line and storage line and all of it.
28:49So I have, like, over 400 SKUs of products inside of Walmart.
28:53So now I know they don't.
28:54They don't sell walls.
28:55They sell Paris Hilton products.
28:57You're just a comedy icon.
28:59So, moving on to something a bit more difficult, the sex tape.
29:04It's.
29:04It's really heartbreaking looking back on the doc, in the documentary,
29:06and you talk about it, that you had no.
29:09agency about this.
29:10Besides Pamela Anderson, you were the first celebrity.
29:14You were the first celebrity to go through this publicly.
29:16And internet was different.
29:18Copyright was different.
29:19It was a wild, wild west.
29:20And now it would be impossible to happen.
29:23Like.
29:24Was there no way of stopping it coming out?
29:26How was that time?
29:27It was.
29:28It was.
29:29just.
29:30Humiliating.
29:31So painful.
29:32I did not want to.
29:34of my house. So I was just, it was just, you know, just trust something.
29:39And to have somebody and have them violate me like that was just...
29:44the most horrible thing that you could do to a person. And, um...
29:49there was nothing that I could do about it. And, um, yeah, that's something that will...
29:54haunt me the rest of my life. And if that happened today, it would be illegal.
29:59Um, so...
30:02I mean, I think...
30:03Like another thing...
30:04I went through that now it would be illegal for people today. So I think that,
30:07again, is the good part that other girls...
30:09don't have to go through that. But, um, yeah, that was, um...
30:14I mean, when you frame it that this was a young girl who didn't...
30:19was coerced to do this and then was publicly humiliated and then flogged for it afterwards.
30:24Like, it really wasn't... really wasn't fair. I'm not going to mention...
30:29the name of the guy because you cleverly didn't do that in the doc.
30:33Have you ever spoken to?
30:34the ex again?
30:35No.
30:36Would you ever have a conversation with him?
30:38No.
30:39Have you thought about when your kids find out about the sex tape and how you'll approach?
30:44it with them?
30:45That's going to be really just...
30:49painful subject to talk about. Like, I don't even know. Like, I have...
30:54I haven't even thought about what I'm going to say since they're only two years old right
30:57now.
30:58Um...
30:59But...
31:00Hopefully by talking to them...
31:04they'll never have something like that happen to them or they'll be taken advantage of.
31:09So it's just...
31:11horrible.
31:12And now just being a mom again, just think...
31:14thinking about that just makes me even sadder for me that I had to go through all that.
31:18And so...
31:19publicly and have people vilify me for it when I was just a 19-year-old kid, basically.
31:24Yeah.
31:25The media were just...
31:27brutal for you, the news media...
31:29particularly the expert in the documentary said...
31:31you're targeted because of your intelligence to play the game.
31:34effectively.
31:35We kind of played the game together, similar to Princess Diana. You worked with the press
31:38at times.
31:39welcomed them into your life, posed for the paparazzi. Do you think you paid...
31:44the price for that by welcoming the media?
31:46I didn't think that was fair at all. I was always...
31:49respectful and kind. And I knew that people were just trying to do their job.
31:54So I would... always be nice to everyone. I never... was one of those celebrities.
31:59that would, you know, tell them off or... or go off on them like I've seen some people do.
32:04So I just thought it was really unfair the way that they did that.
32:08I'm gonna read some of that.
32:09headlines from the documentary. And just ask you like, how did they make you feel?
32:14back then? Like the idea that this was a description of a young woman in a...
32:19early twenties. Paris Hilton. What's the point? Famous for nothing. Bimbo summit. No brains.
32:24It was all fame. A new low for celebrity culture. Like you're human just like the rest.
32:29of us. How did that feel at the time? It was really hurtful. You know, I was...
32:34just a young girl just living my life. But I had the whole world watching.
32:39and judging and picking everything apart. And just... I felt...
32:44like no matter what I did or what I accomplished, people... just...
32:49refuse to... I don't know, just see... see me as like a human.
32:54being. It was just like a cartoon character or like a punchline that they just...
32:59make fun of. And it just always hurt my feelings because I've always been such a sensitive.
33:04person as well. And then on top of it, having ADHD...
33:09we experience emotions like 10 times more than...
33:14a neurotypical person. And especially... there's something called RST.
33:19which is rejection sensitive dysphoria, which 99% of people...
33:24with ADHD experience. So... to have things like said like...
