00:00Un hostage has been recovered from Gaza, a return that should lead to the reopening of the...
00:05...a key entry point for aid into Gaza and part of the agreement announced last...
00:10...of October. Israel has said it will only be a limited reopening. Let's cross live.
00:15...to our correspondent in Jerusalem, Noga Tarnopolsky, to find out a bit more.
00:19Noga, all of that...
00:20...the hostages are now back. So is Israel going to stick to the agreement and reopen this...
00:25...a crucial border?
00:28Well, it has given us...
00:30...very mixed messaging is the truth, Eve. The Israeli government issued...
00:35...a statement just a few hours before the body, the remains of the final hospital...
00:40...which were located and brought out of Gaza. And it said basically that...
00:45...once he returned, once his body returned, that Israel would...
00:50...adhere to the terms of the Trump ceasefire agreement.
00:55...but then added all kinds of other conditions. The board...
01:00...this border crossing is between Gaza and Egypt. And it was supposed to be...
01:05...opened quite a while ago. Israel, in fact, has three times previously said that...
01:09...Rafaf would...
01:10...opened between Egypt and Gaza and then not moved ahead to do anything.
01:15So this time there does seem to be more American pressure. But again...
01:20...the Egyptians and the Palestinian authority are supposed to be in charge.
01:25...of these two sides of a border that doesn't touch on Israel. Although it has...
01:30...impacted Israel because over the years it did become a main point of...
01:35...smuggling into Gaza. So Israel has not been unequivocal.
01:40It has put a lot of conditions on adhering to this one point. And we're...
01:45...going to have to wait and see, in my estimation, how much pressure the United States...
01:50...puts on Israel, we do know that with authority from the United States...
01:55...the technocratic new leader of Gaza, Ali...
02:00...who's supposed to head this government of technocrats...
02:04...now admin...
02:05...in the ministry in Gaza, he did announce that the border would be open by Thursday.
02:10...free passage, both sides. So he may have backing to have said...
02:15...and we're gonna have to wait and see for the rest.
02:17Okay, so a lot will rely on that pressure from the United States.
02:20But what impact do you think the fact that there are now no Israeli hostages in Gaza?
02:25What impact will that have on how Israeli citizens see what's happening in Gaza?
02:30Where is public opinion on that and what their government may do next?
02:35I think this moment really is a moment of inflection for Israel.
02:40...where this nightmare of hostage-taking, of citizens who were...
02:45...just taken away through a border that collapsed back in 2020.
02:50...in 1993 has simply become something that strangled Israeli society.
02:55...was unlivable for many, many thousands of people and probably more than the...
03:00...hundreds of thousands we saw on the street.
03:03...one possibility that we're seeing...
03:05...initial signs of the...
03:07...there's the budding of a new kind of opposition to...
03:10...that Netanyahu have an insistence that he declare an end to the war.
03:13...he would lose a murder...
03:15...of emergency powers in that case.
03:17...and there would be really incredible...
03:20...pressure on him to finally move out of the way and allow for the establishment of...
03:25...the commission of inquiry.
03:26...but that's just in the internal Israeli aspect of...
03:30...in the international aspect of there no longer being Israeli hostage.
03:35...in Gaza, what it means is that Israel has to move forward...
03:38...to phase two, as does...
03:40...of the Trump ceasefire plan augurs a very different...
03:45...difficult period of decision-making.
03:47...Hamas that was born and exists...
03:50...as an Islamist armed terror group is going to have to give up its...
03:55...weapons and see to the disarming of all of Gaza...
03:58...including other groups like the Islamists...
04:00...of the Islamic Jihad.
04:01...I foresee that that will be quite difficult...
04:03...and I equally foresee as difficult...
04:05...israel, according to the terms of this plan...
04:08...will have to redeploy and leave Gaza...
04:10...put its, you know, station its soldiers on the outward perimeter.
04:15...of Gaza.
04:16For Netanyahu, politically, that will be very difficult.
04:19For Hamas...
04:20...on every level, this will be very difficult.
04:22So I expect that initially we're going to see...
04:25...stumbling blocks and we're going to see from each side...
04:28...most likely a...
04:30...a bit of feet dragging.
04:31...again, waiting to see how serious the Americans really are.
04:35...about putting this plan into place.
04:37Nogatana Polsky, thanks very much indeed.
04:40Nogatana Polsky, thanks very much.
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