00:00The early hostage has been recovered from Gaza, a return that should lead to the reopening of the...
00:05traffic crossing, a key entry point for aid into Gaza, and part of the agreement announced last...
00:10October. Israel has said it will only be a limited reopening. Let's cross live.
00:15To our correspondent in Jerusalem, Noga Tarnopolsky, to find out a bit more, Noga, all of that...
00:20hostages are now back. So is Israel going to stick to the agreement and reopen this...
00:25crucial border? Well, it has given us...
00:30very mixed messaging is the truth, Eve. The Israeli government issued...
00:35the statement just a few hours before the body, the remains of the final hospital...
00:40which were located and brought out of Gaza. And it said basically that...
00:45once he returned, once his body returned, that Israel would...
00:50adhere to the terms of the Trump ceasefire agreement.
00:55but then added all kinds of other conditions. The board...
01:00border... this border crossing is between Gaza and Egypt, and it was supposed to be...
01:05opened quite a while ago. Israel, in fact, has three times previously said that...
01:09Rafah would...
01:10open between Egypt and Gaza and then not move... moved ahead to do anything...
01:15so this time there does seem to be more American pressure...
01:19but again...
01:20the Egyptians and the Egyptians and the Palestinian Authority are supposed to be in charge...
01:25of these two sides of a border that doesn't touch on Israel...
01:29although it has...
01:30impacted Israel because over the years it did become a main point of...
01:35smuggling into Gaza. So Israel has not been unequivocal...
01:40it has put a lot of conditions on adhering to this one point...
01:44and we're...
01:45going to have to wait and see in my estimation...
01:47how much pressure the United States...
01:50is put on Israel. We do know that with authority from the United States...
01:55the technocratic new leader of Gaza, Ali...
02:00who's supposed to head this government of technocrats...
02:04now admin...
02:05ministering Gaza...
02:06he did announce that the border would be open by Thursday...
02:10free passage... both sides...
02:12so he may have backing to have said...
02:15and we're going to have to wait and see for the rest.
02:17Okay, so a lot will rely on that pressure from the United States...
02:20but what impact do you think...
02:21the fact that there are now no Israeli hostages in Gaza...
02:24what...
02:25the impact will that have on how Israeli citizens see what's happening in Gaza...
02:29you know...
02:30where is public opinion on that...
02:32and what they...
02:33their government may do next?
02:35I think this moment really is a moment of inflection for Israel...
02:40where this nightmare of hostage-taking...
02:43of citizens who were...
02:45just...
02:46taken away...
02:47through a border that collapsed back in 2020...
02:50has simply become...
02:52something that strangled Israeli society.
02:55was unlivable...
02:56for many, many thousands of people...
02:58and probably more than the...
03:00hundreds of thousands...
03:01we saw on the street...
03:02one possibility...
03:04that we're seeing...
03:05initial signs of the...
03:07there's the budding of a new kind of opposition to...
03:10Netanyahu...
03:11an insistence that he declare an end to the war...
03:13he would lose a murder...
03:15emergency powers in that case...
03:17and...
03:18there would be really incredible...
03:20pressure on him...
03:21to finally move out of the way...
03:23and allow for the establishment of...
03:25the commission of inquiry...
03:26but that's just in the internal...
03:28Israeli aspect of...
03:30this...
03:31an international aspect...
03:32of...
03:33there no longer being...
03:34Israeli hostage...
03:35in Gaza...
03:36what it means is that...
03:37Israel has to move forward...
03:38to phase two...
03:39as does...
03:40phase two...
03:41of the Trump...
03:42ceasefire plan...
03:43augurs...
03:44a very different...
03:45difficult...
03:46period...
03:47of decision-making...
03:48Hamas...
03:49that was born...
03:50and exists...
03:50as an Islamist...
03:51armed...
03:52terror group...
03:53is going to have to give up...
03:54its...
03:55weapons...
03:56and see to the...
03:57disarming...
03:58of all of Gaza...
03:59including...
04:00other groups...
04:01like the Islamist...
04:00Islamic Jihad...
04:01I foresee that...
04:02that will be quite difficult...
04:03and I equally...
04:04foresee as difficult...
04:05Israel...
04:06according to the terms...
04:07of this plan...
04:08will have to redeploy...
04:09and leave...
04:10God...
04:10put its...
04:11you know...
04:12station...
04:13its soldiers...
04:14on the outward...
04:15perimeter...
04:15of Gaza...
04:16for Netanyahu...
04:17politically...
04:18that will be...
04:19very difficult...
04:20for Hamas...
04:20on every level...
04:21this will be...
04:22very difficult...
04:23so...
04:24I expect that...
04:25initially...
04:26we're going to see...
04:25stumbling blocks...
04:26and we're going to see...
04:27from each side...
04:28most likely...
04:29a...
04:30a bit of...
04:31feet dragging...
04:32again...
04:33waiting to see...
04:34how serious...
04:35the Americans...
04:36really...
04:35are about...
04:36putting this plan...
04:37into place...
04:38Nogatana Polsky...
04:39thanks very much...
04:40indeed...
04:40to our cars...
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