33:29that is just... physically pain.
33:34painful. Like it's like being stabbed in the heart. Like it's just... I would...
33:39cry so much all the time. Just like constantly hearing things and people making up...
33:44lies and stories. It was just... a nightmare.
33:47What would you say to the people who wrote the...
33:49headlines now? Say...
33:52Look at me now, honey.
33:54I've always loved proving people wrong. So many... so much in my career.
33:59been underestimated and misunderstood. So now today, just to see...
34:04my life and everything that I've accomplished and... my beautiful family and...
34:09just everything that I've done. And now... I've had so many people come up and...
34:14apologize to me. So many reporters... just... people...
34:19on the street have said that. If I'm doing an interview. Just so many people have said...
34:22I'm so sorry for the way that...
34:24myself and others treated you because you did not deserve that. So it feels...
34:28it's very...
34:29very healing to hear that from people to realize that they know it was wrong.
34:32What advice would you give...
34:34to the... to the young girl who's going through that now?
34:37Hmm...
34:39my advice would be that... you shouldn't listen...
34:44people like that... that... what matters most is what you think of yourself.
34:49So don't let that outside noise affect how you feel about yourself...
34:53because...
34:54a...
34:55a lot of people...
34:56can be mean, especially...
34:58you know, now...
34:59about the internet...
35:00and... you know, people are able to hide behind a computer...
35:03and...
35:04It's a different form of meanness now.
35:06It's different. I feel like the media... it wasn't like that... but then there's like the...
35:09internet trolls who are just like...
35:11these people living in like... their parents' basement and like...
35:14miserable with no life and like...
35:16just sit on the computer all day... just writing rude things.
35:19to people...
35:20like... I just would tell them like...
35:21I would feel bad for this... these people that they...
35:24are that miserable... that they need to go and... and try to... tear you down.
35:29and don't let it affect you.
35:30In the movie... I found it really interesting... you talking about your ADHD...
35:34and thank you... I think... like... I believe... with mental health challenges...
35:37it's so important to talk about them... and normalize...
35:39destigmatize them... and destigmatize them... and make people feel less alone...
35:42and... you've been a leading...
35:44person with ADHD to do that... and... the quote that really hit me...
35:47from the documentary was... I have all the...
35:49successful success... but I wish I could be as happy as someone...
35:52without the ADHD demon...
35:54who had had all these things... still have... would have had all these things... so...
35:59do you still feel like that?
36:01It's... it's gotten... much better...
36:04like... now that I've... really... studied... and researched... and know so...
36:09much about my ADHD... but... growing up... no one was talking about it... especially... with...
36:14young girls... so... I had no idea... like... being in school... and...
36:19constantly... getting in trouble... all the time... like... not able to focus... like... always in detention...
36:24always failing... like... all the tests... because I couldn't remember anything... or... like... losing my home...
36:29just like... so many things would happen... and... you know... people with ADHD... would just be called... like...
36:34bad kids... and I think that's... you know... one of the reasons... I got sent away... to these schools... is because...
36:39of it... because I just... was not able to... focus in school... or anything... no matter... how hard...
36:44I tried... um... and then... now... knowing... that...
36:49that... the voices... from that... that are negative... self-talk... are...
36:54not true... like... that... is always a good thing... so... anytime... I do... have that... happening... I'll just...
36:59immediately say... that's not you... that's just your ADHD...
37:02So... that's how you manage it... that's really... I... really...
37:04love... sharing... solutions... that's how you... I talked to... this... amazing... doctor... named...
37:09Dr. Hallowell... who was like... one of the leading... ADHD... psychiatrists... and...
37:14he has it as well... and he... calls it... the demon... it's called... DMM...
37:19which is like... the... default... mode network... is... what the real... term... port is...
37:24in the documentary... you call it the demon voice... the demon... I found it... fascinating... the idea... that... all of these mean things... are...
37:29being said... about you... in the press... but... it's worse... in your head... that... you were saying...
37:34the worst things... about yourself... yeah... so... that... was just... painful... and I think... through...
37:39doing this documentary... like... I feel like... I never even gave myself... the credit... for... like... how much... I... serve...
37:44survived... even... going... through... that... like... after... everything... I... had... already... went... through... in... these... schools... then... you... know...
37:49coming out... into... Hollywood... and then... having... the... media... say... all... these... crazy... things... like... it... was... just...
37:54it... it was... it was... so... traumatizing... back then... so...
37:59like... grateful... now... to... have... healed... from... that...
38:04and... now... I'm... able... to... tell... my... story... to... others... because... I... know... there's... so... many... other... you... know... kids...
38:09who... who... have... ADHD... who... I'm... sure... are... going through... the... same... thing... right... now... and...
38:14just... just... to... tell... them... and... let... them... know... that... this... is... something... that... we... all... experience... and...
38:19that... those... things... are... not... true... and... to... be... strong... and... to... lean... on... in... on... it...
38:24is... your... superpower... because... I... wouldn't... be... the...
38:29entrepreneur... I... I... wouldn't... be... the... creative... I... am... I... wouldn't... have... these... so... many... different... businesses... without...
38:34without... the... ADHD... so... I... want... to... inspire... others... that... this... can... be...
38:39a... superpower... and... you... can... just... lean... in... to... what... you... love... they... say... that... we... can't... focus...
38:44but... that's... not... true... we... can... hyper... focus... like... no... other... we... just...
38:49can't... focus... on... things... that... are... boring... but... the... things... that... light... us... up... we... will... focus...
38:54like... a... superhero... that's... really... interesting... it's... just... that... all... of... our... brains... have... worked... differently... and... so...
38:59the... the... fact... you're... talking... about... and... normalizing... this... and... showing... it's... actually... a... positive... not... a... negative...
39:04is... is... is... is... a... great... example... for society... so... thank... you... I've... had... so... many...
39:09families... kids... people... come up to me... and... say... thank... you... so... much... for... writing... your... song... ADHD...
39:14like... my... child... used to be... so... ashamed... of it... but... now... that's... their... anthem... and...
39:19they're... singing... it... every... morning... and... telling... everyone... ADHD... is... my... superpower... so... I... love... how...
39:24I'm... able... to... reframe... it... especially... for... these... young... kids... growing... up... with... it... because... I... know... that... a... lot... of... them... are... struggling...
39:29and... and... back in the... noughties... you... you... you... felt... you... couldn't... admit... to... having... any... any...
39:34weaknesses... and... now... it's... different... opening up... with... your... vulnerabilities... is... your... superpower...
39:39yes... for... sure... growing... up... in... the... 2000s... like... no... one... was... even... saying... the... word... mental...
39:44mental health... like... if you... heard... that... they'd be... like... what... like... mental... hospital... like... they... wouldn't... understand... that...
39:49I'm... I'm... I'm... I'm... a... big... believer... and... I've... done... a... lot... of... work... in... the... mental... space... that... like... everybody... has... got...
39:54somebody... in... the... family... who's... going... through... something... scratched... beneath... the... surface... I've... got... people... with... PTSD...
39:59ADHD... um... to... clinical... depression... and... it... and... it... no... people... don't...
40:04talk... about... it... and... we should... encourage... it... make... people... feel... less... alone... so... thank... you... for... all... of... your... work...
40:09thank... you... I think... it's... amazing... seeing... this... new... generation... and... how... open... they... are... just... how...
40:14you... how... you... know... we... were... all... taught... like... if... anything's... wrong... don't... talk... about... it... just... like... everything...
40:19everything... is... fine... but... when... you... do... talk... about... things... it... just... shows... like... the... power... of... vulnerability...
40:24and... telling... your... truth... and... just... like... letting... it... out... and... it... just... like... helps... you... so... much... and...
40:29then... it... makes... others... feel... safe... to... open... up... as... well... and... then... it... starts... like... this... whole... domino...
40:34where... so... many... people... could... heal... around... the... world... so... you... are... just... like... us... the... relatable... thing...
40:39so... what... matter... so... all... of... my... gay... friends... are... totally... jealous... I'm... here... with... you...
40:44the... house... and... until... I... saw... this... documentary... I... didn't... really... realise...
40:49why... you... were... gay... icon... and... I... had... tears... streaming... down... my... face... when... you... said...
40:54they... are... the... ones... who... gave... me... the... greatest... gift... showing... me... what... truly... means...
40:59to... live... my... true... for... so... long... I... was... weighed... down... by... the... shame... over... what... I... went... through... in... the... troubled... teen...
41:04history... I've... never... heard... a... straight... person... understand... the... shame... that... gay... people...
41:09go... through... living... in... a... world... feeling... othered... and... not... feeling... welcomed... and...
41:14the... fact... that... you... could... empathise... with... that... with... what... you... gone... through... I... found... that... really... powerful...
41:19so... thank... you... when... when... when... did... you realise... your... similarities... with... the... gay... community...
41:24just... especially... getting... out... of... those schools... and then...
41:29David... David LaChapelle... and I... were... very... close... friends... forever... and... I... was... one... of... his muses... and... he... would...
41:34take... me... to... all... the... gay... clubs... so... I... was... hanging out... like... him... and... Amanda... Lepore... and... like... Patricia... Fields...
41:39and... like... that... whole... club... scene... and... just... feeling... so... like... much...
41:44love... so... accepted... just... seeing... these... people... who... just... like... live... their... life... out...
41:49just... beautiful... inside... and... out... and... just...
41:54I... learned... so... much... from... that... just... an... incredible... community... in... so... many... ways... Pride...
41:59my favorite... time... of the... year... it's... so... much... fun... just... being... on... stage... performing...
42:04going... going... to... all... the... gay... clubs... and... feeling... the... energy... the... love... in... the... room... it's... like...
42:09nothing... I can... even... describe... it's... just... so... much... fun...
42:12Well... thank... thank... thank...
42:14thank... you... for... your... support... the... the... the... way... you... vocalized... that... connection... to... the... community... was... so... breathtaking...
42:19like... how... have... you... dealt... with... that... shame... that... you... talked... about... I've... just... felt...
42:24that... a lot... of... the... things... that... have... happened... in... my... life... are... because... other... people... hurt... me...
42:29and... something... another... message... in... this... film... that... I wanna... have... others...
42:34know... is... that... the... shame... should... not... be... on... us... it... should... be... on... the... people... who... hurt... us...
42:39and... I... was... actually... speaking... with... one... of... the... survivors... who...
42:44went... went... to Provo Canyon School... with... me... and... she... said... that... to... me... um... when... we... were... doing...
42:49my first... documentary... and... that's... something... that... stuck... with... me... ever... since... and... it's... so... true... I... feel... like... so...
42:54many... the... times... so... many... of... us... have... held... onto... shame... which... never... should... have... been... on... us...
42:59it... should... have... always... been... on... that... person... who... hurt... us... so... I... think... that's... such... a... powerful... message... for... people...
43:04to... know... in... their... hearts... because... I... feel... like... that... would... take... away... a... lot... of... pain...
43:09from... people... if... they knew... that...
43:11Motherhood... they say... becoming... a... parent... will... humble...
43:14you... and... make... you... just... like... us... what's... one... way... your... kids... have... humbled... you... recently...
43:19they... they... are... just... my... everything... my... world...
43:24and... every... day... with... them... just... feels... like... a... dream... come... true... I've... always...
43:29wanted... wanted... to be... a... mom... and... now... to... have... these... two... little... angels... who... are... just...
43:34the... cutest... little... fun... like... sweet... smart...
43:39um... they're... just... everything... to me... I'm... so... so... lucky... that... I'm... their... mom...
43:44when was your... like... latest... breakdown... in tears... mummy... meltdown... moment...
43:49they're... such... good... kids... I... I... I... I... know... I've... never... had... like... a... meltdown... moment...
43:54they're... they're... really... well... behaved... they're... so... like... s... just...
43:59smart... they're... so... kind... they're... so... gentle... they're... on... amazing... sleep... schedule...
44:04like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like... they're... like
44:09out to be wild how are you gonna do with this i i think about that a lot
44:14that's that's that scares me um you're not going to send them to a provost we know that
44:19definitely not um that's why even with this house like i
44:24want to like build like this world where they never want to sneak out because they'll just oh
44:29want to invite all their friends here and this will be like the house everyone like is that what
44:34movie nights and going in the pool and the water slide and just like having some
44:39much fun where like i feel like they'll never want to leave and if they try to sneak out we have
44:44the most advanced security system security guards cameras
44:49lasers everything so there will be no sneaking out on my watch
44:54so you're creating you're creating a safe environment
44:56so they don't
44:59want to leave and if they did they couldn't anyway um what's something your mum
45:04dad taught you about um life and parenting that you want to pass on to your kids
45:09or is there anything you want to do differently
45:10or is there anything you want to do differently
45:10or is there anything you want to do differently i love that my mom
45:14mom and dad just always made every holiday especially so special
45:19just like my mom is like the queen of christmas so with all the decorating like
45:24all of that i learned from her and just making the all those family moments just like unfur-
45:29forgettable and like just all of the memories and family traditions that i learned from my parents
45:43you
45:34i'm now passing on to my children
45:35and
45:37just how important
45:39is and being close with each other and yeah.
45:44Just like the holidays are so special and I love that my mom really instilled that in
45:49to me and yeah.
45:51How is Cathy as a grandma?
45:53How is grandma Cathy?
45:54Is she hands on or does she spoil them rotten?
45:56Don't call her grandma.
45:59She's called Kiki and she is the cutest and the best.
46:04And the kids love when she comes over.
46:07They love going to her house.
46:09She has like a whole like children's nursery playroom at the house that has.
46:14All the coolest toys and everything so they're always going over there and playing with her.
46:19And she's very childlike in so many ways as well so she's just so sweet with them.
46:24And she's obsessed, especially with London.
46:27She's like London is like my.
46:29She's a twin because if you look at their baby photos they look so similar.
46:32Oh really?
46:33That's so cute.
46:34But she's an amazing.
46:35Yeah.
46:36She's an amazing grandma.
46:37See you have 20 boy umbrellas.
46:39Those on ice I read after trying for a girl for so many times.
46:43Will you keep them on ice?
46:44Yeah.
46:45So you never know.
46:47So you consider more kids?
46:49I love having two but you never know because they're getting so big so I just.
46:54I love babies so much so maybe there'll be another brother one day we'll see.
46:59what happens.
47:00Or if someone in the family needs one we have lots of boys.
47:04We talked about this earlier about how trolls and social media are difficult and there's
47:08so much mum shape.
47:09shaming on social like critiquing like a baby's physicality so appalling.
47:14How do you handle things like that?
47:15What does it bring out on you?
47:17I'm like a protective.
47:19I'm a mama bear so I get very protective and you know.
47:24sometimes there is you know people online who want to be mean and negative and.
47:29I just think it's so wrong to talk about a baby in a bad way or.
47:34just like a cruel way so I am always very protective of it.
47:39but there's been so many moms and others who have been so supportive and so.
47:44amazing and.
47:45I love being able to share my life with them and.
47:49it's always nice to hear from the other moms.
47:51because.
47:52moms are superheroes.
47:54and we can do it all.
47:55just like us that's a leveler and.
47:57like.
47:58no matter.
47:59if you've got millions of dollars.
48:00like you still have to go through the same struggles as.
48:04other parents.
48:05how do you.
48:06and carter.
48:07think about balancing privacy with.
48:09sharing family moments.
48:10like how do you ever have any tension about that.
48:12I feel like I.
48:13I.
48:14share so much of my life.
48:15um.
48:16and I love my fans.
48:18and I love my fans.
48:19and I know that they.
48:20love seeing.
48:21my family.
48:22so I.
48:23love to show them certain.
48:24moments or not like.
48:25every single day.
48:26but.
48:27all like the.
48:28special.
48:29fun moments that we do together.
48:30it's always fun to share them.
48:32like.
48:33phoenix just.
48:34like always is saying the cutest things.
48:36and.
48:37um.
48:38i don't know.
48:39funny thing he said lately.
48:40he.
48:41just everything.
48:42like he just like.
48:43he says.
48:44all of my catchphrases.
48:45like.
48:46that's hot.
48:47iconic.
48:48love.
48:49he loves it.
48:50it's living.
48:51it's living.
48:52he says.
48:53he says.
48:54he loves singing.
48:54that song.
48:55london just learned it.
48:56so she's now saying it.
48:57iconic is favorite.
48:58there's london.
48:59favorite word.
49:00and it's our dog's name as well.
49:02so.
49:03they're just so.
49:04cute.
49:05i can't.
49:06i'm like obsessed.
49:07i can't take it.
49:08so the whole gang.
49:09now.
49:10the crew back in the day.
49:11are all mums.
49:12do you and kim kardashian ever bond over.
49:14motherhood these days.
49:15we do.
49:16we talk a lot.
49:17about.
49:18our kids.
49:19how much.
49:19find out.
49:20is to be a mom.
49:21um.
49:22i met dr wang through her.
49:24who was both our doctors for our babies.
49:27and.
49:28she's such an amazing.
49:29mom.
49:30did she give you advice.
49:31she said just like.
49:32soak up every moment.
49:33cuz it.
49:34it goes so fast.
49:35and they are just growing up so fast.
49:37how often do you two hang out.
49:39um.
49:40we're both so busy.
49:41so anytime.
49:42like during the holidays.
49:43or if it's like.
49:44like.
49:45an event or something.
49:46but i love her so much.
49:48i'm so proud of her.
49:49carter seems so supportive of you.
49:51how do you parent together.
49:52we're.
49:53we're.
49:54just.
49:55the best parents.
49:56we.
49:57have so much fun with the kids.
49:58car.
49:59carter is just so.
50:00sweet.
50:01and fun.
50:02and gentle.
50:03and just an amazing dad.
50:04and.
50:05they love him so much.
50:06and we just have the best time with the kids.
50:07always.
50:08do you agree on.
50:09all the parenting principles.
50:10i think.
50:11there's not.
50:12not come up.
50:13things you've disagreed with so far.
50:14no.
50:15you sort.
50:14that all out beforehand.
50:15yeah.
50:16um.
50:17how does he really feel about your obsession with.
50:19pink.
50:20and your interior design.
50:21like the pink tennis court.
50:22and everything.
50:23he loves it.
50:24he loves anything that will make me happy.
50:26it's like.
50:27really incredible.
50:28that.
50:29is an amazing.
50:29amazing moment.
50:30because the next question was.
50:31how.
50:32how and when did you know.
50:33carter was right.
50:34for you.
50:35but like.
50:36i just knew right away.
50:37there was just something special about him.
50:39i could just tell like.
50:40just.
50:41right.
50:42when he looked at me and smiled.
50:43like i did.
50:44i could just look in someone's eyes.
50:45and see.
50:46whether.
50:47like they're a good.
50:48person or not.
50:49and he.
50:49he.
50:50has such incredible family values.
50:51he's so.
50:52kind.
50:53and patient.
50:54and loyal.
50:55and sweet.
50:56and funny.
50:57and loving.
50:58and.
50:59lifts me up.
50:59in a way.
51:00that no one ever has before.
51:01and.
51:02he seems to love you.
51:03for you.
51:04yeah.
51:04i just feel like.
51:05so safe with him.
51:06where i feel like.
51:07anything is possible.
51:08and.
51:09that's an amazing feeling.
51:10because.
51:11it's been so hard.
51:12to trust people.
51:13with everything that.
51:14has happened in my life.
51:15and.
51:16you know.
51:17i met him at a time.
51:18where.
51:19i just.
51:19like.
51:20i'm not even going to.
51:21get married.
51:22i'm not going to be with anyone.
51:23like.
51:24i don't need a man.
51:25and.
51:26that's what.
51:24i was thinking.
51:25and then.
51:26met him.
51:27so.
51:28they always say like.
51:29love will find you.
51:30when you're not.
51:29looking for it.
51:30and i never believe that either.
51:31but.
51:32i guess it's true.
51:33because it worked with me.
51:34and.
51:35so.
51:36you've done.
51:37so.
51:38so much.
51:39what.
51:39unfinished business.
51:40have you got.
51:41what have you still got.
51:42to prove.
51:43what's next.
51:44like.
51:45i've.
51:46accomplished.
51:47like.
51:48everything.
51:49that i would want to.
51:50in life.
51:51but i'm just going to.
51:49continue on.
51:50with everything i'm doing.
51:51with 11 11 media.
51:52and.
51:53just all.
51:54the wealth of different projects.
51:55i have.
51:56with that.
51:57and.
51:58i'm very excited for.
51:59paravi.
52:00my skin care line.
52:01that.
52:02i developed.
52:03for the past three years.
52:04and.
52:04building new products.
52:05with that as well.
52:06and.
52:07continuing on.
52:08with the music.
52:09work.
52:10and.
52:11all my advocacy work.
52:12and.
52:13continuing to build ip.
52:14and.
52:15then.
52:16getting involved.
52:17more in real estate.
52:18my own hotels.
52:19and.
52:20yeah.
52:21just continue.
52:22paris hilton hotels.
52:23rivaling hilton hotels.
52:24the skin care line.
52:25you.
52:26are aging backwards.
52:27you look.
52:28amazing.
52:29like.
52:30i have a.
52:31led mask.
52:32like.
52:33just.
52:34just like us.
52:35but you have a whole.
52:34machine.
52:35i read.
52:36the spa.
52:37the sliving spa.
52:38the sliving spa.
52:39what.
52:39works the best.
52:40for readers.
52:41for anti-aging.
52:42how can we look.
52:43as amazing as you.
52:44what works.
52:44bestest pair of e.
52:45my skin care line.
52:46of course.
52:47and.
52:48then the led.
52:49red light.
52:49incredible.
52:50cryotherapy.
52:51hyperbaric.
52:52chambers.
52:53the number.
52:54one thing.
52:55for longevity.
52:56which i'm obsessed with.
52:57i just invested into.
52:59brian johnson's company as well.
53:01blueprint.
53:02which i'm obsessed with.
53:04um.
53:05so i think yeah.
53:06it's important.
53:07to do all of those things.
53:08try to stay out of the.
53:09sun.
53:10but yeah.
53:11that.
53:12red light.
53:13really does work.
53:14i have like a whole.
53:14red light bed.
53:15which i'm obsessed with.
53:16and.
53:17i'm building.
53:18an entire spa down.
53:19which would be like.
53:20an 8000 square foot.
53:21longevity center.
53:22and spa.
53:24to testing.
53:25how just like.
53:26us.
53:27because.
53:28you.
53:29you.
53:29that.
53:30that.
53:31that's not quite just like us.
53:32but.
53:33now.
53:34it's time to find out.
53:34just like us.
53:35paris hilton really is.
53:36it's a quick fire round.
53:37okay.
53:38questions will come far.
53:39fast.
53:40the answers should come faster.
53:41and there's no hiding from your humanity.
53:43are you ready to prove you're just.
53:44like us.
53:45yes.
53:46stars are blind.
53:47is one of my top five karaoke songs.
53:49but it's really hard to sing.
53:50um.
53:51are you just like us.
53:52and have you ever sung.
53:53um.
53:54like.
53:55karaoke.
53:56yeah.
53:57i love karaoke.
53:58what are your songs.
53:59do you sing stars are blind.
54:00yes.
53:59stars are blind.
54:00and i love.
54:01betty davis eyes.
54:02by kim karts.
54:03one of my favorites.
54:04as well.
54:05so iconic.
54:06classic.
54:07how much help do you have.
54:08um.
54:09around the house.
54:10yeah we have like.
54:11the nannies.
54:12the people helped take care of the house.
54:14and.
54:15the handyman.
54:16and.
54:17yeah.
54:18all of them.
54:19and i love them so much.
54:20they're like part of the family.
54:21what's the most surprisingly normal thing you do every day that.
54:24no one would ever expect from Paris Hilton.
54:27most normal thing.
54:29just.
54:30being with my kids in the morning.
54:32eating cereal.
54:34watching cartoons.
54:35i like frosted flakes.
54:37i love cooking.
54:38i love making.
54:39french toast.
54:40with frosted flakes cooked onto it.
54:42so good.
54:43that's a good.
54:44american breakfast.
54:45she is just like us.
54:46how much do you spend on glam a year.
54:48in a year would you.
54:49estimate.
54:50i don't know.
54:51i've never.
54:52looked into that.
54:53but i'm sure.
54:54a lot.
54:54what's one house.
54:55household chore.
54:56you secretly love doing yourself.
54:58i don't know.
54:59you don't do any.
55:00you don't do any.
55:05organizing.
55:06i like organizing as well.
55:07i like organizing.
55:08i like tidying.
55:09i hate.
55:09cleaning.
55:10when was the last time.
55:11you pumped gas.
55:12i used to pump gas.
55:13when i used to.
55:14to drive everywhere.
55:15but.
55:16i honestly never leave the house now.
55:17like.
55:18unless i have to.
55:19and then i have a driver.
55:20and then.
55:21i'm always just going directly.
55:22from here.
55:23to the airport.
55:24flying somewhere.
55:25so i have not done gas.
55:26in a long time.
55:27but if i was.
55:29driving.
55:30i would do it.
55:31i don't mind.
55:32you would.
55:33you are just like us.
55:34well thank you.
55:35for sharing.
55:34your incredible journey.
55:35and the wisdom.
55:36that you've imparted.
55:37and how you've helped people.
55:38along the way.
55:39and i.
55:40i do think.
55:41how vulnerable you are.
55:42it shows that you really are.
55:43just like us.
55:44so thank you Paris.
55:45thank you.
55:46this was so much fun.
55:49thank you.
55:50thank you.
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